good afternoon good morning i guess and good evening in some areas so welcome back to the coach vidalia's podcast this week and i have a great and a very new friend with me here um robert mitchell from new york robert welcome how are you thank you so much i'm good coach fedori thank you so much for having me on your podcast i'm honored and privileged to be here well thank you i think it's uh um right to say that you know morning for you and it must be uh first thing in the morning today uh to ki
ck off with yeah yep just starting the day over here uh how things back home how was the situation everything good good um you know new york was one of the places that was initially pretty hard hit by the pandemic but we have recovered quite well i want to say um doing as well as we can for sure i guess nothing less than that is expected from new york spirit i mean you guys rock when it comes to pulling yourself together as a city as a state you guys just a great example for a lot of people to l
ook up to when it comes to going forward and you know doing better yeah i appreciate you saying that i mean yeah new yorkers do have a spirit of like you know go forward move on let's let's get through this absolutely and this is what we do in dubai the same thing we have a dynamic city just as yours a more smaller one but uh definitely a twin sister in the world so amazing robert i'm just gonna go directly to the question and say wow great great achievements and experience i mean i look into yo
ur profile i'm like really amazed uh how much you covered how much you've done so far and how much you're going to be doing in the future travel coach cross-cultural consultant now the one i really really really gets um curious about is travel coach okay why and what does a travel coach do and you know where did this start or you know all this together sure so um great question um it's a common question um because first off what i'd like to say is a travel coach is a lot let's talk about what it
's not because it gets confused a lot a travel coach is not a travel agent um it's it this is not the person who is booking the trips um a travel coach more is somebody who's going to help someone help a client think through their their trip the deeper meaning behind why they're traveling and what they're trying to accomplish um what goals are they trying to accomplish through their trip and how can they then take those results that they've achieved on that trip and use it push forward to create
synergy moving forward throughout the rest of their lives i mean wow i must say this is an amazing amazing uh area that you're covering i've come across consultants but a travel coach um if i may say besides being a cross-cultural consultant it's something the world would definitely benefit from give us an example of um you know um a customer engagement what what would your your typical customer sound like or be i mean sure so let's take um solo uh solo mail traveler um from the us from califor
nia um reaches age 32. and he's searching for meaning in his life um he's he's found that he's in a job that's unfulfilling um he's recently decided to quit his job and he wants to travel but he doesn't really understand um what he might be looking for maybe he's doing a little bit of soul searching okay that's where i come in so a conversation with myself would help this person hammer out okay now let's try to really find some meaning behind behind where are you trying to go what are you trying
to achieve um what are you do what are you aiming to learn about yourself and and where can that help you go so really having this conversation um helping him hammer out some goals and then we would get to more specific like locations which kind of places could help you really get to those goals where did this start rob i mean it must have started somewhere and when did it start why did it start what was the curiosity behind kicking something as amazing as this off yeah you know it it all goes
back to to motivation and drive and like why are we you know why do we do what we do in life and and my story is um that i had traveled extensively throughout the world you know hit 50 different countries i was so fortunate to learn four additional languages immerse myself in so many cultures i'm saying myself i have changed so much as a person um and i have experienced travel on such a deep level i want to share this gift with other people i want to show people that travel isn't all about ticki
ng boxes and and positioning yourself properly in front of the eiffel tower for a photo don't get me wrong that's fun exciting and cool and we should still do that but there is a deeper um a deeper purpose i would say that we travel for we travel for meaning and not all of us understand what that is so i started thinking you know once this pandemic hit and everything man um i think it's caused a lot of people to really dig deep and think about their values and really think about why they're doin
g what they're doing and travel being such an important part of my life i started to to really analyze and assess why do i travel what do i get out of it and let me help other people because i've seen so many amazing things and had so many breakthroughs about myself in the world let me now help other people do the same amazing and you said pandemic so we don't talk much about pandemic on the podcast um but an interesting point you brought up i would like to emphasize on that do you think the pan
demic will change people's mindset or their view on how travel should be moving forward is that an opportunity um whereas maybe prior to pandemic we just traveled right we just wanted to go places just spend some time uh some people do it luxury some people do it premium select some people do it just you know and you know like to camper and just go camping somewhere do you think the pandemic actually has created opportunities for you in terms of how people will look into travel in the future you
know it's a great question so hell and definitely um because i think the pandemic has really caused everybody to think about their lives their priorities what they're doing with themselves are they happy does it align with their values um and when it comes to the travel space i think i think people in general are going to be looking for more meaning in their lives more meaningful interactions and so when we talk about travel i genuinely believe that people are going to be looking for more meani
ngful travel experiences as well so with that in mind there's definitely a need for a travel coach to help somebody figure that out right to look really deep and help people explore their values and and how they can how they can align their trips with those values and you said something about um own travel so you've traveled across the globe um and i believe you've been to china you've been to japan correct i've actually lived in japan as well i lived in japan and speak the language so i do what
was the curiosity behind leaving and going you know that far if i may say so to seek something else to seek something new and diverse what was the cause behind your your first travel and maybe not the first one but the the more extensive ones you know coach bedard is a great question i've always had a passion for people uh and a curiosity like a burning curiosity and just a desire to understand more about people about cultures and and so because of that it really led me on this um literally mos
t recently literally world trip but throughout the course of all the travels it's led me all over the world to um to to speak with these people to to pick up a few more languages to be able to better uh communicate from the heart with these people um just all over learn about people and communities because i found that the best way for me uh to better understand these folks wherever they are is to be right there in person of course right now it's hard for us to do that but before this pandemic c
an't you know be right there and having in-person like face-to-face conversations um yeah i found that very powerful and it is indeed i think uh the the more you um think about the meaning behind any travel and the moment you leave home there's a purpose there's always a purpose but uh i guess there are different purposes for why we we seek what we seek um in the last few years okay i mean you're much much younger than me so i would not even say 10. i would say like in the last couple of years f
ive years um is there a new belief behavior or habit that just improves your life one that stands out that one that you really say oh you know what that's that's something which really really changed my life as a coach as a human being um you know it's um that's a great question i'm trying to think if there's one um that's beautiful if there are many you can tell me as many as you want but i just wanna um yes i would say empathetic listening so this is a skill that i think is so important for pe
ople um in every profession um especially in coaching you know and i came to the realization a while back that i wasn't doing that i think a lot of us list we we have a conversation we're so excited about what we want to say um we're ready to just fire off our our next uh paragraph or words and we're passionate about whatever we're passionate we're in our own world we're you know we're ready to speak about it and that's natural right but but i think going to the next level when i realized the va
lue in really focusing on the conversation listening deeply carefully and empathetically to the other person and respond responding in a way that shows that you're listening and responding accordingly i just saw a major shift in the dynamic uh of conversations wow that's uh um i always appreciate when somebody talks about listening i think listening [Music] is definitely an area where we can always do better especially if we're listening uh without an agenda whereas you know we're not going to t
alk about corporate life here however and many many of us have perhaps crossed roads in terms of employment organizations where we think someone's listening to us but in reality um they're just looking for signs um there's no there's no listening as we call it second level listening happening without an agenda so thanks for sharing that i think that's that's um definitely can be elaborated further um and i'm going to ask you a very tough one which is always uh not appreciated by anyone on the po
dcast i'm sorry i can't answer it you can always say no comment and i mean we can talk to your lawyers but go right ahead all right so how has maybe one or an apparent failure okay that has happened to you set you up for later success either a failure total failure or a semi-failure which you would have considered setting up for success um do you remember one of them or the biggest one and and i would always call it the favorite failure right and i i don't i don't dislike this question whatsoeve
r i actually really like this question i'm just thinking in my mind right now i'm trying to give you the best failure that i've had i'm trying to think of like how i've failed the hardest or the or the the most um hmm and i want to give you an example as i'm thinking through this i want to give you an example that's like really right had an impact moving forward oh man this is a good one it's a great one i gotta i gotta think um and the silence is always there by the way so um it's always um it
needs a little bit of reflection yeah [Music] i'm trying to think there's so many facets right because you got professional personal educational um would be possible to continue to think on it and come back to the question yeah i mean i want to give you that i want to give you the best one i'm having trouble pulling the best one out you're not going to run away we're going to come back to this so from failure let me go somewhere else um i want to go to buenos aires one of cyrus right um tell us
about buenos aires beautiful city um spent a semester there um studying spanish um and guess what boom we just we just got back to your last question here's biggest failure right there i didn't know that out there yeah thank you you just led me to the you just led me to the answer biggest failure um occurred in buenos aires um here's why i studied spanish for years um i thought to myself i have a decent vocabulary i'm good with grammar now now okay good put me in a real world setting right so i
do my semester abroad i get down to buenos aires i think wow my spanish is fine it's great there's no problem and i proceeded to not understand anything initially initially like what happened right what happened okay so here so here's the failure is thinking that okay because i have studied this in school i'm now a spanish master no uh actually got down there and realized wow not only do i you know not am i not able to comprehend now this is initially yeah um what's going on um because a lot of
it is the slang their accent it's very different something i had never been exposed to before but the difference was natural real one-on-one in-person interactions versus you know learning out of a textbook and and all that very different um so yeah so definitely uh you know thought to myself that i was able to communicate no problem and initially was not now that's not to say that i didn't leave that country five months later with the ability to do that but um at least initially you know i thin
k failure like being like naive uh overconfident in my abilities without having had real continued interaction with people in that language i mean a failure doesn't have to be bigger than that i think you pointed out on an area where um being too comfortable sometimes leads us to certain uh decisions that can also have you know a bit of a tough consequence now um the fact that you went all the way with the courage of going and learning and getting yourself in an environment which is not home tha
t's applicable and i think that's what's part of your cross-cultural gift i think to humankind so from travel consultant sorry from a travel coach okay not consultant from travel coach inc to cross cultural consultants what's in common so the common theme connecting those to roles is really the um it's the it's the passion for travel language and and culture and it connects because with the travel coaching right um we're talking about helping people achieve their goals through travel and travel
the type of travel that um that i've done and i think you know a lot of clients will do is involving other people involving other cultures a lot maybe just involving themselves um but also potentially learning a new language to be able to better really interact and engage with a new group of people and then and then that that ties right into the cross cultural because what is cross-cultural all about it's about helping people understand the concept of culture uh and then how are how is it with t
heir own cultural lens how are they seeing the world and how do they need to understand that a new uh or a different group of people that they haven't interacted with yet how does that how does that group of people how does that culture see the world um so there's that common theme of um culture and of course you'd have to you know different cultures are located in different places which involves travel and then there's the language element there too a lot of times people in other cultures don't
necessarily speak the language that we do at least their first language so perhaps we have to learn a little bit of a couple new phrases in a new culture new language and again um culture the world culture is so uh in my eyes it's so simple uh um but it can be as sophisticated as you can make it um when it's uh when it's not perceived or it's not really understood when you don't have it you don't put an effort into understanding somebody else's culture and you know culture can be home it can be
a workplace and can be a country or city in a state uh as a matter of fact now absolutely how do we make it a better place i mean you know someone comes and says rob um how how do i live cross-culturally aware what i mean regardless of where we come from uh as long as we have an open mind how do i do that i don't necessarily understand uh maybe chinese or or russian or or english american spoken or you know the diverse arabic languages were spoken in the middle east and northern africa et ceter
a et cetera how does a person better themselves or work on themselves to become a bit more aware of cross-cultural abilities you know so hell that's a great question because you think about how many cultures are out there in the world like how much time would it take you to become an expert on everyone yeah that's so difficult right so how do we how do we have this mindset how do we how do we sort of how are we prepare ourselves to be ready to interact with other cultures and and be culturally a
ware as you said um in your question you actually mentioned what i might say what i probably would say is the strongest piece of the answer is open mindedness is is keeping an open mind and that's one of the key things that's so important because we really need to open our perspective we need to we need to be open-minded about learning more about other people and understanding that while we all have the same basic needs um other cultures have other ways of achieving those results and getting tho
se needs met and they may often be different sometimes drastically different than the methods that we're used to so really keeping an open mind um and being being aware that we have our viewpoints and our paradigms based on our experiences and that's our reality but that is not necessarily and oftentimes not um the reality of another person or another group of people that we we don't understand so well i think there's a lot of wisdom in that um especially if we base our you know understanding of
others um studies or comments or researches i think we tend to read a lot about another culture before we actually reach out to it right whether it is west east north south it doesn't matter i think within a country there's a there's a big misunderstanding sometimes with cultures as well um so this one is a bit broad but um if you can share with us what is one of the best and most worthwhile investments you've ever done and now it can be anything it can be time it can be energy invested in some
where or your money what is one great investment you've done in any area and you want if you can share it with us sure um so you're not going to be surprised by this answer travel i was almost i was almost getting that but i wasn't sure um and i would say that um and it's been an investment of time energy and money all three of the factors that you mentioned and and here here's why it's something that it's just it's so powerful to understand just other groups of people and i and and you by throu
gh this process i have just of extensive travel i should say we're talking anywhere from five weeks to 14 and a half months so hell um yeah so by really getting out there just into the rugged real world and understanding that my my small world is not the world not in the least bit uh there is so much more to this world that i have to understand and by doing that i really grew as a person um developed just skills of independence responsibility um budgeting so many amazing things came out of uh th
e travel um so that piece and and you know that's as we would mention such a driving factor why i want to show other people um the importance and in investing in travel and thinking about um their their travel their motives and so on i think there's no better example than actually leading uh by example right i i think if i come to a travel coach uh like yourself i'll be more comfortable when a person has traveled the world and speaks from experience so keep on traveling my friend i think that's
uh that's something that uh definitely an investment that it's uh you spend money and time but i think the return on investment is so much higher than anyone can expect um yeah coach i want to i would just want to add one more thing and i would want to say that a lot of times in life i've just seen people have these ambitious goals things they know they really want to do and um they they can get shut down by the opinions or of oftentimes people who are meaning to help um and so i i would just wa
nt to offer the advice that if you know that something is really right for you you know i can't tell you how many people told me how crazy to go on every trip i took you know but had i not done that i wouldn't be the person that i am today so if you know that what you are setting out to do is right for you do it um you know that would be my advice it's a great advice and i i think um i i definitely emphasize that that's uh travel makes us grow and once you travel you're never the same person aga
in it's impossible to be the same person again and now again you know not going back to pandemic but i mean the couple of months we've passed and the couple to come has put us into isolation somehow countries by countries and people tend to now um you know kind of emphasize how great it is to um focus on traveling within their own countries and that's like a booster right you don't want to boost your own economy you want to boost your own national pride and then you sense that there's a bit of e
xaggeration or maybe that's just uh the you know the normal phase after the pandemic that people are so much now emphasizing how great it is to be at home and that they would rather stay at home than go anywhere else or is it just um a phase you know that's a good question it it may be a phase and i think it's also going to um i think it's going to depend who you talk to because i've spoken to some folks and and you know they've really been uh taking advantage of traveling locally domestically l
ike you're staying um you know we've even seen an increase in road trips right people like because this small personalized kind of bubble with people you know and you're in your own car and so there's less kind of risk there but i think you'll also speak to folks um i have as well that are thinking about it like okay so this is all we can do right now but um we'll you know we'll do this um domestic travel for now until uh we're ready to open up and and travel uh internationally again and some fo
lks are are nervous to go anywhere and whatever boat anybody is in right now it's totally cool totally fine because everybody has different ideas on it and that's what makes us diverse in human beings um but i will say i think the excitement's definitely growing i think people have i would say that it's great that people have been thinking about really appreciating their own country and doing more domestic travel and i think now itching for that uh next step um sort of never having thought oh i
never thought i couldn't um just take off on a plane and now that now that it's so complicated right now oh wow i can't wait to do that again kind of thing i i think that's final spot and we can see that everywhere even in you know where i live in dubai and usually the hottest months of the year which is july august you know a lot of expats tend to go back whatever their first home was in our second home uh and we see you know people exploring now you know i go hiking with my wife every weekend
and uh you know now we're out of dubai but we know we go hiking at 7pm and onwards and i'll be honest this is uh it's a great moment to explore uh other sides of the city or the country um but yeah we we look forward to the opening of the world so that we can travel again i think um you know again travel is a blessing uh and it teaches you a lot about yourself coach i just want to say i'm so glad that you mentioned the timing in which you're going on hikes because having been to dubai during the
summer time myself anything before 7 p.m or you may say 6 37 oh no i didn't even understand the true meaning of heat until i was yeah well i'll tell you it's only me and my wife up in the mountains i don't see much many people myself and her but we're having a thrill and it's been a blessing to be able to go hiking even though it's um it's a bit too hot but to your point um it's uh it's definitely an opportunity that's coming up right um you know for a travel coach for a cross-cultural consulta
nt and you've done your studies i mean you your intercultural master class um candidate so tell us about the master class intercultural studies you know what have you done what did you learn sure so the master class was a phenomenal opportunity to to learn more about the world of cross-cultural and how to deliver it in a manageable way to people so that they can understand culture like the concept in general and how it affects our lives and so they can better understand how right how their own p
erspective can can shape their interactions and then how to better accustom better adjust and understand um to to their new culture and they gave it give the framework for being able to do that um interesting interesting very much indeed um i got a few more topics to kind of cover with you a bit uh like the failure one it's a bit tough but i i hope that yeah don't mind me asking so number one i would say who are the three top inspirational people in your life or where or are currently um you kno
w the three people you would individuals you would top three inspirational people in my life um and why that's a great one you know another one where it's like this is a deep thinking one and this three is a lot there's stick to one and i'm sure you have it depends on yeah you know there there are just um there are so many there are so many folks that could be mentioned here um i'd have to say my mom because you know growing up she she really showed me uh the importance of family responsibility
um and and really provided a very solid example of how how responsible living and spending can um can produce uh a good like a comfortable situation um now i do want to give three people so i would say mom on a on a personal uh a family member level i would say on a on a friend level uh one one of uh a great inspiration to me has been uh a longtime friend of mine uh danny danny stern shout out to you danny if you're listening eventually um because he's an example he's just someone i've connected
with you know always had a good friendship with but he's someone who's really set goals in his life and accomplished them you know everything from from personally to knowing the you know knowing he always wanted a family um and um and what he wanted in a partner and finding that creating that family um and professionally knowing he wanted to you know what he wanted to do and going into that so has been really uh inspirational and and powerful and i'd say you know there's so like there's so many
family members i could mention so many friends and then so many professional people um and i would want to say that um i would want someone who had a a very big impact on me um really inspired me um her name is jana jenna masik so you may have seen i was on her show she really inspired me to see a bigger vision for myself which was the catalyst really started the ball rolling for my career in a much different more powerful direction and that is because i changed the view i have of myself and th
at was largely due to conversations with her well i'm sure there's many others and the three um when you mention are uh definitely um moms come always up on the list top uh in almost all podcasts so uh they're still leaving the the leading the mess um you you touched on the third inspirational person in your life and tell us about the show tell us what you know what what you know why when and what was the outcome sure so janna runs a weekly linkedin live show called powering a unique u and it's
all about discovering you know and janna's in the world of coaching too and it's all about discovering unlocking every person's individual unique talent perspective um and leadership capability and so she she interviews people on a weekly basis to tell their story just and and she does it in a way which is very powerful it's structured and she really helped me think through um our our conversation was about the steps necessary to achieving goals and what we talked about was the steps that i used
to achieve some of these extraordinarily long or complicated trips i took and how i did it okay so it's it's it's um literally a development conversation that you kind of go deeper into your own uh reality and then kind of realize how things are and then you go move on with that right right so like realizing who you are sharing your unique perspective um and being a leader in your own way amazing well shout out to her if she's out there or she's gonna be listening to us because we make sure tha
t she gets uh to hear this podcast mentioning that a great great uh inspiration for you and everyone else has been on that show and will be um today's new normal right and people talk about the new normal and how things have changed and maybe things have changed forever what would you give us an advice to anyone coming out of college today and what to ignore and what to focus on that's a great question um and i was recently thinking about this you know when uh when i went through when i went thr
ough school so i did when i went to college i did my four years i did my bachelors in spanish and then i went out i went on to do my mba directly after that and i remember um i remember thinking to myself we had to make a choice um there was information assurance which is kind of like accounting is the focus areas of the mba and they weren't traditional uh areas that you might see like finance management the program i did it was was it was different so information assurance information technolog
y management and human resource information systems um now we had to so we had to make that choice and i ended up choosing itm information technology management you know i always thought technology was interesting but i thought that there would be more job opportunities available within that focal point right if i was a student in in that program rather than human resource information systems which you know combined the technology element but really included the human piece which deep down i rea
lly knew that that's more what i was all about but i made the choice to go with what i thought was more practical or was more you know aligned with what could get what could get a full-time offer directly out of the mba right um so looking back on that decision you know would it have mattered drastically had i done one or the other maybe not so much but had if i could do it again i would choose the other i would choose the other um concentration which i i really deep down felt i resonated more w
ith so looking at looking back on that experience i would use that experience to tell people um coming out of college you know focus on focus on what you're really interested in and passionate about because that's what you're going to be good at you know um and and let your career take you from there and also not to worry if you ended up studying something and you end up doing something completely different you know i remember my dad telling me at his graduation speech in college the the speaker
said that you know some astronomical percentage of you will go on to do great things in this world that have absolutely nothing to do with what you studied so not not worrying so much about the past but you know moving forward in a direction that really resonates with you who you are as a person and and your value and belief system i think that's going to bring the most success for anyone and i agree with you i think it's a beautiful statement you made that um values passionate about what you d
o and don't be afraid don't worry it's going to be okay um yeah things can change uh a lot and um for the folks who've seen this pandemic i think they've grown a lot they they've gone through um i've seen people who are you know in the younger ages and the um they've never seen a crisis before so for them this was a really really a wow moment saying i've never seen anything like this it made me feel so stronger and i've seen and now i see other opportunities in life so uh yeah i i definitely um
you know echoed what you said in terms of you know be courageous go ahead and um there's always options and solutions that you could look into not only one but then you know there's a lot travel coaching can be uh also overwhelming right it can also be tough um sometimes if you are feeling overwhelmed and unfocused how do you get back on track rob what do you do is there a place is there a thing is there anything that brings you back on track when you're overwhelmed now okay i just just want to
clarify it now are we talking on like on a personal level on a professional level um i would say um rob is right now overwhelmed with whatever is around and uh how do you kind of back get back on track or how do you as a coach is there a space where you go and what do you do you just get back on track i usually just pick up the the closest object which is usually a stapler and i just throw it through the window so we've got like 15 broken windows already at this point and the bill is astronomica
l um fortunately for you myself our audience that is obviously a joke um but i i'm not i'm not providing that joke to skirt the question i will answer it um i think the way that i best handle um overwhelm being overwhelmed or feeling stressed is really finding um thinking about what it is that's overwhelming me um and that may be um a combination of factors and doing something that i know i enjoy that will relieve the tension so if it's been a long day for example sitting in front of the compute
r um or just lots of emails and things and getting out and exercising is a way that i really like just as you mentioned you like you enjoy hiking with your wife i really enjoy um just getting out going for a run um any form of exercise push-ups sit-ups um really gets the energy going the endorphins flowing and just puts me in a better mood so exercise i would say um is definitely a great way to um sort of underwhelm myself when i'm feeling overwhelmed if that makes sense he does and you can stil
l throw a stapler once in a while it doesn't really hurt but it's always as long as no one's getting hurt in the process what why not i think that's that's that could be taken as an advice and then it's not up to us to decide but we don't recommend this to be used at home guys so um we're not recommending that you throw staplers but if a stapler happens to get thrown just make sure it's not thrown at another human being or a pet for that matter one of the reasons i ask this question is always be
cause um people look upon coaches uh as a fountain of energy and resource and when we talk with coaches of different um background and you know industry um expertise it's important to know as you know as a human being as a coach where do you get your energy where did you get your your you know what is your source of uh energizing yourself so um thanks for being so simple and you know and just answering it with a very straightforward uh reply i think it just sometimes takes as little as needed to
get back on track and i can see you have something on your mind i guess is this something you want to add on oh is it well as you were just saying you know the source of your energy you know that so it was interesting because i was thinking two-fold one exercise certainly helps um you know bring down that level of stress or anxiety and i think that's powerful what you said people really do want to understand from understand a coach in terms of what gives this person energy what gives this perso
n life um and i would say that another driving force is really getting up every day and just knowing i'm on the right path just knowing that i'm i'm doing things that are helping people and providing and impacting lives and providing value to people and that is what really gives me a strong source of that energy and you know in a few words purpose of life right your life very clear there so rob are you working on something exciting in terms of um you know plans for travel as a coach um anything
that you you know you want to share with us you want to kind of give us a hint yes i'm in the process of writing a book about how travel changes lives wow okay that's uh that's an amazing you know announcement then are we looking forward to you know seeing it soon how what where are you at sure so i am finished with the first draft i yeah i am at the face so i've gotten it's gone through one round of editing which i have to look into um make some updates and and think about you know a couple dif
ferent things like more stories to add potentially um you know different information i might want to include um and then i've been having a lot of conversations recently just about next steps and it's going to be another at least one round of editing potentially too and i'm also looking into the different um publishing options right now um you know what's going to allow me to share share this knowledge with the greatest amount of people out there you know and what's what's gonna work best so tha
t's where we're at right now i am sending out weekly updates actually um on this process which at some point i could i could provide you with um a link um let me show you and then there's a there's a site that people can just if they're interested in yeah the whole the whole point behind that coach was i i figured since people are feeling especially when i started writing a book booth i know they're feeling really kind of locked in and kind of would love to be traveling i said hey you know what
i'm going on a journey right now i'm going on a journey of writing a book and i would love to have you on it with me so by providing these weekly updates um the thought process was give people an opportunity to join this journey and feel like they're a part of something epic we look forward to seeing that um in a minute or two you're going to share with us all the details of what people if i can find you before we do that though um we're coming to the end and i wanted to ask you to step into my
shoes for a minute and ask robert rob a question that i didn't and what that question would be and obviously answer it okay so just to uh to make sure i understand correctly here um i'm coach padari now and i'm asking myself a question a question that you didn't ask hmm and coach you're full of great questions [Laughter] i know this one's on me but now i didn't even i didn't ask the question [Laughter] oh that's a good one that's a really good one let me think on that for a moment um so rob tyin
g in together the professional things you do the travel coaching the crash cultural consulting what's your ultimate aim right what are you where are you trying to go with this right what are you what's going to culminate from your efforts here i am again same but different person answering that question great question rob thank you so much for asking such an insightful question um i would say that um the reason that i'm doing what i'm doing is following those following this feeling i have the va
lues but really as i was thinking more deeply about this there's an there's a there's a there's a bigger piece of the puzzle here and what it really ties into is by providing people tools to better understand the impact of travel languages and cultures we're also giving people the tools to better understand other people right and by doing this what we're doing is reducing ignorance right and by reducing ignorance we are also reducing fear of the unknown and by reducing fear of the unknown we are
also reducing hatred in the world and by reducing hatred we are making this planet a more peaceful place and that is why i'm doing what i'm doing by far the best question of the podcast i have to say and i'm so happy you asked yourself that question because there's so much that can be done and there's so much that we still have to do as every individual or any human every human being across the globe and we've seen you know what ignorance can lead to in different levels everywhere it starts at
home and you can go into schools and it can go into work and it can go into parliaments and you can go it's you know on and on um so rob thank you so much um um last but not least where do the viewers or listeners find you how can they connect with you to definitely get you know uh more insight on how a travel coach can help them and how a cross-cultural consultant can be benefiting sure so um i'm just going to put a couple links in our chat um they've got um the the best way would probably be l
inkedin i i can provide you with that link as well um i have a website as well which is www.robmasell.com folks can certainly feel free to to connect there i just want to pop in this to our chat here so and that's my linkedin profile is linkedin.com in slash robert maisel um feel free to feel free to connect there um you know or or email robert.w.mayzell gmail.com i'm happy to connect with and hear from anyone and everyone thank you thank you rob uh robert messel consulting uh thank you so much
for connecting with us all the way from new york it's your morning we wish you a great day and an amazing weekend coming up and we look forward to uh hearing more from you seeing your book come out and hopefully people reach out from even this side of the world for your expertise absolutely thanks so much thank you so much for having me on on your podcast so hell it's been a pleasure we look forward to having you back take care of yourself and all the best to everyone back home thank you
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