okay we are live great to have everyone with us on this Thursday March the 7th Alexander how are you doing I'm doing very well and absolutely delighted um very excited to have Tony schaer with us yes we are very happy very honored to have the one and only Tony Schaffer nyt New York Times best ing author retired DOD Intel operative and a man who knows a lot of things that he is going to tell us about Alexander Tony before we get started with the show let me just say a quick hello to everyone that
is watching us on Odyssey on rockin Rumble and Telegram and of course the durant. locals.com and thank you to our amazing awesome moderators Peter VES zarel and who else is moderating and anyone else who joins us in the moderation thank you very much for everything that you do Alexander Tony there is all kinds of news going on this was a very big week in news so Alexander and Tony I pass it off to to you gentlemen I this is a very big not just week of news but I think it's a very big month of n
ews and actually the epicenter as always is the US um you know there's lots of things going on in Ukraine which we can talk about lots of things going on in the Middle East but ultimately when you actually unpack everything um it's Washington which Remains the place which is at the center others respond to what the Americans or at least what people inside the beltway are doing and it sometimes very difficult to decipher what's going on at least for us Outsiders to decipher what is going on in Wa
shington and I can tell you one thing the Europeans are freaking out they are in a state of absolute blind panic uh of a like I have never known before in my lifetime and you know I've been following news and politics for a very very long time my father used to know the European Union and its institutions very well um so you know my aunt used to you I have a long background go all the way back to the 1980s I have never known a week quite as agitated or or at least two weeks quite as agitated in
Europe as the two weeks which have just passed and I kind but think again that it is the Americans who are behind this and and let's just you know look at some of the things that are going on over the course of this program but before I get on to that let's just say that we are incredibly privileged today to have somebody Tony Schaffer who is as Alex said uh Former Intelligence officer um military man Lieutenant Colonel he served in many places he's been to some of the locations of the buildings
in the Beltway that we um are going to be discussing he understands a lot more about this kind of world than we as complete Outsiders do so I want to first of all um say how delighted I am that we have Tony shaer with us and Tony can I now go over to you and just ask you first of all whether you agree with me that there's an awful lot going on we don't quite understand what is going on but there's a lot of uncertainty and a very big sea change or at least so I feel this as our title says disarr
ay in foreign policy and well do you feel the same way uh does it seem to you the same well there thank you for having me by the way and since there's two of you shouldn't you guys be the Duran Duran I almost expected Nick rhods or Simon Le bond to be on this morning but I'm I I digress so no I do I do Echo and feel the unease as do the Americans but Alexander part of the reason there's unease is because the American Media has been completely ignoring everything you guys talk about one of the no
table features of our media is they tend to pick up and uh give great weight and expand the messaging for aspirations aspirational thinking and so um you know and I'll just say it my my my partner in crime briger General bla Holt and I try our best to hold a line of Truth here and uh the the whole the way that Washington sets the tone which I don't dispute I think they do their best to influence things because Washington writes a lot of checks remember the whole focus of the Ukraine effort and y
ou both have have done a great job I've watched both of your your uh presentations over the last 24 hours I feel some I I feel like I want to pick up a cigar because I'm always smoking a cigar when I'm watching your stuff so I feel naked here without a cigar in my hand as we're talking but um the the issue of what you said relating to the fact that hey the Europeans aren't going to give you any more till you write a check you know it's like oh we got we got some we got some 105s in the warehouse
if you got the money for us well the money's you know stuck in Congress and and Alexander I think you've correctly picked up on I and I feel based on the fact if you guys watch my social media I'm interacting with a lot of politicians you guys you know this is all public and you know I talked to my friend Ryan ziny Congressman ziny this past Sunday our meeting was public it's all on them and uh I can tell you uh the the the Republicans I talk to who are the the the the Reagan guys we we ain't h
ave any more of this there's no plan there's no ability to to to fund something and think you're going to achieve a a viable outcome that benefits someone other than you know throwing money in there and hoping for the best and the Southwest border an issue uh we're going to see tonight Alexander to your point Joe Biden do his best to do a tap dance around everything he's failed to do and want he wants to write raise taxes oh people aren't paying their fair share uh so you know between spoonfuls
of Tapioca And whatever happens with his his wife Dr Jill Biden and his depend he's coming up with some sort of semil lucid uh set of ideas that somehow we're not taxed enough and that's going to solve The World's problems but uh this is a long way to get to to the answer of your question much of the subterfuge of the US media is designed to to distract from the real issues and focus on things that are going on so I think part of why you you're you're you I don't want to please don't take this t
he wrong way why you people are freaking out over there is because they've been so differential to Washington who's been doing something that has no regard to the reality in which we all live does that does that make any sense I mean it's it it makes absolute sense I mean they've they've been swept along and I think this is a point which you know I want we want to emphasize over the course of this program this is not America that has led the Europeans down this crazy path it is a faction which i
s in control of the American government yes and the Europeans the Europeans by the way understand that very well they understand that if you look at the European media which I am actually much better at reading than I am the American Media if you look at the American the European media they are very very conscious that they have tied themselves to the success in Washington of a particular faction and what they are worried because they don't understand American politics very well um what they're
worried and what they didn't expect is that that faction is now losing and they've just lost by the way the single person that perhaps more than anyone else they interacted with which is Victoria nulan now Victoria nulan is impossible to overstate how important to the Europeans she is because she was the person who was going to Europe all the time she's terribly interested in Europe she's much more focused on what goes on in Europe than I think many American officials are and you know her concep
tion of you know what American Grand strategy should be is very focused on Europe and that is something the Europeans like and now she has gone and there all of all of them I can say this definitely they will be worried in Europe they'll be asking themselves why why has newand gone was she pushed did she go who are the people who are taking over and they're going to be looking at the backgrounds of the people who are taking over and they're not going to like what they see because it seems to me
that these are people who are saying over much too much Focus has been given to Europe the thing in Ukraine which newand was so connected to is not working out it's time for us to look elsewhere and apparently Kurt Campbell her replacement or rather not the replacement the new act uh deput deputy secretary of state he's mostly interested in China Affairs so I understand so you're correctly diagnosing the landscape of of what we Face her but again I don't think you understand the subtleties I mea
n not you you do I'm just saying you're the Europeans in general there is constantly a battle behind the scenes and if you simply tell say someone is a republican you completely uh Miss whole point that there's a lot of flavors of Republicans and and and you've got the the uh the progressives on the left and yet you've got the Hillary Clinton folks and you've got the the folks on our side like Nikki Haley the uh the combat Barbie doll uh you know she missed her they could have turned her into a
doll and had her as like a GI Joe made back in the 60s remember the old GI Jo's the real cool ones anyway I digress but uh she those that's a that's the fat nougat layer that's kind of the mono party it's the the Nick the uh the speaker of McConnell's uh the folks who basically make up that the the political you guys I think call it the political class and I'm not in that and I don't want to be in that and a lot of us have recognized that man that's a mess and and there's nothing there's no good
there so so Victoria is part of that uh she's part of the Dick Cheney um all the folks who basically believe that some somehow using our military might as the first predicate in any national security or foreign policy issue is is what they do uh can I use the word uh TR trotskyites in your show am I am I allowed to say that I think they're all it's it's a as blade Holt and I were talking about it's the parade of proat is what they are and a lot of these folks uh never found a political home the
y kind of float back and forth between the Democrats and Republicans I think they're back going to the Democrats right now because you know the Democrats are you know being progressives see seem to be most uh uh uh intellectually friendly to their brand of National Security and foreign policy so you see them kind of float back and forth some of the folks came over during the Reagan years they floated back you know it's it's it's it's like a precancerous uh uh node that just can't find a spot in
the body politi that keep keeps floating around and you can't quite cut it out because it moves fast and I think that's what we're faced with right now most people I talk to I I'm a Reagan guy I still talk to the Reagan folks uh I still see Ed me the former Attorney General on a regular basis I the notable thing they they keep talking about Alexander is that hey we fought the Soviets and we didn't have to go to war to do it we actually won the war we understood by mapping mapping things out unde
rstanding the whole of the Soviet Union and understanding if you poke it here something over here is going to happen the Neons don't care care uh the point that you make often is that you you talk about the side effects or detrimental effects of sanctions oh the sanctions haven't worked oh we're going to do more really how did you not see the first ones didn't work H how do you not understand that the very thing that the very actions you take have a have a high order uh response of of failing to
achieve your objectives they're doing just fine so this is my issue as a as a as a national security guy I mentioned to Alexander and and and and and Alex Alexander and Alex where I came on I get accused constantly of being a pro- Russia Putin guy is like I'm just trying to tell you what you're proposing what you're executing and the outcomes you're seeking are not related you you will never achieve the outcomes you're seeking based on the fact you don't understand the system and so I'm you kno
w so we look at this with a great deal of disdain those of us who are trying to ex actually uh tell people you're not going to beat Putin and man they get upset it's like yeah the Victoria Newan thing and you guys have mentioned her obsession with Crea it's like get over it girl you're not going to get it back and and when you sit out as an academic which she basically is to to uh start playing with guns tanks and airplanes and telling people what to do with them with no understanding of linkage
s of how the big picture works the outcome is inevitable to what we're seeing right now absolutely now can I just say and this is where I think you can help me a great deal because as somebody as somebody who's never been involved in intelligence at all in any shape or form or military things I do not understand how it is possible that the United States government has been consistently getting Russia so badly wrong as you absolutely rightly say I remember the Cold War well I remember how well in
formed the US was about Russia at that you you used to you used to get the best understanding about what was going on in the Soviet economy from the CIA CIA was providing incredibly very detailed and very thorough updates about it I and they they understood the industrial change they understood everything that was going on there um today they don't understand Russia at all they have got they launched uh an economic War against Russia with complete lack of understanding I get of how it would resp
ond and what it would do how how has this happened why is today's United States so much less skilled at understanding these things than you say you're one of the Reagan people than you were your people were in your day well Danny Davis I did did a deep dive on this that's actually a play on his show on this very issue right before he linked us up together if you go back and watch his show we talk about it it's we do an hour of this and and the answer is Alexander the CIA has become an extension
of the political party in charge aspirations that is to say anything they do will result in an outcome or analysis which benefits your aspirations it doesn't tell you what the facts are I mean I'm a DOD guy I we I support I support the combat guys you know if you read my book operation darkheart I'm on an air assault with the Rangers I'm supporting uh Ryan ziny seals you know operationally behind the scenes so we have to deal in really factual like this is what's really going on because when you
start sending people into combat you you you really want a good outcome for them so we I'd like to believe we're more honest in our assessments C and I'm trained by CIA I mean you know I was me mentioning Alex that I actually spend some time in Williamsburg going to Camp Perry so my issue is if you as an intelligence officer as an intelligence professional decide to leave the reservation and benefit a political party then you're not an intelligence officer and I can list them off I know Jim Cla
pper John Brennan is is as amongst those and that's what you that class of intelligence officer Alexander is what is in the CIA Jim Clapper hasn't met a political narrative he didn't like that he wouldn't take an adapt and find the intelligence predicate to support and so when you have that intelligence that level of intelligence departure they're not even Intelligence Officers they're reinforcers of of narratives and that's what they do so there's a huge difference and that's why you know peopl
e like us have been behind the scenes you can go back and run the tapes um back when uh Putin was about to invade I went on the air you can Google it I said oh yeah he's going to invade well how do you know this well he pulled his uh his Yachts out of out of Germany he doesn't want his Yachts captured as incidental and everybody oh that's crazy it's like no it's an indicator it's a factual indicator that something bad's about to happen and you all have missed it and so I'm just saying my job is
to call bosel strikes the people who are in charge Alexander that's not their job their job essentially is to to find any little shred or thread that they can put together paste over and say oh here here's your intelligence and so that's why and by the way then going back to our orig your original question American Media these Knuckleheads at the senior level then feed the American Media they feed ABC NBC CBS you know and they fire people like Katherine herriage who's a friend uh when when they
get to oh no no we don't want you doing reporting my God why would you do that uh so so it's a it's a really vicious cycle you get these these political Elites who have the CIA and form them and then that that political Elite structure then feeds the mainstream media and then that that that feeding of narrative is what then drives the the the news cycle which I'm always like scratching my like head like how did that become an issue and that's what you all Europeans seem to respond to but it's a
corrupt system that does not uh validate or support the the provision of Truth to the public and it's a very dangerous thing because then people get surprised like abfa it just fell really how did that happen I thought we were winning I mean that's that's what happens in this stuff and it it just is not healthy I'm sorry if I'm droning on too long but that's a no you're not you're not at all long way of trying to explain it so no it explains something else because um it explains how that summer
offensive came about because I mean I I I I can remember reading Daniel Davis you know writing and talking about this he said this isn't going to work and numbers are never there numbers are never there and you say I mean you know your military your focus is military intelligence well surely the first thing you do before you launch an invasion like that rather an offensive like that is you work out how strong the other side is I mean I would thought that was uh that was absolutely you know basic
and I mean you know I I I'm I'm I don't know anything about this but I would have thought that you'd want to know a bit about the generals who are in charge on the other side their background you want to know about the units there you'd want to count the number of Tanks look at the logistical facilities the fortifications all of that kind of thing and only then after you've got at least some kind of picture of what you're taking on do you launch this but the Europeans can I can I hit that real
quick Alex alexand so let me let me say as a lieutenant i i i enlisted in 1981 I became a commissioner missioned officer as a as a military intelligence I was actually Counter Intelligence in 83 and I can tell you my training was focused everything on the Soviet Union everything to the things you're talking about let's understand the personalities we would put together we were taught to put together massive biographical books on Russian leaders down to the the the lieutenant colonel level from f
rom the the the first tank Army all the way down to the field we studied this we understood their thinking we looked at what happened World War II we looked at the battles we looked at K we looked at all these things of how they fought War we then studied the the terrain in Germany you wouldn't believe how many times I went through a full the Gap scenario where we would have to assess what they're going to do to come across and how we would go into an active defense you always talk about an acti
ve defense Alexander and what you talk about we were going to have to go on the active defense oh by the way we're gonna have to hold back the West Germans who wanted to start dropping nukes the moment they come across I mean this is what we came up with and and and there's a whole class of I'm not unique it's not like I'm the only one who knows this there's a whole bunch of us that came through the system and understood some of my first operations were undercover against Russia uh I actually wa
s part of the INF treaty remember the INF treaty in ' 88 I was one of the guys undercover trying to entice Russians this is an exclusive you I've never talked about this publicly I was undercover trying to entice the Russians to defect while they were here in the United States monitoring our destruction of our of of the Persian twos so I was I was undercover as a stunt man for God's sakes trying to get these guys convinced to come to walk over come to the light so I'm just I'm I'm a little bit o
ver the top here but I'm trying to make the point Alexander to your to your your premise a lot of us understand this a lot of us came through the system and understand you must study them to the level of ability to influence them and nobody has the patience to do that it's all like it's all in sin they send constantly without regard to assessing or understanding what they're trying to do it's it's a very arrogant set of of leaders who don't seem to be uh burdened by the facts necessary to achiev
e Victory the other thing I I mean you've explained a lot about the intelligence people the fact that all of these I'm doing my best well the leaders now the Brennan the clappers clappers they're basic they're basically betray they're political appara essentially that's what yes that's a good sum what what about the generals because I we're getting all of these generals you know I don't want to name any names because names well I can name names all right General Hodes then I mean he was telling
us but you know it's all GNA it's going to be easy this some summer I mean what did he know or what did he think he know I mean did didn't know did he know did he make any effort to find out what was going on is he another politician masquerading as a general I'm just asking the summary yeah the summary basically we have a whole class of generals who have become politicians in uniform and I I have advised at that level I've not hidden the fact that I was an advisor to several chairmans of The Jo
int Chiefs and uh for better for worse the ones I advised listened um I know Mark Millie Mark I was not one of Mark Millie's advisers Mark and I have been publicly at odds for a while uh there's a history there that I I we don't have time to get into um uh Dave Petraeus uh and then hajes these guys I see and and oh by the way Lloyd Austin uh if you read my book operation darkart I'm not trying to sell books I mean if you guys want to pick it up it's it's in there I worked for uh Austin when he w
as a brigadier General in Afghanistan speaking of the the guy who was actually served in Afghanistan by the way as a footnote actually oversaw the destruction of it just saying but um but uh Austin was a politician in uniform you could see it when he was a brigadier general uh Petraeus became a politician uniform once they got the goods on him for him sleeping with his biographer Paula Broadwell I can only imagine the amount of dictation going on at night between she and he during their time at
bogam just saying but um I think the whole issue relating to these guys is that they take a a step into the political realm and they give up any uh aspirational uh belief that they're going to be credible General do you think for a minute Alexander that Hodes worries about our criticizing of him no he doesn't care because he fulfilled his purpose Petraeus doesn't care these guys have great you know Studios behind them I I am always amazed at the at the production quality of of Petraeus is videos
it looks like he's living at the Taj Mahal and you know it's all this this oh you know look at me because I'm credible if you got to actually reinforce your credibility by great production values there's something wrong and all these guys have signed up to be an extension of the political uh parties that they support which at this point more or less is the Democrats it's mostly Democrats I I have to say again this is something that you know I've gradually come to see but it is shocking to someo
ne like me and I'm sure an awful lot of people outside you know who who who you haven't been following the news as closely as I do I mean they assume that these are generals that they took they took their Oaths that they take that oath seriously that they understand that one of the fundamental principles of being a military commander is that you speak truth to power I mean isn't that what generals are supposed to do as you they dealing with matters of lives and lives life or death the the genera
ls I work with absolutely do I still correspond you'd be surprised who calls me during the day I still correspond and talk to a number of generals who you guys would know by name they did Big by the way Alexander one of the notable features of the general they don't want to get political they are behind the scenes trying to actually give people like me who is a basically for more better worse a public figure the right information saying this is what's really going on it's not I'm not a brilliant
guy I'm just a knucklehead who used to do intelligence operations but I am informed by I believe some of the best Minds who basically don't have a platform and they're trying to say this is what we should be paying attention to so I'd so when I speak of something I I've already checked it by others who were smarter than me these generals you're talking about but they don't want to be political Alexander the moment you become you get into the media you become political and I think these guys are
far too happy with the Limelight they get from saying whatever they say Dave Petraeus I think is paid very well for whatever he says and apparently Money Talks I just don't it's not that I don't want to have money I don't I don't care to to to sell my soul or sell my Integrity for you know whatever they get from Ron or other places by the way did you hear Ron when Nikki Haley fell out of the race yesterday they they lowered their their Flags to half staff that's a joke I'm just kidding but but
anyway well it could have happened but my point is you have a whole class who are willing to do that and so there are people honest but their honesty is is preserved by the fact they don't get into the political linelight that seems like an enegma perhaps but that's kind of the way it works so I would actually caution your audience uh buyer whereare uh all generals are not cut from the same cloth uh all individuals who have a public platform do not necessarily speak the truth and you you need to
be very Discerning of how you look at at their comments because if someone's paying them big bucks they're going to say whatever they're paid to say is the is the now going to be pushed back because I I must assume that there are still people in the Pentagon um especially who are looking at this this and they're looking at this with horror um tell us a bit about this I mean what are they saying to each other are they saying you know look things are going horribly wrong in Ukraine we was pull ou
t or are they saying we got to pull back in and take charge and sort this out what are they saying at the moment I mean what do you think that they're saying well many people recognize like you all picked up on without direct knowledge that Newan was really calling a shot so one of the frustrations has been the the uh reluctance of senior offic ERS at the Austin level to jump in and say let's stop newand and other state department folks from making the audible calls like who showed up uh you men
tioned this a couple days ago I think yesterday too Alexander uh Newan shows up to do the uh the refering between zusy and and zilinski yeah like he's a general did you maybe think that Lloyd Austin or someone else may be one the one doing that no because she's been the one and and she's the one who basically makes all these veiled and sometimes unveiled threats that's not the Pentagon that's State Department so part of the problem is uh and I'm just going to say it Lloyd Austin is such a weak s
ister in the process of managing the Pentagon he he's allowed this to happen this is this is a decision uh that's based on not only uh a political uh uh set of of of objectives assigned to the state department by the Biden Administration by Jake Sullivan did you ever notice that Jake Sullivan you guys are old enough for remember the old TV show the the the Muppets you ever notice that he looks like Beaker from The Muppets I I just every time I see him it's like beaker but anyway I digress again
so but I'm just saying that that political class that's brilliant that's brilliant just carry on please well it's true so but I'm just saying that that that basically you have this this Unholy Alliance of academics who have influenced battle space activities and so that's the first rub of of the guys of the Pentagon it's like you're not fighting a war you're extending military force as as a tool of narrative extending military force as a tool of narrative is not a good idea it's not going to att
ain Victory and that's the issue that the people I talk to have this is not a serious strategy come on who has ever launched offensive operations without at least some level of air parody let alone air without air dominance who does this and yet Petraeus and Hodes to your point Alexander were right out there oh it's GNA work it was never going to work and so the people who understand this have been suppressed we can't talk about it we can't go out and say it's not going to work oh you're Pro Put
in no I'm simply stating based on my 30 years of experience and everything I've watched this is not going to work and oh no no you're just being negative so the people I talk to are very frustrated by the fact that they are not allowed to have their voices heard at the very senior level so they're there Alexander they're fighting a good fight but the moment you stick your head up in this political environment you're Pro Putin you're out so it's a very difficult thing to do I mean I just wanted t
o make a a number of points going back to the to your point about Tris I I have no problem at all about you saying this because I I I having encountered many actual Trist in my time I could see a lot of the signs here I mean you know um um continuous Revolution expanding the revolution all over the place um um the intense factionism by the way the dislike of Russia which trosky and his a eventually developed because Russia in its well the Soviet Union as it was rejected him all of this and and t
he obsessive intrigues which these people get up to which again is very very much a part of goes with the style and um you know I I I don't know how much of the ideology that they they kept with them but you could certainly see many many of the practices repeat themselves and I'm I'm glad you brought up the bit about um you know narratives because my wife is an academic and of course she's involved uh she's is she in she's a literature she's an English literature academic and she is extremely fr
ustrated at the way in which tools of literary criticism which were developed in the 50s and 60s have now come to shape public discourse yes and she thinks this is an absolute disaster and she's absolutely right I mean these are tools for examining novels which were works of fiction and understanding novels fiction better and now somehow or rather academics and you know absolutely right the the number of people with academic backgrounds who are in government today is just especially the American
government is is concerning in some ways type of thinking that they've developed from app by these literary theories is astonishing and of course narratives don't make facts I mean as I once said to some you know on another program I mean you know you can build all your propaganda that you like the Germans did it during the second world war they were very good at it it didn't prevent the Red Army reaching Berlin so that's what you've got to always remember about this well part of this Alexander
is the Reagan the re guys understood it very well too one of the master strokes but they understood that it's that that narrative is a supporting element to overall military Global strategy uh Reagan again I know these guys I work with them I've talked to John Layman and i' I I actually admire their work Bud McFarland and I were very close friends before Bud passed and I learned a lot from them but they did use narrative but they used it as a subordinated element to a larger like yeah you can't
count on this carrying the weight I I'll cite for you one of the most brilliant acts of propaganda ever The Hunt for Red October who doesn't love that movie and by the way it's a great movie before Alec Baldin became a knucklehead I'm just saying you know I'm no fan of Alec but he does a great job that was all done by the Navy that was a Navy narrative that was created by I mean check the history on this I'm not telling anything that's already out there and and that was amazing people loved tha
t movie I love that movie but that was all done with with a purpose of of of of making the Russians think oh yeah don't even bother to show up we're going to kick your ass so it it reinforced a narrative that was backed up by actual planning now could we have done it I don't know we'll never know there's been so many the movie threads the the there's been a number of things Sir John hacketts World War I I mean we've all looked at what could have happened there's a lot of scenarios but the the bi
g news here Alexanders we stopped it it didn't happen no we're still here there was no no nuclear war there was no Tactical exchange of of nukes there was no you know we stopped it and the idea was that the narrative was simply used to reinforce military activities which were credible we've done the opposite we've done the the the the complete negative of this it's all narrative with no credible military stuff and Putin by the way Putin and the Russians are probably looking at this like are they
serious are they really serious and I think that's what the way it is because there the the the narrative has become the primary uh driver of of policy not the the policy driving the narrative it's it's it's it's just mindboggling now I just want to talk about this incredible article that appeared about 10 days ago in the New York Times about what the CIA was doing in Ukraine now first of all I don't I still haven't really understood why that article appeared at all I would have thought all of
this was uh top secret material um but I mean there's the other question which is that what did this all achieve I mean we we have um a situation where the United States doesn't understand or know very much about Russia so you know this huge intelligence operation um a lot of activities which I to be frank to me are straight out of adjacent born Story I mean lot of it uh um I I didn't know that this kind of thing happened in the real world but then you know what do I know but what in the end did
it achieve and secondly why are we being told about it now well I think uh Victoria nulan really thought herself as a James Bond girl I think I think you know there's probably a blow Feld out there somewhere that she's uh you know sidling up to just saying if we want to use that as an as a as a kind of a picture uh I I I don't know I can't give you the specific background but I can tell you my theory this is what I think happened in 2013 2014 a massive amount of Natural Resources were discovere
d uh don the dawn boss and the Black Sea oil you know Texas Tea uh that that Discovery I think stimulated the thinking of a lot of folks on our side to think hey this is an opportunity that is not me but the neocons it's the Victorian new like oh my God this is this is great we can do a two we can grab those resources and turn Ukraine into the energy partner for all of the EU and at the same time we do that we can uh create conditions for a war with Russia and Ukraine which collapses the Soviet
collapses the Russians so I think that was their aspirational thinking let's let's take this and then oh by the way if we have a energy partner in Ukraine we don't need Russian oil or gas so this this defunds Russia too so I think the economic Concepts that were presented internally were then presented to businessmen to to to black rocks and other like hey here's an opportunity for you guys to invest and if you go along with our phony balone war and let us keep poking the bear until something ha
ppens we're going to collapse Russia and you're going to get Ukraine so I I argue much of this on the the the American side and what CIA is talking CIA was simply the the access agent for what I'm talking about yeah and I think CIA analysts would go along nodding their head oh yes yes oh yes we we agree this is a great opportunity let's figure out how we can do a covert action so I think the economic aspirations of the political class and collapsing Russia because they hate Russia come on trosy
trites hate Russia let's be honest here uh they drew this plan up and then they put it together and that's why you saw the the the midon Revolution and everything else it had nothing to do with politics it had everything to do with moving Ukraine out from under the the sphere of influence of Russia and into into the sphere of the EU and I've argued I've said this publicly we should not be involved in what I believe to be a civil war Ukraine Ukraine and Russia are are it's like West Virginia and
Virginia as far as I'm concerned and I get in a lot of trouble saying but I think it is anyway but there was an aspirational that's what so that's so what you see Alexander is the plan that came out of that aspiration and and so I you know anybody can go read the article I think many of us have seen the bones of it for a long time now just it's it's interesting to see the whole thing kind of exposed my second point then so fast forward no need you know you can go go read that why now are they an
nouncing it because I think there's about I think it's all about to collapse yeah I think they put so much shellac on the plan for so long you know the veneer is just it's just it's just uh you know it's it's an inch thin but it it's all coming out so I just don't see any way they could put a a happy face on it anymore and I think that's what we're about to see I mean Victoria Newan leaving as as much to do with Donald Trump as her own failure of purpose at this point because I think they see th
e writing on the wall and look full disclosure I'm a trump guy I was his Nation I was a nation adviser of the Trump 2020 campaign um you guys know who I I don't hide who I hang out with publicly I you know you guys see who I post I hang out with so you know I think people I talk to it's like yeah there's going to be huge changes if Trump gets elected and this nonsense is still going so I think you know there's they're starting to look at their exit strategy as far as I can tell this is my opinio
n I have no I don't know this so you know I I I I completely agree with that by the way I think that this is the fact that nuland has gone and the way in which she has gone and the people who are taking over from her within the state department as I said that does look to me like a big shift in policy given what a central figure she has been in for so long oh absolutely Central can I just say I mean this is perhaps the sort of that I uh uh uh read and and do I I go to I I'm just going to go to b
link's statement announcing her departure because uh to a sort of person like myself there are a number of rather interesting words there so it says the title is on the retirement of under Secretary of State Victoria newand so when you read about retirement that means firstly that she's not coming back ever so the door has been once and for all shut on her because of course well it's interesting you said because if you actually go to what she actually said she said that uh victoriia the art stat
ement says Victoria nuland has let me know that she intends to step down in the coming weeks so she intends to step down it doesn't say that she told him that she wants to retire but somebody took the statement and introduced that word retirement of course she's been she's left the uh State Department before and she's come back but it looks to me as if somebody doesn't want to to come back that's the first thing and then I noticed other things like we read about how truly uh Toria and what makes
truly Toria truly exceptional is the fierce passion she brings to fighting for what she leaves in and then we go on to read that um she uh makes you laugh when you most need it and always makes me laugh constantly and it and always has your back and that she always speaks her mind now maybe I'm being too British here I except that I perhaps am but all of these things look to me like what we called in Britain damning with fate praise so you you've you've retired her she didn't say she was retiri
ng or so it looks to me but you've decided that she's retiring she's got Fierce passion so she's somebody who doesn't keep a temper very well she is uh somebody we call those hemorrhoids here exactly she's somebody who speaks out very openly and straightforwardly which means to say that she's rude and impossible and that she Minds your back meaning that she doesn't I mean that that's that's how I would read a statement like this if if this was published in Britain following a bureaucratic maneuv
er like this having worked on The Fringe of the British government I could tell you that is how people would read a statement like this oh this was this wasn't firing no the simple fact is there was no uh predicate there's no like uh hey Tori's not doing well they're pretty upset with her hey uh Tori's looking to go do something with the family uh Hey man those hemorrhoids are out of control all that uh bluntness well we know it's all linked to a medical condition things like that I'm I'm sorry
I'm being a wise ass the other thing the other thing I did note here because I'm looking at it uh as well my masters are sending me a note about T I got to do TV later just saying one of the I'm looking at the paragraph two here Alexander what's interesting is that they did mention that her experiences have armed her to be an encyclopedia of knowledge which then tells me if you get if you look understand that he's going to be around and still trying to advise people so they're basically saying h
ey we're showing you the door but man you're an encyclopedia so we're going to come talk to you so her influences are not going away it's just her public face is no longer welcome this is AB all the things all the things you talk about are too obvious she's become a li ability to the narrative there's the way I'm looking at it but she'll be around absolutely the other thing that struck me about this statement is that he doesn't provide the reason why she's going I mean usually if people leave I
think we talked about the reason yeah I know but if people if people leave in you know in in a good way you know they say you know that she's decided exactly as he said that she wants to be more with the family that she's got all kinds of plans or all sorts of things that you wish her well for the future in what she undertakes and there's none of that in this statement here no so that's where I come back to to the point that I asked you before that is the push back and are the people starting to
push back and say look enough's enough you've led us into this shambles in Ukraine and when I say you I mean Victoria new led us into the shambles in Ukraine so go away and please and you know we'll be very polite friendly to you but you must go and yeah there's a song There's a song called uh uh just don't go away mad just go away I think that's kind of what they're they're talking about here and um let me be blunt and I think the American people to include the Republicans would have much more
of a stomach for what she's been proposing if it was competently LED actual objectives were achieved and you saw some level of return on investment I mean come on we're a capitalist Society we always want to see a return on investment we do and there's been no return on investment every time they've promised something it's not happened so people like me have been universally we've been critical just because it's not a good idea we shouldn't be poking our eye in the Russians yeah Putin's a bad g
uy but he's the guy they elect they love him leave it alone you know it's not our job to tell the Russian people who to have in charge and of course the neon's love doing that this you know I was in a room one time with with someone who wanted to pick the the replacement for carai is like uh shouldn't the Afghan people be picking their replacement for carai I mean you know I was on the AA with the one of their their guys talking about this like yes it's not this that is not an American value it'
s not it' be people like me it's like no no no no get out of their nonsense they have enough nonsense we don't be involved in their nonsense but that's what happened here so if if Alexander the American people had seen a return yeah I think there'd be a lot more support for continued funding I think I think the gig is up I think it's like there's no more gas in in the tank nobody's convinced Joe Biden is one of the worst possible salesmen for the concept I mean are you kidding me the Ruma presid
ent I mean I don't think he can can find his way to to the the the Resolute desk let alone actually having to make decisions on how to best uh sell tor's nonsense Tor is nonsense to the American public I just think I think it's just too much it's a bridge too far for him at this point yeah one very last thing for me which is this I mean how on Earth does victoriia Newland who's never held elected office wield the power that she does for so long I mean isn't that a sign of how dysfunctional the s
ituation has become in the united St deep State dude I mean I get in TR oh there's no deep State there's a deep State it's the permanent bureaucracy which has been heavily influ influenced by and and uh banned by the a lot of the folks who were considered neocons think about it I mean it doesn't matter if you're Clinton Bush uh Obama Trump trump had neocons in there doing stuff they have established an enclave within the government the perent bureaucracy where they're able to influence things lo
ok my friend joob Dunford General Dunford chairman of the Joint Chiefs directed based on President Trump directing it we need to pull out of Syria did we pull out of Syria Alexander did we no so who who did that well it wasn't Joe Dunford the chairman wasn't Donald Trump somebody else must have said ah we're we're not in the mood to move things out of Syria today sorry so that's what it is and I I I'd like I hope you don't think I'm paranoid but I'm just telling you there's something else out th
ere that uh sometimes it takes orders sometimes it doesn't and and often more often than not that's that's how you get a Tory a Toria newand is because it it it has essentially established a process of selecting and uh enriching those Hillary Clinton had a lot of folks they put into it um I could go through a number of people I believe were you know card carrying members of the permanent bureaucracy known as the Deep State you you kind of see him flash here and there and I think Tori is to's gon
na go and do some things to you know based on the fact that she'll retire but she'll still have huge influence on what's going on yeah Tony shaer thank you for brilliant contributions to this program I'm Al I hope it helps it helps hugely uh uh um um Alex over to you Tony uh you have time for three four questions questions sure happy to take great from Robert do you see nand's departure and the fall of Ukraine to be linked and will the US fall in Prestige of its power prerogative along with bric
ks accession so two- parter the power and prerogative is long since gone uh for the last year there's been no Prestige to speak of I don't think anybody on the world stage takes anything that blinkin says or Biden says is serious so I've argued that whatever we had is long since gone and I think inevitably at this point you see Z and and and Putin and the unaligned Nations coming together very effectively to create this this brics Coalition that's going to be very economically economically Succe
ssful by the way and I think that's something our leadership here in the United States just don't seem to understand I don't know why um I don't think they want to collapse the US currency at this point but they wanted to basically walk back its influence and they're doing a very good job of it and the second part of that question I've gone on record saying that Zin is going to be gone by the end of this month without his protection I think he's gone I think they're they're look they're just fig
uring out who's going to be the next dupe can come in in high heels and do a great dance number that you can play on YouTube who's gon to be the next leader so I think that's what's going on right and I and is it linked yeah I think it's linked I think they've seen the writing on the wall I think I think uh they have intelligence indicating that what I'm saying and what we're talking about is true that it's about to happen so do you think Russia prefers zinsky where he is that's a great question
given no thought to that Alex I've given no thought to that I I don't even know I the honest answer is I think Putin would would welcome anybody who continues to make the same mistakes that they're making to benefit them militarily is the way I look at it so right from Ronald Will trump if he's elected Will trump appoint foreign policy people different from Pompeo and Bolton or will he appoint the same o old flattering Hawks again I'm on the record going against uh Bolton I I did an editorial r
ight after he left the White House and I wasn't for his appointment and I was an adviser back then so just for the record I did not advise the appointment of Bolton with that said uh I'd like to believe so there's several competing efforts right now to look at who goes in to the next Administration if Trump wins uh and one of them is very public it's called 202 the Heritage foundation's running it they're pretty open Chris Miller former secretary of defense is is kind of running it uh I I know t
he people who are running it I I know that not only they're looking at policies they're looking at people I can't really comment any further on that at this point based on kind of but yes the effort the idea is is that you would eliminate uh sorry they're installing a new fiber optic cable in my house right now so next time I'll even more be more pry because I'll have 4K it'll be great like three 3D anyway um so no my point is is that that uh the the personality are is policy uh a little behind
the a little behind the scenes back when re when sorry back when Trump came in there was a fight between the Heritage Foundation and Rance Prius of who was going in I was a part of that battle and um prus one prus niacon SL know in you know the guy in the nougat level got control you're talking his campaign manager right no Ranch pus who was the uh RNC guy Rance Bri okay yes yes yes yes yes yeah remember R look at that time yeah you guys are great analysts so go back and look at that time so bas
ically we my my team you know the Flynn guys I was part of the Flynn kind of tribe it said no no let's have a Reagan guy pick the staff and we we had a whole slat guys that would have come in they're Reagan guys you know I'm a Reagan guy we wanted to bring back a lot of Reagan policies and they were never accepted so Rance Prius was the guy who went about trying to remove any Trump loyalist and put in the people we're talking about the Deep state folks that's what happened so I I'd like this is
a long answer to the question but I'd like to believe that Trump has learned his lesson it's like yeah don't go with the Slate of of guys who are already are in there they'll just impeach you again they'll just do the same thing again so you you want to come in and and and and the recommendation is basically Alex slice out the first three levels of leadership as best you can it's going to be hard to do but you got to do it you got to basically you know you got this you know if if you're looking
at at the government is a layers of skin you got to take that gang greenness level off you know layer off and then you're hopefully going to have skin that'll come back and grow after that but that's that's kind of the thinking of what they're talking about right now but people would be they would not you would not see the the neocons like like um uh Bolton show up you may have a few pomos Mike Mike at least would have you know I advise Mike Mike would listen some of the time we we yelled each o
ther a couple times to but I think he you know some of those guys aren't totally without the ability to listen so right uh there there was a question in here I can't find it but it was about Michael Flynn since you mentioned Michael Flynn and the question was could he have a role if Trump were to be elected in the administration or that's out of the question I I I just don't see it I Mike and I are friends I haven't talked to him for like a year but um full you know just I want everybody to unde
rstand the context I don't see it I think Mike has moved on I think Mike is doing things right now to benefit political aspirations of many in the MAA movement I'm not a MAA guy I advise MAA you know I'm I'm a I'm I'm a Reagan guy and so uh but I I think that he's found a home where he's feel feels comfortable I think he got burned really badly I think we could all agree that some of that nonsense they pinned on him was criminal literally and uh look I was one of the first guys to go on the air
uh I went on the air the 5th of March you guys can Google this 5th of March of 20 uh 20121 and said it's all it's all fake we're going to come to find that this was all made up and uh and I stuck with that and I'm still friends with the people I was on the air with one of my friends Ed Henry you'll see him on on Newsmax and into still talks about them yelling in his ear imagine this this is American Media this is behind the scenes stuff so I I get to call uh you know Fox news by the way I'm bann
ed from Fox News now just saying um I get a call uh like at 5: am 5:30 whenever Trump tweeted it's like hey we have to have you come on the air to talk about this this is a Saturday come on the air so they send me a limo there's a limo outside my house I get in it during the time from from my house in Springfield Virginia to downtown DC it's about a 25 30 minute drive I'm checking my sources hey what's going on and so my sources tell me yeah Trump was there was a wire tap on Trump okay I got it
so I go into the studio Alex get on the air and they ask me this question the video is out you can check this it's like oh Trump's claiming that he was he was wiretapped what do you say it's like yeah it's true and they freaked out they were like yelling at the at the anchor here you need to stop him you need to stop him it's like no we're going to come to find that that that Obama was aware of it we're going to come to find that the White House had to approve it that this is all nonsense and th
ey freaked out and it was like No And and so I was like the guy out there on on the limbs like what I'm just telling you what I know and it and and it it freaked people out and sure enough years later it's like yeah it was all a fake so truth tellers no matter who you are always have a challenge but I'm just saying that that the Mike Flynn stuff a lot of us knew what was going on it's just that we were told oh you know you're pro-russian it's like no we're not I'm not pro Russian I'm just tellin
g you that that what you're accusing the Russians of done doing didn't they didn't do it as a matter of fact the only people who col who coll colluded colluded with the Russians was Hillary Clinton when she was buying this stuff through Christopher steel and and that was being fed to him by Russian intelligence officer was there a collusion yeah that's the collusion right there so great story I can see Alexander's like Alexander want you would not you you would not believe some of the not behind
the scenes stuff that I've seen holy cow and I just get in trouble for just like yeah this is what I see you know it's like what's going on yeah we did a video on Matt taibe and he was covering this exact point that you were making about uh Obama's involvement and oh yeah he was and all that stuff yeah Bas yeah that's why Susan Rice did that memo it's like we did everything by the book no you didn't no you didn't no it was all no Obama knew completely he had to approve let me tell let me let me
explain this I've had to go to the White House in my operations because they were considered you all talk about them Black Operations you know things we don't talk about some of the stuff I did when I was an active operative and that's why I know these people because I had to go get that level approval back when I was in my 20s and 30s look I was in you know Jim woy once briefed one of my operations to Bill Clinton and I was in the other room because it was actually an Army operation hidden wit
hin CI channel so I had to be there so that's why I know these Jim and I are still friends to this St anyway my point being is that knowing how I had to obtain approval to get things done which basically went against policy and law the only person who could sign off on it was the president just saying some of those things are heavily regulated and overseen so to have done what was done to a presidential candidate at a time of an election you had to have Obama's personal approval period no one el
se was going to sign off on that and I'm say I'm I'm I'm going on a record here we're going to come to find someday there's an artifact that shows Obama was not only briefed he had to sign off on something there nobody nobody would have done this without that level of approval nobody can I just step in on this just just just a say because we we this is before we started our you know our Channel but we already we were already a website then and you'll find an article there which Alex and I discus
sed and which I wrote in which I actually passed what was supposed to be Obama's denial and remember Obama's a lawyer so you know oh yeah oh yeah and we pointed out there look in this article it reads like a denial it looks like a denial if you actually analyze it closely it's not a denial and Obama did this does this all the time and it it gives you a headache re reading what he says and understanding that he's telling you one thing you think he's telling you one thing but he's actually telling
you something completely different is exhausting it's exhausting but he he said you know he didn't actually say I didn't order a WAP he said you know this is under the Obama Administration it was all done in this kind of way exactly actually tells you nothing yep I'm telling I just know how things work at that level having had had to get approvals at that level myself so just saying so all right let's do a couple more questions and then we will let you go Tony from Ellena the CIA didn't underst
and Russia so well with the Ascension with the assession of Putin after yelton what what do you think happened there why did the CIA or the powers that be not see Putin coming I I think they did I mean I saw him coming uh we talked about this in DOD some of the people I advised uh saw this it's so it's it's it's one of those things that you have to go back and actually look at the verbiage during the rise of of Putin some of us saw this I've said several times he want he wants to put the band ba
ck together and I'm not saying there a good or bad thing it's just he recognized the The Prestige of the Soviet Union he said this so how then how then are are we surprised when he starts working to put together a a a a a a coalition of former Soviet countries that essentially becomes a deao Soviet Union so I I it's like he's not this has been a point of policy that he's never deviated from so accept the man of this word we're the issue um one of the notable features of um the way we look at thi
s is that we have people who understand the facts will will ignore them and I cite for you Bill uh for Robert Gates Robert Gates at the time remember go let's go back way back machine to the Reagan years um Reagan did a great job I think based on everything I watched of of pushing the Soviet Union to the brink of collapse that yes we did all the nonsense in Afghanistan and I I know the guys were involved in that that was a huge chess sucking wound for the Russians all the stuff going on there SD
I I've heard great stories of SDI of how Gorbachev was so focused they they believed Alex that we could come up with a bunch of Star Trek Like Satellites just going to shoot down shoot down their Miss they believed it it wasn't it was literally 50 years away but but we sold it and they believed it so that economic expense that we set on the Russians to say yeah we're not worried all these things work together just kind of pushed the and so when it came time when all these things after Reagan had
left under Bush things were the momentum of of the effort to essentially outspend or create economic failure within the Soviet Union when that came Gates didn't see it all this stuff was going on all these buttons were pushed by the Reagan folks Bush 41 comes in and Gates is the director of CIA I think he says oh this this it's never going to happen and sure enough right when Gates I think within a month of gates saying we don't see the Soviet Union falling for decades it falls how did you miss
that well you missed it because you didn't want to see it that's why so I think you have a same set of kind of blinders on like yeah I see the facts but I don't agree with what they tell me and that's why you need to have people in the system who are Steely eyed and willing to just basically say you know sorry Mr President I know you want X but why is the real answer and I think that often they go with X because you know you don't want to upset your boss with bad news so gotcha okay one more on
e more for from getter done 2024 is it possible that the US government is sending people into the US from South America on planes and if so without vetting or passports why and if so so can it be stopped and I think this is in reference to the Daily Mail article which came out El musk a couple of days must tweeted out that exact article yeah so the answer is yes and this is how it's being done you have Soros funded uh nonprofits non-governmental organizations who are set up in Latin America they
do two things uh they organize the convoys these these groups are in these these these nations acting above above and outside the law to set up kind of these waves of Migrant coming north and I think they've discovered that yeah we can just uh do a an end round as well by using airplanes you know we cut out the coyotes and you just bring them in and you put them into urban areas and and you know you know we live in a big country here you guys have been here it's a big place and it's hard you kn
ow once you get a a plane on the ground you just release people out they can be out there and you have other NOS non-governmental organizations funded by Soros by the way it's not just Soros Soros organizations get into a country they figure out the process for getting getting a non for getting setting up nonprofits that then live off the government dime much of the Soros efforts are hdden here as as 501 c3s uh I run a couple of 501 I'm trying we don't get funding for them we do our best um but
you know they find a way to get government grants then and pick up and do these things so I think that's how it's being done can it be stopped no I think Trump comes in they look at this they figure out who's involved yeah it'll be stopped I I I know for a fact that the Trump folks would never this or or continue the the policy if it's going on [Music] so fantastic Tony schaer thank you very much for joining us I have got your Twitter Link in the description box down below I also have a link to
project Sentinel would you like to uh say a couple of words about project Sentinel basically all the stuff we've talked about today is what we stand for I mean I I I don't believe I'm a I you know George Washington the Founding Father you know our first president had it right like let's stay out of foreign entanglements you know we've got enough issues here and I think if we lead by example and create the conditions for prosperity of all Americans that's the best thing to do as people you know I
I don't believe do I believe in a strong defense absolutely I'm a Reagan guy but I don't believe like Reagan and others is like we don't want to use that unless we absolutely have to Trump got it Trump did his best I was there in in the room with lot I said a couple times I was in the Pentagon with senior leaders and never saw Coria Nan show up or talks about strategy we a lot of us feel the same way so project Sentinel proposes and and pushes the idea of constitutional and uh founding father's
philosophy of National Security that's that's what we do and and uh it's derived out of my old boss uh we're shutting down the London Center for policy research named after Dr her blundon who was a Manhattan he was a necon but he saw the light came over abandon the effort became a you know a productive conservative and so that's what we do and then on Twitter you know Alexander I and Alex I you know I follow you guys I do my best you know I I put out the theory I didn't say this in the air beca
use I don't want to get you in trouble but my theory that Victoria nulan is actually leaving because there's a remake of Apocalypse Now and I think she's gonna play Colonel kurs I think that's what's gonna happen it's on my Twitter so I didn't want to bring it up but you know you forced me into it so I always say if I if I was to cast T nuland it would be Kathy Bates I always say that in my programs that that would be who who would be if I was the casting and and I Kathy Bates is a fantastic wel
l I hope I didn't get you in too much trouble with my irreverent comments today so you know I was a fantastic show I have your links uh in the Des in the description box I will also add them as a pinned comment as well Tony Schaefer thank you very much for joining us thanks Alex thanks alexand thank you very much thanks take care thank you take all right wow great show great show Alexander Let's uh um let's answer some uh some of the questions right let's see here we still have a few more questi
ons that we can go through and then we will wrap it up Elena asks aren't the tourist missiles breaking the pot Stam or the six plus2 agreement right I I'm not sure what agreement they're breaking but I do know and I think it might have been again one of those informal agreements that were made during the cold at the end of the Cold War you know one of the great criticisms of gorbachov is that he was getting all kinds of assurances and promises and never actually have them set down properly forma
lly in writing not that it should make any difference I mean if promise is made you know you keep it I mean that seems to be basic but I can definitely say the promises were made to the Russians at the end of the Cold War if Germany unifies there will be no uh uh F there is no possibility of a German attack on Russia ever happening again and we now have German generals talking quite openly and complacently over open lines about Germany participating in a direct military attack on Russia it is as
tonishing yeah uh fractur thank you for that uh super sticker and fractured also says the European puppets need to be replaced with leaders very true very true uh from Eric what do you think the Russians said to the German ambassador when he was summoned to the Kremlin recently they would have undoubtedly reminded him of what we disc what we discussed just now in response to that question that Germany has previously given Absolute Concrete promises that Germany will never attack Russia again and
this promise is now being openly violated and I am sure that the Russians will also have told the German ambassador um Germany involving itself in this kind of thing is an act of war and Russia reserves the right in that case to retaliate reciprocally now as to the last that might sound extreme but Putin effectively already said that in his presidential address last week h Valas thank you for that super sticker ricei says zalinski LED Russia intelligence missiles strike it's true uh there's all
over the place I don't you know I I should say when I say it's true I it's been reported wild widely um it's not absolutely confirmed but I I'm sure it's correct what apparently happened was this um zalinski went to adessa uh he met with prime minister Greek Prime Minister mitsotakis there that's another story one of the reasons he went to adessa was that he wanted to give decorations to the um Special Forces people who are operating these water drones that have just sunk this Russian warship o
f Crimea and of course he went to the secret base where these people are trained and where they operate from and the Russians were tracking his movements and that way they found out where this base was and then he left they struck the base and it was uh the Russian defense Ministry has actually confirmed on its telegram channel the fact of this missile strike not on not on their website but on the telegram Channel they've confirmed it and there's all kinds of reports the lots of important people
were killed and the stories which I obviously can't confirm you know airspace over Romania has been closed and people have been evacuated and taken to the West and all that kind of thing if this if zelinsky's role is confirmed then there will be great anger especially in Western capitals that he acted in this way and Je jeopardized the secrecy of this project oh wow I didn't know that Alinsky visited that that location I did I did my video this morning and I was going through the Greek media be
cause mitsotakis was there and I I confirmed that the Russians where it seemed like the Russians did hit this this um Naval drone fitting operation whatever was going on there that was confirmed and uh that it was confirmed that zilinski had the meeting with mitsakis in in around the same area but didn't know that that zinski had gone to that well I don't know it I don't we don't know yeah but I didn't hear that I Haven but it is all over the place I mean there are lot reports about this that wo
uld explain why he was yeah why he why his statements were very very angry he was very very panicky very angry yes um okay that makes sense so uh St Max says the DC bubble terrifies me sorry world we are trying to get them out thank you for that uh Paul McDonald thank you for that Super Chat Robert welcome to the DRFT Community neww says don't like bu or Trump the US will eventually be forced to better as it slides downwards cheers guys that Ted says uh he's right to neocons are trites Ela says
strange this is by the way this is not controversial if you go back to the 60s and you look at the background of many of the original neocons I mean it is well established I mean it's not it's it's not controversial at all actually Ela says strange back the New York Times reports about 12 CIA bases in Ukraine and sleeper cells inside Russia but everyone who has been arrested by the Russians was not connected to espionage at all do we know that for a fact I mean you know this is the kind of um se
cret world which uh you know Tony Schaffer knows but I don't and um who's arresting whom and what what they're doing and who they are I mean you know maybe the Russians wouldn't want to tell us about it I mean you know this is the kind of world we're talking about um Outsiders and we know we I'm I'm we're total Outsiders of this um Outsiders like us can't be sure about anything that goes on there we can try and decipher some of the signals we can talk to people like Tony Schaffer who can help us
some of the way but we don't know for a fact that the Russians haven't been catching and arresting people and have all kinds of things haven't been done if we're talking about the incident for example in Crimea which banf was involved in I remember the incident actually I remember the reports about it I remember the fact that this group of um Ukrainian sabots and tried to get into Crimea and there was a huge amount of anger about it from the Russians and there was this gunfight many of them kil
led and it turns out now that the Russians had been tipped off about it in advance at least that's what we learned from The New York Times so there's all kinds of things about this undercover secret War which we don't know and which we'll probably never find out ailia welcome to the Duran Community summer of 1970 says what's not in disarray in the US free Assange that Toby clear says free pdf the world teacher for all Humanity by Benjamin Kem he's aka the Imam okay not a religious figure but boo
ks easy to find right has geopolitics satury thank you for that Michael thank you for that super sticker Trevor says Everybody's Got A Plan till we stab them in the back Vicky newand absolute Trevor so so she's somebody who who you know according to Tony blinken she watches your back well she does she watches your back so that she knows exactly where to put the knife yeah L thank for that super sticker Cactus Ray thank you for that super sticker Robert says Nan's nand's abortion on the US taxpay
er question mark question mark thank you for that Robert I am Valentina says newand was okay with 500 dead Iraqi children in exchange for Saddam Ela says Toria has your back asks zi Russell Hall says is Putin a bad guy or is that just the narrative he is the President of Russia he's a tough clever uh man he can be pretty ruthless when he has to be as any world leader does by the way and you know let's be not be naive about this but I just Russians who are the people who are the best to judge him
do not think he is a bad man as far as they're concerned he's a good man who's done good for Russia Wade says my family is from Slovakia and finds the slaughter of poor white Slavic Christian Soldiers uncomfortable absolutely and I I think that so do all of us uh Dan Wilder says keep up the good work thank you guys thank you for that Dan and Sir Rodney effing says my past do payment for your excellent work oh thank you thank you thank you for that one sec Alexander I lost my place but here we a
re Laro says says Putin is not a bad guy again Western propagandist propagandistic belief got said in passing by the guest oh absolutely can I just say something about Putin I mean you must make a distinction between the cartoon character that you read about every day in the media in the west and the actual person they are so completely different from each other that it's difficult to um find any overlap between the image the Western image crafted image of and the reality and of course you got a
glimpse of the real person in the interview he recently did with Dr Carlson and you got an even more extendedly uh you know sense of him from the film the documentary that Oliver uh Oliver Stone did some years back yeah Jerry thank you for that super sticker Raphael says Putin said when the Smo started Russia will not be intimidated uh Colonel I was in US Marine can can you tell us three military meanings of this please well I can't answer that question not having myself been in the military I
I I think it's fairly straightforward I think that when Putin says that Russia won't be intimidated he means what he says and I think that's exactly right I mean this is this is the kind of policy that he's been following and we can see it clearly in the way that he's conducted the special military operation Raphael says best show on the net thank you Raphael for that Jeffrey thank you for that super sticker Roberts welcome to to the drant community Susan welcome to the Duran Community Alexander
says what is it going to take for the neocons to lose influence that is an excellent question um I don't know I mean they've survived every disaster that they've authored up to now I think there would have to be a major change in the political system in the United States I mean they're so embedded in it now um that you'd have to do pretty much what Tony Schaffer was saying you'd have to really go very deep in order to get the Gang Green out yeah Jerry welcome to to the Dr Community Resa says th
ank you gentlemen Jerry asks the New York Times exposes CIA bases in Ukraine bases get bombed agents get killed no prosecution but the US wants the extra Assange true enough Nina thank you for that super scker Raphael says so are we not going to talk about about out about the AMU about the amount of Ukraine soldiers who are turning themselves in and turn right back to fight for Russia well we we we have talked about it and we we've each of us Alex and I have talked about it in our various progra
ms and um you know there is apparently a growing flow of people who are deserting and who are going over to the the other side I should say by the way that I am very uncomfortable um about the fact that some of these people are apparently joining up with the Russian army to fight against their own former Army and I I I'm given that Russia has no shortage of men I personally would I don't think that they should be doing that that's just my view and Ela says did Putin change his mind about hitting
zalinski he's never intended to hit zalinski right at the very start of the war um Nali Bennett the Israeli Prime Minister came to him and said look zalinski asks me um you know are you at to get him and Putin said no absolutely I give you a categor categorical assurance that we are not looking to take out zalinski and this was said you know right at the beginning of the conflict in early March 2022 and the Russians have you know released video footage apparently I haven't seen it in which one
of their drones was sort of following him around and they were showing zilinski they're making it absolutely clear if they wanted to take out zensi it would be very easy for them to do but they're not doing it if you want to stay safe from the Russian military then just stand next to zalinsky for now I mean that that's how you can you can be safe from the Russian military now everything else I don't know I can't speak for other other actors in uh in Ukraine but as far as the Russian military is
concerned just stand next to zalinski and they're not going to touch you because the guys's the gift that that keeps on giving Alexander for the Russian military I mean exactly he's he's completely incompetent yes and and that's exactly what they want yes all right uh I think that is everything so um let me just do one final check uh final thoughts Alexander well it's a fantastic program and we've learned a great deal about how things have have there's been a degeneration which there clearly has
been I mean I I I know people sometimes push back on this but whatever you may think about you know the way American policy was conducted during the Cold War they did this with a very high degree of efficiency in those days and that's gone that's gone completely the people who are in charge now don't know what they're doing and I will simply say this they've landed us with the president who well we'll see how he gets through the State of the Union Address today yeah J he Lo if he loses his Q ca
rds for example what happens yeah yeah JK frog says great talk thank you for that JK frog all right thank you everyone that watched us on Odyssey Rock fin Rumble YouTube and uh the. locals.com and one more question from tabernac in war trivial causes produce momentous events newand was essentially Paris of Troy the embodiment of a fetish Gan unchecked crucified the Empire I have to say that the physical difference between par uh between Helen of Troy Victoria newand is shall we say very very gre
at but I I I I I I get the gist of what you made Ela also says Alex uh aledi keeps on giving so does Biden yeah oh from the Russian point of view absolutely yeah yeah okay thank you to our moderators as well uh VES Tish M Peter Reckless abandon and uh who else abandon vales Tish M Peter I think that is yeah those those are our moderators thank you to our moderators for everything that you do Alexander um have a have a great rest of day and enjoy the State of the Union should be interesting all r
ight take care everybody
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