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Why EVs Are Piling Up At Dealerships In The U.S.

In August 2023, it took about twice as long to sell an EV in the U.S. as it did the previous January. Prices of EVs are down 22% year-over-year and that's mainly driven by Tesla. About two thirds of EVs sold are Elon Musk's brand. Companies like Ford have ramped up hybrid production as demand has leveled off. While slightly more than half of consumers say EVs are the future and will eventually replace Internal Combustion Engines, less than a third of dealers say so. This all comes at a time when investments in EVs are more than ever. So what's really going on? Watch the video to learn more. Chapters: 00:00 — Introduction 02:06 — Shifting preferences 05:48 — High costs and uncertainty 10:38 — A trend of a blip? 14:08 — The future Produced by: Robert Ferris Edited by: Dain Evans Camera by: Shawn Baldwin Senior Managing Producer: Tala Hadavi Animation: Christina Locopo, Andrea Schmitz Additional Footage: Ford, Getty Images, Lucid, Mercedes-Benz, Tesla » Subscribe to CNBC: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBC » Subscribe to CNBC TV: https://cnb.cx/SubscribeCNBCtelevision About CNBC: From 'Wall Street' to 'Main Street' to award winning original documentaries and Reality TV series, CNBC has you covered. Experience special sneak peeks of your favorite shows, exclusive video and more. Connect with CNBC News Online Get the latest news: https://www.cnbc.com/ Follow CNBC on LinkedIn: https://cnb.cx/LinkedInCNBC Follow CNBC News on Facebook: https://cnb.cx/LikeCNBC Follow CNBC News on Twitter: https://cnb.cx/FollowCNBC Follow CNBC News on Instagram: https://cnb.cx/InstagramCNBC #CNBC Why EVs Are Piling Up At Dealerships In The U.S.

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I've been in the auto industry 40 years, and I've never seen this kind of investment. $6.5 billion strictly dedicated to EVs. Wedbush says spending on commercial EVs should top 1.2 trillion between now and 2030. We're building the future of the electric vehicle. In 2022, consumers spent nearly $400 billion on electric cars worldwide. The US is expected to add 1 million new EVs to its roads in 2023, and from 2023 to 2027. Automotive companies have committed $616 billion in total investments. Mean
while, these efforts have hit an unnerving speed bump. Ev sales are slowing. I was a little nervous about going all EV because my husband has an EV as well, and to have two EVs in the house, you know, it's challenging. I think the main issue is the long distance travel. We've been kind of in that situation. You do have to plan. Yes. In August 2023, it took about twice as long to sell an EV in the US as it did the previous January. Gas burning vehicles were still selling briskly. While slightly m
ore than half of consumers say EVs are the future and will eventually replace combustion engines, less than a third of dealers say so. You have a product that almost every automaker has hinged their future on. The government is really saying, look, we got to go with electrification. But when the rubber meets the road, when people have to make that decision and a lot of money is involved, we're starting to see that that's starting to take a bit of a hit. Tesla has slashed prices dramatically. Sal
es at some EV startups have disappointed, and companies like Ford have ramped up hybrid production as demand for their EVs has leveled off. So what is really going on and why? And what does it mean for the future? For those who are in combustion, would you suggest taking the step as the bridge, so to speak, to a p-hev, a plug in hybrid? Or do you think perhaps going right over that to an electric vehicle? There is a oversupply of electric vehicles in the industry today that is greater than the d
emand. This is Jeff Aiosa. His shop is one of 383 Mercedes-Benz dealerships around the US. It pulls in about $40 million a year, employs about 50 people and at any given time keeps about 70 cars on the lot. About a third are EVs and hybrids. It's not that the customer is not considering it or entertaining the purchase. It's the reticence to that anxiety that exists relative to the range that the battery can produce. And coupled with or compounded by the lack of public charging infrastructure. We
're perhaps moving a little bit too fast. Cox automotive said in July 2023, on average, there's a 52 day supply of ICE vehicles at dealerships. If they stopped making cars today, a dealer would have enough to last 52 days. Pickup trucks went from 52 days to turn in January 2023 to just 57 by August. Meanwhile, the EV supply was closer to 90 to 100 days. No segment has seen a rise as substantial as EVs. There's definitely a rise in, you know, how long a vehicle is going to sell a lot. It's just t
hat the EVs are sitting even longer. And the fact that we're seeing it reflected in the used car market as well, that tells us this isn't just like an isolated incident. This is something that is very targeted. Numbers elsewhere suggest enthusiasm for EVs has dampened from a pandemic era high in 2021. 86% of US buyers were considering an EV. That number has since fallen to 67% in 2023. In May 2021, Ford opened reservations for its F-150 lightning, the fully electric version of the most popular v
ehicle in America. It closed them by the end of the year because the company said it had enough reservations for three years worth of production. But by September 2023, Ford said it was ramping up production of its hybrid F-150 because sales of the lightning had slowed. We literally had people who would follow car carriers to the store, hoping that when it got here that the car on the carrier that they wanted to buy was available, only to learn that it was already sold. People are rushing to the
dealership. They're going bananas, paying over mSRP. They're bidding. Wars are going on. People are like, I hope that guy doesn't buy it. If it falls off the truck, I'll buy it kind of attitude. I mean, just completely by the wayside. Now it's just been one year and the market for EVs is upside down. The softening of sales isn't just happening for legacy brands. The buzzed about luxury EV brand lucid has seen two consecutive quarters of weaker than expected demand. Most recently, it delivered 6
00 fewer of its high performance, 500 mile range luxury air sedan than Wall Street had expected in the second quarter of 2023. There are larger economic challenges, interest rates are up and so borrowing money is a lot more expensive. Inflation has reduced purchasing power and supply chains are disrupted. The inflexible nature of the EV supply chain is pressuring OEMs to make EVs despite consumer pullbacks. Then there are the pressures of meeting government mandates. Think of the lens of the man
ufacturer, where it typically takes a cycle time of upwards of 7 or 8 years, from inception to showroom for and wheels rolling. Right. So that's a big ship to turn. And then back to the mandates, the regulatory pressures. When you have to meet those, it's not like you can just throw a switch and convert from combustion to electric. There is a specific pricing challenge with EVs. They tend to be more expensive than their gasoline counterparts. That may explain why the luxury category hasn't slowe
d down as much as EVs have. A luxury mid-size electric crossover, say, will often have a higher transaction price, or even a higher sticker price than a comparable fuel burning one in the same class. The average transaction price for a vehicle in the US was about $48,000 in September 2023. The average transaction price for an EV was somewhere between $53,000 and nearly $60,000, depending on whose data you use. Meanwhile, the EV buyer is changing. Drury says about 40% of EV shoppers are trading i
n a vehicle they already own for a new one. That is about twice what it was a decade ago. That suggests that a lot of those EVs purchased a decade ago were supplemental vehicles. An extra car. Like if you had a two car garage, you got a third. And part of that was because those EVs, they qualified for lots of tax credits. You got HOV access lane. I know in Southern California that was such a huge thing that vehicles with that sticker they would sell at a premium. As a Mercedes dealer, Jeff Iosa
still interacts with a lot of well-heeled customers. Even he has seen evidence of this. The early adopters were very techie and they were very, I want to say, more in the space of luxury. Last year we had 30 something models in the marketplace to almost 90 plus models today. A more mainstream buyer. So these are the chargers for fast charge charging and home charging. Aisa sells an EQB, a more mainstream priced EV that retails somewhere in the high $50,000 range. It's not cheap, but it's only sl
ightly above the average vehicle transaction price, and it's a lot less expensive than the EQE, which can run above $90,000, and the EQS, which can run up to 140,000. These vehicles won't be worth nearly as much as, say, an ICE equivalent, which has more certainty involved. You know, there's not going to be leaps and bounds of technology and improvements in ICE vehicles, but we know there will be with EVs. Batteries on average, are warranted for ten years to give at least 80% efficiency. That's
not the case with ICE . ICE cars, everybody puts out a good car today and they last well over 20 years. I think there's an evolving sense of buyer remorse. You see this in televisions where, you know, every 6 to 9 months, you feel like the same 52 inch TV is cheaper at Best Buy or pick your location for the same functionality. And, you know, especially now that OEMs are lowering prices. At the end of the second quarter 2023, several automakers announced that they're moving to the Tesla charging
standard, also known as the North American Charging Standard, or NACS. That means there are vehicles stuck on factory floors with an obsolescent charging outlet. Charging is a sore spot for all types of buyers, whether current, past, or prospective. This EV will allow you to plot a course and determine and predetermine when you arrive at different charging stations. Then there is the government. There's a fair amount of feedback that we get from customers that say, you know, we just don't like t
he government telling us what we should buy. By 2032, 67.5% battery electric is aggressive. I think by 2035, all electric is aspirational. I don't think that that's going to happen. EVs sitting on lots does not necessarily equal waning demand. EVs made up a record 8% of US vehicle sales through early September 2023. If we looked at EVs as their own segment, we took everything and put it together. It'd be the number six segment in the industry. So it's not as if nobody wants them. There's no dema
nd. However, there is a tremendous degree of regional variation. While there have always been regional stories in auto pickup trucks in Texas, luxury cars in the northeast. EV adoption rates pretty closely track to economic metrics: pump prices, and home energy rates. If gas prices get up to close to $6 like they are in most parts of California, we're going to see a lot of consumers there shifting toward toward EVs. Meanwhile, in Texas, gasoline prices are almost $2 a gallon cheaper in Texas tha
n they are in California. But there is another reason why inventories have been building. Tesla, which dominates the EV market, has been hacking away at its prices. In August 2023, Cox Automotive data showed the average price paid for an electric vehicle was $53,376, down from $53,633 in July 2023, and down from more than $65,000 a year prior. Again, that decline is driven almost entirely by Tesla. In August, model three transaction prices were down 21% year over year, while model S was down 17%
. Model Y dropped 16% and model X was down 13%. At the beginning of 2023, the model S was priced at $104,990, and the model X was priced at $120,990. By September 15th, the price was $79,990 for the X and $74,990 for the S. It's about two thirds of all EVs sold are Tesla's because their prices are so aggressive. So not only do we have fewer consumers looking for an EV in Q2, we actually saw that those that were. It's very hard to get beyond Tesla with their prices and certainly with their superc
harger charger network to go buy an alternative. It's an unlevel playing field when you have a manufacturer that sells in the space of vertical integration direct to the consumer and not use the franchise system, it gives some flexibility to that direct seller to be able to adjust their pricing. And in the case of Tesla, conveniently below the threshold so that you can capture more of the incentive money from the government. Meanwhile, automakers are releasing EVs that are often selling for abov
e $50,000. Ford hiked the starting price on its F-150 Lightning in March of 2023 to $60,000, a 50% increase over the original $40,000 starting price. Ford has since cut that to $49,000, but again, that is still $10,000 higher than the automaker had originally planned. It's very expensive to bring EVs to market, and a lot of cases, vehicles that were announced at a certain price point a couple of years ago. The automaker has not been able to hold those prices in this market, and so those earlier
announced prices have have tended to creep higher. The picture that starts to emerge. The EVs that are on the lots don't match what consumers want and what dealers are selling. Don't get rid of your combustion car. I would like to see the government reassess their regulatory pressures and perhaps revisit the incentives through the IRA. Inventory is going to rise at the same time that the auto industry continues to launch more and more EVs at that $50,000 to $60,000 price point, which is already
well saturated. There is demand for EVs. It's just that their Teslas and their a lot lower price than what we see. If perhaps we could hit the rewind button and do things differently than we have. I would like to think that maybe we would have slowed things down, maybe been more in the space of hybrid as a bridge to a more perfected battery technology. We have been in the space of combustion ICE for over a century, so we have a lot of experience with it. Battery electric is at ground zero. We do
n't know. We don't know, and we're still kind of cutting our teeth with it. Clearly, I believe that we've moved a little bit too much and too fast. But there are reasons to be optimistic. The S&P study showed that people were willing to accept charging times of up to an hour and less range on an EV than on an ICE vehicle. That's another shining light for EVs. Is, again, this understanding that they're not necessarily going to get what they get with their typical ICE vehicle, but they are actuall
y willing to accept something less than what they're getting with their vehicle. And while the number of buyers considering an EV did fall from 2021 to 2023, it is still higher than it was in 2019. The analogy that I like to use is we all have smartphones today, and most of us had flip phones. And if I said to you, give me your smartphone and I'm going to give you back a flip phone, it would be like saying, give me your EV, I'm going to give you back a combustion. And I would say that 90 plus pe
rcent of the people, including myself, would say, I'm good, I'm keeping my smartphone, I'm keeping my electric car. You don't want to go backwards.

Comments

@fordfairlane6580

A major obstacle to EV adoption that is always overlooked is the inability of apartment dwellers to charge at home.

@garyz5456

According to AAA, EVs often lose 12% of their range in cold weather, but the loss leaps to 41% with the heater on full blast.

@Shadow_Banned_Conservative

There's also a big disconnect between what these highly compensated CEOs think and what the average middle class buyer thinks when buying a vehicle. Even us upper-middle class folks don't want to spend $80k on a vehicle.

@HireMyTimestampTalent

00:02 EV sales are slowing despite significant investments and government support. 01:58 There is an oversupply of electric vehicles in the industry today that is greater than the demand. 04:28 The market for EVs is facing slower sales and weaker demand 06:25 EVs tend to be more expensive than gasoline vehicles 08:23 EVs offer more certainty in technology and improvements compared to ICE vehicles 10:31 Regional variation and competitive pricing contribute to EV inventory buildup. 12:37 Tesla's aggressive pricing and supercharger network make it difficult for other EV manufacturers to compete. 14:43 EVs are piling up at U.S. dealerships due to lower prices and Tesla's dominance. You Can't Judge A Video By Its Cover. you can by its first few chapters and certainly by its last.

@vinhsanity

My neighbors Tesla gets horrible mileage during the deep freeze MN winter. Last winter when we had a couple weeks of single and low double digits, he said he was getting about 100 miles at most on a full charge.

@jiangbian76

The government isn’t fast enough to patch potholes on the roads. How could you expect to have enough charging stations.

@jonathanfeliciano2034

Prices are too high, and dealerships keep adding more dealership fees. It's ridiculous. On top of that, interest rates don't help.

@user-is3bs1be4g

The problem is simple. When you are low on fuel,you stop and fill up. In your EV,serious planning is needed.

@Riverbend1752

I recently graduated from university. When I moved, my parents gave me a 5-year-old gas car with 77k miles. I'm going to run that into the ground and hope that in that time battery and charging technology will have improved to where a bunch of these issues have been largely solved and made more affordable. Otherwise, I'll look for a hybrid of some sort.

@jrstar1439

I live in Texas and EV sales have never taken off. Most dealers don't even have EVs on their lots. Plus, until the price goes down there will be little to no demand in Texas. Texas isn't funding charging stations so if you have one your going to stay closed to home. Once you own one, you'll pay more to charge then buying fuel plus pulling over to charge is a lot longer then pulling over to fuel up.

@rodneyrabel7527

What worries me Most about the EV is this longevity I want something I know I can depend on for 15 to 20 down the road when most EV only have a 10 year warranty on their batteries. That is a concern to me and the fact sometimes it’s very hard to find a charging station for EV for me. I live in an apartment building so there’s nowhere for me to charge it. I would love a hybrid that I would have the best of both worlds. I am not crazy about plug-in hybrid with Ford on a couple of their models. They only have a 25 mile driving range with a full charge to me. that’s just ridiculous. What’s the point of even doing it I want something that can do a lot better than that And the hybrid is where I look at.

@richtheking7157

I rented an EV. The biggest issue was anxiety about the range particularly if you’re traveling to a remote location. Lack of charging stations is still a real problem and obsolete ports is a real issue as well.

@speakingofgreg

Im not fond of Tesla, but I do like the fact that they've been steadily slashing the prices of their vehicles, and that you can literally order one straight from your smartphone. No haggling, no excessive unnecessary markups, you don't have to stay there all day, etc... I think its time we allow all automakers to sell direct-to-consumer and cut the middle man.

@craigkdillon

The cost of battery degradation and replacement is a major issue. If you take care of a gas car, it will last you 250,000 miles or 20 years. The huge cost of battery replacement makes the owning of an old EV impractical, IMO.

@don-cw1yz

They cost too much. New tech usually does not work that well and has a lot of issues. Why would a consumer buy the current EVs when Toyota is working on a solid-state battery that they say will have a 500-mile range and be able to recharge in about 10 minutes. Condos and apartment buildings are now banning lithium-ion E-Bikes due to fire risks. The insurance companies are demanding that E-Bikes be banned or they will not insure the building. How long before the insurance companies say the same about lithium-ion EVs?

@JorgenRomeMojo

We have the coldest winters in many years here in Scandinavia, some places they never have seen lower tempraturs in recorded history, and the EV's and yeah electric buses that we have struggles big time , the buses often take no charge at all. many EVs is also crazy expensive to repair.

@factchecker1980

An unknown factor for me is the potential COST OF REPAIRS and maintenence as well as LONGIVITY. Buyers if EV's are TAKING A BIG RISK.

@Armalite223

A friend of mine pre ordered the lightning in Canada. 75k when he pre ordered, when they wanted to deliver 2 years later, it was 140k. That's why they are sitting at dealerships.

@kc5hgv

You cannot switch from Gas to EV. When I was in Washington state, I rented a car which was a Ford Fusion Hybrid. I was good on gas mileage, and I liked it. We stayed 7 days traveling up there and filled the tank once before we turned it in to the Avis rental.

@williambuechner1212

We have an EV manufacturer just down the road from here in Casa Grande, AZ....they are piling up on the lots of the manufacturers as well. They have thousands of these things sitting in the AZ sun waiting for delivery...to someone...