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Kids are sensitive, aren't they? So why do they seem to seek out horror, of all things? Do they just like being scared, or is there something deeper going on here?
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if you attended an elementary school in America
any time over the last four decades I'm about to say three little words that will send your heart
Rising Scholastic Book Fair see your pulse just spiked a little didn't it obviously I never
attended one of these myself but they're sort of enshrined in history as something akin
to holidays for the children who did I've heard so many people describe the experience
walking into your school gymnasium or library or Auditorium to see the place trans
formed
full of colorful cardboard shelves loaded up with fresh books for a lot of kids the most
precious finds would be the newest Guinness Book of World Records or Ripley Believe it or not
but for a surprisingly large number what they wanted more than anything else was the latest
issue of Goosebumps and should we be surprised horror aimed at children is a whole industry
after all Goosebumps was a runaway phenomenon that changed the landscape of publishing scary
stories to tell in the dark
is Infamous to this day for illustrations so haunting it ended up on
a number of banned books lists we've talked about Coraline plenty of times on this channel even
now we have the whole mascot horror genre with titles like Five Nights at Freddy's practically
dominating the market for children's media it seems a little dissonant isn't it what is it
about these spooky titles for kids why is it that children the most innocent and vulnerable
of all human beings apparently just love to be [Mus
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with a human child but one thing I do know through
osmosis a lot of their motivation to do anything
comes down to whether or not it's fun taking a bath is not fun going to bed is not fun homework
is not fun but playing video game that's fun pretending to be Warrior Cats on the playground
fun having the daylight scared out of You by this picture for a lot of kids surprisingly fun
but when you think back to how upsetting it was to be afraid as a kid it might be weird to hear
fear framed as fun like this I think nevertheless despite the bad fe
elings I think there's a lot
of Truth in it first first off I think it's a mistake to treat kids as a different species or
something they are more vulnerable they lack much of the context adults have and their minds and
bodies still have a lot of changes to undergo this is true but they are also you know still
human and a lot of the reason adults are drawn to horror are the same reason for kids for instance
when you come out of a state of horror when the adrenaline and cortisol stop and the
dopamine
and endorphins kick in you experience a sense of pleasure or Euphoria horror is a way to access
that danger response without ever actually being in danger it's part of why people enjoy visiting
haunted houses on Halloween or riding intense roller coasters and although perhaps more delicate
kids are certainly not immune to this phenomenon you'll also notice a lot of the situations in
which people enjoy being scared are also social in nature sharing the intense emotional roller
coa
ster of fear and the subsequent release from it is a powerful way to bond with the people around
you kids feel this just as acutely as adults if not even more so look at the way they go out of
their way to get scared together they dare each other to summon Bloody Marry they play with Ouija
boards they watch horror movies at sleepovers they show each other the unusually freaky illustrations
in that book of SC stories they found in their classroom it almost becomes a form of play
I mean how d
ifferent is it really for kids to make believe zombies and werewolves instead
of pirates and princesses it's all imagination anyway just you know instead of Escapist Whimsy
the play they're engaging in is with anxiety and danger and the management of those negative
emotions by taking things which frighten them and exploring ing them through play they can begin
to understand or even befriend their nightmares so okay in a general very human sense I suppose
it's not hard to understand why any
human at any age might enjoy horror there are certainly some
outstanding psychological benefits but I think there's something interesting about the particular
way that children engage with the things that scare them I mean adults play with this stuff
too right often for the same reason reasons well I think the difference is that children have
something adults don't children have magic or at least that's how they see things there's a concept
in Psychology called magical thinking which is alm
ost exactly what it sounds like a worldview
which basically accepts the premise that not all things which happen in reality are rational or
explicable to the magical thinker some things truly are Supernatural or ineffable it's a term
that's often been used to denigrate religion and magical practice but that's a topic for another
video in the case of children it actually is a pretty apt term because children really don't
know how to rationalize the world around them so why would they questio
n the rationality of the
things that they see or that they think they see in it children engage with their world through
this lens in a lot of ways but perhaps one of the most recognizable is the phenomenon of imaginary
friends according to a 2004 study around 65% of children up to age 7 experience this in time
most kids will of course outgrow their fictional companions but while they're still engaging with
that fantasy how are they supposed to know what doesn't count as real even if the vi
sual in their
head is ridiculous it certainly feels very real to them I think this is part of why imaginary friends
or kids with weird imaginations so often crop up in horror kids in a very real sense are able to
see things adults aren't even if those things are purely psychological or imaginary is it any
surprise then that children's horror is often so different from adult horror despite the same
basic wiring scary stories intended for kids don't have the same bar for rationality because
kids won't try to rationalize them in the same way a child can imagine and accept the idea of
an intrusion into reality they can believe that something is completely senseless but real
nonetheless I think I made that sound almost lovely but for a kid I wouldn't be surprised
if it was often overwhelming if anything goes that means the scariest stuff might as well be
real too it can be anxiety inducing to live in a version of the world with such ragged edges
where the boundaries are still not
yet defined which is I would Hazard part of what makes horror
so enticing to Children it presents the unknown or the transgressive in ways that are absorbable
quantifiable and most importantly conquerable especially The Surreal stuff if you ever watched
the show Courage the Cowardly Dog growing up you know exactly what I mean that show was kind of
revolutionary in terms of the visuals it would dare to broadcast on a popular children's Network
I mean look at this and this stylistically this
stuff makes no sense it feels like pieces
of completely different shows found their way into this one it's weird but it really works
in the 20 or so years since the show first aired countless Forum posts and comments have turned
up across the internet from people recalling how terrifying they found these moments and how
much they adored the the show for pushing those boundaries this kind of weirdness is so delicious
to a child's overactive imagination because I think they don't have the fr
ame of reference
to question it to a developing mind it feels real and strange and reality expanding it might
make the world scarier for a moment but remember children aren't dumb they just lack context and
you know most kids want to learn comparing make believe to real life is an incredible way to
discover how the world does and does not work triumphing over the fear of a monster primes a
child to triumph over other more tangible fears just you know again without any actual danger it's
pa
rt of the appeal of fiction in general honestly exposing ourselves to scenarios and Concepts we
would never encounter in our own lives goosebumps in particular was great at this the books more
or less followed a general formula a kid often in a new environment a new home a new school
encountering a weird new Neighbor comes across something scary they're terrorized harmlessly by
it for a while and then finally there's some goofy twist gotcha ending even if the kids do come to
harm it's almos
t always set right by the story's climax I think the key feature of these stories
is that they put relatable protagonists in novel situations that are scary but never too scary
never too real never a kid getting mugged to death by a stranger or Contracting a terminal
illness even if the danger does skirt a bit close to real life it always unfolds with enough
Hyperbole and humor that against real life kids know not to take it too seriously for instance
many kids probably experienced the Spli
t Second of panic when they have trouble taking off a
rubber Halloween mask in fact this exact act experience was the inspiration for the Goosebumps
book The Haunted Mask there's an instant real world connection but then you get into the weird
stuff no kid will ever experience a Halloween mask telepathically communicating with them or fusing
to their face and taking over their personality it might be a frightening visual it might put a kid
off poorly manufactured rubber masks for a little w
hile but as a child grows and gains experience
they'll compare that fantasy and that Fe with reality and discover that there was never anything
to be afraid of to begin with aside from a few bad dreams no harm done and now they can apply that
logic to other sources of anxiety later in life fears that never materialize they know now from
experience are not worth losing sleepover not all children's whr can mask everything in humor
and hyperb though some of it is and should be a bit darker sto
ries like Coraline and Mary
Downing hans's books allow themselves to be both scary and much more serious than the candy
colored goop dripping world of Goosebumps these stories handle themes and Concepts more grounded
in reality such as the loss of a loved one or the cruelty of adults though these things are close
to home things that children can and regrettably do experience in real life it's good for them
to have practice grappling with them first in a safe fictionalized way through story
the author I
mentioned a second ago Mary Downing H exceptional at this her book The Old Willis place is about two
siblings who become friends with the daughter of the caretaker of an old abandoned house nearby
after sneaking into the house and accidentally freeing the ghost of the cruel old woman who
lives there the siblings finally admit to the caretaker's daughter that they too are ghosts
they died of starvation some years back when the old lady locked them in her Cellar and had a
stroke
before she could let them out that's messed up but very honest I know it's morbid to think
about but children aren't immune to suffering children get hurt they get traumatized sometimes
tragically they die and the people around them do too it's not even unlikely that a child will
encounter it while they're still young nothing can really prepare you for it but spending some
time with the idea of it in the harmless realm of fiction can certainly help at the same time of
course we don't want
to traumatize children with imagery and ideas they aren't ready for we don't
really need to give kids a sense of existential dread before they even know their multiplication
tables we also don't want kids to be completely sheltered from these things and that's one of the
things I love so much about horror you can break down legitimately scary things in an approachable
fictionalized way in The Old Willis Place the fact that the siblings are dead isn't a traumatic
Revelation because look you'
ve been following them the whole time they may be ghosts but look
at them they're fine they're still here with the same memories and personalities it's a lens that
allows kids to realize that yeah death happens and children have no special protection against it
but there's a layer of magic and distance that makes it all relatively harmless at the same time
it's an opportunity to understand the reality of the situation without also developing a fear of
it if kids are magical thinkers then it
makes a lot of sense to reach them and help them think
about their reality through that lens I think this is why the vast majority of children's horror
is Supernatural or Fantastical in nature you would be hard pressed to find a Horror Story aimed
toward children that's about say home invasion or terminal illness is that sort of horror while
realistic doesn't have that essential distance which reassures children that it's all made up
and that they are in fact safe exposing a child to somet
hing like that could just be potentially
traumatic monsters and ghosts are much more fun to fend off for kids than you know legitimate
rational fears or life altering paranoia I think this safety net of fictionalization is a crucial
part of what makes horror so fun and exciting for children as opposed to just genuinely disturbing
at the end of the day it's just a story and it's important that that's made clear no matter
what happens no matter how freaked out you might get you can always cal
l it quits and
go do something else until you're ready to come back and keep playing it is dissonant even
for me to see a child obsessed with all things dark and spooky that's not what adults tend to
expect from them but to the kids experiencing it it's something else completely what might seem
to grown-ups like inappropriate nightmare fuel is to a child's eye a magical Adventure that allows
them to experiment with tantalizing new feelings and Concepts to Children scaring themselves at the
idea of monsters and ghosts is not so different from say putting on a sock puppet show or making
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I think young people enjoy horror due to it being "more mature". Knowingly or not, every child wants to become an adult, and horror is certainly a way to feel more like one. Even if said horror is specifically designed for children.
As a child, EVERYTHING was magical. Everything was superstitious. And having an extreme fear of the dark as a kid, horror intrigued me. Scooby Doo, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Goosebumps, even Disneys sing along of the Haunted Mansion on that VHS tape. And this video just gave me another layer of realization to understand my spooky childhood. Thank you Talefoundry.
A little girl, when I did internship at a school summer 2020, was sort of avoided by the teachers, because she loved Five Nights at Freddy, SCP monsters and other "weird" stuff like that, which basically all other kids didn't like, nor the teachers, mostly because they didn't know what the things was. Or thought her drawings of those beings was just terrifying. When I saw the drawings, I mentioned their names of the things she was drawing from different franchises, and she was happy, and showed me them. I loved seeing a child being interested in things outside the norm, even drew some of them with her, and she was always so happy. Having an adult that saw with her, either joining in on the drawing in general, or just simply not judging her drawings. I feel many adults and teachers avoid what kids find interesting, and do nowadays, especially when games are involved. Teachers was shocked how much I could reference from the gaming sphere, seeing how the kids at the school gravitated towards me for simply knowing what the subject of their discussions was about. More adults need to expand their knowledge of what kids like, teachers and parents especially, because if you deal with kids, should know what they're into
You mentioned that most kids stories don't talk about stuff like home invasions or terminal illness, because those things are too real and traumatising. Well, considering how people react to Bridge to Terabithia, I think you're spot on - kids WERE traumatised by that movie because it specifically covered a realistic death. And why Artax dying hit us so much - we've all lost a beloved pet.
Being scared and being intentionally scared are two wildly different things
I think kids horror is a very good genre, as it can show them to face their fears at an early age and fuel imagination whilst developing. It’s perfect for showing them a different kind of media instead of whimsy. The reverse can also be the same as adults, not all adults like edgy, horror content.
When I was younger, I always were terrified by the FNaF animatronics, but when I decide to see what the story was really about, I stop being afraid and start to enjoy everything about the franchise
When i was an infant, I often woke up crying in the night. My mom could do nothing to get me to go to bed. My dad put me on the couch and watched public domain black and white horror movies with me. it always worked. Dunno what that says about me, but I do love horror still
As a 14 year old fan of horror things (less the Goosebumps way, but more like FNaF) I am shocked at how much I felt connected to this. So, thank you.
It's weird. When I was little, I was a complete crybaby who couldn't handle anything scary. Now nothing seems to scare me even if it should. It's like I ran out of fear or something.
I choose to believe that morbid curiosity is necessary for emotional and mental growth. You have to be willing to be scared so that you can choose to be brave
I know the reason many kids I knew growing up "liked" horror was because it made them look cool. It was forbidden. It was like some flex to be say "oh yeah I i watched this very scary adult thing"
It was Ghostbusters for me. 4 year old me was convinced ghosts were real so it was nice to see a movie with grownups who not only believed in ghosts but could get rid of them with awesome laser backpacks.
When I was a kid, scary books weren’t stories. They were these, haunted artifacts. Each book felt like a forbidden relic, and whatever I read within felt as though I had peeked into the hidden world, seemingly hidden, but always there. A child’s imagination and gullibility is what made me never read this one booked called Ouija. While I read it, it felt as though I were being cursed the more I read. Knowledge and information, so easy to access, with the only hurdle, being fear. The horror genre, when I was a kid, was like an interactive book. Where your goal is to overcome your fear, for the sake of knowing how the story goes. It’s eldritch really.
when i was around 12 i had an overwhelming anxiety regarding the internet creepypasta Jeff the Killer. it was so bad that i ended up forever changing my sleeping habits because of how i "protected" myself from being one of his victims, as he would invade homes and kill families. very much a good example of a child being forever traumatized by a scary story that tackles realistic horrors (home invasion and murder).
Just like the Sandman story we shouldn't forget that the Germans were really good at writing haunting stories.
As a kid I genuinely sought to understand the supernatural. Because as a kid, it was always around me. I investigated horror in hopes to understand my own life.
I was one of those kids obsessed with horror; I ready Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark and Goosebumps all the time. I never really thought about why I enjoyed it so much, but this makes sense. I still like the more fantastical and supernatural kind of horror. Real horror just feels kind of depressing.
There was one series of books that caught my eye at the Scholastic book fairs as a kid, and while they were technically a form of horror, they weren't a typically horror either: the Killer Species books In this series, a boy who recently moved to Florida with his father uncovers plot after plot by a mysterious ecoterrorist to use genetically modified creatures to overcorrect imbalances in the local wildlife, whether that be creating giant flying alligators to stabilize the Everglades or creating super barracudas to wipe out invasive lionfish populations in the ocean