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Why You Need to Read Dostoyevsky - Prof. Jordan Peterson

Psychology professor Jordan B. Peterson highly recommends the works of Russian writer Fyodor Dostoyevsky (1821 - 1881) and discusses the classic novel “Crime and Punishment”. This clip is only a small excerpt of Jordan Peterson's lecture “2017 Personality 04 05 Heroic and Shamanic Initiations” held at the University of Toronto. You can watch it entirely here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLc_MC7NQek If you - by chance - would like to get started with Dostoyevsky, here are some useful links. Fyodor Dostoyevsky's Amazon page: http://amzn.to/2EYxL1m (US) http://amzn.to/2orAQMO (UK) http://amzn.to/2EXxsnb (CA) Crime and Punishment: http://amzn.to/2opujCy (US) http://amzn.to/2osjpvY (UK) http://amzn.to/2Hz8WYa (CA) You may also be interested to know that Dr. Peterson's book “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos” is finally available. You can find it here: http://amzn.to/2ipaBnQ (US) http://amzn.to/2kpdXv9 (UK) http://amzn.to/2jTRq67 (CA) Don't miss out on his best selling first book “Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief” which much of his lecture material is based on: https://amzn.to/2rhChiA (US) https://amzn.to/2riBZYR (UK) https://amzn.to/2HRMyZI (CA) The above are Amazon affiliate links. Please visit http://www.psyche-matters.net for categorized clips and more Jordan B. Peterson related content!

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6 years ago

and so I would say with regards to fiction if you take someone like Dostoyevsky or we think it's a favorite of mine by the way I would highly recommend that you read all five of his great novels because they are unparalleled in their psychological depth and so if you're interested in psychology Dostoyevsky's the person for you Tolstoy is more of a sociologist but Dostoyevsky man he gets right down into the bottom of the questions and messes around transformative reading anyways Dostoyevsky's cha
racters this character named her Skolnick oov is a character in crime and punishment and Raskolnikov is a materialist rationalist I would say which was a rather new type of person back in the 1880s and he was sort of taken by the idea that God was dead and took and convinced himself that the only reason that he that anyone acted in a moral way in a traditional way was because of cowardice they were unable to remove from them the restrictions of mere convention and act in the manner of someone wh
o rose above the norm and so he's tortured by these ideas he's half starving he's a law student he doesn't have enough to eat he doesn't have much money and so you know he's not thinking all that clearly either and he's got a lot of family problems his mother's sick and she can't spend them sending much money and his sister is planning to engage in a marriage that's loveless to someone who's rather tyrannical who he hopes will provide the family with enough money so that he can continue in law s
chool and they write him brave letters telling him that she's very much in love with this guy but he is smart enough to read between the lines and realizes that his sister is just planning to prostitute herself in you know in an altruistic manner he's not very happy with that and then at the same time as all this is happening he becomes aware of this pawnbroker who he's you know pawning his last possessions - and she's a horrible person and not only by his estimation she pawns a lot of things fo
r the neighbor who and people really don't like her she's grasping and cruel and deceitful and and resentful and like and she has this nice who's not very bright intellectually impaired whom she basically treats as a slave and beats all the time and so Raskolnikov you know involved in this mess and half starved and a bit delirious and possessed of these strange new nihilistic ideas decides that the best way out of this situation would be just to kill the land let the pawnbroker take her wealth w
hich he all she does is keep it in a chest free the nice so that seems like a good idea so remove one apparently horrible and useless person from the world free his sister from the necessity of this loveless marriage and allow him to go to law school where he can become educated and do some good for the world you know so one of the things that's lovely about Dostoevsky is that he you know when sometimes when one person is arguing against another or when they're having an argument in their head t
hey make their opponent into a straw man which is basically they take their opponent and curricular their perspective and try to make it as weak as possible and and laugh about it and and then they come up with their argument and destroy this straw man and feel that they've obtained victory but it's a very pathetic way of thinking it's not thinking at all what thinking is is when you adopt the opposite position from your supposition and you make that argument as strong as you can possibly make i
t and then you fit your perspective against that that strong iron man not the straw man and you argue it out you battle it out and that's what Dostoyevsky does in his novels I mean he's the people who stand for the antithesis of what dust is dust yes he actually believes are often the strongest smartest and sometimes most admirable people in the book and so he takes great moral courage to do that and you know in risk Olenick of what he wanted to do was set up a character who had every reason to
commit murder every reasonable reason philosophically practically ethically even well so Raskolnikov goes and he kills the old lady with an axe and it doesn't go the way he expects it will because what he finds out is that post murderer Raskolnikov and pre-murder Raskolnikov are not the same people at all they're not even close to the same people he's entered an entirely different universe and Dostoevsky does a lovely job of describing that universe of horror and chaos and and and deception and
and and suffering and terror and all of that and he doesn't even use the money he just buries it in a in an alley as fast as he can and then doesn't want anything to do with it again and anyways the reason I'm telling you all this is potentially to entice you into reading the book because it is an amazing amazing book but also because you might say well his risk is what happened to Raskolnikov true are the stories in that book true and the answer to that is well from the factual perspective clea
rly they're untrue but then if you think of Raskolnikov as the embodiment of a particular type of person who lived at that time and the embodiment of a certain kind of ideology which had swept across Europe and really invaded Russia and which was actually a precursor a philosophical precursor to the Russian Revolution then Raskolnikov is more real than any one person he's like a composite person he's like a person who's irrelevant sees have been eliminated for the purpose of relating something a
bout the structure of the world and so I like to think of those things as sort of meta real meta real they're more real than real you

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@oleghrozman4172

Nietzsche quote: “Dostoevsky, the only psychologist from whom I've anything to learn.”

@fanelskejovic77

“The mystery of human existence lies not in just staying alive, but in finding something to live for.” - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

@miloscpismina2049

In Russian literature, the surname of the characters plays an important role. That is, the surname reveals a trait of a person's character. Raskolnikov translated from Russian means “split”, and if you change two letters in the middle of this word, you get the word “repent”. When pronounced, they are very consonant and very close in meaning to this work.

@turquisestones

Russian is my first language, but I must admit I wasn’t much impressed by “Crime and Punishment” when I read it first while in school. The second time when I returned to this novel was when I read it in Chinese. What’s funny is that I got a lot more interest toward this book while reading it in Chinese. Then I decided to get a copy of it in English and read it in English, which really rekindled my interest toward the book and Dostoyevsky in general. Then I finally went back to read it again in Russian and comprehended it on a totally different level. I guess my story shows that how a book is understood depends very much on your maturity. But it also shows that what matters is not what the first language of the book is, but the ideas and thoughts conveyed in it, which can be done in any language. That’s why Dostoyevsky is the world’s writer, not just Russian writer.

@elizabethbennet4791

1. Walk or ride a bike to your local bookstore. 2. Get a book by Dostoevsky. 3. Grab a coffee or tea, read it there or at some other coffee shop. 4. Meet girl at coffee shop, discuss Dostoevsky. 5. There, you just solved most of you problems. You've lost calories, done cardio, released endorphins, enriched your soul, added caffeine and met a girl.

@ilyaklimov3135

I am lucky enough to have Russian as a first language, so I am able to read Dostoyevsky in original.

@williamkoscielniak820

When I was a hopeless nihilist back in my early 20's, Nietzsche and Dostoevsky were the only human beings that made a lick of sense to me. They spoke my language, and everyone else seemed to be blinded to what I was going through. Without those two towering geniuses I don't believe I'd be alive today.

@MattiMCFC

What I love the most about Crime and Punishment is the way Dostoyevsky describes Raskolnikov's mindset about life and everything. The best book I've ever read

@kristijanhorvat8192

I have read Dostoyevsky in high school and then again when I was in my 30s it just blew my mind. I think you need to grow a little, to experience life before you can trully understand Dostoevsky.

@TheProductiveProcrastinator

for those thinking that he has just told the whole story, he hasn't. The murder is very early on in the book. Most of the book is about what happens after

@LisiyNos

First time I read the Crime and Punishment in scool. I was impressed a lot. After a few years I had completed all Dostoevsky's novels, and then once again. The Idiot and Karamazov brothers I read three or four times. It was a life changing experience. I intentoinally moved to St Petersburg to be close to Dostoevsky. 6 years ago I bought apartments in the house, where the writer lived until his death, and where the museum of Dostoevsky is located. That was my celebration at being so close to this sacred place :) I'm now like a relative of him.

@floatingsara

I've read Crime and Punishment in my teens, now I am in my fourties (audio)reading the Brothers Karamazov. The conversation between Alyosha and Ivan on human cruelty and the existence of God is such a masterpiece that it's haunting me .

@tomggabin5838

I read Crime and Punishment, The Brothers Karamazov, The Adolescent, Memoirs from the House of the Dead, and Notes from Underground, as well as his short stories, in my early twenties. Think I'll reread Crime and Punishment. Hell of a book. It's essentially a psychological and philosophical thriller. It will change you.

@bbcmotd

As a Russian I appreciate this man's passion for out literature

@Pepsiguy

I read crime and punishment in my late 50’s having known nothing of Dostoyevsky. It didn’t take long for me to realize this is the greatest novelist I’ve ever read. An absolute master craftsman. Totally blows away Hemingway, Kerouac, Steinbeck, et all. I would not have understood the depth of this book as a young man.

@user-ri6mw4bq6n

It’s how my husband conquered my heart: he preferred Dostoevsky to Tolstoy. ❤️

@Pater_99

3:16 Svidrigailov listening through the door ...

@sealevelbear

Reading “The Brothers Karamazov” changed my life at sixteen years of age. It was the first book that as I finished the last page, I immediately turned to the first chapter and started reading again ❤️

@alessiosem2238

Dostoyevsky has been banned in an important university in Milan (Bicocca). We are living in a dark time: so much informations and so much ignorance. We are living a second round of middle ages.