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3-18-24 Parks and Recreation Advisory Board Meeting

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PRAB: Works, Recreation Advisory Board Meeting. We have form present. PRAB: We'll begin with approved agenda, entertain a motion to. PRAB: We had our recommendation for additional discussion. PRAB: Okay, is there any discussion on that? Is that okay? To add to the PRAB: Harrison Ford. PRAB: as always. PRAB: will be reaching out to them to talk about the onboarding. We do, as far as providing them information, but you all have. An onboarding process of your own, that PRAB: city council, April fou
rth PRAB: procedural, where they talk about how work well together and efficiently. And then Thursday is where they will talk about their work, plan, and so PRAB: agenda they will have their second reading and the public hearings PRAB: other than that. Just note that the next few months are all budget all the time, as our friend Stacy says, it's the most wonderful time of the year and we're gonna PRAB: and help just facilitate the conversation. And we're always open to your input on how to best
support you in those PRAB: test on the room, and we are getting audio. So maybe we project our voice towards PRAB: like speakers here. PRAB: choose. And so if anyone has joined the zoom from their computer. We need to make sure they're on mute, Rosa, your computer should be on mute because this is both. Does that. PRAB: So? And we're seeing that this one's lighting up right now, so people can hear me right now. But I'm seeing only this one light up, and I'm only seeing it. PRAB: I don't know. PR
AB: That is what I meant. Charlotte is on the issue. Very. Thank you for being our our technology PRAB: with us virtually thank you for helping us test this solution. PRAB: Alright. We've changed microphones. And now we're testing how well you all hear us. PRAB: Can you hear us? Okay. PRAB: alright PRAB: goes me and projects. PRAB: Look at that. Thanks so much. Everybody. Rosa. You may want your computer to the edge of your desk. So it's a little more expensive to the room. PRAB: Alright. PRAB:
Okay. Next up is public participation. PRAB: and this portion of the meeting is for members of public to communicate ideas or concerns to the Board regarding parks and recreation issues for which a public hearing is not scheduled later in the meeting. PRAB: and there are no public hearing items, so all of a comment will be taken out. PRAB: Public is encouraged to comment on the need for parks and recreation programs and facilities as they perceive them. PRAB: All speakers are limited to 3 min. P
RAB: Depending on your nature of your matter, you may or may not receive response from the board after you deliver your comments. PRAB: rest assured the board and staff are always listening, and we appreciate the feedback. PRAB: So I believe we have one person on the line who's PRAB: gonna be providing click on. That is Randy there. PRAB: He sent us a email earlier that was forwarded by Rosa. PRAB: Then have a Pdf. PRAB: Showing a number of signatures on PRAB: on a PRAB: efficient thank you. PRA
B: So, Randy, if you're able to unmute. And again speaking, you'll have 3 min. Randy Bare: Okay. Can you hear us? PRAB: Yes. Randy Bare: Okay, perfect. Hi! My name is Randy Bear. I'd like to thank you for allowing me to speak before the board, though I'm here alone I bring with me the voices and concerns of hundreds and hundreds of people. We wanna request that the Stone Heart Slash Dog Memorial Randy Bare: at Koot Lake is allowed to stay, how and where it is. The heart has been here for over 15
years, and I've heard nothing but total support for it. How much people enjoy it and love the beautiful message it represents. Some are reminded of friends and family who have passed, others associated with the love of the land, a connection to this wonderful place. Wonderful place! We all enjoy some just a simple notion to have more love in our hearts, and for those of us who Randy Bare: walked here with a beloved pet that we've had to say goodbye to. It's a tangible connection to that lost co
mpanion place where we reminisce and feel a closeness with the spirit of our departed friend, place of comfort and healing. I know Regina had Randy Bare: concerns that it didn't fit in the natural setting, or that people may object to it. Not the case. Everyone of the 100, Randy Bare: these are people I've talked to love it and want very much for it to stay. It's also very inconspicuous, as your Mr. Thornton claimed that it was only noticed just this last year. Both Regina and Mr. Thornton have
said that they've never received even one complaint about the heart. Regina was also concerned with maintenance and her crew's ability to do their jobs. Randy Bare: The heart is out of the way and sits in a grass field that isn't maintained. I've maintained the or area for years by myself, and now I've been joined by several others who clean the weeds, pick up dog, poop, and trash not only here, but throughout the entire area. We have a sense of community and want to keep one of our favorite are
as looking pristine, and we will continue to do so. Randy Bare: The heart is a unique concept that so many people respect and appreciate kind of a bolder thing. I can't guess the number of people over the years I've seen taking pictures of toddlers, puppies, whole groups in or around the heart, and I hear comments of how cool they think it is. Kind of a bolder thing. You can see the joy on their faces. I'm asked why they would want it to destroy this beautiful and positive symbol. We all wonder,
with all the negativity and darkness in our world. Randy Bare: the murders and mass shootings, racial and political division, and so on. Why would they want to remove a beacon of light, a beautifully simple stone symbol that represents love and reminds us of departed souls an idea that unites a community rather than dividing it. This is something that has harmed or bothered no one, but just the opposite has provided so much joy and comfort so many people over the years Randy Bare: we ask that y
ou please allow our heart to remain as it has been for such a long time, and consider the positive effect and goodwill resulting from the heart remaining as opposed to the upset, confused, angry, and hurtful people. Randy Bare: If the heart is removed. Thank you very much. PRAB: Thank you for. Your comment. PRAB: Is there anyone else who's signed up for both? The comment wasn't that was official that Randy Barr was officially signed up. We have. And then we have Nancy, J, and PRAB: okay, is it o
kay to hear from these additional community members PRAB: location. PRAB: Then please go ahead and allow next person to speak for 3 notes. Thank you. PRAB: We should be able to use. lynn segal: This is not the middle person. This is Lynn Siegel and lynn segal: Do you not make it so that I have to sign up ahead of time anymore. Did you change your policy. PRAB: We do have sign up pre sign up on our prep. Page. lynn segal: I was under the under. You're the only board that does that except for city
council. And so I was under the impression that if you didn't sign up that way, then you couldn't speak. PRAB: Lynn, you're being allowed to speak, and so your timer will start in 5 s. Are you ready. lynn segal: I'm asking a question. Please answer it. PRAB: If you'd like to use your time that way, we can follow up with you. lynn segal: Yep. PRAB: We'll start your timer. lynn segal: Just answer the question, please. PRAB: So, to my knowledge, we we are intending to change the policy, but to my
knowledge it has not been changed yet. We're trying to make policy the same across all boards, so it'll be simpler for people to sign up to speak. lynn segal: Hallelujah! I've been whining about this for decades. lynn segal: and this is how long it takes for change to happen in Boulder. But you know what from now on you better watch out, because in Denver they're cutting lynn segal: recreation center lynn segal: hours, they're cutting all kinds of public services. lynn segal: And you guys need t
o be at the planning board and at the the boards that really control the economics of the city, because you're at the tail end. lynn segal: and I don't want my wreck hour centers cut. lynn segal: So lynn segal: do something about it. lynn segal: And this is this is big because there is a housing crisis. And there's an economic reality in this city that no one wants to face, no one in city government. lynn segal: and they better lynn segal: because I won't put up with my rec center hours going do
wn, and I never even used the Rec center lynn segal: done. PRAB: Thank you very much. PRAB: And we had another speaker. Rosa, is that right. PRAB: Nancy? Are you here for public participation? Nancy J: You know I'm not. I just was here to listen. So yeah, we didn't. I didn't. lynn segal: You unmuted the wrong person. Nancy J: Oh, shoot! Nancy J: Nick! PRAB: I think. Nancy J: There we go. Nancy J: Yeah, I I had just come on to listen tonight. I hadn't tried to sign up for any time to speak. PRAB:
That's alright. Thank you, Nancy. Nancy J: Thank you. PRAB: You got a few seconds, anyway, didn't you? Nancy J: I will. You know we have 6 generations soon to be 7 generations of our family in Boulder. Nancy J: so. PRAB: Great. Nancy J: We've all seen a lot of changes, and we still love it. And Nancy J: really I'm just here to listen. The the dog memorial thing is near and dear to me, too, though. Nancy J: Just Nancy J: little pebbles. It's basically stones that people have laid in a heart shap
e on the ground. Nancy J: And Nancy J: when I heard that was that was an issue I did wanna tune in just to listen. So thank you. Appreciate you all being here. PRAB: Thank you, Nancy. PRAB: So this is an opportunity for members of the Board to request PRAB: response from staff or make their own comments. PRAB: Yeah. What's can I? What's your response to the PRAB: the pet memorial? Sure. One. We did send the board some information on Friday. I was a little PRAB: saddened to see the way the story
was portrayed yesterday in the daily camera, because I think it left out everything that our staff has done since January, when the memorial was initially removed. But first I just want to say for Mr. Bear, PRAB: I am a pet owner myself. My dog is very precious to me, and if something happened I can understand the interest for memorial, and I agree that Koot Lake is a magical, gorgeous spot. I'd walk there with my dog Saturday morning. And our team has been in contact with several of these commu
nity members since Saturday. We just alerted. Sorry. Since January. We just learned. Mr. Bears interest in involvement, in petition when he submitted that on Thursday and Regina's already spent time talking to him. PRAB: And I I hear all of the interest and reasons for pet memorial, and we're very open to figuring that out. It has to be balanced with PRAB: protecting public plans, which is maybe one of the most important and least fun parts for our job. It's similar to managing encroachments. It
's not fun. But and I'm just gonna point out 2 reasons why that we're actually also covered in the, namely, camera article one is just size. Mr. Bear mentions in the article that this that he believes this was less than a foot when he began it, at whatever point that was. And now it's significantly larger. And so, without some kind of management control. PRAB: Who knows what something like this would become, and it does need to coexist with an actual setting with maintenance practices. PRAB: But
the third is in the article mentioned the social media impact. And this is something that we're seeing on public lands all over the country, that as folks find spots and take pictures and post them. That may become heavily impacted by a visitation that is abnormal or copycat behavior. And so we're not saying no to a pet memorial. But it does need to happen in partnership with the department. We're having those conversations. PRAB: I have a question. PRAB: I know there's some question to how lon
g in place. Some people say 15 years. Maybe there's a little bit less than that. Why, now, did this sound like an issue? And I I just realized. I'm sorry you asked me about the time, and I forgot to get back to you. We don't know. PRAB: Our team does not believe it's been 15 years we. We have a pretty regular presence on that land, if not daily. It's certainly weekly, and we're in and out of the land more so than the public. As we get to the protected areas. It became much more noticeable, and a
gain the growth do the size. In the last several months. In January. The decision was, the other thing I want to say out loud is, is learning we've had through this. Well, yes, we have to protect public lands. PRAB: We know there's a lot of motion involved with this memorial, and and and could have communicated differently, whereas, you know, we we kept the rocks and got them to people. I think when, if we were to be faced with a similar situation, we probably would have done proactive communica
tion, and tried to connect with folks and try to organize something. PRAB: So can you just talk us a little bit about what the process might be for approving PRAB: formal, kind memorial on some teacher time in place. Yeah, that's a good question. There isn't one, because we've never done it before. But I'm thinking of typical processes. We would work with the team similar to how we do the public art process. I think it would mirror that the way is the design compatible with maintenance standards
. What is this long time upkeep there? Who is involved with it? What does that look like? We would. We would follow that process modifying it for this use. PRAB: I'm gonna make a suggestion sure. Let's find a place where there's a need for a page path of some kind, and let's paint the papers and then give people the opportunity to buy stone. PRAB: The other thing I'll just share that has come up is there is interest for a child memorial somewhere in our system for people who lost a child. And so
this is something that we know people use public spaces, and and certainly natural land to memorialize folks, and so I hear the suggestion. And I and I hope I'm not sure Mr. Bears connected with some of these other community members. But I'll follow up with Gina and make sure that PRAB: the other camera article made it seem like we're now in this spot before with PRAB: individuals, and they're bringing sons back. They're being removed or they're being in place. Does that actually happen? PRAB:
I don't know. I'd have to get back to you. Okay. PRAB: that was a quote in this sort, yeah, but yeah, we're moving the phones. They're being with that we're moving them again. PRAB: That seems like a PRAB: not fun, not fun. I think you have some resources. Yeah. PRAB: I'll have to follow up. I don't know PRAB: nice. PRAB: So I have appreciated your comment or the issue of PRAB: social media. Happy way of expanding these kinds of memorials and having them replicated elsewhere. And I could see how
that could be problematic. PRAB: But I also think that there's. PRAB: you know, I work for a large bureaucracy. It's called the Federal Government. PRAB: and there's a tendency for PRAB: fairly bureaucratic reaction to PRAB: rules aren't being followed. PRAB: and PRAB: one example is ghost fight memorials. When a cyclist dies on a road. PRAB: it's it's common for people to put up a white painted bike with the location of their crash. PRAB: decorated with their names and flowers and billitters m
emorial. PRAB: And then there's this type of war that develops between the PRAB: relevant transportation agency and the cycling community. PRAB: or moving the bike. And then a new one gets put up with Morris hours. Back and forth PRAB: he goes on, and PRAB: I've always been on the side of the those bikes. Frankly, having put more than one up myself. PRAB: so I can really appreciate PRAB: the community members desire for an ad hoc PRAB: sort of from the heart community PRAB: developed kind of PRA
B: memorial like this PRAB: as opposed to PRAB: here. Here's a place where you can build memorial and has to meet these specifications, and you know. PRAB: so I guess I'd like to ask for there. To be PRAB: as much leniency as there can be, you know is is this, is this reasonable in the face of this issue with social media and the potential for expanding PRAB: to places where it really wouldn't cause damage. This particular location doesn't seem damaging me. It's right on the edge. It's a very he
avily traveled area. It's right on the edge of a PRAB: you know, a park bench seating area. That's basically maritur. PRAB: And PRAB: you know, seems like, if you're gonna put a place for a memorial like this that is gonna have minimum impact. That's the kind of place you would choose. PRAB: And so I guess I PRAB: I guess I I just would appreciate having a light hand and a light touch on this issue to the extent that it's feasible with your policies. PRAB: Any further comments in the board? PRAB
: Okay, thank you very much. Thanks for the public comment. PRAB: we will move on to the consent agenda. Starting with approval of minutes from the last meeting. I have a motion to approve the minutes PRAB: second PRAB: I just didn't have one comment. That's second. And then what we'll discuss. Okay, second, okay. Great. PRAB: Is there any discussion on events? There is one thing where the PRAB: public comment about the plan for the present view. And it said, like, Is there going to be? What's g
oing to be done in the entrance? So it's not used as an entrance. PRAB: So I just love that using terminology, how are we going to engineer the entrance to connect? Call me on such a way that people don't use it as an instrument. PRAB: so have a motion to approve the agenda and amendment to it. PRAB: on paper approving the agenda as a member PRAB: items. PRAB: Boom. PRAB: okay, then we had the updates from the director, the operations updates and the planning design and construction updates that
were in the packet. PRAB: Are there any comments or questions from the board on those topics? PRAB: Well, as always, I have some. So PRAB: parts of the park PRAB: that is, under the operations update included a ballet, symphony, opera. PRAB: And I wonder if there's an opportunity here for more culturally diverse offerings. These are very eurocentric. So we say. PRAB: for example, Latin American dance for music. PRAB: and I actually have the same questions for Dan's on the bricks which PRAB: see
med, to attract a certain demographic which I fit me within PRAB: and I wonder if there might be an opportunity to PRAB: expand the diversity of offerings so that we can bring in PRAB: people who might appreciate effective Christine. PRAB: think Brian Bury is PRAB: in the meeting, and I think he can speak to arts in the Park, and an exciting press release that went out on Friday. COB: Bryan Beary (he/him/his): I sure can. Can you hear me. PRAB: Yeah. Perfectly. Alright. COB: Bryan Beary (he/him/
his): Hey, everybody Brian. Very community building and partnerships. COB: Bryan Beary (he/him/his): it's a great segue, and and opportunity chuck to help promote that we have the opportunity for community spotlight performances and a press release just went out for those calls for artists to participate in arts in the park. Folks can find that on the city's website for arts in the park. But basically, this is a way for the city to provide a venue for local artists and art professionals and perf
ormers COB: Bryan Beary (he/him/his): from any background, COB: Bryan Beary (he/him/his): and provide a a space that they can participate and perform to the community. So there's an application online. Folks can can join on there. PRAB: I'll just add to that that this it just to be clear it's free, and there's also a stipend available. So the intention tension is that it is becoming excessive. It's ours that may not otherwise have access to it anywhere to this site. And I know we're working with
the Office of arts to get it out to some of those arts groups. PRAB: It sounds like we asked you to ask this question, and Brooks, I know that's run by the downtown border partnership right here. PRAB: Do you have any control over that programming? PRAB: I do not have control over that programming. They certainly are open to our feedback. However, I know that they share your interest, and they've been achieving working towards that in 2 ways. One is they do have a community board where they tak
e input from the community and and equity as a shared goal for the downtown partnership. And as of last summer, I know that several of their performances were not native English speakers. I know that they were performances and other languages. So they are growing that right. PRAB: It's still predominantly groups that you and I both appreciate throwback band. Baby spans is my favorite, but then I know that they are working towards creating that mix. PRAB: So I think I can just toss them a pay. Ou
r board last night talking about the programming supported the work that you're doing PRAB: right. PRAB: And my other comment was, I'm really excited about the community forest Corp PRAB: or December PRAB: getting kids involved in tree care and do planning. And PRAB: I think that's great program. PRAB: And I'm proud to help support it through play. Boulder County. PRAB: I'm good. PRAB: yeah. I also was excited to read about that first quarter as well. Sorry I was excited to read about the Commun
ity Forest Court as well. I did a question. I saw the grocery fountains on the list of projects. PRAB: Yeah, no. Is that first time I feel like we've actually heard of that button wide. Now, is it just a. PRAB: This list is it's funny, because when I saw this, I almost just cut the minor projects because it's such a level of detail. You don't normally see, this is all just asset management, taking care of things that are broken. So there are existing water founts on the grocery wall that are goi
ng to be replaced. Okay? PRAB: And that's the same movie. PRAB: It is, it is exciting. But this is very minor minor. PRAB: Which fountain are we talking about in front of the Civic in front of the courthouse? Okay. PRAB: we may, you may tell me that this is not the best time of the meeting, but I. So we have this list of major projects. PRAB: Some of the items on there we we've been talking. We've talked about all of this PRAB: for some time. Of course, there definitely so much on here that seem
s to be about the PRAB: financial reporting that we were given and we already covered that tonight. PRAB: So and I'm you know, for the comment specifically about how we need to be husbanding our existing resources and facilities instead of thinking about new? So I I hopefully, we can have conversation about what does that mean for these things that are maybe in the planning phases. Yeah. So I'm gonna go PRAB: just back to the future boy. It is on page 2. So in your April touch on the budget. You
will see a cip overview that talks about current projects plan spending. I know. I mean, I know teams here. I don't know if you want to add anything that but the other thing I'll call out on this summary of projects which I I appreciate the way the team has kept this running list is PRAB: not all projects in the planning phase will result in construction. And so, for example, get back to that page. The child friendly cities, initiative that will not result in additional construction or spending
. And the intention is at the end that you action, plan, influence the spending of those money. PRAB: and then the similarly, with the historic District the court system plan will inform asset management. But anyway, that was a long answer to say, yes, we'll be talking about it in depth April, May and June. PRAB: Is there anything you would have about pushing the deal? It's a more calmness. PRAB: Yeah, but I think that's a good one. PRAB: 'kay. PRAB: anything from sunny online. PRAB: Nope, just
listening PRAB: in terms of now. Okay. PRAB: great. Then, we will move on to action items. None matters for discussion information. None PRAB: matters from the department. The court system plan, amendment, budget strategy over. PRAB: Thank you so much. So to talk about the court system plan we have Tina Briggs and Charlotte O'donnell, my planning team to share some PRAB: exciting and unfunded plans. PRAB: We also have our consultant Michael sweets from pros consulting on online. So we'll be doin
g majority of the presentation. But he'll be here to absolutely answer any questions or any details. PRAB: Holmes. PRAB: Alright. So with that, we'll dive in. So PRAB: this presentation mirrors a lot of what the community was shown on March fourth, at our public meetings. This is kind of our final stop PRAB: with you all in terms of the second engagement window for this project. PRAB: And so PRAB: we're gonna start with a little bit of background. Recapping some of what you guys heard in January
. Then we'll move on to the concept diagrams for the 5 sites that we talked with you about in January, where we believe there's potential more courts could be accommodated at those sites. And then next steps for the project. So PRAB: good question, do do you prefer questions? We're gonna go call for you guys properly. PRAB: So so we want to do your part, stop, ask for questions, and then I'll probably, you know, I'll have a couple of spots that I can. This overall graphic is PRAB: showing all th
e pieces in the schedule that take us to a final plan. Across the top. You can see we're really ending this concept phase, and we're working towards funding and programming and operations that you'll see later on this plan. But again tonight we're here to talk about the concept diagrams PRAB: in January. We shared that based on the research and guidance our consultant has completed. We're looking to add 22 dedicated golf courts and 22 dedicated tennis courts PRAB: through 2036, PRAB: and right n
ow it's another way of looking at where this conceptual diagrams that not just in the project, the one project plan, but for each PRAB: for each property. They would go through this process, this 5 phase process. And there's multiple steps within each phase of this process. So we're really more at the beginning of this PRAB: are planning to ribbon cutting. As we say, we're getting towards the construction phase. PRAB: And the concept diagrams that you're gonna see tonight are intended to be high
level ideas for test fits. So it is military, flexible. So what could happen? Not what will happen? PRAB: And they're providing an opportunity for the community, including you all, to provide input on these projects before they advance into that more technical schematic design phase. And as you saw in the last slide for its construction. PRAB: so the 5 concept plans that you'll concept diagrams that you'll see tonight are for the properties where this map has those extra big circles PRAB: meeti
ng there. Either. The goal circles that have potential future additional times applicable awards, and are part of the capital improvement plan for 2025 through 2030. PRAB: So that's the Elmont City Park, East Boulder or Tom Watson. PRAB: And then, if we're unable to achieve the goal of 44 additional ports up those 3 sites. By 2030, we did look at Gerald Stazio fields and put those community part as 2 alternative sites where additional. PRAB: of course, could be added to reach those recommended g
oals if needed. So. PRAB: You'll also notice that part of the reason I show this map is PRAB: to show how these are geographically geographically distributed. So we talked a lot about why we selected these sites out of our full park repertoire. So you may remember January. Happy to rehash any of that, or answer more questions on that but part of what we're looking at is how they're distributed within the city. PRAB: as you can see. Okay, so but I'm gonna hand it over to Tina. It's gonna dive in
with actual properties. Yeah. So I'll give them pause to, and maybe just checking with Michael to see if there's anything you'd like to add to that, and then we'll give that pause for process questions right now. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: No, I'm good. You did. Great, thank you. PRAB: Let's have them any process fashion before we dive into the properties. PRAB: Sorry I don't question. I do want to set. Make a statement before we I as I've especially a couple of times I've been spending more
time with our centers and the opportunity over here. Lots of other people's conversations. PRAB: Yesterday he's dropping out of person. He was having a conversation about this plan. PRAB: There seems to be a misconception. I don't think it's anything you'll have done wrong, but there definitely seems to be a misconception that we are PRAB: like going to build neighborhood facility. PRAB: and that is, as we all know, like very much a potentiality and very much in the future. And I I do worry that
members of the tennis football meeting that way. PRAB: heard a nugget of that and going on to it and assume that it's happened. PRAB: So I just say that. So you're aware and manage your communicates appropriately. I appreciate that. Yeah, so kind of running through as we go through this process and properties. PRAB: What we're looking at from where that could futuristically happen and what that looks like. So thank you. I think one thing to add to is, we also know, what we did in some evaluatio
n is, we know the city of Boulder is never going to be able to provide all of the tennis sports in the community. So there is a part of responsibility the parking information has. PRAB: But there is private industry, partnerships, and other things that normally sort of create the the whole system of of course as well. So just, you know, just to address that. And we know that with every sport that we look at you know we're not providing, you know, every PRAB: just keeping to our master plan. We'r
e focusing on where our services should be. PRAB: So thinking about 22 additional ports and 20 to pick a ball board. So you can imagine that's a PRAB: quite a bit of land. So let's talk about how we can get there. PRAB: Yeah. So this is really just looking at the long plan. You've seen this graphic before. What this really is showing is as we talk about the capital improvement plan that, you know, is annually approved. In conjunction with the capital improvements. Investment strategy, which is t
hat 6 year outlook. PRAB: We know that 25 there is funding for peaceful community part. There's funding for development for 2028, and Tom Watson for 2030. So how we're getting there is looking at funding that is existing for some of those proper renovations already. And utilizing it. For that type of renovation where we can include these, we also know as we follow through, you'll see. Put hills and stasio. What we wanted to do is ensure. We looked at all our parts PRAB: and we were able to okay,
for places that are the right spot for tennis and football, as you can imagine, with license, potentially critical voice. We did evaluate those sites, and we can talk about that criteria again. But we did talk about it in January questions. PRAB: however, so even those are on that that that PRAB: financial plan yet. But there are the places that we would look our goal originally. This plan was to hit that 22 ports by 2036 or 2038 when we did that, the 2038 PRAB: Madison PRAB: population growth.
But then we kind of dial it back to 2036, because it branches our capital from the strategies. PRAB: so then you look at that third one, you'll see itself. And there were just so many limitations to that particular park. That we didn't actually go through it. So we're gonna focus basically tonight, mostly focus on the first 3. And I'll find a little bit more energy east, because it's our first, fastest opportunity that actually make any impact. PRAB: Yeah, so the overall context for this proper
ty is for East Boulder Community park. You'll see. Sixty-third. PRAB: Sorry not not at the top of the mountain in the north. You can see, because East Boulder Recreation Center kind of on the top right? PRAB: And then upon the tennis courts are that we read there. So just to kind of give you overall like, these are existing conditions. And again, these are various near term possibilities. PRAB: So we go on the next slide. PRAB: I wanna look at this one, too. And I wanna highlight, the up to so a
nd then this one does say, up to 16 and up to 8. But this is total on the site that really is only a potential for 3 or 4 remove, most likely 3 for tennis. But then 16 is would be potential up to. PRAB: and what you'll notice. There are some caveats in here in our room, because I think they're kind of important just to touch base, too. Right? Is this is meant to show potential configuration. You know, we know that nothing works out. Configuration. Is best. We also know that we haven't PRAB: real
ly like, finalize the design evaluation. So we have more as we go into design, that development, we have more things to look at. We also know that to do something like this. We are just placing some other activities that we would have to PRAB: replace any other position. PRAB: and hopefully be able to kind of work that into the whole plan overall. PRAB: is it? When do I ask questions today? I'll go through East, and then, if you want to ask, I'll pause. After that, if that's okay. PRAB: So the o
ther option that we're looking at is that holding panic property that you'll you can kind of see in the paint down beside. That's the property that city purchased a few years ago. With the attention of having it for utilities. We park PRAB: usage. We haven't really done the evaluation like first and foremost, on what utilities needs to have to know on that property, and then we'll look at you know. So, for example, what impacts are that the first step is really just looking at those impacts. And
then the second would be just starting to look at PRAB: annexing into the city, as you can see, it's outside the city limits. PRAB: And that then, will basically allow us to have that to see more. That could be 9 24 months. We are looking at that. PRAB: And that would just really be the added for the future opportunities. We're not really looking at that right now, because we don't have the PRAB: below kind of to meet that plan. PRAB: This. So the next slide is just a little bit. PRAB: So it's
just it does say up to 16 up to 8, up to total PRAB: the configuration of which are hipaa ball, which are kind of one of many go with it. Mostly that'll be the next step of schematic design. So that was the part. The process diagram that Charlotte had showed where we're kind of doing some pre planning. We do this conceptual diagram, and then we start getting into the details. This is really just evaluating, like maximizing the property and making sure it's the right place for this time of activi
ty. PRAB: And okay, well, let's go on there. Yeah. PRAB: So you'll see this filter through the presentation, so I'll stop there. We might need to go back to the back if you have questions on that. But I'll pause for 2 things, Mike, if you have anything to add, and then we'll go for questions. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: I'm good. Thank you. Good job. PRAB: I just double thing up. When Charlton Tina presented this to the football test community the tennis quote. PRAB: We're very concerned that
we would have these 3 test scores PRAB: and stop it. PRAB: and I don't think that's actually likely to happen. But, they were very worried that like PRAB: that will be there. PRAB: Their concession that they got created for just 3 day ports. That was their perspective. PRAB: And I share that with the members of the box here here with all this, Adams. PRAB: is that a fair assessment of what they said? I mean, yeah, no, that that is true. And and you know, we talked about to just the continuing, y
ou know, advocacy for it. And how they could potentially put it on the top of our radar. PRAB: so I think this slide answers my question. But there are no dedicated pickleball courts there now, so that would be 16 new right? And then we've got 5 there now. So there will be 3 new. So up to 8, total. PRAB: Okay, PRAB: And PRAB: my other question was related to kind of the general planning, and that is, whether does the total number of new courts we're planning to build PRAB: include PRAB: just wha
t we're thinking. We have the the capital to build over the next 5 to 10 years. Or does it include PRAB: the possibility that we might build somewhere else in the future that we don't currently have funding for. So the only thing looked at the first 3 properties. What we'd like to do is to get as closest to those 22 each within that first 6 years and those first 6. PRAB: Now, because we have to do more investigation, there might be way limitations we're unaware of, or we're not able to PRAB: mov
e an activity into a different area is still support our community. That you should. The variation of the number that can go into East will then affect how many we want to put at, which will then affect how many we put it, Tom Watson, and then you'll see the last 2, if we're not at that number. We're looking at that next 2 places to fill that app. PRAB: Yeah. Yeah. So like 3, we know, we're going in 16 pickle ball, 3 chords, tennis courts at east. PRAB: and then we've got these other sites. Can
will fill the gap to the projected goal. PRAB: The total and number of the ports we intend to build PRAB: correct, and I will just keep saying that to just to make sure right. Sometimes we see that 8. We're like yay, and it's like, you know, there's still some evaluation. Yeah. PRAB: someone hates. PRAB: Go back to one slide, that large of zoom event. PRAB: so the handball courses are to the left, still right, and then the playground is still to the right, middle, 1 500 feet that has to be from
residential area. Is that like, is there kind of a radius like? PRAB: If you very luck to expanding beyond this or this is this is the maximum capacity right here. PRAB: This is looking at the maximum capacity. PRAB: I said, Can you go back? I I use PRAB: that one. So that is the existing capacity of PRAB: the community part that is there. When the city purchased Tobin Pan cost in 2,019, it was clear that it could be used for recreational purposes. After significant utilities, work and analyzati
on and whatever. And so it could be that there is additional potential at this site. We've just got some work to do. First. PRAB: think of all the challenge, though. Yeah. West to the west, on the westernmost PRAB: sports field. PRAB: Here we come. PRAB: That's the great playground. PRAB: There's like a playground that had better. PRAB: of course. Are you talking about this piece of land? I know there's a park to the west of that. PRAB: so that's also used as a funds area PRAB: and that has some
other utilities. PRAB: It's flying. It's a great spot. PRAB: Okay. PRAB: any other questions on the east. PRAB: Our next opportunity. Then we're just gonna talk about is Download City Park. PRAB: So just in the overall contacts, these are the existing conditions. Right now. So what you'll see is at the bottom of the screen. Is Creek path. So at the the very corner there is East Pearl at the very top. Is that one row? PRAB: So this is down on south. So just north of this, or just, you know, past
the top of the screen here, with the park and the Bike park are currently, I think. PRAB: So this does have some facilities. You'll see the more things feel that does have a disco some parking at least on the northwest corner. What do you think we can go to the next one? PRAB: And this is the the same piece of property that it's shown with our 2015 master plan kind of masked underneath it. PRAB: So not only looking at the properties, you know. We looked at what had been planned out. Then, follo
wing that master plan, looking into that and really thinking about in that 2,000 15,000 parks facility in there. And so what could we do to sort of condense some of this very high, active PRAB: recreation pieces? But again, this is a potential configuration. We know, if we did further evaluation. Looking at that evaluation right now. That road that kind of shows through there doesn't go all the way through the Belmont. But we also started thinking a little bit about it. We're not really gonna ha
ve to cross the road to get to there. PRAB: This is looking at the space available, and how many ports could have been in the configuration of that more spouse that seems to be with the play. PRAB: And PRAB: adding some parking. And then this is the where the potential in your facility could go. And when I say in more facility, that could mean a lot of things, we're still doing evaluation of that PRAB: it could be just outdoor. It could be indoor, meaning a bubble. It could be indoor, meaning an
actual building, so that one of our next steps is the evaluation of what that looks like. We're not gonna end up all of the answers in this plan because it is further out. I think we need to do some more engagement power will give us PRAB: basically a decision making framework to look at. So what are we looking at? Cost, risk all those things? It'll give us a really plan of how to get there when you're when you're ready. PRAB: Is this the same North South configuration. We just saw PRAB: users
of the time. Excuse me. PRAB: Okay, yes, we can go whiteboard just a little bit closer up and easier. Yeah, well, let's do this one first is this, one is really dependent on other city projects and some more evaluation. So there are some things that currently have to also make this a reality. But again, because we're looking at 2,030, I you know, we're going to need to start that years in advance of that. So we're ready for that PRAB: when we get to it. So we'll bring on the next slide. PRAB: It
's just building on what that is and what we keep saying up to, because they're not getting existing here, and it is showing up to 12 tennis and up to 12 at the wall. That could be a variation. What that looks like if we get a whole full 16 pick of all ports. PRAB: at least. Do we then start to think about if we want to put 12 additionally immediately. Right? So we have some evaluation, because that conversation will change and probably be able to fit 8 of our pricing, and then we would want to
maximize that so each one will build in the decision. PRAB: So this could be the target questions on that one or Michael. If you have anything to ask. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: I do not, I think the only thing I wanted to make sure of, and when we start to compare the the dedicated tennis court, new number against the dedicated Pickleball Court. New number is that we currently have 0 dedicated pickleball courts in in the court system in boulder. Whereas we do have 20 Mike Svetz - PROS Consul
ting: dedicated pickle ball courts. I'm sorry, Dedic. We do have 20 dedicated tennis courts, and so Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: I think Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: part of the approach and associated with East and then Valmont is to play a little bit of catch up with regards to pickle ball especially in light of some of the new even latest information in terms of participation numbers. So I think it's just important to keep that in mind that Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: a, as you think abou
t these up to numbers and how it impacts that court goal. I think there's some intention behind really trying to play a little bit of catch up with pickle ball, while also recognizing that that we need to make progress on the tennis court goal number as well. PRAB: Thank you. PRAB: I'm just wondering in terms of if, like road changes are part of the scope. Something there cause that PRAB: stretch and fall is totally gnarly to be on the bike. There's no shoulders, there's no it's like you're on t
he highway like 3 times, even though. PRAB: Can't go down the road because it's frustrating, but that's for sure. PRAB: And this is also tying in with what there is but an East border sub community plan. So when we look at the development of this looking at the East Boulder set of community plan and making sure that we together as well together, is going to be really important for us, especially the sites. PRAB: So the currently, the parks and recreation maintenance charges in the space correct.
So where would that go? Well, right now they're all we are also, you know, talking about, you know, East PRAB: canvas and a West campus system for staff. And so some of that when I talked about what could happen is, you know that some of that has to find a new home, or might be development. PRAB: actually have a 2 h meeting tomorrow and long term to kind of to Brace point earlier, like financial strategy wants to meet. There is an intention to have an Eastern City campus. So if this is the West
ern city campus and hub for services and people and services. PRAB: there is a need for modern infrastructure for maintenance. None of our maintenance storage is covered, so we have. We have PRAB: an extent there. This is a whole other topic. But no matter what park operation need to be improved. Modernize and intention is for that to live with the Eastern City campus. PRAB: Thanks. PRAB: Could you develop these ports without doing the full part aren't maybe separate, or they enterprise. PRAB: T
hat's a good question. It's gonna make more sense, though. So this is really going to inform the long term event for this area PRAB: that developing the ballpark is tens of millions of dollars. And so what would make sense is to update the concept plan so that you're not doing something that precludes future aspirations at the site. But then do it in cases. And so again, just to be clear, you should plan the whole park, and then you can develop in places. PRAB: And it's struck me that the locati
on for the court and aquatic center which I think or may not ever happen. PRAB: Are as far away as possible from housing. PRAB: and whatever it might make more sense to place that closer to the. PRAB: to the development. PRAB: I know you want to keep it. Pick a lot of folks right now, but you also want access to be reasonable instead of a mile away PRAB: 500 feet. PRAB: We're gonna go to the northeast corner. PRAB: isn't there? There's a large manufacturer some right there. PRAB: Well, last wint
er on. There's next to villages. There's like lots of lesser rope here. And Mr. Village here. Yeah. So both corners. I think it's more than 500 feet if you want to. PRAB: Where the cursor for roses. Curses! We're not building anytime soon, and just be clear in this slide that up to 12 tennis at balance any part with all the bill right? PRAB: Thank you. PRAB: So whether it's third PRAB: cipv project even a little bit further is Tom Watson. PRAB: So for those you just unfamiliar with it. What you
see in the upper corner is actually to play right? So that is 60. Third, that runs up the left side of that there are currently 10 sports out there. So PRAB: this is probably one of our best opportunities to really energize this space. And so what do we look at, so you can look at the next one when we PRAB: look at what this could potentially he is adding him above adding, 10 is reconfiguring. The playground there is a restaurant. There is not currently functioning, and a little bit of kind of a
shade shelter outside of that PRAB: and as our city grows and we're trying to maximize the use of our spaces. This, this has that a place that could be really activated in this space. So again. It's further out there. But for the large parking lot PRAB: are visible for location needs and property. PRAB: So PRAB: if we wanna go, this again is up to 4 additional tennis courts PRAB: in addition to the 4. Yeah. And then you so just kind of to define which PRAB: when you say up to the reason I'm kin
d of reading that in there is when we do the public meeting we had up to 8, and then I'm trying to define about that nothing premium. But I just wanna make sure it's clear. And it didn't. PRAB: So looking at, this is basically what we're looking at is trying to get to that 22 dedicated tennis and 22 dedicated pickable in a combination of one of these in these parks, and again moving into that schematic design east. PRAB: We'll kind of, you know, just tailor them into what we're what is that? Eac
h park in particular? PRAB: And then what we know is, if we can't reach that goal PRAB: is PRAB: and this is again by 2030, and our plan is intended to be through that 2036. You have the 2 following parts. PRAB: so says, up to 22 new tennis and 20 pickle ball, and I don't see the max capacity each. So the 22, like the lower end of that. So our goal is 22 ports of each by 2,036, PRAB: and you'll see this only goes to 2030. So what we're trying to do is get there as quickly as we can. PRAB: becaus
e we know there's an impact. So this is our plan. Till 2,030. It's not going to get us quite to the 22. We're going to be really close. If we can maximize them. PRAB: It could still cascade right? Like the also the capacity of like the balls from so fast. Right? We know our goal is 22. It's gonna be kind of our our guiding light in the short term but then this also is that consideration of what happens. PRAB: So you know, if that property were available to be developed and expanded with, you kno
w, as a kind of hard kind of piece folder. It says, course, that we wouldn't be able to put there with, you know. Set some of what this looks like. PRAB: have we done an analysis of like? How often Tom Watson's current ports are used like, is that a heavily used court system? So we actually just PRAB: key availability. And let's work ourselves together. PRAB: Let's make another. PRAB: Okay, I'm just trying like, so here's a question we all know we've heard a lot about how quickly this is all gro
wing PRAB: is another 4 years going to give us meaningful look into whether that growth is sustained or it's not much out at some point, or will we have that 4 years? PRAB: Yeah, yeah, Mike, are you on? Would you be able to answer that. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: I'm I'm sorry. Was that a question? I you guys, are in and out a little bit sorry. PRAB: Yeah. So my question was, we've heard a lot about how rapidly kick the wall is growing in participation. And I I asked PRAB: in the next 4 years
, before we get to some of the latter phases of this plan, will we have a sense of whether that growth will be sustained, or will that not be a plan for us to know. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: That is an absolutely great question, and I'll put. I'll give you some context to this. So at the time that we did this level of service study. We were based on full 2022 participation, national and then, of course, drilled that down to to local participation. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: I'll put this
in perspective for you. National as of the end of 2,022 Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: pickle ball participation was 8.9 million people. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: It has grown by another Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: 5 million people participating in pickleball just in the last year. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: And it is now the sixth most participated sport in the country right behind. Soccer Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: so I I think the only way that pickle ball slows down is, if there a
re no courts in the system or in people's systems in order for it to to continue to grow. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: It is a sport that is increasingly getting younger and is appealing to quite honestly, almost all age segments. So Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: I think the point in in Tina. If you wanted to scoot forward one Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: to the this impact here. When we said that our pickleball goal was 22, and we're showing here a pickleball goal of potentially up to 36. If
I'm doing my math correctly. That's maybe not necessarily out of the realm of demand. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: Or the kind of level of service. So it's hard to predict. I don't know that anybody in the parks and recreation world over the last 2 or 3 decades has experienced a singular sport or singular activity. That has grown so substantially and so quickly. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: That it to the point where it is no longer can be considered to be a fad to the point that it's becoming
professionalized. And I think we all know what happens when things in the United States become professionalized and monetized. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: It becomes capitalized on. And you can start to see that potential start to trickle down to Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: you know, even potentially, it becoming quote unquote, a high school sport no differently than tennis is. So I think the growth here is substantial. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: maybe the another way to say it is. Could
you imagine Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: the almost the exact number of people participating in soccer in the country. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: As we currently have in Pickle ball, they're right neck and neck and having no soccer fields. Mike Svetz - PROS Consulting: That is basically what boulder is up against right now, with having no dedicated pickleball courts. PRAB: Thanks, Mike. Yeah, I I would add to that, though, that again would pick a ball when we won't be the 100 supplier espec
ially people. We have seen it be monetized and have seen private development. You guys maybe notice already. Some private developments coming in, especially in the indoor space, but also in having outdoor space next to restaurants and bars. So PRAB: we still believe 22 is the right goal for now. But PRAB: yeah, appreciate that context. PRAB: Yeah, the other context to that, too, is like as we evaluate this through years. There's budget implications. And you know what was what we're prioritizing
and funding. Once you have that PRAB: it's fine. PRAB: I answered my question, but I was the one asking about the hybrid hybrid course that nobody seems really happy with. But PRAB: and we'll plan PRAB: sense of it not once I get everybody but what would, if you know, just going back to the East if if 16 people ports are building by 2025, would that have any applications for those hybrid ports? PRAB: No, we can but what we will do is what we're going to do is we're going to maintain those multi
sports until we actually have some dedicated course. And we're capable and some additional 10 sports. And we're also really making several kind of sports to make them play for it at a higher value level. PRAB: Then I think it's time to spend evaluating that what we don't know is our is people going to grow? Enough that all the sports, the multi sport, and the dedicate are going to be full, or are they all gonna migrate? And then we watch that reservation usage and that drops dramatically rather
than PRAB: and having some indication on what we need to do with those ports in Georgia. So PRAB: question PRAB: other questions on Tom Watson or the next 2, PRAB: open this. PRAB: Okay. PRAB: this is a spasio part. So it is. PRAB: is mostly known as as evolved right now. And so what you're seeing on the screen right here, boundaries across the top, and these are actually the northernmost set of PRAB: feel something like the next time. PRAB: This shows a a view kind of bigger property, with the
full ball field, clover, ball fields at the bottom and then create the top, and it shows a potential location for additional and this should say times for a couple of cards. It does just say, time based on this one just really has some PRAB: one last to consider, and then also to punish that or that clover of that ball group who? Might be priority for this case we would consider parking so there's lots of considerations as we move into some design but they physically work that they're in are far
enough away from houses. PRAB: And then that's me. PRAB: Yeah. So just again, it's up to 6 tennis. PRAB: There is some topography there about how we get around those. And, for example, the bathroom PRAB: quite a ways away. PRAB: So not as ideal. But we're moving into that sort of we need to go. PRAB: So this is another one of our community parks. You'll see. A lot of these are in our bigger parks, community parks and city parks. Because they do impact some of the infrastructure that's needed. P
RAB: So the original book, I should go with that PRAB: this basically is located. What you see is Broadway is just about to PRAB: the right side of that picture, and you would take Cherry Avenue in on the bottom, and this is where you you promise. So up on the top, as a dog. PRAB: you see the bathrooms and shelters. PRAB: So this original master plan. We've had 10 sports, including it. PRAB: But on us fine. We know that we cannot put the mobile phones here because they are too close to that pres
ent PRAB: development. PRAB: What this would do is potentially PRAB: nice dog park in a in a different location, and we configure this could be tennis poison for expansion. PRAB: and I will PRAB: pause there for any questions on any of those joints. PRAB: so I'm sure you're just playing with me here by showing an expanded parking lot of 115 spaces PRAB: or a tennis courts that can hold PRAB: 4 people each port. We don't all drive separately there, anyway. PRAB: that is true. So we looked at the
multiple configurations when you provisioned, so we wouldn't have to expand that far. That would be the maximum PRAB: if we were to, you know, displace the part further, there actually could potentially be a second set of ports there. But what we were looking at sort of just the property. What made the most sense. PRAB: This is where I want to make another note, though. So this is. This park is one that I had to go into the deep PRAB: dives of park history. But the concept plan for this communit
y are similar to what we just looked at these for every inches develop. That is what will happen at this park over time, and so similar to Belmont. What would make the most sense is that you do update that concept plan. The last one is from 2,002. But there's ball fields and tennis courts, and we have increasing need for active recreation sites. So that's part of the long term planning. We're going to start hearing us talk about, around, what amendments do we need, and how many, and where PRAB:
and so part of it would be, what is the level of parking when the full park is developed? Because there's a significant amount of a bridge that isn't developed. So I would expect at that time not just about tennis. It's other amenities to come. PRAB: yeah, and not just to another chat box. We also see the youth fields that are down here at the south, at this south edge of this part, when those are full of flag, football, or soccer, we do see that working PRAB: capacity as one of the number one c
omplaints from numbers. So yeah. PRAB: even with the park not being solved. PRAB: And I'll handle that call something PRAB: other content questions on this phone properly. PRAB: so to bring us back to the present moment. In 2024 we are moving forward with the asset management. The asset maintenance on around the ridge and Columbine. Those are 2 of our worst performing text courts in the city right now. So replacing those with post tension concrete that will improve the playability and safety and
PRAB: make them playable for longer at a lower cost to us PRAB: as well as this year. Beginning that technical design work, schematic design for East Boulder Community Park. So, taking that loose concept diagram you saw tonight and turning into something that PRAB: can be acted upon on the site PRAB: for this plan. For the court system plan. Our next steps are to find the concept diagrams based on any comments that you all have today as well as any comments we received from the public, either o
nline or at that public meeting. Then, as I mentioned, beginning, we'll be using looking at programming operations and financial PRAB: piece to this plan before we come back to you later, in just a couple of months. With with a final plan. PRAB: the final draft of the plan PRAB: certain. PRAB: So that's that's all from us. My other questions overall or on the concepts. PRAB: This is great. PRAB: I'm impressed with how quickly this is all PRAB: personal processes are making sure. PRAB: Yeah. So u
sing some vertical on your partner. Thanks for taking community. Input seriously. PRAB: we should clarify and all be a separate process like that in future. PRAB: Yeah. So we looked at other there were some other facilities that we looked at. So there was evaluation of other handball platform, tennis, basketball courts, and that sort of thing. And we looked at users and growth. PRAB: There are a couple of things that we've got so just to simplify it because of the things that were happening in t
he community and not having any kind of ports. So we're certainly not forgetting about those. So what we do know is the 2 that you see he's older and Tom Watson are both on our Cfo guide, and what that looks like PRAB: you know whether that means, you know, renovation for village. PRAB: That'd be something to be talking to you about listening into those questions. PRAB: So I'm sorry for Chuck and Jason, but I just have to add that in the next 2 years you're gonna hear a lot about a long term str
ategy around recreation, use the facilities by recreation. I don't mean parks and recreation in the activity that happens on park land and in our facilities, and really looking at it in a long term. 50 Year Plan. So what it looks like, it's work. PRAB: Our last really robust recreation needs assessment is from 2,002. So we'll be updating that and we've just finally signed a contract. It's called Placer AI. It's incredible. So right now, park use data is observational. And there's there's PRAB: t
here's research based methodology. But this data that we're going to have to place a big AI about what is used and where people come from and where they're going is going to be one of the most incredible investments in 15 min neighborhoods, and some of the conversation last week around Soccer, and where people coming from or where they're going, like. PRAB: you're all gonna be doing all those data. It's very exciting. PRAB: I might not be as excited as I am, but it's you're hearing a lot in the
next couple of years. PRAB: So before I move on, I like to check in with Sunny that make sure she doesn't have any questions or comments. Sunny van der Star: Not at this time. Thanks, Jack. PRAB: Thanks, kind of out of sight, out of mind, so speak up. If you have anything to say, please. Sunny van der Star: Do. PRAB: Right? PRAB: Okay, thank you. Great. PRAB: Next up is the budget Strategy roadmap. PRAB: We and our senior business services manager Jackson talks about our summer swap updates in t
here. Codes. We're doing little names for all the front desk staff PRAB: that says how long they work with the department. I mean, this year is what we were displayed here earlier. So we're very excited about that. But I just wanted to say. PRAB: that's out there. And then you have ordered 5, 12, or summer employees, beautiful bucket pads, and in facts. PRAB: that's not as far as all of our center would look great. Are you guys as well. Yes, we are. PRAB: We're online. You have players. We've at
tended Job fairs. We're headed October or next week, the week after. So what we find typically is word of mouth. Referrals are aspect. We do have a hundred dollars enrolled on us this year. So if you have someone that you refer out in July. PRAB: To really do that as an incentive to bring phones to work with you. PRAB: We think what we've done with that advertising is probably our best mechanism. PRAB: Have also attended some for another event. We have staff that are reaching out with the wiseig
ht programming of there, so PRAB: I'll follow up on all this. Thank you. PRAB: But this is where the baseline PRAB: bye bye. PRAB: No, there's not PRAB: little PRAB: outreach to the other. PRAB: Thank you PRAB: alright. So thank you for letting me do a quick introduction there. We're going to go over the budget development. PRAB: I do have the 2 of you. This is your last meeting on Cloud, so our intention is to keep this very high level. We will have a bigger ask PRAB: you all know PRAB: possibl
e. But yeah. PRAB: and then, like, that's all. It's PRAB: school. Hmm, that's why it's really helpful. PRAB: Alright. So we will keep this very high level tonight. You have 3 more touches in April, May, June. But this is kind of a better understanding of what our current state is, and the guidance we're getting staff written into development. So I feel like 69 are here with you half year every year. And this is the older budget as a marathon on print. So it's scary that we're in mid-march. PRAB:
But we're going to type in this presentation. Please interact if you have questions. PRAB: And we're about a month into developing 2,025. So as you can see up on the slide our discussions and focus PRAB: first around the department's funding sources. I did hand out a fund chart to everyone in the amount of meetings, so to speak, is handy. We will reference this sunny for you online. The fund chart was actually part of the crab packet as well. So I don't know you can access that, but it just may
be helpful to look at that. PRAB: Because our department benefits from a diverse funding streams. Including dedicated taxes, sales and property tax user fees, the general fund support and other fund support. It's just really helpful to PRAB: understand various funding sources, not only for the financial review we're going to do tonight, but in future months, but also for the 2025 budget development. PRAB: So, Staff, some mentioned. If you do have questions, please ask them. Do you want this to
be engaging and interactive. We have scheduled multiple breaks throughout the presentation. As we go through this, we'll be looking at the 2025 by strategy and analysis, and we'll also be looking at the Policy Review PRAB: alright. So we're going to start with a timeline. Looking at our timeline. The Fab's involvement is outlined on the top part of the slide. With staff responsibilities kind of earmarked and ring on the bottom. PRAB: So tonight we do start the first touch with that financial rev
iew strategy and also reviewing the fee policy and schedule with the crab. It was a lot of our work that we did in 2024 with you all. And we do have to not be plans for that for 2025. PRAB: Looking towards April, we will be presenting some updates recommended updates to the policy, and that will also be a first touch for the Cip projects as we move into May, we will be bringing back to the crappy 2025 budget Review. You will have your second touch with the Cip for 2025 to 2020, 30, and then at t
hat meeting we will be asking for perhaps approval PRAB: for some changes to the fee policy and schedule. In June we will return and just give you a holistic budget review of what is being submitted for 2025 also, at this meeting, will hopefully be approving the permanent Park and Recreation Fund cip, just as a reminder that does have formal approval for all capital expenditures from the permanent Park and migration funds. PRAB: And then on the bottom, just outlines what the Department will be f
ocusing to make sure that we are moving through the process, doing our analysis and modeling and then also preparing for meetings with you all. PRAB: Some slide PRAB: alright. So we are going to go over an overview of the Department's 5 main funds and if you want to refer to your fund chart. We will be just be moving to right on this. No particular order. PRAB: Start with the general fund, which is our governmental fund, and that really helps fund the operations and maintenance, and then also ad
ministrative support services for the department. The general fund is supported by these sales, property, and other taxes. It is a fund that is managed by our finance department here at the city, and it's allocated citywide PRAB: for our department. We use this to fund forestry urban parks, our department administration in our urban Rangers program for 2024 approved. We do have 6 24 million dollars. And that is in that first column there, and kind of see how much each area does have on your pie.
Charge PRAB: the next fund to take a look at is our Lottery Fund, which is a special revenue fund. This is a State Conservation trust fund monies allocated to the local government. The city folder does receive lottery fund money, and it is distributed out to the city, to our department, also to public works, and to Ls and P. PRAB: For our department. It's designated to produce recreation and open space site maintenance and capital improvements. PRAB: For 2024 approved in our budget. And I do wa
nna make mention that historically, past several years the Department has had about $428,000 consistently. And so the city for 2024 budget development based on our capital projects that we have did increase our funding significant positive. And a great win PRAB: guys a question about the lottery fund. So it says that it's dedicated to parks rec in open space. PRAB: you know, read the rest. But who determines that the city by ordinance or by policy? Or do we determine that, or is it determined by
the lottery people? PRAB: So funding is actually allocated to the same fees on mildly funds and folder? Does receive a certain fortune of what the State collects. PRAB: It's a great question on how much is allocated to our department. PRAB: and it's actually has fluctuated. So PRAB: traditionally, we didn't receive a certain percentage of funding split between the 3 departments last year because of our capital projects, we were awarded more funding. So it's not but is the is the manner in which
we use it set instead, like it seems like there's a we can only use it in a certain way, and I'm wondering PRAB: who determines, that is, do we determine it as a department? Or is the city determined that's coming from the State has certain allocations for it's work, improvement, maintenance of we do not. Okay. And that's from the state. PRAB: So if if we wanted to change that rule or something, we'd have to go to the State and do that. Okay. PRAB: under the users PRAB: we call in improvements
of park development regulation opportunities. So examples of those use the stuff of your playground was purchased using auto refunds. So we are building assets. PRAB: And how does this vary annually? I don't. I'm I'm familiar with a lot of sales. Do they go up and down with the economy? How do they? How do you button? PRAB: What we're seeing is over the last 4 years. We technically, we see this on up significantly, differently. If you think about it, that's when we want price water tickets doubl
ed. PRAB: There have been larger backpots that it tends to follow that PRAB: audience. PRAB: and then it is divided out across the entire state based on population. So what's population is PRAB: relatively large that we get a fair share portion for. PRAB: but it's not highly volatile. PRAB: I think it has grown every member PRAB: I wanna add something to. And I'm Elliot. I know it wasn't your question how it's allocated, but I do. I want to celebrate this, because prior to last year it was just
evenly split between open space utilities and parts and recreation. PRAB: And our team said, Can we look at that? And I, my interpretation wasn't. It wasn't necessarily based on our capital is based on the incredible work our budget team does and our team across the departments to show our asset management needs and the way we're managing the budget, and that there were unmet needs. And so the integrator allocation is going. PRAB: That's why you saw the incredible bread over here, because I'm re
ally proud of that work that our team did in the decision. PRAB: recognizing both utilities, has its enterprise funds to pay. PRAB: Well done. PRAB: I mean PRAB: moving on to our next fund. That is going to be the point to fund, which is a special revenue fund from PRAB: yeah. Also. Can you move your screen sharing window there. The zoom thing that's happening PRAB: changes PRAB: present PRAB: special revenue fund. It is funded by voter approved sales tax funds. PRAB: For our departments. We do
use this for acquiring development, operating, maintaining parks and recreation facilities. So there is a little bit more flexibility with this fund, and it's uses that we can use it for operations and maintenance, and then also capital PRAB: and just help fund daily operations reaching maintenance and also capital improvement PRAB: program. So just a little graph. Just love to share this for every retail sales, dollar collected and motor. You know the department does receive a recent. PRAB: Why
is it called 20.20% PRAB: sales ties from them. PRAB: It is point 2 5 of a cents on every dollar sales tax. You pay. Okay? So for every dollar, we get point 0 2, PRAB: no point 0 0 2 8 5, PRAB: this PRAB: point 0 one would be 1%. We get point 0 0 2 5. PRAB: And did the people of Boulder approve that, or is PRAB: it's Barbara and Boulder? Yes, and they did extend it on this first approved. PRAB: and 1995, our 20 year period voters did privilege and such. PRAB: I'm 35 in the last 6 weeks. PRAB: I
t's not a county thing. It's a city of boulder thing. So how come the county gets? PRAB: So for every retail sales tax in folder that's collected, the city gets 44 cents PRAB: out of that 44 cents of the sales tax like, if I go through the department gets the 3 cents. PRAB: Oh, yeah, the right hand slide is showing PRAB: anywhere in the city builder that you need to purchase. That's how it gets allocated. PRAB: But the 12.2 5 is just a dedicated 4 person. PRAB: and you can see that open space ge
ts 10 cents. Yeah. PRAB: on every dollar sales tax. Which is why has provided just to show that anytime you're purchasing it, will there? A good majority of it is going to the city. But it is also going to the state. Yeah, so this is this on the right side. This is a conglomerate of like the sales tax, not necessarily tied directly. PRAB: Kind of sentiment. PRAB: Why don't they just like double it. PRAB: and then solve your pleasure PRAB: double? That would be a PRAB: in total sales tax is limit
ed by the State, though right candid, some PRAB: correct. PRAB: We're close to that. PRAB: We have some room. PRAB: and then there's also property block. We'll keep going there we have to be, except ourselves from that. PRAB: But one thing I'll know when you talk about funding. This is sales taxes seen as the most regressive right. It applies equally to everyone and impacts those lower income taxes seen as a more equitable way to distribute expenses and lower PRAB: very impressive. PRAB: But but
I have not seen the analysis on that with the impacts of lottery funds, and how they're collected and distributed would be an interesting thing to PRAB: everything on our contract before we advance for 2024 PRAB: Use sources, which is on the top. We're presented 11.4 8 million, and we do have number 14 for expenditures. PRAB: Alright. The next fund to review is the Recreation Activity Fund, which is a special revenue quasi enterprise fund PRAB: during budget development to do. Here's talking an
d spending a lot of time developing. We budget for the lab for the Recreation Activity Fund, which is really about a third of the department's total budget. We just find a lot of time with the Recreation Activity Fund, because it does operate like the business with revenue and expensive meeting to be in ratio. We do PRAB: have this being funded by user fees and participation fees, grants, and donations, and then we also do receive general fund subsidy to offset that community benefit programming
uses for the department and operates recreation on the reservoir golf course. All of our services and programs PRAB: for 2024. We do have a budget for revenue coming in just under 15 million, and we do have expenses budgeted at 14.7 million PRAB: more of this fund. PRAB: so as opposed to the and I'm just. This is like me, just speaking, allowed to remember what these things mean. The general fund is like us saying, the city. PRAB: Please give us an allocation that we deserve as a city departmen
t. For the needs we have. This is based on user fees, mostly PRAB: correct. And PRAB: this is user participation fees, grants and donations primarily for funding for this fund. We do save about 1.6 million from the general fund as a subsidy to offset community benefit programming within that fund scholarship PRAB: benefit us from the general fund. We get. So they give us cash for general fund, and then they also give us such an amount. Subsidy. Yes, so we will have the 6.4 million in the General
fund. PRAB: So why not just increase the PRAB: why doesn't the city just give us 1.6 million more in general funds PRAB: library service? But sorry not library. Please fire like there's just we do ask for funding at the moment. PRAB: I think they want to specifically give it to the equity programs for the recreation. It's transport tied directly back to H based discounts which we are providing for access to the right centers. PRAB: Our financial Aid Program scholarships. Anything with certain p
eople, disabilities, manufacturer fund wi-fi programming. All of that comes out of the general concept to be that tying that directly to the fund where the revenues are received. And those expenses are made makes a lot of sense to be able to track it. PRAB: So we had about 85% cost recovery, excluding PRAB: but subsidy. Just because PRAB: of how the company comes in goes out. Okay, I think, because we have earned revenue within the wrap, our preference would be to maintain the subsidy into the r
aft rather than become part of the general fund. Any dollar that we are anything goes back to the general fund and PRAB: combined with something else. I see. Okay, that makes more sense. This is a price fund, so is supposed to be more of a not profit driver, but a break even fund that every year we are looking for the breaking them. Also, providing this community benefit PRAB: in those community benefit programs to decide PRAB: under that region, I believe too PRAB: great. Thanks. PRAB: Okay. Ne
xt slide is permanent work and Recreation Fund is a capital project fund which is funded by property and development excise taxes. This is the fund that the families have approval of for PRAB: we use this for this. It is dedicated for acquiring land, renovating or improving existing parts and recreation facilities, and it does not run the daily operation. For 2024 the bulk revenue coming in and expenses going out. 5 million. PRAB: And once again this graphic on the right shows the citywide prope
rty tax collection PRAB: of that and gets removed. I'm sorry. One sec. PRAB: Out of every dollar monthly tax page. PRAB: So permanent park and Rec fund is property tax base. PRAB: the point to 5 cent sales tax sales tax based PRAB: separation, activity from mainly users being participating in space. PRAB: I do need this reminder every year sources of funding we have here every year. There's 3 other funds that we get for one time projects PRAB: Cip related. So these are the 5 that are actually go
ing to prepare for you each year. There's another part of money that is project specific that we'll talk about on the next slide. PRAB: Yeah, just I mean, that's not related to. PRAB: I really care that it's shocking that it's only 14% that probably Texas goes to services and PRAB: like there should be a receipt PRAB: like, if you're people have a sense of that. And teachers think like, Oh, look how much a pain, because PRAB: we're not seeing any results. And then I think most people need to und
erstand that we're probably PRAB: it's 7 years PRAB: you go. It was for some sound. PRAB: Well, I mean, even, that's a low like amount we've got. PRAB: That's a good point. Yeah. PRAB: you have a quick question about your chart. The headline here says the sources are 39 million, and the uses which I presume you mean expenses at 44.7 million. PRAB: Can I add up your PRAB: high charge here? I have a deficit of 2.5 million in the PRAB: sales tax on PRAB: so you have some capital PRAB: that's not in
the 5 months. So altogether with that capital it does come up to the 44.7 million. That does not include. However, on this charge. With your Zoom graphs, there is additional money from the Ccrs community culture, safety and buildings tax another 4.5 million that we are receiving on the 2024. Most of the 24 million PRAB: is slotted for the joint facilities project PRAB: so because we've had access already budgeted and savings from staffing and delay safety projects. That's why we're spending per
minute. PRAB: We anticipate because of property tax evaluations coming up that we're gonna have PRAB: you know, a lot more money in this particular pot PRAB: that sales tax is flattening for 2024. So we've Updated it the 11.3 million for that. PRAB: and then also they could do the analysis with the property tax revenue. Coming in at least for 2024. So they'll do the same process for 2025 by the development with them. And really Central Finance Office will give us those projections out. Not only
for the next year, but then they will project out into the outliers. PRAB: So they do see sales tax flattening, not substantially PRAB: in terms of the sales tax being a regressive tax. I was wondering if there's any about what percentage of sales tax revenues are PRAB: from those verses. PRAB: Choices come for them. PRAB: I'm not aware it's broken down individually. What we can see is written from sale was so obviously it actually contributes about 23 revenue to the sales tax. So anytime you'r
e purchasing on Amazon order from best buy elsewhere. All of that comes in PRAB: we can double check with our colleagues and simple budget to see if there's any better idea. PRAB: and it varies by town cause, I do know, you know. So the revenue reports that central Finance publishes every month we get we? We do get reports by districts. So the downtown district. PRAB: I would suspect it has a higher PRAB: proportion of nonresidents than North Boulder or South boulder, but across the city I've no
t seen analysis PRAB: of of the origin of sales tax dollars other than in the tour series downtown. PRAB: That is, yeah. Like one, too. PRAB: Stay tuned. PRAB: and I'll get back to your question about property tax that they wanted to see is doing what they say is their pending legislation at the state level as far as what that does to sales tax the projections use was about an 18 to 20 greater than sales tax. There's a prior assessment here. I think everyone's property tax varies but PRAB: and t
hat was conservative in the future, due to your kind of legislation not wanting to come back and call my back in the future. Yep. PRAB: thanks. PRAB: Is that reflected in this number here, like this? 4.6. Correct. That's the conservative number. Okay, but that could end up being a little higher, it could be higher next year. Okay? But then we see sales tax being flat. So like it'll be 11.5 next year the year after, based on a conservative estimate. PRAB: Okay, yeah. PRAB: what's the most like fu
ngible? What's the source of money that typically there has the most variance year to year. PRAB: like what's the most stable to the most unstable. PRAB: It's honestly changed every year, I would say PRAB: our portion of the general fund is remaining relatively constant here every year as long as it subsidies. You have. PRAB: I think otherwise. There's huge variation based on the company. PRAB: 2018, we have a 10% reduction in sales. Use tax PRAB: that number equal to more pandemic PRAB: propert
y tax. We probably saw exportion and growth. PRAB: Just with property prices over the last few years. So PRAB: most agencies would say that sales and use tax is a little bit more consistent year over year. Because people need to buy another services, the food on table, etc. PRAB: But PRAB: it really changes every budget cycle. PRAB: Hmm. PRAB: I think, to your point as well. The city doesn't need to be reserved, so almost every fund has a 20 reserve, and that's intended to, whether through fluct
uations and revenue. PRAB: If there was a flood we would have into that for recovery efforts. So there is the reserve on top of this, that is, that sitting there for us. PRAB: I was just gonna say that for parks and recreation, the benefit is this diversity of funding sources that we have property tax that we have sales tax, that we have user fees. PRAB: And and in most years that that gives us some strength. Now, if you take me for like 2020, the raft, because it's, you know, 85% source by user
fees which really impacted our ability to provide real community benefit program because there wasn't funding that whereas other parts and recreation agencies that have a stronger, larger, more stable tax PRAB: property tax like. So, for example, parks and recreation districts that were funded by property tax didn't have to reduce services to the level that we did PRAB: But to Jackson's Point, around sales tax, you know, both the general fund and the point to 5 or sales tax. So together that th
at puts that is a risky situation for us, because anytime sales tax is down, it impacts it. A large portion roughly PRAB: in Boulder County property taxes seen as pretty stable. PRAB: One thing I thought I wanted to read through that report. In that center package is the PRAB: general trend. Downward use of our programming. PRAB: Have. Has that been reflected in the after the last 5, 6 years? PRAB: I think you're referencing the dollar queue? The interesting thing about that is provided to the c
onsultants. They looked at 2,016 through 2021 actuals where you think about it. 2021. We're pretty bad years for us. They didn't back it out. It was like 6 years online over that entire period. What we're seeing is we've just now hit 2019 presentation levels across the board. PRAB: But I wouldn't say we are on the screen. But we basically was to pre pandemic levels with 300 participants visitations per hour services. PRAB: What about up to 2019 is that PRAB: pretty stable wasn't turned off. It r
eally varies, depending on the program area based on what the desired interest is. And it's also part of your established comparison. PRAB: Golf is seen tremendous growth in the past 4 years the golf members are probably 60 more than they were. Pre pandemic PRAB: usage is up. Our visitation of the recreation centers are actually down in terms of total volume over the course of the year, but in terms of visitors per hour we are very stable. 2, 22, PRAB: and those numbers that are within relativel
y consistent. So does the hourly shorten. PRAB: Yes, right? PRAB: Summer camps. I think the aging population of Boulder as well as just. Here's competition. That's something that we would love to offer more. But there's a baseline that we can release staff based on our number staff replication where we can license childcare. PRAB: Our gymnastics program for new director homes has grown substantially hitting over a million dollars slash fair revenue. PRAB: So PRAB: okay? And then, just to Jackson
Point. In the moment you know the recreation centers, they grow about 22% over 2022 actual. So in 2023, which is great to see that recovery? Because PRAB: but it's been something we've been watching so closely. PRAB: we kind of PRAB: any other questions. PRAB: so we're just going to do a really high level of of our funds by fund that everyone is familiar with those 5 funds. I will say that the caveat, that finance is still closing out the year. So PRAB: you know, there may be 2, 3% change in th
ese numbers as it gets out. But in looking at this on our stacked columns. We will have refunds the 2019 PRAB: oh, oh, sorry! Sorry! Sorry! Sorry. I think you can totally hide that thing if you want to. PRAB: I applaud a meeting. I'm sorry I pulled them up. PRAB: Is that PRAB: So in looking at this, this does show the departments. Uses the funds are expenditures. From 2019, through the 2024 approved budget 2019 through 2022. Our actual view of the 2023 budget 2023 actuals as it stands. As of rig
ht now and then. 2024 approved Budget. As we look across the fund you'll see where the general fund has been pretty stable from 2019 PRAB: through basically 2023. Spend for the fluctuation there. Next, in that light green, we do have the point to sales tax fund. This is where you will see fluctuation in spending and that's really due to that capital expenditure stuff. And he just explains to you. PRAB: We also be seeing increase in 2023 as services were you know, restored for the Recreation Acti
vity Fund, which is the next one in that dark room green. So we do see that recovery positions were added. Services were reinstated. And we are seeing higher costs there. PRAB: The rest of the funds, nor permanent Parks and Recreation Fund, the Lottery Fund, and then other capital does include the community culture, resilience and safety tax, or the Ccrs PRAB: in that muster to yellow on the top part. Of the staff phones. So we do see that growth PRAB: at the top of each.com. You do see a red nu
mber, and it's just representative of the total spend for the year. So for 2023, we did spend just slightly over 35 million dollars. PRAB: So would the Ccrs be a sixth column on this. PRAB: because it's really not dedicated to our department on an annual basis. We don't put it on fund charge we do capture it in that month. 30 other capital. So that would have our Ccrs funding anything that's coming out of the Capital Development Fund that is dedicated to department for Cip, and any other funds t
hat the city has to capture that other capital PRAB: are these inflation adjusted numbers. PRAB: Just wrong PRAB: might be helpful to have. Other sources PRAB: colony. PRAB: if you go. PRAB: I don't know if that made a sense, for PRAB: if we did, we would probably put it as Summary says. So just our expense side. Because I, it's from evil. But we can absolutely get that updated PRAB: just depending on what? PRAB: 25. PRAB: Okay, this next slide shows uses of funds and libraries expenses. PRAB: A
ction was PRAB: tested by budget category. So in the 2019, through your 2022 of your actuals. 2023. PRAB: We'll have an actual 2023 through budget in 2024, through budget PRAB: when we look at this charge. The blue in the green PRAB: is basically what's consistent with what we consider the operating budget. So that is all. The blue is our personnel expenditure, and that later green right above that materials, equipment and such PRAB: as we look PRAB: at the numbers here, we just see that we have
increased in spend. We've increased about 3.3 million over 2022. Again, that really has to do with the cost of personnel. And then we are also seeing really inflationary costs for the department, and we have a lot of contractual services that increase PRAB: that are driving those numbers up. I will see even more as we look to the 2024 through budget, and that number does go up to 30.1 million for personnel and also for Npe PRAB: As a result of those factors. PRAB: As we look to the top of the c
hart again, you'll see those red numbers which are the actuals. You'll see. This does fluctuate a little bit more when we're looking at the capital in the other capital. And that's really due to our projects. So in 2019, see, there was a lot of capital expenditure that was first back from the pool reservoir in 2020. We did finish 2 projects. That's about 12.1 million capital expenditure. PRAB: We did drop down during the pandemic everything was constrained. And then you'll see for 2023 and 2024.
That capital budget does go back up so for those projects that we have review that will be reviewed with you when you go PRAB: questions at all. PRAB: It's moving to the South PRAB: as previously mentioned. You know, we do spend a lot of time and energy analyzing recreation activity fund looking at our fees, our services, levels and program offerings. PRAB: And we just do want to obtain that revenue to expense ratio, balance. And you can see that in 2,02023 and the 2024 budget PRAB: for 2023 ac
tuals. As mentioned, we've got that strong recovery for indoor recreation coming in is about 22%, over 2022 actuals PRAB: expense for the raft did include $600,000 that was slotted for the flat irons golf course enhancement PRAB: project. And that was done basically because they had such a strong 2022 in their revenues. We did allocate some of that funding for that project to offset that expense. PRAB: Little line that you can see across the bottom. That darker gray is our general fund subsidy,
which is really remains pretty flat. Over. We did get someone time confusion during the pandemic, and then we did receive for the pandemic. Some are the funding PRAB: for China PRAB: 21 and 2022. PRAB: Alright, any questions at all. PRAB: So that's really good. PRAB: Okay. PRAB: alright. Next up we do have 2025, but we'll go ahead. PRAB: jump right in PRAB: right into the next year. We always decide of the house like to be at least in 3 years at once. PRAB: It's a great but we just wanted to rev
iew the 2025 budget strategy goals PRAB: with you all. And the department is requesting the perhaps input. In the 2025 budget development strategy. We will be looking at some of the 2022 department plan primary policy shifts will be establishing a path forward to developing a physically restrained budget for 2025. PRAB: We will be bringing to you some updates on the free policy schedule, and we will be reviewing with multiple touches each 2025, a 2030 capital improvement program. PRAB: Just a re
minder. The practice have formal approval for capital expenditures from the permanent product and recreation fund. But then also does play an important advisory role in developing our annual appreciate and just to go over your role for PRAB: But the development you shall make recommendations to council concerning the disposal with park lands, any appropriation or expenditure from the permanent Park and recreation Fund, the protection made into the park lands, and you also shall make recommendati
ons to the Council concerning the proposed department email PRAB: slide, for example. PRAB: So, in conjunction with city-wide goals and initiatives, the PRAB: Boulder parks and Recreation Department plan serves as our guide for investment and strategies. PRAB: So as we are looking at 2025 budget development, we want to align, allocate our resources that support our sustainability, equity and resilience framework. We want to make sure that we optimize our resources. We will be focused on having y
our focus on our desired outcomes. And we want to use data. So we wanna make that driven based decisions, and also use data to measure our outcomes. PRAB: How our plan fits into all of this is that it will help us achieve a healthy and socially thriving community by developing a budget that focuses money where it will have its most impact PRAB: overall strategy about land PRAB: next slide. PRAB: And I just wanted to remind you, perhaps, of some key policy shifts that did come out of the 2022 dep
artment plan. So the first one is that we need to identify additional funding to do additional things PRAB: right. So expenses need to be offset by revenue PRAB: we needed to continue to seek alternate funding, such as grants and donations in additional tax up today PRAB: to fund our programs. PRAB: And we need to look at revenue generation opportunities which may include but are not limited to adults paying a higher, full cost. Recovery higher, non resident fees, possible commercial uses and pa
rks, and then also exploring other revenue, generating opportunities that we have PRAB: with no new funding. We do need to reevaluate levels of service to identify communities supported reductions PRAB: next Friday, please. PRAB: Alright, I'm gonna add the 7 here. PRAB: as you start talking about 2,025. I think this is like the background as far as what we've been at and everything that is getting in our direction is when you pointed out earlier, the city has identified that there are no constra
int environment just with lacking of sales, tax dollars? So we are trying to take a more cautious approach of everything. PRAB: Therefore we are going to be directing our schedule, coming as far as what is most important, and with that we rely back on 2022 PRAB: we will continue to strive to look for other non traditional funding through grants and fundraising. But with the dollars that we do receive year over year, we are going to be focusing on especially constrained items. PRAB: That are pull
ed up on the first facilities and programs and service types. PRAB: so we really view the opportunities as we next slide opportunities plan that was unanimously accepted by both the Cloud and City Council, and provides very clear direction as far as what we should be doing. PRAB: Last year we spent a whole lot of time with you talking about a few policy schedule, and that has created a good foundation of work to really help us inform how we're budgeting on revenue side. There is consistent defin
itions. Types of collecting. So we will continue to make some updates to those. But we're talking very minor minor updates. Given how recently. PRAB: And then, as we talked about earlier, we have had almost a full recovery from pre pandemic levels. It's amazing just looking at our use reports each month and seeing the continued growth across the board. PRAB: So while I'd love to be optimistic about everything we do have challenges. PRAB: and those challenges are constrained nature of the city ri
ght now. There are multiple city departments, including for a lot of the same plots of money, and at the same time we do have our own dedicated funds. Those dedicated funds are seeing the same concerns that the city funds are so we will have a basically constraint budget this really ties back into text point that inflation is having a big impact on department budgets. PRAB: Where the dollars that we spent in 2019 are no longer going as far as they used to. And then you all know that the age of o
ur assets are currently PRAB: importance to us. Looking at the department plan, taking care of what we have, was one of the top priorities. PRAB: As one of the things that we do have a significant list of unfunded capital maintenance as well as underfunded capital maintenance that we'll talk about more next Monday. PRAB: We also continue to do it with community members that the action visionable funding is what they're after. PRAB: And they're definitely constrained. So unfortunately, this means
sending those to certain priorities or continuing to advocate for additional funding PRAB: gonna roll. All of this together. As we focus on the 25 budget development. We really are looking at realignment budgets. As you saw on the previous slides. There's certain areas where we don't spend our full outfit budget to tier and that homicides with staff vacancies PRAB: underestimating or overestimating of what those expenses are and then just depending on the sequencing of capital projects, and we
can get to them. So we do seek to really realign budgets across the department in a way that continues the investments we have made, what we're actually spending year over year PRAB: as was mentioned, we will continue to focus on on traditional phone sources. And then what we've heard throughout both the permanent plan update as well as all of the see why conversations, the importance of equitable access to facilities, so that includes maintaining our financial aid and scholarship programs to ma
ke sure that we really are focusing on community recreation and that you're not turning into a private for profit. Recreation. PRAB: Next one he will be hearing more about the cip. And with that we are going to do a deep dive on our asset management program reports to Libby. PRAB: The various options. We have not just what it costs to replace it for annual billing for, but also what that port will cost us over 50 years of proactive maintenance. So I look forward to sharing that with you. PRAB: A
nd then finally, as we are looking for is Capra standards. We are going to make sure that all the budget documents align with the capital standards all that PRAB: gonna pause there I flew through 2025. Are there any questions? PRAB: What does it mean to realign budgets? PRAB: Perfect question. I'm going to call out our park operations. They budget for 6 or 7 seasonal staff members in each row every summer. PRAB: It's been difficult for them. So more than 6 solutions across 30 min work group. PRA
B: That as a result. We have about $150,000 of salary savings or seasonal summer help PRAB: can we reallocate that money to go towards contractors to help us with underfunded needs. Is that money better suited elsewhere? There is a greater community need or PRAB: aspect where we can rely on this section to make sure that happens. PRAB: Was that a good opportunity? Yeah, yeah, absolutely PRAB: doesn't have a question. And maybe it's a bigger picture question on facility, constraint. PRAB: I wonde
r? Like, I'm looking at these charts. And you know, it's pretty strong recovery. And we're pretty strong, like economic time, high property values and taxes. And so PRAB: this is fiscally constraining what is PRAB: like totally to be another. What is that like? Maybe maybe we're setting like with those terms while they're useful for planning PRAB: like, maybe we're setting, you know, really unrealistic expectations for community to be called like this is a realistic budget in a strong or relativ
ely. PRAB: And so that's a long term. But I like, I just think that maybe there should be a conversation about that, because I think there's this expectation numbers, and they see their property taxes like, why don't we have all this? And then we call this stuff this week strained, and it is compared to what we want. But it's really like this is a real realistic budget, right? PRAB: And so I don't know how to answer that. It's more like, that's a PRAB: something I've thought about throughout thi
s presentation is just that. Maybe that's that those terms and that public facing side of it needs to be PRAB: 3 3 thoughts. PRAB: I fully agree with you. It's been one of my biggest PRAB: difficulties since I started. It seems as if we have a solid business plan right now, and I'd be facilitating as a step PRAB: below that. But we'll be at that one. PRAB: I think part of this comes from the consistent department plan. Definitions across all departments was these were the 3 agreed upon financial
scenarios that were essentially evaluated PRAB: with a shift in the city. Wide strategic planning, I think that we will see less of these words in the future. And more of it is, what is our current baseline and minimum service that we would offer? What would be nice to add on, should there be additional funding, and if there were budget production PRAB: perfectly set, the only piece, I would add, is, I recognize the economy as strong as great indicators. Our costs are up pacing our weapons, and
so inflation the inflationary impacts on our fleet, on our fuel, on our staffing all of those things, tho those are growing at a faster and greater rate than expenses. So there is is reason for concern, constraint. But I agree, current spending current budget or current level of service would be a more accurate way to call them PRAB: that that existing budget. PRAB: Yeah, actually, segues. To my question, which was like, what is the biggest source of where are we seeing the greatest impacts on
and inflation? Is it salaries? Is it materials? PRAB: Yes. PRAB: The cost to heat and pool free right centers to outdoor energy. So energy staffing costs to be in the last 6 years the minimum wage go from $11 an hour to 1442, I believe. PRAB: And we have very few positions that we're actually paying for. PRAB: Cost of living wage has gone from $16 an hour in 2020 to 22, PRAB: 44. Now. PRAB: That all of our contractors that we're relying on for janitorial mainstaging tree care are also in Decembe
r. PRAB: So given the increase in energy costs, have we thought about PRAB: making investments now in like more solar and renewable technology that could potentially be savings down the line PRAB: I mean is that is that part of it. It's gonna be available. Okay? PRAB: And is that something we're considering elsewhere in our system to PRAB: cause? I feel like putting some solar panels on some buildings. Might. PRAB: I mean, I know it's not that easy, but it might be something we can help offset o
ur energy costs, but just to connect with dogs because it's great. You were here last month, I should send you the Powerpoint. So all of our recreation centers have solar. PRAB: any low hanging fruit for any conservation we have achieved. We have daylight occupancy sensors. So lights turn off when it's bright enough in spaces. We don't see sensors so that the Hvac. Doesn't run when the room is on. We have variable frequency drives on our pool, so like I went. I'll share all this. And so at this
point we are at the major millions of dollars to make the buildings more energy efficient. It's major envelope, which is the extent PRAB: the only make in it PRAB: more snug, so that air doesn't get in and out looking at geothermal heat systems so that you can tap into maybe even waste water heat systems. There's there's technology for that. PRAB: So we've we've piloted it with some of that. So I guess where I'm going is all of the facility. Renovations will include energy efficiency as a key go
al. PRAB: I figured on top of that. Most of our small equipment is now electrical. We are purchasing more and more electric PRAB: vehicles as vehicles coming for replacement, for certain things that we do, that just there won't be an alternative role solution for the foreseeable future. But when there is something that is available we are trying to. PRAB: and we'll add that the average outside parking lot stall costs $7,000 to build, and $500 a year to maintain PRAB: bowing pain PRAB: payments.
PRAB: Thank you. PRAB: Don't know. It's shit PRAB: alright. So last thing we just got 2 more quick slides. People see if you schedule you all spent a whole lot of time on this last fall. PRAB: What we have just as a reminder. These are 2 graphics. The top one is what was in the 2022 per month plan. This shows that for community benefit programs. Taxes are the predominant driver pays for these, whereas something that it's individual benefits, user fees pay for it. So an example would be PRAB: par
ticipant program taxes paid. Majority of that for the general consensity are PRAB: softball leagues. Individual benefits, big forward user fees. So there's a full cost recovery. The bottom is really just a spectrum to show kind of how we categorize that the higher the cost recovery. It just means some more individual benefits type of activity. PRAB: So on the next slide, we identify 10 different program types with you. Last year, 2 of those really had a lot of significant updates in the 24 fee s
chedule. There's 2 more that we promised for to bring back to you this year. So here's our stated intention. We do plan to return to you with commercial use and special events. PRAB: This may not mirror the budget development process completely, but if we're going to try to inform our decisions to PRAB: best project our revenue impacts associated with it. And then we do have some of the other alternative mechanisms that would be also evaluated PRAB: through the temporary verification process. PR
AB: So all that to say, we think the fee policy was good work. There is still opportunity for refinance based on questions that we've heard from staff, from community members. And we work for any input you have. PRAB: We aren't looking for major totally agreement of the document, but really acting that specific specificity and clarity where questions have really come up over the past few months. PRAB: So I'll pause there for any questions on the key policy. PRAB: I'm sure you all have in my mind
at this point. PRAB: Alright. So we did have 3 questions for you in the package. And we'd love for your info on this. They're listed up on the screen. Start to hold the parameters to that budget conversation over the next several months. Is there anything else you would like us to explore? PRAB: Questions? 3. Is what information or data does probably need to inform their decision, making process as the budget that develops. And 3 is the crowd having input on how to start the default PRAB: so, a
nd asked our questions PRAB: in the middle of those questions as we went PRAB: any wrap-up questions. PRAB: I have a question. It's not. PRAB: It's probably goes this, almost nothing goes down budget process. I'm just gonna say, anyways, I think it is relevant. Is that PRAB: I would love to have a conversation at some point, and maybe again, maybe it's not part of the best shirts, too. PRAB: but shared process PRAB: about how we are driving use of regional parks and rec centers. PRAB: I'll bet t
here's opportunities to better. PRAB: And again, I've been spending a lot of time in the Rec. Centers. I have to think about. So on. PRAB: But we in Boulder, we have and I'll just just just just just just just just write centers right in in Boulder. We have 24 h fitness. We have orange theory. We have the Alpine train center. We have the Y PRAB: Colorado, Black Club, etc, etc. PRAB: I don't think that we clearly. PRAB: particularly to the public what differentiates our facilities, and why our fa
cilities are great at work going to PRAB: other than that the city owns them. PRAB: again. That's not necessarily for our budget process. But I think that's a conversation worth having. I think there's a similar conversation to have with Reservoir. PRAB: Maybe the golf course PRAB: to the very warm. PRAB: I I'm looking to Scott, because what you just outlined is work that is on the work plan 30, 24 around a marketing plan around a business plan for the rest of us. It it's a yeah PRAB: as appropr
iate, absolutely. PRAB: And maybe he's doing your marketing professional. PRAB: That sounds great. PRAB: We cannot consult with you as a marketing professional, and that would be a conflict. Eventually you can resign your seat. And then. PRAB: I think, with that PRAB: staff list and everything, we've got new expenses like each of our program areas. The registration period is these are the fall classes of spring class. So we do a lot of that data analysis on the back end. But then how we translat
e back into marketing. PRAB: driving the visitation piece of facilities. PRAB: I think that it's something PRAB: we're really good at just looking backwards. It's not necessarily looking ahead of where we want to be and how we want to get there. So we will definitely take that feedback. And I've been relying spouse experts which easier. So PRAB: thank you for bringing it up. PRAB: Thanks the resignation. PRAB: And when I say that at my last prep meeting it's a pleasure to hear both Stacey and Ja
ckson PRAB: give a budget presentation, because you guys are always so clear and so concise. So PRAB: you know every answer and every question we have. It's really a question. So PRAB: thank you for being with us. You're good in the badge. That's your questions. PRAB: Seriously you stuck them up. What about Sunny? Any questions, Sunny? Do you have any questions or anything to add. Sunny van der Star: Nothing at this time. Thank you. PRAB: Thank you. PRAB: Okay. PRAB: we'll move on to matters for
the board. And the first item I suggest that we discuss. PRAB: Yeah, I looked at it in the beginning of the agenda setting. PRAB: and that is, PRAB: the City Council meeting on April eleventh. PRAB: That will consider the historic PRAB: designation of the civic area PRAB: around the if we discussed PRAB: 2 months ago. PRAB: The suggestion was made that PRAB: someone be available from PRAB: from proud plan board and possibly from landmarks. Is that what the other PRAB: to be able to answer? Ques
tions city Council might have about board opinions. PRAB: and I won't be on the board at that time. PRAB: and I think from the PRAB: on the plane to Austria. PRAB: So PRAB: so I don't know what other name needs to do. This PRAB: hasn't even PRAB: okay. That's a regular evening meeting. One thing I'll just note on behalf of Staff when you speak on behalf of the Board. It would be those board talking points. PRAB: I think you would have to clarify the English for a community member versus, and it'
s helpful to review the minutes. And also the video. If you want clarification on what? PRAB: Okay, thank you very much. PRAB: It's fast. PRAB: Okay, management board prime matters. So it's an opportunity to relate any questions you have from the community any concerns that are appropriate for this scale PRAB: of discussion. PRAB: I just wanted to say I was at PRAB: Vliel Lake PRAB: sledding yesterday, my kids, and I was there for 2 and a half hours, and the entire time there were people from I
think it was either staff or volunteers from the department shoveling the tennis courts with that south rep, and it was like just amazing to watch, because it really having recently doing a lot of shoveling of heavy snow. I was just amazed by how dedicated they were, and how long it took, and PRAB: just everybody seemed to have a smile on their face, and PRAB: I think it was a really positive reflection of the PRAB: the department. So it's the partnership itself of all they organize it. They hav
e a person in the organization that person itself organizes. Make sure they use plastic shells that don't damage the cordon. They really only PRAB: cleaned up and ready to go for pickle ball. So. PRAB: And Bernie, did you have a meeting with the tennis and doable folks? I missed the last meeting. Okay. PRAB: but we saw the first patient night. Right? PRAB: Okay, great. Thank you very much. PRAB: And we have app recruitment, orientation and the parking members. PRAB: This is historically a moment
where, if any members of the Board want to offer anything charter party members, you can do so. We also have gifts that we have given to Jason and Chuck to recognize their service. We're incredibly grateful. I'll say out loud just on behalf of our team that both of you in different ways. It's just amazing to look at the stand work that you have been a part of in your time on crab PRAB: chuck in 5 years, and then Jason and you came on on board, I think, just started having meetings in person in
the last, however, many months, which just mind boggling a little bit when you look at PRAB: what that means as a board member. But I was just struck. And looking at these graphics, if you look at the significant revenue reduction in 2021, I just don't know. I mean, I know they were our first years. And and you guys were right there with us and supporting our choices supporting the team, and we're incredibly grateful. PRAB: Both left your work on the community. And the facilities that you've hel
ped open. I treasure those pictures from both the rest of your support, but also to you both. People always ask about what what is, be the board member, and I think I told you each of you to me. It's it's someone who is going to ask us really great questions to make the work better in a way that recognizes for people who care on our public services. PRAB: and we're very grateful. PRAB: Thank you very much. PRAB: Oh, I've absolutely enjoyed my time on the board. PRAB: My first start on the board.
I looked at Parks. The whole new light, like I had to sense of pride and donorship. It was like. PRAB: I'm responsible for that, you know, at some level it was really great doing, and that's maintained all the way through my tender. And so PRAB: I learned a lot about the Parks department. That's the best run department in the city by far my team PRAB: and great staff, great leadership. PRAB: Everyone seems to enjoy their work, which is a key part of PRAB: being good at your job. I think PRAB: s
o. PRAB: I I've learned so much about the city and and how it works. And it's just been a great. PRAB: really great process, like all things. PRAB: can't think of anything bad at all. PRAB: Some meetings, usually the P. The keyboard needs prairie dogs PRAB: discussed. PRAB: That was a long PRAB: bless you PRAB: why, it's a file shot, but I have PRAB: share the same, Sam. And actually, I think about this one. Terry and I joined. Our interviews were in February 2020. PRAB: I've told this before, b
ut I remember going to the University Council. Go to like, shake some guy's hand if you look to be like you know, what are you doing? Cases in Seattle? PRAB: And then, you know, a few weeks later, you know. PRAB: I think it is. We got a plan to thrive, and then beside each other person for more than 2 years. PRAB: Just finish up, maybe 2 years ago. PRAB: But it's you know, as Jack said, it's just been. It is the best board PRAB: I told people it's get to work on great issues, and you don't use f
riendships in the city because you're PRAB: if you're working on tough, important issues, but not PRAB: not divisive issues, it's a renewal time PRAB: price of it. PRAB: But I've been just so impressed with the staff and how the leadership. And PRAB: I think we're all lucky to have you know, city staff like this. PRAB: You all benefit from your expertise and dedication. PRAB: But yeah, so I just that's been the big tip of it is just how impressive PRAB: the people with these departments. We are
PRAB: always more people do that. So PRAB: yeah, thank you for PRAB: this experience. It's PRAB: it's been a great group. It's gonna be a great group going forward. PRAB: I'm excited for 3 numbers. PRAB: I was thinking back to some of the people I've served with with Tara and Barry Scott, and PRAB: there you go. PRAB: Raj. It's been a really great week before, so PRAB: for this experience. PRAB: Well, if I just say a couple of words PRAB: to you guys, so PRAB: chuck, start with you. PRAB: It's b
een an absolute pleasure to serve with you. My time on the board, and I think you're an incredibly good leader. You run the meetings super efficiently PRAB: there with everybody, and you treat everybody PRAB: from board members to staff to the public with a lot of respect. PRAB: And I think that that's some often challenging when you're trying to run a meeting, and there are a lot of interesting personalities. But I I really think we do. You have done all those things perfectly. And PRAB: I know
everybody in the room thinks this. But you you're definitely the most thoughtful and prepared member of the board. I mean, like you, you definitely closely read the packets at a level that I don't. I think all of us would aspire to and we really appreciate the questions you bring, and every time you ask a question. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's good question. I should have seen that, you know. But really appreciate how much energy brought to the role, because it's a volunteer job, and you you clea
rly PRAB: prepared for every meeting extensively. PRAB: And then I really appreciate how you you're very committed to the environment and the climate, and you live that you ride your bike to every meeting, and you probably ride your bike everywhere to go in boulder which is really awesome to see. And as a homage to that, I rode my bike from South Boulder then. Now as an electric bike. PRAB: Okay. But I I definitely I I wanted to make sure that I I I it's trying to emulate you for one meeting to
this building. But I've always admired that. And it's really been great to serve with you. PRAB: Please stay in touch PRAB: if I have questions for you, please pick up the phone and then Jason, PRAB: So I I was thinking back on this. I met you 20 years ago, almost to the day you were. I was a snot nosed first year. Teacher, you were snot noticed education policy director for Senator Harry Reid. Is it some over air condition group in Los Angeles, Nevada? But yeah. And we? So we struck up a friend
ship. We both ended up pursuing careers and education in some way, you in policy and me, and like PRAB: whatever else I've been doing law PRAB: and it's so great that we got to reconnect PRAB: in Boulder. We'll move back here. And then we have kids who are basically the same age and are on soccer teams and basketball teams and you are. You're the reason I'm here because I called you one day I was. I can't think I want to get involved in the city board. PRAB: and we were like, Hey, I'm on this th
ing, called Brad. You should check it out. PRAB: and so I did, and here I am, and so really grateful for that. And it's been awesome to serve with you. And we're all really sad anything the Brad. You've been an amazing member. You asked the the questions that I wish I I didn't know I had. But then, when you ask them. I'm like, Oh, yeah, that's that also was that was a question I should add, as well. But I think that just reflects how PRAB: you've been in some really important meetings and rooms
in your career, like in Congress and in the Senate, and that shows in your work on this board. I mean, like you bring such a lens like an amazing lens to every policy issue that I I really would like to emulate more. But excited for your next chapter, and PRAB: well, there is to go very much. PRAB: but I didn't hear anything about thank you both. I'm sorry that I'm of course, getting worse. But PRAB: I definitely would want me to do, and PRAB: I'll do my best cardboard regarding to these meeting
s. Once mind the allows PRAB: excellent. PRAB: and bring up parking lots for the same reason. PRAB: Yes, I've PRAB: second one. We must say that I don't want new and PRAB: respectful of the year. PRAB: You're buying this one PRAB: negative 4 and positive one absolute. PRAB: I know you will find 2 licenses PRAB: he just needed PRAB: as a concern. Citizen of Folder. Right? PRAB: I asked. Chapters. PRAB: Thank you. Appreciate seeing PRAB: that's just really. Sunny van der Star: Sorry I wasn't there
to be there with you guys Sunny van der Star: and say, you know, give you both a hug and say, Thank you. But I just want you to know. It's been a pleasure getting to know you Sunny van der Star: through this medium. And I'm really gonna miss seeing you guys and miss hearing your insights into these Sunny van der Star: questions that we're all exploring together, and I'm I'm excited to continue to Sunny van der Star: stay connected with you and your work through Sunny van der Star: play, and the
School Board, and I just wish you the best. I look forward to see you guys around town. PRAB: Thank you. Thanks. A lot of time. PRAB: My pleasant view. PRAB: 1 s. Yeah. What's in the packages? PRAB: Feel like it's a picture thing. PRAB: Get them PRAB: sounds good. PRAB: That's nice. PRAB: Think for my favorite part. That's our full report. PRAB: It's appreciation for serving on the private. And how these come about is we ask the members what is your favorite park? And so then I go and source a
picture, and we get that rain for them. PRAB: They were in Jonathan Thornton's library. PRAB: Can I ask about the the Newbies? PRAB: What are their names? And PRAB: yeah, what are your names? Yeah, let me grab. I I know 3 of the names. I just am going to grab the details for you from this morning's meeting, where we talked about it. So PRAB: The PRAB: here it is the 5 term seating shops expired. Term is being filled by Jenny Robbins. PRAB: The 3 years term that is finishing Anita Spears term is
filled by Wayland Lewis. PRAB: The one year term that is finishing under term is Eric. PRAB: He's great. PRAB: you know. Yeah. PRAB: really. PRAB: I think all 3 of them really helpful on the board and the work that we have. Next. PRAB: I PRAB: will. Wayland and Eric have the opportunity to stay on if they want to serve full time. It's really the City Council's purview. They and I. They talked about this. There's been appointments like, so for someone who just serves a one year term. They often r
eport the opportunity to serve a full year term, and it really just depends on any given year. That PRAB: council pays attention to lots of factors. They pay attention to geographic distribution, gender distribution. They do. They do think about again unfinished terms. If someone just had a one year term that that person often can get another term, but it really depends. PRAB: I think, that Thursday night they said several times what an embarrassment of riches that were for several boards, inclu
ding this one that it was. There were hard choices to make, which is where we want to be. PRAB: And so at the next regular meeting, at the beginning of the meeting. They'll be sworn in. Right? Yeah, let's go back to the agenda. There's a few things around process stuff that we need to make sure you guys talk about. PRAB: Let's go. Oh. PRAB: select. Okay. PRAB: Oh, try the remote TV every month. PRAB: and there are some logistics about their onboarding that it takes on your matters for your board
. PRAB: It's still on Rosa's computer, Sunny. We'll be back in a moment. PRAB: if we want to go back to your agenda for a moment there were a few items and matters from the board around. PRAB: I have approval. Orientation. Yes, we have to swear it in before we select the officers PRAB: correct. PRAB: Oh, thank you. Scott's better than PRAB: so one. And I think it's in the actual matters from the department. PRAB: Rosa, I believe, and pasted in. So what are we looking for? The details on the the
chair and vice chair recruitment? And what that typically looks like? Okay, so Elliott, do you want to chime in. PRAB: Rose and I chatted about this earlier. But for the remaining members PRAB: so Sunny listening in. PRAB: I, PRAB: rose is going to send us an email PRAB: so that will address PRAB: nominations for share and vice chair. So people can nominate others, they can self nominate. And then she's gonna compile that information, and then send everybody before the next meeting to say who's
been nominated and for what positions. PRAB: and then we'll use that info as a launching point for the elections. PRAB: So that's the first thing that we're going to start with is so and so is nominated as chair. Do we have a vote for? Yes, so and so is nominated for vice chair. Do we have a vote for? Yes, and then and so that new person would start the meeting on April 20 s. PRAB: and this is all preceded by swearing in of the new record so that they can vote exactly. Yup. PRAB: It's a little P
RAB: also, as far as the new folks. Brosa and I will be reaching. They'll get a city on boarding about being a board member that you all might remember. They'll get a department onboarding that will include this financial presentation, recognizing their guiding end during budget session. And then I believe you all typically assign. PRAB: And if that can be on the agenda for your April meeting. You assign the new folks a prep. Month, or someone they can have on text when they're reading the packe
t. PRAB: Can you give a copy of the handbook, too? Yes, absolutely. And so Elliot, what i'm Gonna do is go back to April of 2,023, and and just emulate everything that we did there PRAB: for the PRAB: for the private members. Okay, please, yeah. PRAB: And then as well. We now that we have 3 new proud members. We're going to send out PRAB: a poll to see when in May. You would like your main meeting PRAB: won't just be the normal. PRAB: So the fourth Monday of May is the holiday. Yeah. So PRAB: th
at's memorial. Yep. PRAB: So lots on the agenda for April 20 s. PRAB: And so I'll make a suggestion. I PRAB: I think we should not have a poll. I think we should say it's gonna be the bundle before that PRAB: may just twentieth, and we can do that PRAB: if you all agree on that. PRAB: And would you love to have a manual? Would you do? Yeah. And I I think that was going to be the PRAB: I block that day off, anyway. So okay. And so, Elliot, you are the only one with us at the Prep. Agenda sitting
meeting this Thursday. PRAB: are you? You're still on the board until the end of March. Right? I'm still on. But I will not be in town. Okay, someone else like to participate. Yeah, does anybody else wanna join? PRAB: It's typically at (245) 145-1520 min. PRAB: Unfortunately, I haven't pop up at that time. Okay, anything awesome. PRAB: really? Okay. PRAB: And I need to invite for that. Yeah, it was just something we're going to discuss today to make sure we had somebody as well. Sunny van der St
ar: I won't be able to make that date. But thank you. PRAB: And PRAB: it's up to you, Ellen. PRAB: I'll just go solo. PRAB: Sorry about that. That's okay. Interesting process. PRAB: Okay? Anything else on the chair and vice chair selection process. PRAB: Okay? So the final item on the agenda is the finalization of the City Council letter. PRAB: So we have a draft letter that's been circulated. Hope. Everyone's have time to look at it. PRAB: And thank you very much to Anna and Bernie for bringing
together PRAB: thanks to you both for bringing together. PRAB: so there are a couple of items that need to be filled in. One is the actual number type. PRAB: the actual where there's a spot for requesting funds. PRAB: Where'd that go? PRAB: You're already filled in PRAB: another Xxx link somewhere. PRAB: They're probably it's not our time threat center section PRAB: programme, too. PRAB: or enablement charge, etc. PRAB: I usually essentially, they gave us some numbers already. I thought, some a
dditional. PRAB: Okay, so it's already until then. Yeah. PRAB: okay, I did find one issue. PRAB: the top of the third page, or right after the chart. PRAB: There's another page that follows. PRAB: and that just starts in the middle of a sentence PRAB: like we lost a piece of a sentence somewhere when you pasted in the graphics. Info. PRAB: yeah. Because also means that the city's pool potential life car is nothing but larger versus a. PRAB: So PRAB: if that can be corrected, that would be PRAB:
fabulous PRAB: website. PRAB: And then the day needs to be done PRAB: as obvious. PRAB: I thought that this was right. Go back to that. I thought, PRAB: it should read. Let's do the pencil lab. Make sure No. One. PRAB: It's okay with PRAB: it should read. Not only does this put marginalized children have increased risk of drowning, but it also limits their access, exercise and recreation. It also means that it's cool to catch live part. It's not as large for the board first as it could be. PRAB:
First part of the sentence is missing. PRAB: The first one is 2 days, almost 2 cents. PRAB: Okay, so we'll PRAB: rose. We'll just send you a new. Yeah, I need it. Before March 20 s, yeah. But and don't worry about it. You can PRAB: send it to me in the morning tomorrow afternoon. PRAB: Okay, I'm just saying I just need it before. PRAB: And sentences there. So it's just PRAB: exactly yeah, so it's a technical kind of issue. Yeah. PRAB: I I did want to say that I I really like letter, because I f
eel like it PRAB: puts out in front PRAB: exactly what we're asking for. Right? These are the 3 issues. PRAB: And then you have in detail what? PRAB: Why, we're asking for it, and how much PRAB: and what the needs are. And so I really like having that broken into 2 pieces that puts a request right at the front. PRAB: And then for those who want to dive into the details. The details all here refer notes and everything. So PRAB: I I think you did a really nice job, a very impressive job of putting
together all the information, the data, the graphics. PRAB: It's a it's a lot to read. But I think it's because because of the way it's split up. It's not going to be too much to ask for the city Council members to PRAB: read the name request and then PRAB: look at the details if they want to. PRAB: Yeah, I know the inclusion of charts is really PRAB: really smart. PRAB: That really was on PRAB: tickets. PRAB: Just not the not only just like making. Here's what we hope. But all this, all the da
ta and all the stats whatever peer marketing. But for New York City during that it's very welcome. So PRAB: I want PRAB: Bird PRAB: Jackson. PRAB: You believe the data for the numbers that'd be 15. There were other sites. PRAB: Okay, thanks. Thank you very much. Appreciate mine. PRAB: Tony, do you have any comments on the letter. Sunny van der Star: No. PRAB: And calls the end of the meeting. PRAB: Right? Okay? Last item is next working until twenty-second, which would be PRAB: here we go becaus
e I have reserved Benton. We won't think it works. This is great. PRAB: I think. Fixing the microphone issue would probably PRAB: hang on motion. Then, to adjourn the meeting. They got 4 s, all in favor. Bye. Thank you very much.

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