The Chinese Communist Party has been trying to subvert countries all over the world. The goal is to be able to control them from the inside, something it seems like China has succeeded in doing in some cases. In this episode of China Unscripted, we discuss how China can still be defeated, how to win countries back, and what the US and its allies can do to effectively counter Chinese influence on the ground. Joining us in this episode of Cleo Paskal, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
This is a highlight from the full episode No. 220 Is Communism’s COLLAPSE Near? | Cleo Paskal https://youtu.be/u8HgvdPr9ag
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foreign this is going to affect a lot of
these other countries that are suffering from Chinese influence but are
not necessarily standing up I'm thinking well I mean I know Biden recently
on 9 11 he was in Vietnam trying to um beef up relations between the U.S and Vietnam
against China but also like all of the Pacific island nations I don't know we've talked a lot
about that are struggling with really severe Chinese influence operations yes so I think it
was in Alaska if I'm not mistaken b
ut I think he or maybe he was in transit but um words are
really important to understand what's going on on the ground and when you say that a country
like Solomon Islands you know has has gone over to China that it's usually at least initially uh
of just a very small group within the leadership so China will come in Chinese Communist party and
in many cases criminal organizations will come in and develop relationships with a very very small
number of leaders then that money gets then they
become proxies who spread the money throughout
the systems and it kind of corrupts the systems from the inside and you get a specific targeting
of and this goes back to the to the warfares of unrestricted Warfare Gourmet lailari has spoken
very very well about this you know about targeting in in the you know apart from everything else
they'll always go after the independent Judiciary um you know the the media and the uh kind
of psychology of governance and the ultimate goal is to metastasiz
e the Chinese system
which means the destruction of democracy um and the the replication of it you know there's
that that parasite to use the parasite model again that um gets gets into the host and then takes
over its brain and then runs the host uh from from the inside and that's kind of the model
now what does that mean in the context of uh a place like Solomon Islands uh Solomon Islands
the leadership of Solomon Islands has indeed signed the security deal with China this is
not popular
on the ground and if they had free and fair elections it would change
that's why the Chinese proxies are going after the elections that's why they have already
delayed elections once so these countries are not lost to China I've heard I've heard it repeatedly
said oh you know Solomon's has lost to China first of all when a country recognizes Taiwan it's
not like Beijing says oh that country has lost to Taiwan they stick around and continue to fight
their Corner similarly if you if if you w
ant to give the people if you truly believe in the world
as one family and you're and you believe in the people which we should as proponents of democracy
you you bolster the elements within that country that are important to the people and uh
unfortunately what's happened in Solomon's is you know that there's been a focus on what
the leadership wants which is very similar to the appeasement process that you see with China so
Australia has for example thrown in like a hundred million Austra
lian dollars towards the Pacific
games which is going to be associated with China anyway uh but uh I was in Solomon's recently
and went to the hospital local hospital there and if they had put one tenth
of that into the local hospital Australia would be so much more popular on
the ground in Solomon's you know and the idea of Engagement with the West would be so
much more popular with Solomon Islanders than than with China and um and then you ensure
that there's democracy if China shows up
with the peace Arc which they did they're
the only ones providing us with health care and you've rigged the elections anyway and we're
too weak and tired to fight and if this is the way the country is going to go that's what
it's going to go we don't have any options so until you know there until you actually provide
those options um you're leaving the playing field to China I think my argument makes sense but
I could be unsure tell me what I've missed well so do you think with the US and
Australia these Western Powers failing for example the people of Solomon Islands do you
think the actions of India and the Philippines could provide some kind of Solace to
them and Empower a movement against Chinese Communist incursion yeah they just I mean
they there's so many countries that just want an option they just want it up and and that's why
um you know when Prime Minister Modi went to Papua New Guinea in May and proposed this you know
12-point plan uh for the for the Pacific Isla
nds um they were things like setting
up a dialysis unit in every country at you'd think this is an area that has incredibly
High diabetes rates why hasn't Australia helped with that already you know why are why are we
at this point in history but what what India is offering and and this is another thing is that
you know we talk a lot about security cooperation and and again you know there's a there is a
discussion now about whether Australia should help this Pro PRC prime minister the Solom
ons who
landed in China recently and said it's good to be home whether you know he's now said he wants
a military so the discussion is whether Australia should help him build a military now they're
doing it under the rubric of security cooperation again if you get back to kind of putting
the family at the core of interactions then you can expand the definition of security from
that kind of hard security to human security and what do you need for human security you
you need a hospital you n
eed roads that work you need affordable telecoms in case of emergency
so you know accepting this uh kind of almost this Chinese definition of security or very traditional
definition of security doesn't doesn't resonate locally and actually doesn't really provide
security unless you know it provides in fact an opening for China because they're going to
out securitize your security anyway especially if you get these increasingly authoritarian
leaders in so on the human security front if you c
hange the terminology from security just heart
straightforward security to human security India is extremely good at it because it's had to deal
with so many of these issues in a similar climate uh at home with flooding and erosion and remote
Villages and small-scale economics and education um you know in remote areas small classrooms
all that sort of stuff so the model that that India is proposing and I'm sure there are
models from others others I'm sure there are lessons to be learned fro
m the Philippines
in the Pacific Islands or you know from any number of countries so seeing that kind of
interaction or Africa I mean so it's great the African Union is now in the G20 might start
to create more of this sort of human security that ideally would bolster
democracy which makes it a very um unappetizing or more difficult host for the
parasitic Chinese Communist Party sounds like India would be a much better Steward of the region
than Australia I don't know what to tell you I th
ink there are a lot of really real trillions who
understand everything that I'm saying and who've served on the ground and who've sacrificed
and who are trying to make things better but this is uh all the political parties and
trying to in in Australia Freudian slip there um you know seem to have fallen into this uh
trap of of looking at the Pacific as as basically political politically inconvenient if independent
and so they you know they were colonists in the area until quite recently unt
il the 70s and
the idea of these of independent countries is complicated and uh and they've overtly
said in in for example the the I think it was 2017 white paper you know that the goal is to
integrate the Pacific Islands economically and in terms of security with Australia you know they'd
like everybody to use the Australian dollar and to be you know basically part of the uh you know
Australian military to have Australian military on the ground some do I mean this is you've you've
I've se
en it quite often variations on this theme I mean these are postcolonial countries there's
no way they want to do that and and ultimately if Australia can't particularly consistently
defend itself from Chinese political Warfare why do we even think they'll do it effectively in
the Pacific Islands and if Pacific Islanders in Australia and New Zealand New Zealand says
the same thing and doesn't do great either have higher rates of you know poverty education
things like that why do we think th
at Australian systems particularly understand the
needs of Pacific Islanders either better especially better than Pacific Islanders
themselves doesn't make any sense so you need to again as with the family you know
you can be tied together but you're you're in you make independent decisions and
you trust people to be to that you don't have a choice you have to let people make independent
decisions and then create an environment where there's enough Social Capital trust Goodwill
uh joint va
lues that you work together without it being a compulsion uh which is where the
the real problems start to come in especially in this kind of integrated model that Australia
and New Zealand have been pushing in the region foreign [Music]
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This is a highlight from the full episode No. 220 Is Communism’s COLLAPSE Near? | Cleo Paskal https://youtu.be/u8HgvdPr9ag
Nothing is "lost" until you give up. In Myanmar, the pro-democracy civilians are fighting the military junta which has a well-armed national army that has tanks, helicopter gunships, and fighter jets, and we started with literally slingshots and muskets. But after 2 years, we, the pro-democracy civilians have worked with Ethnic Armed Organizations in Myanmar and were able to train resistance militia forces armed with automatic rifles, and we are able to work together and take over formerly junta controlled territory. In fact, more than 70% of the country is contested, and junta can only secure about 20% of the country - mostly city centers.
Ms. Paskal is clearly a proponent of common sense "soft power" as opposed to security contracts proposed by Western Military-Industrial powers or Chinese model economic infrastructure "teases". I get it. Win the hearts and minds of the people and one way or the other, the "head" of the country has to follow or lose power.
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It would appear the same thing is happening in Canada , with Cnada picking fight with India yet doing nothing about China interfierance in our elections .
Lost this battle, not the war
You're right that woman's right
You'd do it for Randolph Scott.
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sorry to say this, but, your guest spoke in generalities without referring to the history Australia has had in the region, the infrastracture in nearly all the island States was built by Australia, same with telecommunications, navy coastal patrol vessels, monetary system, sports development, etc has been given and supported by Australia. Many areas have been lacking, I freely admit, eg, the previous Liberal federal government did treat the island States with indifference, regarding climate change, which was insensitive, arrogant and idiotic, eg; the PM, Morrison, when asked to step up with getting to zero emissions quickly because storm surges were now coming far inland and destroying their crops (sea water) that oaf responded, 'Well you can come to Australia and work on the farms there!' or words to that effect. That made the vast majority of Aussies ashamed and mortified. However, the current Labor government with PM Albanese, has set out a comprehensive plan to reduce emissions and also invest even more in the island States. That Soloman's PM double crossed Australia, he and a number of other MPs allegedly took bribes from China, roughly $37,000 each, to ban Aussie and US navies from visiting port, and sign up to a trade and security deal. China already has taken control of a mine there, with guards blocking any access and Chinese workers are present. The Solomans is a strategic point in the region between USA and Australia. Next China will put a long range missile system in the Solomans! A couple of years back China was trying to install a nuclear missile site in Indonesia! That has not happened, but, China approached many countries in the region to allow them to build missile sites, up to 16 sites around the South Pacific countries and I think Africa way. Anyway, please do your own research in my region (Aussie here!) and expose what has been going on and what China has been up to. Thank you for your reportage, you are one of the few sites with an open and balanced viewpoint, enjoyably spiced up with the odd droll bon mott and deserving spray of ascerbic invective! LOVE WHAT YOU DO!!🎉❤❤😁🐨🐨🐨🇺🇸🐨🐨🐨 12:14 12:14
8:52 "Sounds like India would be a much better steward for the region than Australia"... India isn't even a steward in South Asia, let alone the Pacific Islands. They couldn't stop any of the countries from getting close to China.
Biden wasn't in Alaska he traveled there and Boarded a Submarine to Tiwan 😮
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