this morning a deadly building collapse an airplane hanger crashing to the ground at this airport in Boise Idaho the death toll overnight and what we've learned about the work being done at the time an urgent warning from the director of the FBI cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety how he says China may try to attack our water supply and power grid to quote wreak havoc Tech CEO grilled on Capital Hill accused of not doing enough to prot
ect kids from abuse and drugs the remarkable moment when Mark Zuckerberg apologized and what comes next in the fight to hold social media companies more responsible risk on the road new crash tests raising concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails dramatic moment a girl falls from the ski lift plunging to the ground we hear from Witnesses a new alert from the FDA about so-called copycat ey drops that could be contaminated Travis Kelce opens up what he's now revealing
about his relationship with Taylor Swift and the one moment that made him blush and later the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day from ABC news in New York this is America this morning good Thursday morning everyone I'm ran and Aly and I'm Andrew Denberg we begin with a deadly building collapse the building was under construction on the grounds of an Airport overnight police were combing the scene for Clues as to what could have happened this morning authorities are investigating what caus
ed a building under construction to suddenly collapse at the airport in Boise Idaho killing three people and injuring at least nine others I currently have three people trapped in elevated in the gen two of those are currently unresponsive the structure being built was an airplane hanger authorities say a crane was placing something on the steel framework when it collapsed I can tell you that it was a pretty global collapse that occurred to the main structural members uh came down was fairly cat
astrophic a man who works at the airport says at the time he was recording planes landing in Gusty winds the structure and the crane seen in this video minutes before the collapse investigators overnight said it's unclear exactly what caused the hanger to come crashing down an airport spokesperson says while the hanger is on Airport property it was being built by a private company which says dozens of workers were on site adding their hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event at
least five of those victims were in critical condition overnight a new warning about us National Security and the danger posed by China the FBI director told Congress yesterday that China is looking to wreak havoc by using cyber attacks to Target us Water and Power Systems and that's not all he's warning about ABC's Andrea Fuji has has more China's multipronged assault on our national and economic security make it the defining threat of Our Generation a stark new warning from us intelligence lea
ders about the Cyber threat posed by China let's be clear cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety FBI director Christopher Ray and other officials warning lawmakers that the country's transportation system water treatment plants and electrical grids are vulnerable to hackers working on behalf of the Chinese government telecommunications going down so people can't use their cell phone people start getting sick from polluted water trains get
derailed air traffic control system po Port control systems are malfunctioning this is truly an everything everywhere all at once scenario the justice department has revealed it recently dismantled a Chinese hacking group called V old typhoon that hijacked hundreds of home and small business routers to Target infrastructure former White House cyber response Chief Jeff Green says China is looking to create chaos the goal of these intrusions is largely to create that societal panic and we need to
make sure that we are prepared not to panic we take the power away from our adversaries when we can take a punch roll with it and move forward director Ray says China's hackers outnumber FBI cyber Personnel 50 to one he wants more funding to fight the threat but experts say the American people can also do their part these intrusions are happening because of fundamental flaws in devices that these critical infrastructure services are using so you as an individual can't do a lot to protect the cr
itical infrastructure but you can help protect prepare yourself when President Biden and Chinese president shei met back in November she assured Biden China would not interfere fear in the upcoming presidential election FBI director Christopher Ray testified he will believe that when he sees it Andrew ranan all right Andrea thank you a new air strike in the Middle East the Pentagon says US forces targeted a drone base used by Iranian backed rebels in Yemen to attack ships in the Red Sea a US war
ship yesterday shot down a missile and three attack drones in one hour and a missile came within a mile of the USS Gravely the closest encounter since the rebels began the attacks in October in support of hamas's war against Israel meanwhile the White House is blaming an umbrella group of Iranian backed fighters in Iraq for the Drone attack that killed three US soldiers in Jordan Sunday the looming us response could play out over a period of weeks targeting Iranian Assets in neighboring countrie
s a big decision on Capitol Hill affecting your taxes in a rare moment of bipartisanship Democrats joined Republicans as the house passed a $78 billion tax bill last night it would give low-income families about $700 in child tax benefits and it would restore some tax breaks for businesses including full deductions for things like new equipment but the bill still needs to pass the Senate where it faces an uncertain future the CEOs of Tik Tock Instagram and other big tech companies were grilled o
n Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to protect the mental health of kids on social media families who lost children to Suicide were among those in the audience a were made but will it lead to any new laws in the face of powerful lobbying groups ABC's M win is here now with more M good morning Rihanna good morning yes Senators compare the tech companies to Big tobacco claiming they prioritize profits over the well-being of children you have a product you have a product that's killing peopl
e the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday accused the chief Executives of meta X Tik Tok snap and Discord of failing to protect kids who use their platforms grieving families pack the hearing room holding up images of their children they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media Mr Zuckerberg you and the companies before us I know you don't mean it to be so but you have blood on your hands meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was especially singled out Senator Josh Holly called on the Faceb
ook founder to directly apologize to the families the pictures would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people KN that to go through the things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so much and are going to you doing industry Le efforts to uh to make sure that no one has to go through thep of things that your families can pass up Evan Spiegel the chief executive of snap also apologized after lawmakers pressed him on the issue of drugs being sold
on Snapchat I'm so sorry that we have not been able to prevent these tragedies the executives emphasized their parents themselves and they highlighted new tools on their platforms that protect kids from illegal content a commitment is ongoing and unwavering because there is no Finish Line when it comes to protecting teens according to a meta spokesperson the company in recent months removed 90,000 accounts for potentially suspicious behavior and is disabled more than 2.6 million accounts for vio
lating the company's child sexual exploitation policies the senate committee says it hopes the hearing will build momentum for legislation aimed at boosting privacy and parental controls for children but not all the executives support that legislation only two of the five Executives the CEOs of X forly known as Twitter and snap are promising to support bipartisan legislation that would make these companies more liable for harmful content on their platforms notably Mark Zuckerberg and the CEO of
Tik Tok did not Zuckerberg said a law requiring social media platforms to check the age of users would be trivial instead he said that responsibility should fall on App Store providers such as Apple and Google Congress has been trying to regulate social media for years but is yet to pass a law Andrew all right M thank you turning to the weather now the storms hitting the West Coast are bringing heavy winds to California cars had to dodge tumble weeds here in central California but the big story
today is a risk for flooding around Los Angeles with that let's check your Thursday forecast good morning a powerful Pacific storm the first that we're going to see in a series of these into next week is moving through California we have a nasty nasty morning commute in Los Angeles if you can still adjust that schedule you're going to leave some extra time or need some extra time and be in better shape after accounting for the rain in La feet of snow into the Sierra this moves into the Four Corn
ers region with heavy Mountain snow through tonight moving in through the Great Basin and ultimately this will also produce some strong thunderstorms Friday night into Texas I'm aie weather meteorologist Jeff Cornish coming up a bizarre site along the road in Florida grizzly bears from Alaska will explain also ahead the text messages revealed at the trial of the Michigan mom whose son was behind a deadly school shooting and later a ski lift nightmare why a teenager went plunging to the ground at
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taller right we're bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery as a man it's like man I wish I was taller we see men who are taller as the alpha I went from 5'9 right now wish shoes I'm 61 everybody's freaked out by it on the basis of what it's called leg lengthening you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu from America's number one news comes the all new ABC News app if you love being in the know you're going to love this experience t
he allnew ABC News app download it now an unusual encounter in Florida they look like Grizzlies but a pair of Kodiak bear cubs native to Alaska were calmly approaching cars in the Florida Panhandle they grow bigger than Grizzlies turns out they had escaped from the home of a local bear trainer just a little curious there Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the Russ movie set his plea avoids an arraignment that was scheduled for today meanwhile
new details about the film's weapon supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other charges core documents Show members of the us crew were concerned about Hannah Gutierrez Reed's alleged drug and alcohol use during filming prosecutors say evidence shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first began working on the movie that is a claim she has denied now to the trial of a Michigan mother whose son was behind a deadly school shooting in 2021 the case against her now center
ing on text messages revealed in court new evidence in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley she's charged with involuntary manslaughter accused of disregarding the risks posed by her son Ethan before he fatally shot four students at his Michigan High School body camera video played in court shows authorities storming a Detroit Warehouse where Crumbley and Ethan's father were allegedly hiding police with guns drawn found the crumb's Apparently asleep with more than $6,000 in cash I see two people layin
g on a mattress um if I'm not mistaken they're facing each other jurors also heard yesterday from a man first identified as Jennifer crumb's high school friend Brian malach during questioning it was revealed he and crumbly had been having an affair malat saying on the morning of the shooting Jennifer texted him worried her son was going to do something dumb he also testified Crumbley was able to leave work to meet with him on the day of the shooting despite Crumbley allegedly telling the school
that she could not take her son home for mental health care because she was needed at work did she ever tell you um that she didn't have to be at a meeting later in the day on November the 30th 2021 in fact she was able to leave work to meet you when it pleased her yes prosecutors say other text messages revealed Jennifer Crumbley wrote the shooting could have been prevented but the defense argues she wasn't aware how much her son was struggling and says the school could have done more to help h
im another text message reveals crumbly said I failed as a parent I failed miserably she could take the stand before the end of the trial coming up there's a new warning out about contaminated ey drops also ahead crash tests rais new concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery as a man it's like
man I wish I was taller we see men who are taller as the alpha I went from 59 right now wish shoes I'm 61 everybody's freaked out by it on the basis of what is called leg lengthening you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu Whenever Wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed here in London in Buffalo yaldi Texas Edinburgh Scotland reporting from Rolling Fork Mississippi Ukrainian refugees here in warong we're he
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here wild crime Blood Mountain now streaming only on Hulu it's lunchtime in America so what are we serving up well how about everything you need to know you know that sounds pretty good your health your money breaking news pop culture with the biggest Stars music Trends and of course good food GMA 3 what you need need to know a third hour of GMA in the afternoon so join us afternoon for everything you need to know I love [Music] that were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course
not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC a wild end to a police chase in Los Angeles look at this video a speeding Lexus going up to 120 mph slam
med into the center divider on the 405 freeway police arresting the driver say they found a gun and a large amount of cash in the car new crash tests are revealing a potential danger for drivers of electric vehicles researchers say the vehicles like this electric truck here are so heavy they are no match for most guard rails on highways they say the guard rail in this test is the same kind found on thousands of miles of roads and they say it did almost nothing to slow down the truck at only 60 m
es hour now to a nightmare at a ski resort in California harrowing video shows a 16-year-old dangling from a chair lift at a ski resort in California after a apparently slipping on the chair other lift Riders Clinging On to her desperately waiting for help to arrive everyone was yelling chancing together to stop the lift but I could see almost immediately as it left the loading station um like at that point the person was already starting to fall off workers at Mammoth Mountain then setting up a
net beneath her when this happens the girl plunging through that net slamming to the ground she was later taken to the hospital the frightening fall just the latest Scare at a ski resort just last week at Heavenly Mountain resort near Lake Tahoe a woman spent 15 hours trapped inside a gondola hanging in the air all night enduring freezing temperatures a resort executive now saying we have rigorous protocols to ensure our Gondola and chair lifts are fully unloaded each day it is clear there was
a breakdown in those protocols that day as for the girl who fell off the ski lift there is no word this morning on the extent of her injuries the FDA is warning people not to use what it calls copycat eye drops because they could be contaminated the imitations are easily mistaken for Bosch and Lam's Luma ey drops which are approved by the FDA the brands in question include South Moon and rebite which use virtually identical packaging and do not have government approval coming up Travis Kelce ope
ns up about Taylor Swift and the moment that made him blush plus the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X exonerated tonight after the series premiere of MKX on ABC tonight the US planed to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turned to the most watch newscast on television
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m Gio Bonitas wherever the story is we'll take you there you're screaming ABC News [Music] live time to check the pulse we begin with Travis Kelce opening up about his relationship with uh Taylor Swift he sayi news Swift for about a month before she went to her first game back in September on the Pat McAfee show yesterday Kelsey he said his relationship with Swift has been a crazy ride he never anticipated Travis is phenomenal in football this gu everything that we would like be a football playe
r and he's in love he's a great guy Guy's in Love I think every that's why everybody's coming back I think you were hated for it's a beautiful thing isn't it and and hopefully everybody realizes that uh we're just uh we're two people in a relationship supporting each other and having fun with it man it's it's nothing more than that and uh how how much the world wants to paint the paint the picture and make us the enemy um we just have fun with it Kelsey said when it comes to the haters they igno
re them meanwhile quarterback Patrick Mahomes is responding to claims that he's got a dad bod the comments came after photos of a shirtless Mahomes were posted online after Sunday's win Mahomes responded yo why do they have to do me like that and he said like I got kids leave the man alone and from football to college hoops Caitlyn Clark just added to her growing list of achievements the Iowa hawkey scor 35 points last night now moving her into second place on the women's all-time scoring list a
nd this shows what a star Clark is a rare Trading Card of hers sold for 78,000 bucks next a shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day maybe not in punwani but a town in New Jersey has been forced to cancel its February 2nd event it's longtime groundhog Mel died a few years ago and organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly impossible they say they've called Wildlife Center zoos exotic breeders they've had no luck state regulations have only added to the challenges finally a different ki
nd of porch pirate aasum was caught on video wandering onto this Fortune Texas to steal a box of cookies delivered for a teenager's birthday party an impossible that he left the balloon and the icing [Music] possible it's lunch time in America so what are we serving up well how about everything you need to know you know that's sounds sounds pretty good your health your money breaking news pop culture with the biggest Stars music Trends and of course good food GMA 3 what you need to know a third
hour of GMA in the afternoon so join us afternoon for everything you need to know I love that why do so many people start their day here from ABC News this is start here to be in the know and get a take on the day's top stories a lot of news today so let's get into it listen now to the Daily News podcast honored with for Edward R meral Awards and see why the New York Times calls it a news podcast worth listening to start here ABC News make it your daily first listen now that's a part of the stor
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s tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you tall right we bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery as a man it's like man I wish I was taller we see men who are taller as the alpha I went from 5'9 right now with shoes I'm 61 everybody's freaked out by it on the basis of what is called leg lengthen you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu checking more top stories now at least three people were kil
led in boy Idaho when a building collapsed it was a private company's hanger that was being built on the grounds of the city's airport five other people were critically injured Troopers in Washington state are beefing up patrols after seven Highway shootings in recent weeks the most recent was last night outside of Seattle police are searching for two suspects thankfully no injuries have been reported so far the CDC reports the number of premature births in the US has jumped by 12% in recent yea
rs factors include higher rates of obesity diabetes and high blood pressure and more women having babies later in life today's weather Heavy Rain along the west coast flooding and mudslides possible in Southern California 2 feet of snow in the Rockies more record high temperatures in the midwest finally the Hospital volunteer celebrating his 102nd birthday he spoke to our Danny new happy birthday to you not many people celebrate their 102nd birthday at work how'd that make you feel when when you
saw everybody pry old I just want to thank you for all your years of service well technically herb Norman of Springfield Massachusetts does not work at Bay State Medical Center but at 33 years in counting he is the hospital's longest serving volunteer I love being with people I I'm a people's person and it makes night day it makes their day also for more than three decades whenever someone comes into the lobby sometimes you know not in the greatest mood it's herb who is there waiting to help th
em some of them come in frightened they don't come in anyway so they get together they talk it over and uh things works that okay now herb came to Massachusetts back in 1947 after spending four years in the air force during World War II and what kind of colored man are you he still remembers serving in a segregated unit and the day that President Harry Truman finally put an end to that division President Truman she says you know we have only one country that's the United States that's one of the
best things have ever happened almost 80 years later herb is still working to serve our country and help his community although I should mention he does at least take a summer break he takes the summer off to uh grow tomatoes in his backyard that is the cutest thing I've ever been told in my life we were supposed to go to lunch but after the summer and spending some time with his family and great grandchildren herb always comes back to pitch in that's one of the best things I would advise get o
ut and help someone and can't help himself is going to take that much to do that for the record guys I did ask herb the secret to reaching 102 and he said he always cut down on the red meat so Andrew I don't like our odds oh thank you for your service and a very happy birthday herb that's what's making news in America this morning have a fantastic day [Music] everyone right now on America this morning a deadly building collaps an airplane hanger crashing to the ground at this airport in Boise Id
aho the death toll overnight and what we've learned about the work being done at the time an urgent warning from the director of the FBI cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety how he says China may try to attack our water supply and power grid to quote wreak havoc Tech CEOs grilled on Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to protect kids from abuse and drugs the remarkable moment when Mark Zuckerberg apologized and what comes next in t
he fight to hold social media companies more responsible risk on the road new crash tests raising concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails dramatic moment a girl falls from the ski lift plunging to the ground we hear from Witnesses a new alert from the FDA about so-called copy cat eye drops that could be contaminated Travis Kelce opens up what he's now revealing about his relationship with Taylor Swift and the one moment that made him blush and later the shortage of
groundhogs for Groundhog Day from ABC news in New York this is America this morning good Thursday morning everyone I'm ran and Ali and I'm Andrew dibert we begin with a deadly building collapse the building was under construction on the grounds of Airport overnight police were combing the scene for Clues as to what could have happened this morning authorities are investigating what caused a building under construction to suddenly collapse at the airport in Boise Idaho killing three people and i
njuring at least nine others I currently have three people trapped in elevated in the Genies two of those are currently unresponsive the structure being built was an airplane hanger authorities say a crane was placing something on the steel framework when it collapsed I can tell you that it was a pretty Global collapse that occurred to the main structural members uh came down was fairly catastrophic a man who works at the airport says at the time he was recording planes landing in Gusty winds th
e structure and the crane seen in this video minutes before the collapse investigators overnight said it's unclear exactly what caused the hanger to come crashing down an airport spokesperson says while the hanger is on Airport property it was being built by a private company which says dozens of workers were on site adding their hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event at least five of those victims were in critical condition overnight a new warning about us National Security a
nd the danger posed by China the FBI director told Congress yesterday that China is looking to wreak havoc by using cyber attacks to Target us Water and Power Systems and that's not all he warning about ABC's Andrea Fuji has more China's multipronged assault on our national and economic security make it the defining threat of Our Generation a stark new warning from us intelligence leaders about the Cyber threat posed by China let's be clear cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent
real world threats to our physical safety FBI director Christopher Ray and other officials warn war in lawmakers that the country's Transportation Systems water treatment plants and electrical grids are vulnerable to hackers working on behalf of the Chinese government telecommunications going down so people can't use their cell phone people start getting sick from polluted water trains get derailed air traffic control system po Port control systems are malfunctioning this is truly an everything
everywhere all at once scenario the justice department has revealed recently dismantled a Chinese hacking group called volt typhoon that hijacked hundreds of home and small business routers to Target infrastructure former White House cyber response Chief Jeff Green says China is looking to create chaos the goal of these intrusions is largely to create that societal panic and we need to make sure that we are prepared not to panic we take the power away from our adversaries when we can take a punc
h roll with it and move forward director Ray says China's hackers outnumber FBI cyber Personnel 50 to one he wants more funding to fight the threat but experts say the American people can also do their part these intrusions are happening because of fundamental flaws in devices that these critical infrastructure services are using so you as an individual can't do a lot to protect the critical infrastructure but you can help protect prepare yourself when President Biden and Chinese president shei
met back in November M she assured Biden China would not interfere in the upcoming presidential election FBI director Christopher Ray testified he will believe that when he sees it Andrew ranan all right Andrea thank you a new air strike in the Middle East the Pentagon says US forces targeted a drone base used by Irani in backed rebels in Yemen to attack ships in the Red Sea a US warship yesterday shot down a missile and three attack drones in one hour and a missile came within a mile of the USS
Gravely the closest encounter since the rebels began the attacks in October in support of hamas's war against Israel meanwhile the White House is blaming an umbrella group of Irani and backed fighters in Iraq for the Drone attack that killed three US soldiers in Jordan Sunday the looming us response could play out over a period of weeks targeting Iranian assets in neighboring countries a big decision on Capitol Hill affecting your taxes in a rare moment of bipartisanship Democrats joined Republ
icans as the house passed a $78 billion tax bill last night it would give low-income families about $700 in child tax benefits and it would restore some tax breaks for businesses including full deductions for things like new equipment but the bill still needs to pass the Senate where it faces an uncertain future the CEOs of Tik Tock Instagram and other big tech companies were grilled on Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to protect the mental health of kids on social media families who los
t children to SU side were among those in the audience apologies were made but will it lead to any new laws in the face of powerful lobbying groups ABC's M win is here now with more M good morning Ranna good morning yes Senators compare the tech companies to Big tobacco claiming they prioritize profits over the well-being of children you have a product you have a product that's killing people the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday accused the chief Executives of meta X Tik Tok snap and Discord
of failing to protect kids who use their platforms grieving families packed the hearing room holding up images of their children they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media Mr Zuckerberg you and the companies before us I know you don't mean it to be so but you have blood on your hands meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was especially singled out Senator Josh Holly called on the Facebook founder to directly apologize to the families show them the pictures would you like to apologize for
what you've done to these good [Applause] people to go through the things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so much and are going to continue doing industry leag efforts to uh to make sure that no one has to go through the types of things that your families have to suff Evan Spiegel the chief executive of snap also apologized after lawmakers pressed him on the issue of drugs being sold on Snapchat I'm so sorry that we have not been able to prevent these tragedies
the executives emphasized their parents themselves and they highlighted new tools on their platforms that protect kids from illegal content a commitment is ongoing and unwavering because there is no Finish Line when it comes to protecting teens according to a meta spokesperson the company in recent months removed 990,000 account for potentially suspicious behavior and disabled more than 2.6 million accounts for violating the company's child sexual exploitation policies the senate committee says
it hopes the hearing will build momentum for legislation aimed at boosting privacy and parental controls for children but not all the executives support that legislation only two of the five Executives the CEOs of X forly known as Twitter and snap are promising to support bipartisan legislation that would make these companies companies more liable for harmful content on their platforms notably Mark Zuckerberg and the CEO of Tik Tok did not Zuckerberg said a law requiring social media platforms
to check the age of users would be trivial instead he said that responsibility should fall on App Store providers such as Apple and Google Congress has been trying to regulate social media for years but is yet to pass a law Andrew all right M thank you turning to the weather now the storm's hitting the West coasts are bringing heavy winds to California cars had to dodge tumble weeds here in central California but the big story today is a risk for flooding around Los Angeles with that let's check
your Thursday forecast good morning a powerful Pacific storm the first that we're going to see in a series of these into next week is moving through California we have a nasty nasty morning commute in Los Angeles if you can still adjust that schedule you're going to leave some extra time or need some extra time uh and be in better shape after accounting for the rain in La feet of snow into the Sierra this moves into the Four Corners region with heavy Mountain snow through tonight moving in thro
ugh the Great Basin and ultimately this will also produce some strong thunderstorms Friday night in a Texas I'm aie witha meteorologist Jeff Cornish coming up a bizarre site along the road in Florida grizzly bears from Alaska will explain also ahead the text messages revealed the trial of the Michigan mom whose son was behind a deadly school shooting and later a ski lift nightmare why a teenager went plunging to the ground at this Resort first thing in the morning there's a lot going on get anot
her Avalanche warning that's up to catch you up with what happened overnight a dangerous ice storm is impacting the morning commute what's happening today escalating tensions in the Middle East what people are talking about the migrant crisis fast straightforward with some fun in between how does billionaire sound sounds good to me the Moose started chasing a dog first thing in the morning America this morning America's number one early morning news on ABC News live me with them good vies on myo
ne everything so little bit of sun just a little bit breathing more just a little bit smile little more and I'm in with ah ah ah been running through the strange pictures on my phone like everything is so little bit of [Music] sun Good Morning America Whenever Wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed here in London in Buffalo yaldi Texas Edinburough Scotland reporting from Rolling Fork Mississippi Ukrainian refugee here in warong we're heading to a small c
ommunity outside of Mexico City getting you behind the stories as they happen ABC News live Prime we'll take you there stream ABC News live week nights wherever you stream your news only on ABC News live why do so many people start their day here from ABC News this is start here to be in the know and get a different take on the day's top stories a lot of news today so let's get into it listen now to the Daily News podcast honored with four Edward R ml Awards and see why the New York Times calls
it a news podcast worth listening to start here ABC News make it your daily first listen now that's a part of the story I bet you didn't see coming wherever you get your podcasts start here reporting from a record setting snowy Buffalo I'm Trevor alt wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News live an unusual encounter in Florida they look like Grizzlies but a pair of Kodiak bear cubs native to Alaska were calmly approaching cars in the Florida Panhandle they grow bigger
than Grizzlies turns out they had escaped from the home of a local bear trainer just a little curious there Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the Russ movie set his plea avoids an arraignment that was scheduled for today meanwhile new details about the film's weapon supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other charges court documents Show members of the Russ crew were concerned about Hannah Gutierrez Reeds alleged drug and alco
hol use during filming prosecutors say evidence shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first began working on the movie that is a claim she has denied now to the trial of a Michigan mother whose son was behind a deadly school shooting in 2021 the case against her now centering on text messages revealed in court new evidence in the trial of Jennifer crumbly she's charged with involuntary manslaughter accused of disregarding the risks posed by her son Ethan before he fatally shot fou
r students at his Michigan High School body camera video played in court shows authorities storming a Detroit Warehouse where Crumbley and Ethan's father were allegedly hiding police with guns drawn found the crumbl Apparently asleep with more than $6,000 in cash I see two people laying on a mattress um if I'm not mistaken they're facing each other jurors also heard yesterday from a man first identified as Jennifer crumb's high school friend Brian malat during questioning it was revealed he and
Crumbley had been having an affair malach saying on the morning of the shooting Jennifer texted him worried her son was going to do something dumb he also testified crumblyy was able to leave work to meet with him on the day of the shooting despite crumblyy allegedly telling the school that she could not take her son home for mental health care because she was needed at work did she ever tell you um that she didn't have to be at a meeting later in the day on November the 30th 2021 in fact she wa
s able to leave work to meet you when it pleased her yes prosecutors say other text messages reveal Jennifer Crumbley wrote the shooting could have been prevented but the defense argues she wasn't aware how much her son was struggling and says the school could have done more to help him another text message reveals crumbly said I failed as a parent I failed miserably she could take the stand before the end of the trial coming up there's a new warning out about contaminated ey drop also ahead cra
sh tests rais new concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails with so much at stake so much on the line more Americans turn here than any other newscast ABC News World News Tonight with David mure America's number one most watched newscast across all of [Music] [Applause] television I love it give it come it all the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we'll bring you behind the scenes of the
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e week nights wherever you stream your news only on ABC News live a wild end to a police chase in Los Angeles look at this video a speeding Lexus going up to 120 mph slammed into the center divider on the 405 freeway police arresting the driver say they found a gun and a large amount of cash in the car new crash tests are revealing a potential danger for drivers of electric vehicles researchers say the vehicles like this electric truck here are so heavy they are no match for most guard rails on
highways they say the guard rail in this test is the same kind found on thousands of miles of roads and they say it did almost nothing to slow down the truck at only 60 MPH now to a nightmare at a ski resort in California harrowing video shows a 16-year-old dangling from a chair lift at a ski resort in California after apparently slipping on the chair other lift Riders Clinging On to her desperately waiting for help to arrive everyone was yelling chanting together to stop the lift but I could se
e almost immediately as it left the loading station um like at that point the person was already starting to fall off workers at Mammoth Mountain then setting up a net beneath her when this happens the girl plunging through that net slamming to the ground she was later taken to the hospital the frightening fall just the latest Scare at a ski resort just last week at Heavenly Mountain resort near Lake Tahoe a woman spent 15 hours trapped inside a gondola hanging in the air all night enduring free
zing temperatures a resort executive now saying we have rigorous protocols to ensure our Gondola and chair lifts are fully unloaded each day it is clear there was a breakdown in those protocols that day as for the girl who fell off the ski lift there is no word this morning on the extent of her injuries the FDA is warning people not to use what it calls copycat eye drops because they could be contaminated the imitations are easily mistaken for Bosch and Lam's lumify eye drops which are approved
by the FDA the brands in question include South Moon and rebite which use virtually identical packaging and do not have government approval coming up Travis Kelce opens up about Taylor Swift and the moment that made him blush plus the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day it's lunchtime in America so what are we serving up well how about everything you need to know you know that sounds pretty good your health your money breaking news pop culture with the biggest Stars music Trends and of cour
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ream ABC News live week nights wherever you stream your news only on ABC News live with so much at stake so much on the line more Americans turn here than any other newscast ABC News World News Tonight with David mure America's number one most watched newscast across all of Television were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X exonerated tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC reporting
from the scene of the Monterey Park mass shooting I'm Juju Chang wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News [Music] live time to check the pulse we begin with Travis Kelce opening up about his relationship with uh Taylor Swift he says he knew Swift for about a month before she went to her first game back in sep September on the Pat McAfee show yesterday Kelsey said his relationship with Swift has been a crazy ride he never anticipated Travis is phenomenal at football t
his guy's everything that we would like be a football player and he's in love he's a great guy guys's in love I think every that's why everybody's coming back I think you were hated for a it's a beautiful thing isn't it and then hopefully everybody realizes that uh we're just uh we're two people in a relationship uh supporting each other and having fun with it man it's it's nothing more than that and uh how how much the world wants to paint the paint the picture and make us the enemy um we just
have fun with it KY said when it comes to the haters they ignore them meanwhile quarterback Patrick Mahomes is responding to claims that he's got a dad bod the comments came after photos of a shirtless Mahomes were posted online after Sunday's win Mahomes responded yo why do they have to do me like that and he said like I got kids leave the man alone and from football to college hoops Caitlyn Clark just added to her growing list of achievements the Iowa Hawkeye scored 35 points last night now mo
ving her into second place on the women's all-time scoring list and this shows what a star Clark is a rare Trading Card of hers sold for 78,000 bucks next a shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day maybe not in punani but a town in New Jersey has been forced to cancel its February 2nd event it's long time groundhog Mel died a few years ago and organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly possible they say they've called Wildlife centers zoos exotic breeders they've had no luck state regu
lations have only added to the challenges finally a different kind of porch pirate a possum was caught on video wandering onto this porch in Texas to steal a box of cookies delivered for a teenager's birthday party an impossible that he left the balloon and the icing [Music] possible first thing in the morning there's a lot going on got another Avalanche War that's up to catch you up with what happened overnight a dangerous ice storm is impacting the morning commutant what's happening today esca
lating tensions in the Middle East what people are talking about the migrant crisis fast straightforward with some fun in between how does billionaire sound sounds good to me the Moose started chasing a dog first thing in the morning America this morning America's number one early morning news on ABC News [Music] [Applause] [Music] live I love it give it it why do so many people start their day here from ABC News this is start here to be in the know and get a different take on the day's top stor
ies a lot of news today so let's get into it listen now to the Daily News podcast honored with four Edward R murl Awards and see why the New York Times calls it a news podcast worth listening to start here ABC News make it your daily first listen now that's a part of the story I bet you didn't see coming wherever you get your podcasts start here wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed getting you behind the stories as they happened ABC News live Prime we'
ll take you there streaming free on ABC News live all right here we go you ready let's do it yes it's the show America wants and America needs right now this is what would you do let's go how are you I H you so what will you be watching Saturdays on ABC News live what would you do hey I guess I just found out the what would you do marathon 2 to 6 Eastern every Saturday on ABC News live my favorite show checking more top stories now at least three people were killed in Boise Idaho when a building
collapsed it was a private company's hanger that was being built on the grounds of the city's airport five other people were critically injured Troopers in Washington state are beefing up patrols after seven Highway shootings in recent weeks the most recent was last night outside of Seattle police are searching for two suspects thankfully no injuries have been reported so far the CBC reports the number of premature births in the US has jumped by 12% in recent years factors include higher rates
of obesity diabetes and high blood pressure and more women having babies later in life today's weather Heavy Rain along the west coast flooding and mudslides possible in Southern California 2et of snow in the Rockies more record high temperatures in the midwest finally the Hospital volunteer celebrating his 102nd birthday he spoke to our Danny new happy birthday to you not many people celebrate their 102nd birthday day at work how'd that make you feel when when you saw everybody pretty old I jus
t want to thank you for all your years of service well technically herb Norman of Springfield Massachusetts does not work at Bay State Medical Center but at 33 years and counting he is the hospital's longest serving volunteer well I love being with people I I'm a people's person and it makes my day to makes that day also for more than three decades whenever someone comes into the lobby sometimes you know not in the greatest mood it's herb who is there waiting to help them some of them come in Fr
ight and they don't come in anyway so we get together they talk it over and uh things work that okay now herb came to Massachusetts back in 1947 after spending four years in the air force during World War I and what kind of colored man are you he still remembers serving in a segregated unit and the day that President Harry Truman finally put an end to that division President Truman she says you know we have only one country United States that's one of the best things have ever happened almost 80
years later herb is still working to serve our country and help his community although I should mention he does at least take a summer break he takes the summer off to uh grow tomatoes in his backyard that is the cutest thing I've ever been told in my life we were suppos to go a lunch but after the summer and spending some time with his family and great grandchildren herb always comes back to pitch in that's one of the best thing that advice get out and help someone who can't help thems it's go
ing to take that much to do that for the record guys I did ask her of the secret to reaching 102 and he said he always cut down on the red meat so Andrew I don't like our odds oh thank you for your service and a very happy birthday to Herb that's what's making news in America this morning have a fantastic day everyone [Music] right now on America this morning a deadly building collapse an airplane hanger crashing to the ground at this airport in Boise Idaho the death toll overnight and what we'v
e learned about the work being done at the time an urgent warning from the director of the FBI cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety how he says China may try to attack our water supply and power grid to quote wreak havoc Tech CEOs grilled on Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to protect kids from abuse and drugs the remarkable moment when Mark Zuckerberg apologized and what comes next in the fight to hold social media companies mo
re responsible risk on the road new crash tests raising concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails dramatic moment a girl falls from the ski lift plunging to the ground we hear from Witnesses a new alert from the FDA about so-called copycat eye drops that could be contaminated Travis Kelce opens up what he's now revealing about his relationship with Taylor Swift and the one moment that made him blush and later the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day from ABC news
in New York this is America this morning good Thursday morning everyone I'm ran Ali and I'm Andrew Denberg we begin with a deadly building collapse the building was under construction on the grounds of an Airport overnight police were combing the scene for Clues as to what could have happened this morning authorities are investigating what caused a building under construction to suddenly collapse at the airport in Boise Idaho killing three people and injuring at least nine others I currently ha
ve three people trapped in elevated in the gen two of those are currently unresponsive the structure being built was an airplane hanger authorities say a crane was placing something on the steel framework when it collapsed I can tell you that it was a pretty Global collapse that occurred to the main structural members uh came down was fairly catastrophic a man who works at the airport says at the time he was recording planes landing in Gusty winds the structure and the crane seen in this video m
inutes before the collapse investigators overnight said it's unclear exactly what caused the hanger to come Crashing Down an airport spokesperson says while the hanger is on Airport property it was being built by a private company which says dozens of workers were on site adding their hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event at least five of those victims were in critical condition overnight a new warning about us National Security and the danger posed by China the FBI director
told Congress yesterday that China is looking to wreak havoc by using cyber attacks to Target us Water and Power Systems and that's not all he's warning about ABC's Andrea Fuji has more China's multipronged assault on our national and economic security make it the defining threat of Our Generation a stark new warning from us intelligence leaders about the Cyber threat posed by China let's be clear cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety f
director Christopher Ray and other officials warning lawmakers that the country's Transportation Systems water treatment plants and electrical grids are vulnerable to hackers working on behalf of the Chinese government telecommunications going down so people can't use their cell phone people start getting sick from polluted water trains get derailed air traffic control system po Port control systems are malfunctioning this is truly an everything everywhere all at once scenario Ario the justice d
epartment has revealed it recently dismantled a Chinese hacking group called volt typhoon that hijacked hundreds of home and small business routers to Target infrastructure former White House cyber response Chief Jeff Green says China is looking to create chaos the goal of these intrusions is largely to create that societal panic and we need to make sure that we are prepared not to panic we take the power away from our adversaries when we can take a punch roll with it and move forward director R
ay says China's hackers outnumber FBI cyber Personnel 50 to one he wants more funding to fight the threat but experts say the American people can also do their part these intrusions are happening because of fundamental flaws in devices that these critical infrastructure services are using so you as an individual can't do a lot to protect the critical infrastructure but you can help protect prepare yourself when President Biden and Chinese president shei met back in November she assured Biden Chi
na would not interfere in the upcoming presidential election FBI director Christopher Ray testified he will believe that when he sees it Andrew ranan all right Andrea thank you a new air strike in the Middle East the Pentagon says US forces targeted a drone base used by Irani and backed rebels in Yemen to attack ships in the Red Sea a US warship yesterday shot down a missile and three attack drones in one hour and a missile came within a mile of the USS Gravely the closest encounter since the re
bels began the attacks in October in support of hamas's war against Israel meanwhile the White House is blaming an umbrella group of Iranian backed fighters in Iraq for the Drone attack that killed three US soldiers in Jordan Sunday the looming us response could play out over a period of weeks targeting Iranian assets in neighboring countries a big decision on Capitol Hill affecting your taxes in a rare moment of bipartisanship Democrats joined Republicans as the house passed a $78 billion tax b
ill last night it would give low-income families about $700 in child tax benefits and it would restore some tax breaks for businesses including full deductions for things like new equipment but the bill still needs to pass the Senate where it faces an uncertain future the CEOs of Tik Tock Instagram and other big tech companies were grilled on Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to protect the mental health of kids on social media Med families who lost children to Suicide were among those in
the audience apologies were made but will it lead to any new laws in the face of powerful lobbying groups ABC's M win is here now with more M good morning ranan good morning yes Senators compare the tech companies to Big tobacco claiming they prioritize profits over the well-being of children you have a product you have a product that's killing people the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday accused the chief Executives of meta X Tik Tok snap and Discord of failing to protect kids who use their
platforms grieving families packed the hearing room holding up images of their children they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media Mr Zuckerberg you and the companies before us I know you don't mean to it to be so but you have blood on your hands meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was especially singled out Senator Josh Holly called on the Facebook founder to directly apologize to the families show them the pictures would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good [Appla
use] people things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so much and are going to continue doing industry leading efforts to to make sure that no one has to go through thep of things that your families have to suff EV Spiegel the chief executive of snap also apologized after lawmakers pressed him on the issue of drugs being sold on Snapchat I'm so sorry that we have not been able to prevent these tragedies the executives emphasized their parents themselves and they hi
ghlighted new tools on their platforms that protect kids from illegal content a commitment is ongoing and unwavering because there is no Finish Line when it comes to protecting teens according to a meta spokesperson the company recent months removed 990,000 accounts for potentially suspicious behavior and disabled more than 2.6 million accounts for violating the company's child sexual exploitation policies the senate committee says it hopes the hearing will build momentum for legislation aimed a
t boosting privacy and parental controls for children but not all the executives support that legislation only two of the five Executives the CEOs of X forly known as Twitter and snap are promising to support bipartisan legislation that would make these companies more liable for harmful content on their platforms notably Mark Zuckerberg and the CEO of Tik talk did not Zuckerberg said a law requiring social media platforms to check the age of users would be trivial instead he said that responsibi
lity should fall on App Store providers such as Apple and Google Congress has been trying to regulate social media for years but is yet to pass a law Andrew right M thank you turning to the weather now the storms hitting the West Coast are bringing heavy winds to California cars had to dodge tumble weeds here in central California but the big story today is a risk for flooding around Los Angeles with that let's check your Thursday forecast good morning a powerful Pacific storm the first that we'
re going to see in a series of these into next week is moving through California we have a nasty nasty morning commute in in Los Angeles if you can still adjust that schedule you're going to leave some extra time or need some extra time uh and be in better shape after accounting for the rain in La feet of snow into the Sierra this moves into the Four Corners region with heavy Mountain snow through tonight moving in through the Great Basin and ultimately this will also produce some strong thunder
storms Friday night into Texas I'm a you witha meteorologist Jeff Cornish coming up a bizarre site along the road in Florida grizzly bears from Alaska will explain also ahead the text messages revealed at the trial of the Michigan mom whose son was behind a deadly school shooting and later a ski lift nightmare why a teenager went plunging to the ground at this Resort whenever news breaks we are here in Israel a nation at war after that brutal surprise attack by Hamas on the ground in Ukraine rep
orting from Leon Maine the scene of a horrific Mass shooting ABC News live is right there everywhere from the scene of that deadly missile strike in Dena Ukraine reporting from the earthquake in Turkey in Rolling Fort This Tornado tore through this little town from the most devastating disaster in Hawaii from Charleston South Carolina on the 2024 campaign Trail in Iceland let's go traveling with the president in Mexico City wherever the story from the front lines from Southern Israel outside the
Gaza Strip in Beirut from the FBI reporting from the nurses on the pick line here at 10 Downing Street in London streaming live to you wherever the story is wherever the story is wherever the story is we're going to take you there you're streaming ABC News live ABC News live you're streaming ABC News live ABC news live streaming free everywhere America's number one streaming news it's lunchtime in America so what are we serving up well how about everything you need to know you know that sounds
pretty good to your health your money breaking news pop culture with the biggest Stars music Trends and of course good food GMA 3 what you need to know a third hour of GMA in the afternoon so join us afternoon for everything you need to know I love that the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we're bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery feel as a man it's like man I wish I was taller we see men who
are taller as the alpha I went from 5'9 right now wish shoes I'm 6'1 everybody's freaked out by it on the basis of what is called leg lengthening you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu from America's number one news comes the all new ABC News app if you love being in the know you're going to love this experience the allnew ABC News app download it now an unusual encounter in Florida they look like Grizzlies but a pair of Kodiak bear cubs native to
Alaska were calmly approaching cars in the Florida Panhandle they grow bigger than Grizzlies turns out they had escaped from the home of a local bear trainer just a little curious there Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the Russ movie set his plea avoids an arraignment that was scheduled for today meanwhile new details about the film's weapon supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other charges core documents Show members of the
Russ crew were concerned about Hannah Gutierrez Reeds alleged drug and alcohol use during filming prosecutors say evidence shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first began working on the movie that is a claim she has denied now to the trial of a Michigan mother whose son was behind a deadly school shooting in 2021 the case against her now centering on text messages revealed in court new evidence in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley she's charged with involuntary manslaughter accuse
d of disregarding the risks posed by her son Ethan before he fatally shot four students at his Michigan High School body camera video played in court shows authorities storming a Detroit Warehouse where Crumbley and Ethan's father were allegedly hiding police with guns drawn found that crumble is apparently asleep with more than $6,000 in cash I see two people laying on a mattress um if I'm not mistaken they're facing each other jur also heard yesterday from a man first identified as Jennifer cr
umb's high school friend Brian malat during questioning it was revealed he and Crumbley had been having an affair malat saying on the morning of the shooting Jennifer texted him worried her son was going to do something dumb he also testified crumbly was able to leave work to meet with him on the day of the shooting despite crumblyy allegedly telling the school that she could not take her son home for mental health care because she was needed at work did she ever tell you um that she didn't have
have to be at a meeting later in the day on November the 30th 2021 in fact she was able to leave work to meet you when it pleased her yes prosecutors say other text messages revealed Jennifer Crumbley wrote the shooting could have been prevented but the defense argues she wasn't aware how much her son was struggling and says the school could have done more to help him another text message reveals crumbly said I failed as a parent I failed miserably she could take the stand before the end of the
trial coming up there's a new warning out about contaminated ey drops also ahead crash tests rais new concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails whenever news breaks we are here in Israel a nation at war after that brutal surprise attack by Hamas on the ground in Ukraine reporting from Leon Maine the scene of a horrific mass shooting ABC News live is right there everywhere from the scene of that deadly missile strike Den Ukraine reporting from the earthquake in Turke
y in Rolling Fort This Tornado tore through this little town from the most devastating disaster in Hawaii from Charleston South Carolina on the 2024 campaign Trail in Iceland let's go traveling with the president in Mexico City wherever the story from the front lines from Southern Israel outside the Gaza Strip in Beirut from the FBI reporting from the nurses on the picket line here at 10 Downing Street in London streaming live to you wherever the story is wherever the story is wherever the story
is we're going to take you there you're streaming ABC News live ABC News live you're streaming ABC News live ABC news live streaming free everywhere America's number one streaming news it's lunchtime in America so what are we serving up well how about everything you need to know you know that sounds pretty good your heal your money breaking news pop culture with the biggest Stars music Trends and the of course good food GMA 3 what you need to know a third hour of GMA in the afternoon so join us
afternoon for everything you need to know I love [Music] that were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world all is listening now tonight after the series
premiere of MLK X on ABC all right here we go you ready let's do it yes it's the show America wants and America needs right now this is what would you do let's go how are you H you yes so what will you be watching Saturdays on ABC News live what would you do hey I guess I just found out the what would you do marathon 2 to 6 Eastern every Saturday on ABC News live my favorite show a wild end to a police chase in Los Angeles look at this video a speeding Lexus going up to 120 mph slammed into the
center divider on the 405 freeway police arresting the driver say they found a gun and a large amount of cash in the car new crash tests are revealing a potential danger for drivers of electric vehicles researchers say the vehicles like this electric truck here are so heavy they are no match for most guard rails on highways they say the guard rail in this test is the same kind found on thousands of miles of roads and they say it did almost nothing to slow down the truck at only 60 MPH now to a n
ightmare at a ski resort in California harrowing vide shows a 16-year-old dangling from a chairlift at a ski resort in California after apparently slipping on the chair other lift riters Clinging On to her desperately waiting for help to arrive everyone was yelling chanting together to stop the lift but I could see almost immediately as it left the loading station um like at that point the person was already starting to fall off workers at Mammoth Mountain then setting up a net beneath her when
this happens the girl plunging through through that net slamming to the ground she was later taken to the hospital the frightening fall just the latest Scare at a ski resort just last week at Heavenly Mountain resort near Lake Tahoe a woman spent 15 hours trapped inside a gondola hanging in the air all night enduring freezing temperatures a resort executive now saying we have rigorous protocols to ensure our Gondola and chair lifts are fully unloaded each day it is clear there was a breakdown in
those protocol s that day as for the girl who fell off the ski lift there is no word this morning on the extent of her injuries the FDA is warning people not to use what it calls copycat eye drops because they could be contaminated the imitations are easily mistaken for Bosch and Lam's lumify ey drops which are approved by the FDA the brands in question include South Moon and rebite which use virtually identical packaging and do not have government approval coming up Travis Kelce opens up about
Taylor Swift and the moment that made him blush plus the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day all right here we go you ready let's do it yes it's the show America wants and America needs right now this is what would you do let's go how are you I hug you yes so what will you be watching Saturdays on ABC News live what would you do hey I guess I just found out [Music] the what would you do marathon 2 to 6 Eastern every Saturday on ABC News live my with so much at stake so much on the line mor
e Americans turn here than any other newscast ABC News World News Tonight with David mure America's number one most watched newscast across all of television from America's number one news comes the allnew ABC News app breaking news Incredible video faster smarter and customizable to your interests if you love being in the no you're going to love this experience the allnew ABC News app download it now it's lunchtime in America so what are we serving up well how about everything you need to know
you know that sounds pretty good your health your money breaking news pop culture with the biggest Stars music Trends and of course good food GMA three what you need to know a third hour of GMA in the afternoon so join us afternoon for everything you need to know I love [Music] that inside that pen is a slice of human brain I've never seen a place like this in my life oh my god [Music] wow wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed getting you behind the sto
ries as they happen ABC News live Prime we'll take you there streaming free on ABC News live reporting on the flooded streets of Treasure Island I'm Ginger Z wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming AB [Music] live time to check the pulse we begin with Travis Kelsey opening up about his relationship with uh Taylor Swift he's something news Swift for about a month before she went to her first game back in September on the Pat McAfee show yesterday Kelsey said his relationship w
ith Swift has been a crazy ride he never anticipated Travis is phenomenal at football this gu everything that we would like be a football player and he's in love he's a great guy Guy's in Love I think every that's why everybody's coming back I think you were hated for a b it's a beautiful thing isn't it and then hopefully everybody realized that uh we're just uh we're two people in a relationship supporting each other and having fun with with it man it's it's nothing more than that and uh how ho
w much the world wants to paint the paint the picture and make us the enemy um we just have fun with it Kelsey said when it comes to the haters they ignore them meanwhile quarterback Patrick Mahomes is responding to claims that he's got a dad bod the comments came after photos of a shirtless Mahomes were posted online after Sunday's win Mahomes responded yo why do they have to do me like that and he said like I got kids leave the man alone and from football to col college hoops Caitlyn Clark jus
t added to her growing list of achievements the Iowa Hawkeye scored 35 points last night now moving her into second place on the women's all-time scoring list and this shows what a star Clark is a rare Trading Card of hers sold for 78,000 bucks next a shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day maybe not in punwani but a town in New Jersey has been forced to cancel its February 2nd event it's longtime groundhog Mel died a few years ago organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly impossible
they say they've called Wildlife centers zoos exotic breeders they've had no luck state regulations have only added to the challenges finally a different kind of porch pirate a possum was caught on video wandering onto this Fortune Texas to steal a box of cookies delivered for a teenager's birthday party an impossible the he left the balloon and the ice [Music] aome this is ABC News live the crush of families here in Poland at Refugee centers in Putin's Russia on the ground in Ukraine close to
the front line from the capital destructive Cat 4 stor along I Boston is in the Bulls let's go ABC News live America's number one streaming news anytime anywhere streaming 24/7 straight to you for free thank you for making ABC newsline America's number one streaming news all right here we go you ready let's do it yes it's the show America wants and America needs right now this is what would you do let's go how are you I H you yes so what will you be watching Saturdays on ABC News live what would
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at work how'd that make you feel when when you saw everybody pretty over I just want to thank you for all your years of service well technically herb Norman of Springfield Massachusetts does not work at Bay State Medical Center but at 33 years in counting he is the hospital's longest serving volunteer well I love day with people I am a people's person and it makes night day it makes a day also for more than three decades whenever someone comes into the lobby sometimes you know not in the greates
t mood it's herb who is there waiting to help them some of them come in figh and they don't come in anyway so we get together we talk it over and uh things works that okay now herb came to Massachusetts back in 1947 after spending four years in the air force during World War II and what kind of colored man are you he still remembers serving in a segregated unit and the day that President Harry Truman finally put an end to that division President Truman she said say you know we have only one coun
try that's the United States that's one of the best things have ever happened almost 80 years later herb is still working to serve our country and help his community although I should mention he does at least take a summer break he takes the summer off to uh grow tomatoes in his backyard that is the cutest thing I've ever been told in my life we were supposed to a lunch but after the summer and spending some time with his family and great grandchildren herb always comes back to pitch in that's o
ne of the best things I would advise get out and help someone and can't help themselves is going to take that much to do that there for the record guys I did ask herb the secret to reaching 102 and he said he always cut down on the red meat so Andrew I don't like our odds oh thank you for your service and a very happy birthday to Herb that's what's making news in America this morning have a fantastic day everyone [Music] it's Thursday February 1st it's tough to get a bargain when you're not allo
wed to bargain we start here for the first time in history the American government is about to negotiate for better drug prices negotiating competition that's as America and his apple pie this all gets underway today and the Man In Charge is joining start here to walk us through it Mark Zuckerberg gives parents a meta apology they were thoroughly unimpressed by what they heard from the social media companies fire Emoji eyes emoji this was a contentious Hearing in Washington an Amelia airharts pl
ane was last spotted in 1937 or according to this guy a few weeks ago you got a pencil you want you write it write down the coordinates what deep waterer drones could tell us about the ocean floor from ABC News this is start here I'm Brad milky if you know anything about American healthc care you know that prescription drug prices are out of control it costs $480 a quarter $750 a month out of pocket was like $7,000 like even if your insurance covers the price of a drug the drug itself might stil
l be insanely expensive which means if you don't have insurance or it's not covered under your plan good luck pharmacist will always say you know this is very expensive and I said I know but it's either that or risk having a heart attack well when the inflation reduction Act passed a couple years ago it promised to finally chip away at drug prices by putting one of the biggest buyers in the world the United States government at the bargaining table let's call this for what it is it's simply it's
a ripoff see when you're insurance company says good news your Drug's covered you can go pick it up at your Walgreens that all comes after intensive negotiations about price every now and then the drug company will tell insurers hey these pills are 10 bucks each the insurance company comes back and says well okay but we're sending you tons of patience in bulk how about you give them to us for five bucks a pill remember you never see this haggling you might pay the same either way but it affects
how much insurance cost in the first place it affects the broader Market it's a big impact the weird thing is while Sigma represents 20 million Americans and Etna represents 40 million Americans about 65 million Americans are covered by Medicare alone but until the inflation reduction act the US government had never been able to directly negotiate on those patients behalf the drug company would say this is the price and Medicare could say yes or no that changes starting today under this new law
negotiations are finally underway and we've got the Secretary of Health and Human Services Javier Basera with us this morning secretary Basera thanks for being with us how is this about to work Brad uh you hit it right on the money it's incredible to believe that for 65 million Americans we could not try to get the best price we had it it's one of those take it or leave it the drug company sets the price and lo and behold Americans today pay two or three times more than they probably should for
those prescription drugs that folks around the world are paying so much less for so it is now time and the inflation reduction act as you said now gives us a chance the president fer that law and now we're going to start negotiations we have submitted our offer to the uh nine companies that have the 10 drugs that are the first to be negotiated and we'll have a now now have a chance to have a back and forth in in negotiations what types of drugs are we talking about oh these are drugs that cover
cancer diabetes heart disease it is the types of chronic conditions that you and I know that affect so many Americans and cost us so much these drugs these 10 drugs uh alone cost us the federal government taxpayers $46 billion in 2022 and they cost folks on Medicare who are the ones were getting the drugs about three and a half billion dollar out of their own pocket um and and these are like you said like the 10 sort of most used drugs in the Medicare system what is the timeline for how this ac
tually plays out there like you guys start talking today you sub you submit your offers today then then what happens so the companies have about a month to give us a counter offer we then will uh engage them as well and respond to what they've said but by August the 1 we have to finish the negotiations and have a a price a negotiated price that price will then take into effect the beginning of January 2026 why you mentioned how expensive our drugs are compared to other countries two and Three Ti
mes Higher why is that like can it is it just because the government can't negotiate via Medicare like that's the reason well I think with this way you go into a car dealership to buy a car do you pay the price you see on the sticker right of course you do you go in there saying that's sticker price I know you paid a lot less hey and I also read Consumer Reports I know that you're you're really it only cost you this much and I know that the the actual manufacturer gave you the dealer a further d
iscount the more you sell Etc ET ET so this is the price I'll offer you then of course they go into that back room and they come back and then they offer you a different price you haggle back and forth until you get a price that you're willing to live with and if you say you know I don't like the price I'm gonna go to the dealer down this down the street you know you try to get the best bargain you can we could not do that by law we were restricted now we can do it that's why we think we're goin
g to drive the prices down hey and by the way in any real negotiation like the one you just mentioned you have to be willing to get up and walk away right is that is that the case with drugs though I mean is there a chance that there's going to be a drug no longer covered by Medicare because you guys couldn't agree on a price well see that's the interesting part uh uh up until the passage of the inflation reduction act we didn't have a choice we had to accept the price that those manufacturers p
ut on the drug or we wouldn't have access to it for the the millions of Americans who get Medicare and so now we have a chance to try to negotiate to get the best price and by the way the drug companies aren't forced to negotiate they have a choice if they want to participate in the Medicare program they get to continue to sell the drug to anyone they'd like but if they want to do it through the Medicare program they have to engage in negotiations with us now on these 10 drugs no I get it but if
they but say they're like it's this much and you guys are like well we're not paying that like is there a chance drugs stop getting covered because you guys didn't get the deal you wanted well we believe that by engaging in good faith upfront negotiations we'll settle on a good price okay um who saves money at the end of all this it's not the average consumer right it's not like Uncle Sam's nego I'm not on Medicare Uncle Sam's not negotiating on my behalf I assume Medicare folks would pay the s
ame amount maybe out of pocket like they don't see a sticker price difference is it just so who actually saves money is it taxpayers at large or something so uh directly uh folks who are on Medicare will will benefit by a Medicare being able to negotiate for the best fair price uh on these drugs uh the lower the price is the more that the Medicare program and Med Medicare beneficiaries spend when the Medicare program saves money taxpayers save money because taxpayers help cover the cost of the M
edicare program for Medicare beneficiaries and so at the end of the day all Americans will benefit by having lower costs on drugs under Medicare but remember what happened with insulin insulin which was part of the inflation reduction act uh efforts has now been lowered to $35 at most per month for the insulin that a Medicare beneficiary needs it could have been three or four times that amount before January 1st of this year now that the laws kick kicked in it's only $35 a month guess what the t
he manufacturers of insulin have also now moved to reduce the price of insulin for people who aren't on Medicare for whom the law didn't reach and so I think so it changes the ecosystem kind of it changes the expectation that's right that's right when do you see that happening though when would the average American actually see a difference you think well they're already beginning to see the difference right now on insulin right uh while the price on on these drugs that we're negotiating now won
't actually take effect until the beginning of 2026 uh everyone will see what happens as of August of this year and so we'll see what goes on but there can you know negotiating competition that's as American as apple pie and who would be against you trying to negotiate for the best price for your vehicle that you're going to buy from that dealer who would who would uh argue with that maybe the Pharma companies right they have said that this will uh hurt their their chances to be competitive they
've said it could hurt them having medical breakthroughs they've sued the bid Administration to say that this is unconstitutional I mean what also you've got GOP you've got Republicans saying that this should not be the way the US does business what's your response to that uh you know I used to be the Attorney General in California I'd say that uh the fact that I'm being sued probably means I'm doing something right so so you don't think it's unconstitutional though oh not at all no no no I I I
I look we we see negotiations occurring in the federal government already the Veterans Administration negotiates drug prices already Indian Health Services which is under the Department of Health and Human Services and provides Direct Care and also uh purchases drugs goes through the same process of negotiating for prices this is this is not new and you don't think that hurts the ability to innovate and be competitive and create the next new huge cancer drug that could affect millions of lives t
hat this doesn't actually hinder companies from doing that think of it this way if if we're now negotiating to get the best price there will be companies who know they'll be able to compete with some of the brandname uh Pharma companies who are able to somehow you know muscle everyone out of the market the more competition the more Innovation the more Innovation the better the price for everyone all right that is Secretary of Health and Human Services Javier Basera thank you so much for the expl
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d to know I love [Music] that so many Congressional hearings in this era are one-sided Affairs right the party in charge decides to haul someone in for questioning they blast them while the minority party spends their time defending the witness well yesterday the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing about keeping children safe online Democratic leaders had called in the heads of Tik Tok X formerly Twitter and meta which owns Facebook and Instagram Mark Zuckerberg himself was there and in th
is hearing no one was rushing to these companies defense in fact this is the one Topic in Washington that engenders bipartisan anger let's go to ABC senior White House correspondent Selena Wang Selena Zuckerberg and these other Executives really got a grilling right why they were absolutely slammed by these lawmakers and it was Ed all the all the time these hearings have a lot of political grandstanding there's a lot of scathing criticism this time it was over child exploitation on these interne
t platforms and at the opening of the hearing there were some particularly strong words from Senator Lindsey Graham Mr Zuckerberg you and the companies before us I know you don't mean it to be so but you have blood on your hands you have a product you have a product that's killing people and there's been a growing chorus of frustration from parents who say their children have fallen victim to this kind of exploitation to hold these platforms accountable if they're being held responsible then the
y will correct the problem and they have the ability to so when we talk about exploitation there's many different forms one of the ones that's frequently talked about is sex tortion which is basically a form of blackmail where an offender manipulates this minor to share sexually explicit images of themselves and then threatens to release them to use it against them unless they give them money that's one form another form is bullying another form is what parents have described as their children g
oing online thinking they're buying one thing only to realize it's a drug laced with fentanyl and they pass away from that so there's many different kinds of threats that these children are facing online so there's the Senators Selena but then what I wasn't even expecting was there were parents of children who had been affected by this in the room with these Tech Executives that's what really made this hearing different this is not the first time Tech CEOs have been hauled in front of Congress t
o testify but not every time do you have parents sitting there and they were holding photos of their children saying their children passed away because of something they faced on social media and these are passionate parents they were frustrated they were angry I talked to several of them after the hearing and there was a really rare moment I've never seen this in a senate hearing before you didn't take any action you didn't fire anybody you haven't compensated a single victim let me ask you thi
s let me ask you this there's families of victims here today have you apologized to the victims when Senator Josh Holly was basically calling out Mark Zuckerberg to face these parents to apologize to them would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your prod show them the pictures would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people and Mark Zuckerberg actually stood up turned around and [Applause] apologized the things that youres suffer but something
that some of the parents picked up that I talked about is that it was an apology a show of empathy for the struggles that these parents are facing for what they've been through but it's not Mark Zuckerberg taking responsibility for what happened there's a clear difference here well and what do lawmakers think should be done Selena because I feel like we have seen scenes like this a lot over the years right that Tech Executives get called in to be held accountable and then nothing I don't know n
othing changes well there's actually BR some rare bipartisan agreement here which is that they don't trust the companies to regulate themselves they believe that there needs to be regulation at the federal level of this that has to change over the past year this committee has unanimously reported five bills that would finally hold tech companies accountable there is some bipartisan supporting of some of these bills including the kids online safety act which would make these platforms more liable
for the harmful content on their platforms and that did get the support of some of the tech companies there but not all of them do you support the kids online safety act these These are that is public and I'm just asking whether you'll support it or not these are nuanced things I think that the basic spirit is right I think the basic ideas in it are right but that being said senator Amy kachar even said so herself that Congress is partly to blame here I just want to get this stuff done I'm so t
ired of this it's been 28 years what since the internet we haven't passed any of these bills because everyone's double talk double talk it's time to actually pass them for years Congress has failed to pass any major legislation to fix these issue partly because of disagreements among lawmakers and also what they say is because of lobbying from these big tech companies to block those efforts did you walk away with a sense Selena though that that stuff is happening here I mean there is this bipart
isan anger at Silicon Valley right so I mean does that equal action I mean what what what where does this all stand in your eyes yeah well this is an extremely difficult issue while there is momentum for some of these pieces of legislation the reality is that it's not clear if it's actually going to get anywhere but these companies they're vowing to do more they say they've already hired armies of people to content moderate that they're already taking harmful content down but there is agreement
in Congress that more has to be done I spoke to some of the parents who were in the hearing yesterday and they were thoroughly unimpressed by what they heard from the social media companies one of them was Sam Chapman he lost his son because he went on social media he was a teenager and thought he was buying one thing and turned out it was laced with fentanyl and he passed away I think the CEOs are going to do nothing until they're forced to they didn't support any of the law that are on the tab
le in the Senate when asked and he felt like Mark Zuckerberg wasn't fully in it when he was apologizing he wasn't taking accountability for it I spoke to another parent named Brandon Guffy whose son took his own life he says because of sextortion plenty of other platforms have the ability to shut down an account anytime child pornography transfers and yet these companies are enabling it and he says he's not buying the promises that these tech companies are making and that they are to blame he's
also not impressed by by Mark Zuckerberg's apology yeah and we keep talking about the horror stories right like the worst possible version of this happening then you got to think there's so many ways large and small in which Tech is sort of affecting the lives of young people around the country every day how they're ingesting media how they're seeing themselves uh Selena Wang they're in the capital right now thank you so much thanks Brad there will be more on this story to follow in the coming m
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ive reporting from the 2024 campaign Trail I'm Eva Pilgrim wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News live and one last thing everyone loves a good mystery Jack the Ripper's identity is there really a city of Atlantis well The Disappearance of Amelia airheart is right up there as one of the greatest Unsolved Mysteries of all time until now you think you found Amilia ahart's plane really yeah why not yes yes absolutely That's Tony Romeo he's the CEO of a company called D
eep Sea vision he's a pilot and former US Air Force intelligence officer and his company does everything from ocean habitat mapping to shipwreck hunting Romeo's company spent nearly 18 months mapping planning and searching for Earhart's long lost plane in the Pacific somewhere between Australia and Hawaii where is this plane by the way you got a pencil you want you write it write down the coordinates not the Bermuda Triangle apparently no it's not it's near hland Island we're telling everyone wi
thin 100 miles of hland Island just to be safe oh cuz you don't want to give away like the like actual spot or else everyone's going to show up that's right that's right so while all of his competitors fire up their motorboats quick history lesson and then she be thinking about going home yes it's time for me to go home then Amelia aart was the first female Aviator to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean she was only the second person in history to do it well in 1937 she was attempting to become t
he first woman to circumnavigate the Earth along the Equator when she and her Navigator disappeared appeared in the Pacific Ocean near Howland Island the search swings around the area from which her last message was received and in the Golden Age of radio this quickly became one of the biggest stories on earth like disappearance of the century even though it's only 1937 dozens and dozens of theories on what happened to her but uh you know until she's found uh you know there' be more theories and
more ideas but there's enough to just keep you reading and reading and reading reading until it's just you're like down this rabbit hole and you're never coming out of it so how do you go about finding an 80-year-old plane in the middle of nowhere well the deep sea Vision team first had to pick an area to study they used what has become known as the DAT line Theory this Theory suggests that after 17 hours of exhausting flying Amelia air Hearts Navigator Fred Nunan simply forgot to turn back the
date from July 3rd to July 2nd as they crossed the International Date Line there in the Pacific creating a navigational air of 60 Mi and at this spot 60 Mi off course where Romeo's team started deploying an underwater drone Romeo says instead of a Mars Rover think of something more like a drone right just flying along back and forth taking sonar images except instead of the Drone being in the sky it's suspended in water and it flies at about 50 m above the seaf Flor which is about 150 ft and th
en it's just looking out at anything it can see using sound so it's it's pinging it's just like a like a ping and it's sending that sound out and then it listens for what it bounces off of however because this area is so deep so remote there's no live feed to the people on the surface you get a pre-program where you want the Drone to go it zigzags around takes its sonar images then it comes up we're talking terabytes of data here right terabytes constantly watching this sonar this kind of waterf
all data and looking for any anything that looks like a plane or fits the right size of a plane and it wasn't until weeks later that they noticed what first looked like an outcropping of rocks and then on further analysis revealed the shape of a plane so you see the twin uh the twin vertical stabilizers on the back and also in the image that was very distinctive of her plane I'm for all the insistence on the idea that it is air heart's plane it is the same size and dimensions none of that will b
e provable until he can take some pictures that will take a Rover type vehicle which he doesn't have yet I think we go down we confirm it if it is in fact the plane then we go back with the right equipment and what's called curating the side we just make see how it's sitting in the sand um is it actually salvageable and can we engineer a solution to raise it and then um hopefully restore the plane and bring it bring her home but for a sea Explorer you don't get bigger than this the ocean has alw
ays inspired equal parts awe and fear for centuries seaf fa farers spoke of it in hushed reverent tones it was both Heaven and Hell air travel was supposed to tame this right could just fly right over the sea well for Millions around the world ailia airheart was a reminder that it could still swallow you whole that is the Legacy that people like Romeo are chasing one stretch of sand at a time my dad was a pilot for PanAm for four for four decades and a story I heard I actually played art in a pl
ay in fourth grade so it was you know it's something that I've always you know been fascinated by he says even if this isn't air heart's plane there were very few documented flights going down in this region it'll hold lessons either way since even armed with 21st century drones were still just scratching the surface of the seafloor and I asked him wait why were you playing in Mila airheart he says he doesn't quite remember the casting process of fourth grade theater but that he always dug her a
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rashing to the ground at this airport in boy Idaho the death toll overnight and what we've learned about the work being done at the time an urgent warning from the director of the FBI cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety how he says China may try to attack our water supply and power grid to quote wreak havoc Tech CEOs grilled on Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to protect kids from abuse and drugs the remarkable moment when Mark
Zuckerberg apologized and what comes next in the fight to hold social media companies more responsible risk on the road new crash tests raising concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails dramatic moment a girl falls from the ski lift plunging to the ground we hear from Witnesses a new alert from the FDA about so-called copy cat eye drops that could be contaminated Travis Kelce opens up what he's now revealing about his relationship with Taylor Swift and the one momen
t that made him blush and later the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day from ABC news in New York this is America this morning good Thursday morning everyone I'm ran and Aly and I'm Andrew Denberg we begin with a deadly building collapse the building was under construction on the grounds of an Airport overnight police were combing the scene for Clues as to what could have happened this morning authorities are investigating what caused a building under construction to suddenly collapse at th
e airport in Boise Idaho killing three people and injuring at least nine others I currently have three people trapped in elevated in the genie two of those are currently under responsive the structure being built was an airplane hanger authorities say a crane was placing something on the steel framework when it collapsed I can tell you that it was a a pretty Global collapse that occurred of the main structural members uh came down was fairly catastrophic a man who works at the airport says at th
e time he was recording planes landing in Gusty winds the structure and the crane seen in this video minutes before the collapse investigators overnight said it's unclear exactly what caused the hanger to come crashing down an airport spokesperson says while the hangar is on Airport property it was being built by a private company which says dozens of workers were on site adding their hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event at least five of those victims were in critical condit
ion overnight a new warning about us National Security and the danger posed by China the FBI director told Congress yesterday that China is looking to wreak havoc by using cyber attacks to Target us Water and Power Systems and that's not all he's warning about ABC's Andrea Fuji has more China's multipronged assault on our national and economic security make it the defining threat of Our Generation a stark new warning from us intelligence leaders about the Cyber threat posed by China let's be cle
ar cyber threats to our critical infr structure represent real world threats to our physical safety FBI director Christopher Ray and other officials warning lawmakers that the country's Transportation Systems water treatment plants and electrical grids are vulnerable to hackers working on behalf of the Chinese government telecommunications going down so people can't use their cell phone people start getting sick from polluted water trains get derailed air traffic control system po Port control s
ystems are malfunctioning this this is truly an everything everywhere all at once scenario the justice department has revealed recently dismantled a Chinese hacking group called volt typhoon that hijacked hundreds of home and small business routers to Target infrastructure former White House cyber response Chief Jeff Green says China is looking to create chaos the goal of these intrusions is largely to create that societal panic and we need to make sure that we are prepared not to panic we take
the power away from our adversaries when we can take a punch roll with it and move forward director Ray says China's hackers outnumber FBI cyber Personnel 50 to one he wants more funding to fight the threat but experts say the American people can also do their part these intrusions are happening because of fundamental flaws in divices that these critical infrastructure services are using so you as an individual can't do a lot to protect the the critical infrastructure but you can help protect pr
epare yourself when President Biden and Chinese president shei met back in November she assured Biden China would not interfere in the upcoming presidential election FBI director Christopher Ray testified he will believe that when he sees it Andrew ranan all right Andrea thank you a new air strike in the Middle East the Pentagon says US forces targeted a drone base used by Irani and backed rebels in Yemen to attack ships in the Red Sea the US warship yesterday shot down a missile and three attac
k drones in one hour and a missile came within a mile of the USS Gravely the closest encounter since the rebels began the attacks in October in support of hamas's war against Israel meanwhile the White House is blaming an umbrella group of Irani andb backed fighters in Iraq for the Drone attack that killed three US soldiers in Jordan Sunday the looming us response could play out over a period of weeks targeting Iranian assets in neighboring countries a big decision on Capitol Hill affecting your
taxes in a rare moment of bipartisanship Democrats joined Republicans as the house passed a $78 billion tax bill last night it would give low-income families about $700 in child tax benefits and it would restore some tax breaks for businesses including full deductions for things like new equipment but the bill still needs to pass the Senate where it faces an uncertain future the CEOs of Tik Tock Instagram and other big tech companies were grilled on Capitol Hill accused of not doing enough to p
rotect the mental health of kids on social media families who lost children to Suicide were among those in the audience apologies were made but will it lead to any new laws in the face of powerful lobbying groups ABC's M win is here now with more M good morning ran good morning yes Senators compare the tech companies to Big tobacco claiming they prioritize profits over the well-being of children you have a product you have a product that's killing people the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday
accused the chief Executives of meta X Tik Tok snap and Discord of failing to protect kids who use their platforms grieving families packed the hearing room holding up images of their children they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media Mr Zuckerberg you and the companies before us I know you don't mean it to be so but you have blood on your hands meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg was especially singled out Senator Josh Holly called on the Facebook founder to directly apologize to the
families show them the pictures would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good [Applause] people go through the things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so much and are going to continue doing industry Le efforts to uh to make make sure that no one has to go through the of things that your families had to suffer Evan Spiegel the chief executive of snap also apologized after lawmakers pressed him on the issue of drugs being sold on Snapchat I'm so s
orry that we have not been able to prevent these tragedies the executives emphasized their parents themselves and they highlighted new tools on their platforms that protect kids from illegal content a commitment is ongoing and unwavering because they is no Finish Line when it comes to protecting teens according to a meta spokesperson the company in recent months removed 90,000 accounts for potentially suspicious behavior and disabled more than 2.6 million accounts for violating the company's chi
ld sexual exploitation policies the senate committee says it hopes the hearing will build momentum for legislation aimed at boosting privacy and parental controls for children but not all the executives support that legislation only two of the five Executives the CEOs of X formerly known as Twitter and snap are promising to support bipartisan legislation that would make these companies more liable for harmful content on their platforms notably Mark Zuckerberg and the CEO of Tik Tok did not Zucke
rberg said a law requiring social media platforms to check the age of users would be trivial instead he said that responsibility should fall on App Store providers such as Apple and Google Congress has been trying to regul social media for years but is yet to pass a law Andrew all right em thank you turning to the weather now the storms hitting the West Coast are bringing heavy winds to California cars had to dodge tumble weeds here in central California but the big story today is a risk for flo
oding around Los Angeles with that let's check your Thursday forecast good morning a powerful Pacific storm the first that we're going to see this series of these into next week is moving through California we have a nasty nasty morning commute in Los Angeles if you can still adjust that schedule you're going to leave some extra time or need some extra time uh and be in better shape after accounting for the rain in La feet of snow into the Sierra this moves into the Four Corners region with heav
y Mountain snow through tonight moving in through the Great Basin and ultimately this will also produce some strong thunderstorms Friday night in a Texas I'm a you with meteorologist Jeff Cornish coming up a bizarre site along the road in Florida grizzly bears from Alaska will explain also ahead the text messages revealed at the trial of the Michigan mom whose son was behind a deadly school shooting and later a ski lift nightmare why a teenager went plunging to the ground at this Resort whenever
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volved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome mon
ey can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we're bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery as a man it's like man I wish I was taller we see men who are taller as the alpha I went from 5'9 right now with shoes I'm 61 everybody's freaked out by it on the basis of what is called leg lengthening you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu from America's number one news comes the all new ABC News app if you love being
in the no you're going to love this experience the allnew ABC News app download it now an unusual encounter in Florida they look like Grizzlies but a pair of Kodiak bear cubs native Alaska were calmly approaching cars in the Florida Panhandle they grow bigger than Grizzlies turns out they had escaped from the home of a local bear trainer just a little curious there Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the Russ movie Set is plea avoids an arraig
nment that was scheduled for today meanwhile new details about the film's weapon supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other charges coure documents Show members of the Russ crew were concerned about Hannah Gutierrez Reeds alleged drug and alcohol use during filming prosecutors say evidence shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first began working on the movie that is a claim she has denied now to the trial of a Michigan mother whose son was behind a deadly school sh
ooting in 2021 the case against her now centering on text messages revealed in court new evidence in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley she's charged with involuntary manslaughter accused of disregarding the risks posed by her son Ethan before he fatally shot four students at his Michigan High School body camera video played in court shows authorities storming a Detroit Warehouse where Crumbley and Ethan's father were allegedly hiding police with guns drawn found the crumbly apparently asleep with m
ore than $6,000 in cash I see two people laying on a mattress um if I'm not mistaken they're facing each other jurors also heard yesterday from a man first identified as Jennifer crumb's high school friend Brian malat during questioning it was revealed he and Crumbley had been having an affair malach saying on the morning of the shooting Jennifer texted him worried her son was going to do something dumb he also testified crumblyy was able to leave work to meet with him on the day of the shooting
despite crumblyy allegedly telling the school that she could not take her son home for mental health care because she was needing needed at work did she ever tell you um that she didn't have to be at a meeting later than the day on November the 30th 2021 in fact she was able to leave work to meet you when it pleased her yes prosecutors say other text messages revealed Jennifer Crumbley wrote the shooting could have been prevented but the defense argues she wasn't aware how much her son was stru
ggling and says the school could have done more to help him another text message reveals crumbly said I failed as a I failed miserably she could take the stand before the end of the trial coming up there's a new warning out about contaminated eye drops also ahead crash tests rais new concern about electric vehicles too heavy for the nation's guard rails whenever news breaks we are here in Israel a nation at war after that brutal surprise attack by Hamas on the ground in Ukraine reporting from Le
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Beirut from the FBI reporting from that nurs is on the picket line here at 10 Downing Street in London streaming live to you wherever the story is wherever the story is wherever the story is we're going to take you there you're streaming ABC News live ABC News live you're streaming ABC News live ABC news live streaming free everywhere America's number one streaming news were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exo
nerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of malcolmx and 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC national forests are good places to get away but sometimes bad things happen in good places it's the stuff of nightmare all I could see was their feet sticking up my knees we
nt weak this is a human skull we were definitely against the clock how many more victims are out there wild crime Blood Mountain now streaming only on Hulu in mccac one of the biggest unclimbed rock faces on the planet now I'm starting to get very excited if we manage to climb in cik it'll be the biggest first assent we've ever done oh my God it's so scary ultimately what's at stake with climbing this is not what I signed up for is always your life a wild end to a police chase in Los Angeles loo
k at this video of speeding Lexus going up to 120 mph slammed into the center divider on the 5 freeway police arresting the driver say they found a gun and a large amount of cash in the car new crash tests are revealing a potential danger for drivers of electric vehicles researchers say the vehicles like this electric truck here are so heavy they are no match for most guard rails on highways they say the guard rail in this test is the same kind found on thousands of miles of roads and they say i
t did almost nothing to slow down the truck at only 60 MPH now to a nightmare at a ski resort in California harrowing video shows a 16-year-old dangling from a chairlift at a ski resort in California after apparently slipping on the chair other lift Riders Clinging On to her desperately waiting for help to arrive everyone was yelling chanting together to stop the lift but I could see almost immediately as it left the loading station um like at that point the person was already starting to fall o
ff workers at Mammoth Mountain then set up a net beneath her when this happens the girl plunging through that net slamming to the ground she was later taken to the hospital the frightening fall just the latest Scare at a ski resort just last week at Heavenly Mountain resort near Lake Tahoe a woman spent 15 hours trapped inside a gondola hanging in the air all night enduring freezing temperatures a resort executive now saying we have rigorous protocols to ensure our Gondola and chairlift are full
y unloaded each day it is clear there was a breakdown in those protocols that day as for the girl who fell off the ski lift there is no word this morning on the extent of her injuries the FDA is warning people not to use what it calls copycat eye drops because they could be contaminated the imitations are easily mistaken for BOS and Lam's lumify ey drops which are approved by the FDA the brands in question include South Moon and rebite which use virtually identical packaging and do not have gove
rnment approval coming up Travis Kelce opens up about Taylor Swift and the moment that made him blush plus the shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day mcac one of the biggest unclimbed rock faces on the planet now I'm starting to get very excited if we manage to climb in cord like it'll be the biggest first assent we've ever done oh my guys so scary ultimately what's at stake with climbing this is not what I signed up for is always your life inside that pen is a slice of human brain I've never
seen a place like this in my life oh my god look [Music] wow tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure from America's number one news comes the allnew ABC News app breaking news Incredible video faster smarter and customizable to your interests if you love being in the know you're going to love this experience the allne
w ABC News app download it now were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC wherever ne
ws breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed getting you behind the stories as they happen ABC News live Prime we'll take you there streaming free on ABC News live reporting from the Federal Reserve I'm ABC's Elizabeth schy wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News [Music] live time to check the the pulse we begin with Travis Kelsey opening up about his relationship with uh Taylor Swift he says he knew Swift for about a month before she went to
her first game back in September on the Pat McAfee show yesterday Kelsey said his relationship with Swift has been a crazy ride he never anticipated Travis is phenomenal at football this guy's everything that we would like be a football player and he's in love he's a great guy gu's in love I think that's why everybody's coming back I think you were hated for a b it's a beautiful thing isn't it and then hopefully everybody realizes that uh we're just uh we're two people in a relationship uh supp
orting each other and having fun with it man it's it's nothing more than that and uh how how much the world wants to paint the paint the picture and make us the enemy um we just have fun with it KY said when it comes to the haters they ignore them meanwhile quarterback Patrick Mahomes is responding to claims that he's got a dad bod the comments came after photos of a shirtless Mahomes were posted online after Sunday's win Mahomes responded yo why they have to do me like that and he said like I g
ot kids leave the man alone and from football to college hoops Caitlyn Clark just added to her growing list of achievements the Iowa Hawkeye scored 35 points last night now moving her into second place on the women's all-time scoring list and this shows what a star Clark is a rare Trading Card of hers sold for 78,000 bucks next a shortage of groundhogs for Groundhog Day maybe not in punks atani but a town in New Jersey has been forced to to cancel its February 2nd event it's longtime groundhog M
el died a few years ago and organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly impossible they say they've called Wildlife Center zoos exotic breeders they've had no luck state regulations have only added to the challenges finally a different kind of porch pirate a possum was caught on video wandering onto this porch in Texas to steal a box of cookies delivered for a teenager's birthday party an impossible that he left the balloon and the iing possible Friday a stalker hunting women makes me s
hudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my go do and then a silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun and jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they all new 2020 Friday night on ABC ing mccac one of the biggest unclimbed rock faces on the planet now I'm starting to get very excited if we manage to climb in cordac it'll be the biggest first assc we've ever
done oh my God so scary ultimately what's at stake with climbing this is not what I signed up for is always your life the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we're bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery as a man it's like man I wish I was taller we see men who are taller as the alpha I went from 5'9 right now wish shoes I'm 61 everybody's freaked out by it on the basis of what is called leg lengthen
ing you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of K Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now toni
ght after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC checking more top stories now at least three people were killed in Boise Idaho when a building collapsed it was a private company's hanger that was being built on the grounds of the city's airport five other people were critically injured Troopers in Washington state are beefing up patrols after seven Highway shootings in recent weeks the most recent was last night outside of Seattle police are searching for two suspects thankfully no injuries have b
een reported so far the CDC reports the number of premature births in the US has jumped by 12% in recent years factors include higher rates of obesity diabetes and high blood pressure and more women having babies later in life today's weather Heavy Rain along the west coast flooding and mudslides possible in Southern California 2 feet of snow in the Rockies more record high temperatures in the midwest finally the Hospital volunteer celebrating his 102nd birthday he spoke to our Danny news happy
birthday to you not many people celebrate their 102nd birthday at work how' that make you feel when when you saw everybody pretty old I just want to thank you for all your years of service well technically herb Norman of Springfield Massachusetts does not work at Bay State Medical Center but at 33 years in counting he is the hospital's longest serving volunteer well I love being with people live I'm a people's person and it makes night day it makes their day also for more than three decades when
ever someone comes into the lobby sometimes you know not in the greatest mood it's herb who is there waiting to help them some of them come in frightened they don't come in anyway so we get together they talk it over and uh things works that okay now herb came to Massachusetts back in 1947 after spending four years in the air force during World War II and what kind of colored man are you he still remembers serving in a segregated unit and the day that President Harry Truman finally put an end to
that division President Truman she says you know we have only one country the United States that's one of the best things have ever happened almost 80 years later herb is still working to serve our country and help his community although I should mention he does at least take a summer break he takes the summer off to uh grow tomatoes in his backyard that is the cutest thing I've ever been told in my life we were supposed to a lunch but after the summer and spending some time with his family and
great grandchildren herb always comes back to pitch in that's one of the best things I would advise get out and help someone and can't help themselves it's going to take that much to do that for the record guys I did ask herb the secret to reaching 102 and he said he always cut down on the red meat so Andrew I don't like our odds oh thank you for your service and a very happy birthday to Herb that's what's making news in America this morning a fantastic day [Music] everyone it's Thursday Februa
ry 1st it's tough to get a bargain when you're not allowed to bargain we start here for the first time in history the American government is about to negot negotiate for better drug prices negotiating competition that's as American as apple pie this all gets underway today and the Man In Charge is joining start here to walk us through it Mark Zuckerberg gives parents a meta apology they were thoroughly unimpressed by what they heard from the social media companies fire Emoji eyes emoji this was
a contentious Hearing in Washington an Amelia air heart's plane was last spotted in 1937 or according to this guy a few weeks ago you got a pencil you you ready to write down the coordinates what deep water drones could tell us about the ocean floor from ABC News this is start here I'm Brad [Music] milky if you know anything about American healthc care you know that prescription drug prices are out of control it costs $480 a quarter $750 a month out of pocket was like $7,000 like even if you're
insurance covers the price of a drug the drug itself might still be insanely expensive which means if you don't have insurance or it's not covered under your plan good luck pharmacists will always say you know this is very expensive and I said I know but it's either that or risk having a heart attack well when the inflation reduction Act passed a couple years ago it promised to finally chip away at drug prices by putting one of the biggest buyers in the world the United States government at the
bargaining table let's call this for what it is it's simply it's a ripoff see when your insurance company says good news your drugs covered you can go pick it up at your Walgreens that all comes after intensive negotiations about price every now and then the drug company will tell insurers hey these pills are 10 bucks each the insurance company comes back and says well okay but we're sending you tons of patients in bulk how about you give them to us for five bucks a pill remember you never see t
his haggling you might pay the same either way but it affects how much insurance cost in the first place it affects the broader Market it's a big impact the weird thing is while siga represents 20 million Americans and Etna represents 40 million Americans about 65 million Americans are covered by Medicare alone but until the inflation reduction act the US government had never been able to directly negotiate on those patients behalf the drug company would say this is the price and Medicare could
say yes or no that changes starting today under this new law negotiations are finally underway and we've got the Secretary of Health and Human Services Javier Basera with us this morning secretary Basera thanks for being with us how is this about to work Brad uh you hit it right on the money it's incredible to believe that for 65 million Americans we could not try to get the best price we had it it's one of those take it or leave it the drug company sets the price and lo and behold Americans tod
ay pay two or three times more than they probably should for those prescription drugs that folks around the world are paying so much less for so it is now time and the inflation reduction act as you said now gives us a chance the president fought for that law and now we're going to start negotiations we have submitted our offer to the uh nine companies that have the 10 drugs that are the first to be negotiated and we'll have a now now have a chance to have a back and forth in in negotiations wha
t types of drugs are we talking about oh these are drugs that cover cancer diabetes heart disease it is the types of chronic conditions that you and I know that affect so many Americans and cost us so much these drugs these 10 drugs uh alone cost us the federal government taxpayers $46 billion in 2022 and they cost folks on Medicare who are the ones were getting the drugs about three and a half billion dollars out of their own pocket um and and these are like you said like the 10 sort of most us
ed drugs in the Medicare system what is the timeline for how this actually plays out like you guys start talking today you sub you submit your offers today then then what happens so the companies have about a month to give us a counter offer we then will uh engage them as well and respond to what they've said but by August the 1 we have to finish the negotiations and have a a price a negotiated price that price will then take into effect the beginning of Jan January 2026 why you mentioned how ex
pensive our drugs are compared to other countries two and three times higher why is that like can it is it just because the government can't negotiate via Medicare like that's the reason well I think of it this way you go into a car dealership to buy a car do you pay the price you see on the sticker right of course you do you go in there saying that's sticker price I know you paid a lot less hey and I also read Consumer Reports I know that you're you're really it only cost you this much and I kn
ow that the the actual manufacturer gave you the dealer a further discount the more you sell etc etc so this is the price I'll offer you then of course they go into that back room and they come back and then they offer you a different price you haggle back and forth until you get a price that you're willing to live with and if you say you know I don't like the price I'm gonna go to the dealer down the down the street you know you try to get the best bargain you can we could not do that by law we
were restricted now we can do it that's why we think we're going to drive the prices down hey and by the way in any real negotiation like the one you just mentioned you have to be willing to get up and walk away right is that is that the case with drugs though I mean is there a chance that there's going to be a drug no longer covered by Medicare because you guys couldn't agree on a price well see that's the interesting part uh uh up until the passage of the inflation reduction act we didn't hav
e a choice we had to accept the price that those manufacturers put on the drug or we wouldn't have access to it for the the millions of Americans who get Medicare and so now we have a chance to try to negotiate to get the best price and by the way the drug companies aren't forced to negotiate they have a choice if they want to participate in the Medicare program they get to continue to sell the drug to anyone they'd like but if they want to do it through the Medicare program they have to engage
in negotiations with us now on these 10 drugs no I get it but if they but say they're like it's this much and you guys are like well we're not paying that like is there a chance drugs stop getting covered because you guys didn't get the deal you wanted well we believe that by engaging in good faith upfront negotiations we'll settle on a good price okay um who who saves money at the end of all this it's not the average consumer right it's not like Uncle Sam's negot I'm not on Medicare Uncle Sam's
not negotiating on my behalf I assume Medicare folks would pay the same amount maybe out of pocket like they don't see a sticker price difference is it just so who actually saves money is it taxpayers r large or something so uh directly uh folks who are on Medicare will will benefit by a Medicare being able to negotiate for the best fair price uh on these drugs uh the lower the price is the more that the Medicare program and Med Medicare beneficiaries spend when the Medicare program saves money
taxpayers save money because taxpayers help cover the cost of the Medicare program for Medicare beneficiaries and so at the end of the day all Americans will benefit by having lower costs on drugs under Medicare but remember what happened with insulin insulin which was part of the inflation reduction act uh efforts has now been lowered to $35 at most per month for the insulin that a Medicare beneficiary needs it could have been three or four times that amount before January 1st of this year now
that the laws kicked kicked in it's only $35 a month guess what the the manufacturers of insulin have also now moved to reduce the price of insulin for people who aren't on Medicare for whom the law didn't reach and so I think so it changes the ecos system kind of it changes the expectation that's right that's right when do you see that happening though when would the average American actually see a difference you think well they're already beginning to see the difference right now on insulin u
h while the price on on these drugs that we're negotiating now won't actually take effect until the beginning of 2026 uh everyone will see what happens as of August of this year and so we'll see what goes on but there can you know negotiating competition that's as American as apple pie and who would be against you trying to negotiate for the best price for your vehicle that you're going to buy from that dealer who would who would uh argue with that maybe the Pharma companies right they have said
that this will uh hurt their chances to be competitive they've said it could hurt them having medical breakthroughs they've sued the bid Administration to say that this is unconstitutional I mean what also you've got GOP you've got Republicans saying that this should not be the way the US does business what's your response to that uh you know I used to be the Attorney General in California I'd say that uh the fact that I'm being sued probably means I'm doing something right so so you don't thin
k it's unconstitutional though oh not at all no no no I I I I look we we see negotiations occurring in the federal government already the Veterans Administration negotiates drug prices already Indian Health Services which is under the Department of Health and Human Services and provides Direct Care and also uh purchases drugs goes through the same process of negotiating for prices this is this is not new and you don't think that hurts the ability to innovate and be competitive and create the nex
t new huge cancer drug that could affect millions of lives that this doesn't actually hinder companies from doing that think of it this way if if we're now negotiating to get the best price there will be companies who know they'll be able to compete with some of the brandname uh Pharma companies who are able to somehow you know muscle everyone out of the market the more competition the more Innovation the more Innovation the better the price for everyone all right that is Secretary of Health and
Human Services Javier Basera thank you so much for the explainer and really appreciate you taking the time thanks Brad great to be with you next up on start here so if that's dividing Congress this sure isn't a tech hearing gets tense for Mark Zuckerberg after the [Music] break Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you do to and then a silver minivan pulls up oh and he reaching
for the gun and jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television world news tonight with David mure I just to W get my daughter for school and she has no cult is she breathing no did you shoot into 's house no si
r am I a suspect should you be Bad Romance the 2020 limited series Monday night on ABC were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonig
ht after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed getting you behind the stories as they happen ABC News live Prime we'll take you there streaming free on ABC News live inside that pen is a slice of human brain I've never seen a place like this in my life oh my god look [Music] wow so many Congressional hearings in this era are one-sided Affairs right the party in charge decides to haul someone in for questioning they bl
ast them while the minority parties spends their time defending the witness well yesterday the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing about keeping children safe online Democratic leaders had called in the heads of Tik Tok X formerly Twitter and meta which owns Facebook and Instagram Mark Zuckerberg himself was there and in this hearing no one was rushing to these companies defense in fact this is the one Topic in Washington that engenders bipartisan anger let's go to ABC senior White House c
orrespondent Selena Wang Selena Zuckerberg and these other Executives really got a grilling right why they were absolutely slammed by these lawmakers and it was expected all the all the time these hearings have a lot of political grandstanding there's a lot of scathing criticism this time it was over child exploitation on these internet platforms and at the opening of the hearing there were some particularly strong words from Senator Lindsey Graham Mr Zuckerberg you and the companies before us I
know you don't mean it to be so but you have blood on your hands you have a product you have a a product that's killing people and there's been a growing chorus of frustration from parents who say their children have fallen victim to this kind of exploitation to hold these platforms accountable if they're being held responsible then they will correct the problem and they have the ability to so when we talk about exploitation there's many different forms one of the ones that's frequently talked
about is sex tortion which is basically a form of blackmail where an offender manipulates this minor to share sexually explicit images of themselves and then threatens to release them to use it against them unless they give them money that's one form another form is bullying another form is what parents have described as their children going online thinking they're buying one thing only to realize it's a drug laced with fentanyl and they pass away from that so there's many different kinds of thr
eats that these children are facing online so there's the Senators Selena but then what I wasn't even expecting was there were parents of children who had been affected by this in the room with these Tech Executives that's what really made this hearing different this is not the first time Tech CEOs have been hauled in front of Congress to testify but not every time do you have parents sitting there and they were holding photos of their children saying their children passed away because of someth
ing they faced on social media and these are passionate parents they were frustrated they were angry I talked to several of them after the hearing and there was a really rare moment I've never seen this in a senate hearing before you didn't take any action you didn't fire anybody you haven't compensated a single victim let me ask you this let me ask you this there's families of victims here today have you apologized to the victims when Senator Josh Holly was basically calling out Mark Zuckerberg
to face these parents to apologize to them would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your problem show them the pictures would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people and Mark Zuckerberg actually stood up turned around and [Applause] apologized to go through the things that your families have have suffered but something that some of the parents picked up that I talked about is that it was an apology a show of empathy for the struggles that th
ese parents are facing for what they've been through but it's not Mark Zuckerberg taking responsibility for what happened there's a clear difference here well and what do lawmakers think should be done Selena because I feel like we have seen scenes like this a lot over the years right that Tech Executives get called in to be held accountable and then nothing I don't know nothing changes well there's actually Brad some rare bipartisan agreement here which is that they don't trust the companies to
regulate themselves they believe that there needs to be regulation at the federal level of this that has to change over the past year this committee has unanimously reported five bills that would finally hold tech companies accountable there is some bipartisan supporting of some of these bills including the kids online safety act which would make these platforms more liable for the harmful content on their platforms and that did get the support of some of the tech companies there but not all of
them do you support the kids online safety act measur these are that public and I'm just asking whether you'll support it or not these are nuanced things I think that the basic spirit is right I think the basic ideas in it are right but that being said senator Amy kachar even said so herself that Congress is partly to blame here I just want to get this stuff done I'm so tired of this it's been 28 years what since the internet we haven't passed any of these bills because everyone's double talk d
ouble talk it's time to actually pass them for years Congress has failed to pass any major legislation to fix these issue partly because of disagreements among lawmakers and also what they say is because of lobbying from these big tech companies to block those efforts did you walk away with a sense Selena though that that stuff is happening here I mean there is this bipartisan anger at Silicon Valley right so I mean does that equal action I mean what what what where does this all stand in your e
yes yeah well this is an extremely difficult issue while there is momentum for some of these pieces of legislation the reality is that it's not clear if it's actually going to get anywhere but these companies they're vowing to do more they say they've already hired armies of people to content moderate that they're already taking harmful content down but there is agreement in Congress that more has to be done I spoke to some of the parents who were in the hearing yesterday and they were thoroughl
y unimpressed by what they heard from the social media companies one of them was Sam Chapman he lost his son because he went on social media he was a teenager and thought he was buying one thing and turned out it was laced with fentanyl and he passed away I think the CE are going to do nothing until they're forced to they didn't support any of the laws that are on the table in the Senate when asked and he felt like Mark Zuckerberg wasn't fully in it when he was apologizing he wasn't taking accou
ntability for it I spoke to another parent named Brandon Guffy whose son took his own life he says because of sextortion plenty of other platforms have the ability to shut down an account anytime child pornography transfers and yet these companies are enabling it and he says he's not buying the promises that these tech companies are making and that they are to blame he's also not impressed by Mark Zuckerberg's apology yeah and we keep talking about the horror stories right like the worst possibl
e version of this happening then you got to think there's so many ways large and small in which Tech is sort of affecting the lives of young people around the country every day how they're ingesting media how they're seeing themselves uh Selena Wang they're in the capital right now thank you so much thanks Brad there will be more on the story to follow in the coming months I'm sure okay one more quick break when we come back she disappeared in the thin air well has Amelia aart now come full circ
le one last thing is next were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC ing mccac one of
the biggest unclimbed rock faces on the planet now I'm starting to get very excited if we manage to climb ing CAC it'll be the biggest first assent we've ever done oh guys so scary ultimately what's at stake with climbing this is not what I signed up for it's always your [Music] life tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David
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News live and one last thing everyone loves a good mystery Jack the Ripper's identity is there really a city of Atlantis well The Disappearance of Amelia airheart is right up there as one of the greatest Unsolved Mysteries of all time until now you think you found Amilia aarts plane really yeah why not yes yes absolutely That's Tony Romeo he's the CEO of a company called Deep Sea Vision he's a pilot and former US Air Force intelligence officer and his company does everything from ocean habitat
mapping to shipwreck hunting Romeo's company spent nearly 18 months mapping planning and searching for Earhart's long-lost plane in the Pacific somewhere between Australia and Hawaii where is this plane by the way you got a pencil you want you write it write down the coordinates not the Bermuda triangle apparently no it's not it's near hland Island we're telling everyone within 100 miles of hland Island just to be safe oh because you don't want to give away like the like actual spot or else ever
yone's going to show up that's right that's right so while all of his competitors fire up their motorboats quick history lesson and then be thinking about going home yes it's time for me to go home then Amelia aart was the first female Aviator to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean she was only the second person in history to do it well in 1937 she was attempting to become the first woman to circumnavigate the Earth along the Equator when she and her Navigator disappeared in the Pacific Ocean nea
r Howland Island the search swings around the area from which her last message was received and in the Golden Age of radio this quickly became one of the biggest stories on earth like disappearance of the century even though it's only 1937 dozens and dozens of theories on what happened to her but uh you know until she's found uh you know there' be more theories and more ideas but there's enough to just keep you reading and reading and reading reading until it's just your down this rabbit hole an
d you're never coming out of it so how do you go about finding an 80-year-old plane in the middle of nowhere will the deep sea Vision team first had to pick an area to study they used what has become known as the DAT line Theory this Theory suggests that after 17 hours of exhausting flying Amelia air Hearts Navigator Fred Nunan simply forgot to turn back the date from July 3rd to July 2nd as they crossed the International Date Line there in the Pacific creating a navigational air of 60 Mi and at
this spot 60 Mi off course where Romeo's team started deploying an underwater drone Romeo says instead of a Mars Rover think of something more like a drone right just flying along back and forth taking sonar images except instead of the Drone being in the sky it's suspended in water and it flies at about 50 m above the seaf Flor which is about 150 ft and then it's just looking out at anything you can see using sound so it's it's pinging it's just like a like a ping and it's sending that sound o
ut and then it listens for what it bounces off of however because this area is so deep so remote there's no live feed to the people on the surface you get a pre-program where you want the Drone to go it zigzags around takes its sonar images then it comes up we're talking terabytes of data here right terabytes constantly watching this sonar this kind of waterfall data and looking for any anything that looks like a plane or fits the right size of a plane and it wasn't until weeks later that they n
oticed what first looked like an outcropping of rocks and then on further analysis revealed the shape of a plane so you see the twin uh the twin vertical stabilizers on the back and also in the image that was very distinctive of her plane I'm for all the insistence on the idea that it is a heart's plane it is the same size and dimensions none of that will be provable until he can take some pictures that will take a Rover type vehicle which he doesn't have yet I think we go down we confirm it if
it is in fact the plane then we go back with the right equipment and what's called curating the site we just make see how it's sitting in the sand um is it actually salvageable and can we engineer a solution to raise it and then um hopefully restore the plane and bring it bring her home but for a sea Explorer you don't get bigger than this the ocean has always inspired equal parts awe and fear for centuries seaf farers spoke of it in hushed reverent tones it was both Heaven and Hell air travel w
as supposed to tame this right could just fly right over the sea well for Millions around the world Emilia aart was a Remer that it could still swallow you whole that is the Legacy that people like Romeo are chasing one stretch of sand at a time my dad was a pilot for PanAm for four for four decades and this a story I heard I actually played a aart in a play in fourth grade so it was you know it's something that I've always you know been fascinated by he says even if this is an air heart's plane
there were very few documented flights going down in this region it'll hold lessons either way since even armed with 21st century drones we still just scratching the surface of the seafloor and I asked him wait why were you playing ailia airheart he says he doesn't quite remember the casting process of fourth grade theater but that he always dug her and I'm looking at old photos of her yeah she looked legit baller like the entire look and Vibe just impeccable hey if you're enjoying the show don
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osebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series
premiere of MLK X on ABC first thing in the morning there's a lot going on yet another Avalanche warning that's up to catch you up with what happened overnight a dangerous ice storm is impacting the morning commute what's happening today escalating tensions in the Middle East what people are talking about the migrant crisis fast straightforward with some fun in between how does billionaire sound sounds good to me the Moose started chasing a dog first thing in the morning America this morning Ame
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live hi I'm Dian Meo today on ABC News live first we are starting off with the US shooting down missiles and drones in the Middle East when the Pentagon could retaliate for the attack in Jordan as family of the service members killed speak with President Biden the rare bipartisan vote on tax cuts house lawmakers on both sides of the aisle pass a roughly $79 billion package how supporters say it could help families and businesses and why it's facing some resistance in the Senate Travis Kelce open
s up about his love story the big game and the challenges on and off the field how he says he and Taylor Swift are supporting each other we begin with the major storms slamming the West Coast emergency teams are going door Todo warning residents about the potential flooding and heavy rains flash floodings expected in Los Angeles right in the middle of Rush Hour ABC News Alex Perez is there with the latest Relentless rain taking aim at the West Coast in Soma County California cars navigating to c
onditions as flood waters overtake roads firefighters pulling a trap driver to safety their car taking on water winds in excess of 70 mph in Northern California drivers swerving to avoid accidents on Interstate 5 winds taking down this massive Redwood sending it crashing down onto this pickup truck in Santa Clara County the young woman trapped inside luckily only suffering minor injuries and heavy snow falling in Doner pass cars struggling to stay on the road this one slamming into an embankment
then sliding as it makes sit back on the road plows out trying to keep up with all the snow tractor trailers backed up heading into the pass many drivers waiting out the elements and ABC News Alex Perez is in Los Angeles with more on this Alex what are conditions like there right now hey Dane well you can tell it is raining coming down right now it's been coming down since just about after midnight and really hasn't stopped since this storm making its way from the north south and of course the
big concern is flash flooding I want you to take a look behind me here this is the LA River and you might be able to make out in the distance there sort of those that white paint on the bridge there where we've seen that water already rise just in the amount of time that we've been here of course officials taking no chances warning everyone that flash flooding is a real concern as this rain continues to come down it's going to be a slashy commute all day across parts of California Diane Alex how
are officials and residents preparing now for this second storm expected there this weekend yeah Diane that is the next big concern so this storm will uh not only be impacting the area here today but there's a second storm that's headed here into the weekend and that storm is one that officials are watching very closely in fact the office of emerc emergency services in Sacramento is keeping a close eye on the entire State officials are going door too in those flood prone areas warning people th
at they need to take this very very seriously uh in the last several days Southern parts of the state have been dealing with a lot of water and now we have yet another storm that's coming so officials here do not want to take any chances Diane all right Alex Perez in Los Angeles thank you and ABC News chief meteorologist Jinger Z is tracking the conditions and that second storm expected to bring more rain to California this weekend Ginger let's talk about two storms not just for California doesn
't stop at the state line but really interrupts that you know daily record high temperatures that were're falling for the last few days we've already seen more than 4 inches in the Bara and in Santa Barbara County so this is with storm one there are flood watches up there are winter storm warnings and watches that go all the way into Colorado and Wyoming high wind alerts into West Texas so again this one is going to kind of blow through throughout the day today into the desert Southwest tomorrow
and so you could even end up with some rain in Phoenix or Tucson some of the higher elevations pick up the snow that's why those winter storm warnings were there but then it's late weekend when we really start to wrap up a second storm and this one looks even colder core and it looks like it will stick around longer so that will end up dropping even more rain especially in Southern California landslides are of great concern a lot of the Earth has already started to move it's already on the Move
5 to 10 Ines of rain possible along much of the California coast in the SE are Nevada they desperately need snow because they're only at about 50% of average uh for the winter so far so that will help with the feet of snow to come but again this is going to come with wind and it's just going to be prolonged throughout next week Diane all right ABC News chief meteorologist Jinger Z thank you and US military officials say its forces destroyed houthi drones in a self-defense air strike in Yemen ac
cording to the US Central Command unmanned aerial vehicles and a ground control station run by the Iranian backed Rebel group presented an imminent threat to Merchant vessels and the US Navy this is the Pentagon prepares to retaliate for the deadly drone strike in Jordan Chief Global Affairs Martha correspondent Martha radit is in Jordan with the latest the US finalizing retaliatory strikes for Sunday's drone hit here in Jordan that killed three American soldiers and wounded 47 others the majori
ty of the Wounded National Guard soldiers the deadly strike won of nearly 170 attacks aimed at Americans in the region by Iranian backed militants the latest in the Red Sea the US conducting self-defense strikes in Yemen on a houthi drone Ground Control station and 10 one-way drones just hours earlier the USS Carney shooting down an anti- ship ballistic missile fired by the group in addition to three Iranian drones in less than an hour US forces also striking down a houthi surface to air missile
Wednesday which officials say presented an imminent threat to US aircraft operating in the area this after the USS Gravely intercepted a houy missile heading toward the ship splashing into the sea within only one mile of the warship the closest call yet now all eyes waiting for the response to the tragic attack in Jordan with the White House for the first time blaming the ironback militant group Islamic resistance in Iraq an umbrella group of numerous militias the Pentagon preparing to unleash
a multi day multi-target campaign bigger than anything seen this far in hopes deterrence will prevent more loss of life President Biden calling Onida and sha Sanders whose 24-year-old daughter Kennedy was killed in the attack I know uh you know everybody uh I I know there's nothing anybody can say or do Hees a pain I've been there yes sir we understand the parents overcome with emotion when the president reveals how their daughter will be honored we're promoting her past two minutes L to Sergean
t oh wow that is the best news I've heard today thank you so much you don't know how much that means to us oh well I tell you what it means a lot to lot to me my son spent a year in Iraq how I lost him and uh I uh you know 1% 1% of all these kids in the once at uh we take care of 99% of us such heartbreaking scenes the president is not expected to hit Iran directly fearing the conflict in this region will escalate but it has already spread far beyond the borders of Gaza Diane Chief Global Affair
s correspondent Martha radit thank you and the FBI directors warning lawmakers about a major threat from China Christopher Ray says Chinese hackers are preparing to wreak havoc on American infrastructure China's multipronged assault on our national and economic security make it the defining threat of Our Generation let's be clear cyber threats to our critical infrastructure represent real world threats to our physical safety the FBI says agents stopped a Chinese government-backed effort to Targe
t water treatment plans transportation systems and the electrical grid across the US chief justice correspondent Pier Thomas has the latest in a dramatic Congressional hearing the FBI director said that hacking an economic Espionage from China is quote the defining threat of Our Generation Chris Ray described a newly unveiled case involving hacking from China that he says portrays just how Sinister that threat is he says China had secretly stepped up its electronic warfare deploying what is bein
g called the vote typhoon malware throughout the US economic ecosystem it targeted water treatment plants our electrical grid our oil and natural gas pipelines and our transportation systems Ray said the malware was designed to our nation at a time of China's choosing in other words China was taking steps to quote destroy or degrade the civilian critical infrastructure that keeps us safe and prosperous the FBI working with other agencies and partners discovered the malware and has been working t
o root it out of the American economic system it's like something out of Science Fiction Diane wow chief justice correspondent Pier Thomas thank you and Congress will now have to decide whether to impose new regulations on social media platforms to protect children lawmakers grilled the CEOs of meta Tik Tock X and other social media companies about how the platforms protect kids from sexual predators addictive features bullying suicide and eating disorders the packed hearing was filled with fami
lies affected by the issue some holding up photos of the children they've lost ABC News senior White House correspondent Selena Wang has the latest growing momentum in Congress to finally protect kids online you have blood on your hands you have a product you have a product that's killing people after an explosive hearing on Capitol Hill with the CEOs of five tech companies we know these kids are dying your platforms really suck at policing themselves Mr Zuckerberg what the hell were you thinkin
g the grief of parents palpable in the room holding up photos of their children who they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media children like Sammy Chapman his father describing him as a hardworking football player a drug dealer contacted Sammy on Snapchat and sold him a pill laced with fenel killing him at age6 what's your reaction from what you heard from the CEOs today uh I think the CEOs are going to do nothing until they're forced to the leaders of X formerly known as Twi
tter and snap are the only Executives to support legislation that would give parents more control over their children's accounts but lawmakers slamming them along with the CEOs of meta Tik Tok and Discord what they're trying to do is say well don't blame us for the bullying for the suicides for the self- harm they could have taken steps long ago and they've chosen not to met a CEO Mark Zuckerberg facing the harshest criticism there's families of victims here today have you apologized to the vict
ims I would you like to do so now well in a stunning moment Zuckerberg standing to say sorry go through the things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so much and are going to continue doing industry leig efforts to uh to make sure that no one has to go through the types of things that your families have to suff but some parents refuse to accept his apology he is a damn liar is what he is so yes there is growing momentum for legislation that protects kids online but
it's unclear where all of this momentum goes because for years Congress has failed to regulate social media and when I ask Senators why they blame it on lobbying from Big tech companies but that ignores the fact that it's their job to overcome the influence and big corporations and serve the public Diane all right senior White House correspondent Selena Wang thank you and a bipartisan tax cut bill is now headed to the Senate the $78 billion bill passed the house in a rare bipartisan vote among
other things things it expands the child tax credit and restores a set of corporate tax breaks but now it's facing some resistance with Senate Republicans ABC News senior Congressional correspondent Rachel Scott has the latest hi Rachel this could be a GameChanger for millions of Americans across the country it passed with rare bipartisan support in the house lawmakers overwhelmingly approving this $78 billion package it would expand the child tax credit allowing more lowincome families to acces
s it increasing the maximum credit per child from ,600 to $2,000 it will restore several tax breaks for businesses these were resented during the Trump Administration including deductions for research and development boost funding for affordable housing and add funding for disaster relief so this would make sure that those affected by natural disasters like the Ohio train derailment aren't hit with a major tax bill for being compensated for their losses now lawmakers tell us that that expanded c
hild tax credit could help as many as 16 million American families across the country but of course this only passed in the house and it could face major roadblocks over in the Senate you already have some Senate Republicans expressing concern about passing a tax bill in an election year that could be seen as helping President Biden but to be clear there are legislative wins in this package for both parties if they could pull it off it would be a rare bipartisan achievement here in Congress seni
or Congressional correspondent Rachel Scott thank you coming up a teen snowboarder falls from a chairlift how it happened and what officials say slowed her fall also ahead the deadly building collapse at an Idaho airport will caused a hanger to crumble and the Urgent investigation [Music] underway whenever news breaks we are here in Israel a nation at war after that brutal surprise attack by Hamas on the ground in Ukraine reporting from Leon main the scene of a horrific mass shooting ABC News li
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idn't see coming wherever you get your podcasts start here a teenager is in the hospital after falling from a ski lift in California workers and guests at Mammoth Mountain scrambled to help as she dangled from the chair but she fell through their net slamming to the ground below ABC's mola langi has the latest terrifying moments caught on video when a 16-year-old girl dangling from a chairlift on Mammoth Mountain in California drops to the ground below the snowboarders somehow sliding out of her
seat as the chairlift made its way up the mountain the two people sitting next to her on the lift desperately trying to hold on to her everyone was yelling chancing together to stop the LIF I could see almost immediately as it left the loading station at that point the person was already starting to fall off Mammoth resident Jeff Cel seeing it all unfold from the base of the mountain she was dangling and then everyone trying to rush there get under the get under her with a net her grip begins t
o slip as they wait for help to arrive Mammoth Mountain employees and guests scramble to catch the 16-year-old with a net but she falls through hitting the ground officials at Mammoth say five Mammoth Mountain employees and eight guests immediately responded and positioned the deceleration net under the guest when the guest slipped from the grasp of her chairm mates the net decelerated her fall but did not stop it the exact cause of the Fall is unclear but Mammoth officials saying the guest for
unknown reasons was not completely seated I've spent thousands of days on the snow and this is the first time I've ever seen that happen in my life after falling the snowboarder was immediately taken to the hospital her condition remains unknown Diane all right ABC's MOA langi in Summit County Colorado thank you coming up a mystery in the Florida waters why residents in Tampa are complaining about loud noises and what scientists think is causing it but first we are celebrating break dancing how
the dance sty Grew From The Streets of New York City to its big moment at this Summer's Paris Olympics Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you do with this and then a silver minivan pulls up oh and he reaching for the gun and I jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan and get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on AB
C night the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure I just how we get my daughter for school she is she breathing no did you shoot into theiles no sir am I suspect should you Bad Romance the 2020 limited series Monday night on ABC were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with M
uhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed getting you behind the stories as they happen ABC News live P
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g it went mainstream 40 years ago now it's making its debut as an Olympic sport gma3 anchor DeMarco Morgan has more on break dancing Evolution born and bred in the Bronx breaking or break dancing is one of the pillars of hip-hop in the 70s this new style of dance was booming in New York City's predominantly Black and Hispanic communities Tony Mr wave Wesley is one of breaking's pioneers actually I started watching it in the 70s when I saw Michael Jackson doing the robot and dance the dancing mac
hine Tony remembers when breaking exploded on some of the city's toughest streets Webster projects was a very very dangerous project but when they played the music and they brought out their speakers it was just calm everybody was drawn to the music legendary Crews like the Rock Steady Crew Dynamic rockers and Tony's crew the New York City Breakers helped breaking become big in 1984 and hit films like breaking that's good and beat street what I learned to do is not just wave I learned to wave an
d vibrate at the same time and then I just go all the way down and come all the way back up today B boys and be girls are breaking all over the world I can tell you this about breaking the reason why it is global and in every city every just about every country you don't need money you don't need to buy microphones what you need is willpower understanding of the dance and discipline and this August B boys and be girls will be going for the gold when breaking makes its debut on the biggest stage
of them all the Olympics in Paris this is Major for breaking and Hip-Hop in general because coming from nothing to being on a huge stage like the Olympics is like nobody could expect it one of the leading hopefuls to make team USA's Olympic Squad Jeffrey Lewis AKA B boy jeffro Olympics was never on my mind when I started breaking I started breaking Just For the Love of it and the freedom of movement for jeffro being a b boy is more than just head spins and jawdropping mood it's one of those Spor
ts where there's a lot of culture involved so you have to learn the cultural side of things too and for Tony watching young breakers like jeffro he says breaking's in good hands there you go we had a whole lot of flavor and that respect is mutual he's so fluid in it like he looks like water that's pretty crazy he's the only one that's that's styled out Tony has this message for Team USA I would tell them absorb the moment understand where you're at and why and take a step back and gain insight a
nd then take that insight and help the youth in Breaking we have a model that's called Each one teach one so what was given to me I'm giving back to others and hopefully they give it back to the [Music] next gma3 anchor Demarco Morgan thanks for that and soul of a nation is back with exonerated the murder of Malcolm X and 55 years to Justice the award-winning documentary tells a story of a man wrongly convicted of assassinating the black leader in 1965 Muhammad Abdul aiz spent decades in prison
and on parole before finally being exonerated Nightline anchor Byron pittz has a preview the reinvestigation focused on informance including this member of Malcolm security detail Jean Roberts was an undercover cop with the NYPD I want you to try to get into Malcolm's organization which I did and then I started attending meetings the fact that there were informants in the room at the time was completely unknown to the defense New York City Undercover agents in the room FBI agents in the room how
did I spend 20 years in prison the answer is cuz they didn't want to tell the truth you can watch more tonight as soul of a Nation presents exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice at 10:13 p.m. Eastern on ABC and streaming on Hulu coming up new body cam video of the Michigan School shooters parents being arrested why Jennifer crumley's defense attorney say they didn't turn her that she didn't turn herself in and when she could take the stand also ahead getting candid on Mental
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king at Los Angeles on this Thursday and we have a lot of news to get to here's the rundown right now backtack storms are slamming the West Coast with flash flooding reported across the bay area and Northern California overnight now 10 states from Texas to Oregon are on alert for flooding heavy snow damaging winds and huge surf Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the rust movie set his plea cancels his arraignment that was scheduled today mean
while we're learning new details about the film's weapon super supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other charges court documents Show members of the rust crew say they were concerned about Hannah gueris Reed's alleged drug and alcohol use during filming prosecutors say evidence shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first started working on the movie Theus Reed denies those claims and has pleaded not guilty to the charges against her a 16-year-old girl is in the hos
pital after falling from a chair lift at a California ski resort video shows her dangling from the lift at Mammoth Mountain as other Riders tried to hold on to her workers and guests then set up a net beneath her but she fell through it slamming to the ground below it's still not clear how it all happened but Mountain officials say she was not completely seated this comes after another woman spent 15 hours trapped on a gondola at Heavenly ski resort in freezing temperatures a resort executive sa
ys that incident was due to a breakdown in protocols and a New Jersey town is canceling its annual Groundhog Day event due to a shortage in groundhogs it's long time groundhog miltown Mel died a few years ago and organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly impossible they say they've called Wildlife centers zoos and exotic breeders but no luck but not to fear punk Tony Phil will still make his official prediction tomorrow morning at Gobbler's Knob meanwhile at least three people are dea
d and nine others injured after an airplane hanger collapsed at a Boise Airport officials say every everyone who is on site is accounted for now the occupational safety and health administration's trying to figure out what caused the collapse Melissa Adon has more an urgent investigation underway after a deadly building collapse at an airport in Boise Idaho I currently have three people trapped in elevated in the Gen authorities responding to calls around 5:00 P p.m. local time after a private h
anger under construction crumbled at least three people killed and nine injured five in critical condition dozens of police and emergency vehicles on the scene spilling over onto the nearby highway there was a large scale collapse of the building the framework of the building I don't know what caused it it was fairly catastrophic this image capturing what the 39,000 ft hanger and nearby crane looked like less than an hour before the collapse this one taken shortly after the structure mangled and
crane on the ground I heard a best way I could describe it as kind of like a dog whining like there it was very loud and it was very odd noise at the airport and that's when I saw like a house of cards everything just started to fall down in towards itself the company who owns the hanger Jackson Jet Center releasing a statement saying our hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event especially those with loved ones on site when this tragedy occurred and Melissa Don joins me now fro
m boy Idaho with more on this Melissa what's the latest on the investigation into what caused this Diane so many questions floating around right now a sense of huge concern actually just when we were uh leaving our hotel the folks in the lobby there so worried about construction that was something they highlighted to me and that's something that we can show you really here it is really um impressive to see just how expansive this hanger is and then of course when you take take a look of the mate
rial that it was made of there were several cranes that were here as it was an active construction site something possibly could have gone aide that's going to be part of the investigation things like that as to protocol equipment Etc then at the other hand this morning we've been experiencing windy conditions always of course questions as to how weather uh was in effect like late last night Diane and Melissa what do we know about the victims and the survivors here [Applause] oh yeah Diane I mea
n just from what we're learning as to how this structure collapsed it was an intense rescue effort for these firefighters they had to go through the rubble through the debris so we're talking about dozens that were injured unfortunately at least we learned that three people did not survive five then of those folks that made it out of the debris were sent to the hospital they're in critical condition uh but then of course they had also that search going on to make sure that no one else was unacco
unted for that we saw out here in this debris so really a lot here that we hope to find out more details to as the day develops Diane lot of questions there Melissa Adon thank you and prosecutors in the trial of the mother of Miss of a Michigan high school shooter say they are ready to call their last witness today the prosecution showed new body cam video of the moments Jennifer Crumbley and her husband were found hiding in a warehouse after the shooting in 2021 now she's expected to take the s
tand in her own defense Trevor alt has that story The prosecution expected to call their final Witnesses in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley jurors hearing this crucial call which led police to her and her husband shter that are running away they're here after the couple failed to show for their arraignment US Marshals launched a Manhunt finding them some 40 Mi away in a commercial building this police body cam video showing the moment James crumblyy was taken into custody Jennifer nearby Jennifer
's defense attorney argues the couple only left home because of death threats but were planning to turn themselves in but prosecutors also produced Facebook messages Jennifer Crumbley sent and then deleted where she wrote the shooter's life is over I need to focus on saving ours and we're on the run again helicopters not sure where to she sent those messages to Brian m with whom she had an affair Malo testifying on multiple occasions Jennifer Crumbley left work to meet him even though she allege
dly told school officials the morning of the shooting she couldn't take her son home because she needed to return to work is she ever tell you um that she didn't have to be at a meeting later in the day on November the 30th 2021 No in fact she was able to leave work to meet you when it pleased her yes and Trevor Al joins me now from Pontiac Michigan with more Trevor what can we expect to hear from Jennifer Crumbley when she takes the stand well I can tell you what we don't expect to hear Diane a
nd that is Jennifer Crumbley or her attorney claiming she was a perfect mother they have uh fully admitted from the beginning of this trial that her and her husband made a number of mistakes but that's not necessarily criminal and the argument that I think we're going to hear them make is that she was not aware that her son was having mental health problems or that he was a threat to other students we also expect that they're going to hammer the school officials who were there that day who have
also admitted that they did not consider their son was going to be a danger and they also have been saying that the gun which they bought for their son and that he used in this shooting was locked up although some officials and some investigators have already testified that the weapons that they found were kept in a gun safe with the code 0000 now the prosecution has said they've got two more witnesses that they expect to call today after that they are expected to arest Jennifer Crumbley could b
e the first witness called for the defense and everyone is going to be watching that testimony Diane and Trevor prosecutors are trying to keep the shooters medical and psychiatric records from being introduced how significant is that it could be fairly significant Diane mainly there's there's one uh line of argument in which I think that would really play a key role and that's over the fact that Jennifer Crumbley and her defense attorney argues that they were not aware uh her son was in kind of
a downward spiral mentally already in this trial it was introduced that leading up to the shooting he had texted a friend of his saying he'd asked his parents for help for his mental health and essentially he said his dad told him to toughen up and his mom laughed at him when he asked to be taken to a therapist well previously a psychiatrist said that after the shooting he told them he'd never asked his parents for help for his mental health it could be kind of a key component in this involuntar
y manslaughter trial D all right Trevor Alton Pontiac Michigan thank you and historic negotiations are starting today over the price of prescription drugs it's the first time the US government is able to directly negotiate with drug companies until now the drug companies would set their price and the government could only say yes or no but that changed when Congress passed the president's inflation reduction act in 2022 let's bring in ABC's Brad milky host of the start here podcast for more on t
his Brad how significant in this is this change and how will it work well policy makers say it's hugely significant because think about how this usually works with your insurance company right when the insurance company says hey go to your Walgreens your drug is approved it's covered that only comes after intensive negotiations right that they've had behind the scenes where you know the drug maker says hey these pills cost 10 bucks each the insurance company says okay but like we're going to sen
d you patients in bulk why don't you give them to us for five bucks each and the patient might never actually see the difference but it makes a big difference to whether the insurer is making a profit or not Medicare has never had that opportunity though the US government has never been allowed to actually negotiate they either have to take the sticker price that the company says here's what you owe or they have to walk away from the table that all changes starting today I talked to the HHS secr
etary Javier Basera who's basically leading this now that it's legal and they are you know very hopeful that this will lower drug prices across the board what kind of drugs could be covered here and who will be able to buy them at these new lower prices well so there's a a list of 10 drugs that are starting today they basically sent out like they're opening bid right to the drug makers saying you know and these are drugs that treat you know they're the 10 most prescribed drugs for Medicare so th
ey cover diabetes you know heart disease cancer and so the hope is you know that they'll sort of haggle over this over the next about year and a half in 2026 is when you'd actually see the list price change for this the question you asked though Diane about like who will save money that's kind of the interesting question here because think about how it works with your insurer you don't really notice the price difference when you're the person on the insurance roles right like so the Medicare rec
ipients they might see a difference the T you know everyone else it's not like you and I are on Medicare it's not like Uncle Sam's negotiating on our interests what Javier baser told me is they're hopeful a few things will happen one they say Medicare the system will save a bunch of money and when that happens that means Medicare recipients will get better treatment from other things right they'll have more money to treat you for for other stuff two if Medicare is saving money the taxpayers save
money that's where you and I come in right the taxpayers across the country save money three this is the untested part is he's hopeful that the drug prices will actually go down for everyone that you can't just charge Medicare recipients this low low price and then charge the insurance company's higher like private insurers higher prices so the idea and this is kind of untested is that this will actually lower prices for everyone all right we will see and before you go I have to ask you about t
his story out of Tampa Florida there's some sort of mysterious noise coming from the water what is happening okay so this is wild because for the last several years on and off residents in South Tampa have noticed this weird kind of a thumping sound is almost like a bass we actually have the the audio here if you want to listen to it right so it's not even like it's kind of like someone has their like car radio on with yeah or like it's coming from a car some people it was coming from the water
these are all Waterfront communities and people were like it's coming from all around me like Windows were shaking they couldn't quite figure out what it is is it a clerb is it you know is it coming from somebody's speaker well it turns out it's fish having sex no this is fish mating this is the the black drum fish that migrates and mates in South Flor in uh in in South T Tampa among other communities good for you Dr this is the mating call of the male fish and it creates this weird like humming
noise and so now this woman she's hooked on this story she has put together a GoFundMe for a marine biologist to put microphones under the water just to confirm that this is actually it I'd love to know if the human birth rate in Tampa goes up after this if if it's kind of contagious right right we know the fish are into it and it's very rhythmic right and so it really sounds like music it's driving people insane and yet if it's the fish what are you going to do so I guess it's just kind of lik
e we're just kind of figure out if you know we all feel a little bit more Co fish going to drop after listening to this that is so funny all right ABC's Brad milky thank you for that I'm blushing now and to hear Brad dive into more stories like these check out the St here podcast new episodes drop every weekday morning at 6 Eastern wherever you get your podcasts coming up a raap beef a WRA beef gone too far why some say Nicki Minaj got too personal in her new disc toward Meg the stallion and why
security is now involved also ahead Travis Kelce opens up about his love story the big game and the challenges on and off the field how he says he and Taylor Swift are supporting each [Music] other tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure next Thursday you know it's going to be a party when Zara Larson lights up the m
orning in a live GMA [Music] concert next Thursday only on Good Morning America's concert series sponsored by Planet Fitness Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you do to this and then a silver minivan pulls up out and he reached for the gun and I jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020
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rst a Houston area Cemetery where Megan the stallion's mother is buried is reportedly increasing security after a feud with Nicki Minaj Nikki fans allegedly released the address of the cemetery and reportedly encouraged others to desecrate the rapper's mother's grave site this comes after the two rappers allegedly took Digs at each other in their latest diss tracks Reports say nothing has happened to the grave site but officials say they are on high alert I want to bring an ABC News contributor
and SiriusXM radio host Mike m and ABC News contributor senior entertainment reporter for ESPN's andscape Kelly Carter for more on this Kelly Megan's song hiss and Nikki's song Bigfoot with both released in the past week now neither song directly names the other but fans are kind of drawing their own conclusions especially after Nikki made a few posts on Instagram so break this down for us how did we end up with security being heightened at a cemetery it's gone too far hasn't it you know quite f
rankly when when Megan came out with her song and and in the time that she has talked about it most recently on The Breakfast Club she said she is just talking about anyone who is against her she's not naming anyone's name now while Nikki may not have directly named you know Megan the stallion it is obvious who she is talking about and it's deeply personal and um it's it's bad it's bad it sure looks that way Mike diss tracks though are not unusual in the rap world at all so what's different here
yeah diss tracks is the foundation of hip-hop music going back to its origin um you think about like from the rockan Shante days right and being in the ciphers in the Bronx and leading up to it it was always meant to be this very spirited battle ever since the beginning even you think about DJ k herk um and in K La Rock days in the foundation of when hip hop began it's always been this friendly competition it's always been this friendly battle all the way into current times when you had the inf
amous uh East Coast versus West Coast with tup pox Shakur and Biggie Smalls and then that uh beef ended up going to the next iteration between Jay-Z and Nas right from the Takeover to Ether and so these were always like these big songs they were always big singles it's what made Hip-Hop Hip-Hop but as we go into this new era of social media and as we go into this new era of fandom where everyone has these super fans where before the beefs were neutral and everyone just loved the idea of dis song
s but now the fans have made it so personal um and become more personal attacks that it's infused the beef even further to where we are right now with Megan the stallion and Nicki Minaj to where the beef has just uh got to the point where it's personal um lines have been crossed when you talk about the dece uh with Megan's deceased mother and then also two is getting personal now when you talk about sexual or predatorial Behavior Uh inerting Megan's Law now Kelly Nicki Minaj and Meg the stallion
actually collaborated on a song Just in 2019 a lot of fans say they didn't even know that they had a falling out and Nikki also had an issue with cardi B in the past so what do you make of that is this how you get publicity for new music or what's happening here it's definitely one way to publicity for new music isn't it you know I really think that what we're seeing is is Nikki who has long been the queen of of rap music um potentially feeling a little bit threatened by some of this younger ta
lent coming in she's been very vocal about her feelings about cardi B and from from a fan account doesn't appear to have loved that that Megan collaborated with cardi B on on an album after she worked with Meg the stallion in in in 2019 Hot Roll summer and so now all of a sudden we're hearing a lot of those grievances come out you know in this in this new disc music that that Nicki Minaj just released all right Kelly Carter Mike Muse Mike you mentioned Biggy and Tupac we know sometimes this beef
can cross from the music and have significant consequences in real life so hoping they can figure out how to settle this one Mike Kelly thank you both and get ready to see a lot more of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift in the next 10 days Swift will be at the Grammys this Sunday and back on tour next week and then it's time for the Super Bowl where Kelce and the Kansas City Chiefs will face the 49ers ABC News will reev has more on how the two say they are handling all the attention it it's caught
by Kelsey for the touchdown 10 days away from the chance to win his third Super Bowl Kansas City Chief's tight end Travis Kelce is locked in on the big game football is my main focus right now there's a lot of people counting on me in this building in this city in this organization this year in Las Vegas there will be a lot of fans locked in on Kelsey not just for his Hall of Fame worthy talent and resume but for his relationship with Taylor Swift Kelsey candidly sharing the challenges of this b
righter Spotlight on the Pat McAfee show it's exciting for me but it was all brand new man I I couldn't tell you I mean I've from having the paparazzi follow me every single day in the work to you know just uh everybody having their having my name on their talk show every single day whether it's Sports whether it's not Sports uh you know it's just been a it's been a crazy crazy ride I could have never anticipated man but um I'm having fun with it Kelsey and Swift breaking the internet with their
affectionate onfield celebration after the Chiefs clinched their spot in the Super Bowl Swift's Presence at Chiefs games has repeatedly caused a frenzy though she's typically shown on screen for around just 25 seconds per game according to a New York Times analysis some have called it a dist action Kelsey says he and Taylor do hear the hate we're just uh we're two people in a relationship supporting each other and having fun with it man it's it's nothing more than that she's dealt with it forev
er and we hear it but we hardly ever talk about it it's it's nothing to even talk about headed to their fourth Super Bowl in five years Kelsey knows he and the Chiefs have a Target on their backs we got to become that that team that has the grit and has the fire in their heart to be able to find ways to win at the end of ball games man man we just got to we got to feed that beast and turn turn that into being you know the villain of the NFL and sure enough man we're uh we're right back to the Su
per Bowl with that kind of mentality man he insists no matter what he's staying focused this is my number one focus at the time to be able to you know uh and on top of that I have a it's in my heart to be able to pour everything I got out there on the field will re thank you coming up which of Beyonce and Jay-Z's kids are musically inclined alici Keys is weighing in and our will Gans is singing that t [Music] [Applause] next were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the a
ward-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC in mccac one of the biggest unclimbed rock faces on the planet now I'm starting to get very excited if we man
age to climb in CLE it'll be the biggest first sound we've ever done oh my God so scary ultimately what's at stake with climbing this is not not what I signed up for as always your [Music] life tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure inside that pen is a slice of human we're in I've never seen a place like this in my l
ife oh my god [Music] look [Music] wow reporting from federal court in downtown Miami I'm Aaron kerki wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News [Music] [Applause] live welcome back to ABC News live first it is time now for the tea where we break down some of the Buzzy stories people are talking about our friend will Gans is here to help us out we'll spill that tea I got some Long Island tea yeah for you this morning Long Island tea Long Island tea Long Island ice tea i
s the best tea well not at this time of the morning but a certain kind of Long Island tea for sure we begin with breaking Billy Joel news people the piano man dropping his first new song in 17 years overnight it's actually his first new pop song since 1993 it's called turn the lights back on let's take a listen I see [Music] you as we in the darkness did I wait too long to turn the light back now we don't know if the new song is indicative of a new album to come but the 74 year-old is set to per
form this weekend at the Grammys and maybe he'll make an announcement while he's there the number one comment on this brand new YouTube video I just want to share it because it really touched me I'm 60 years old Billy Joel is nearly 75 with this new song Time Slips Away and I'm 19 again laying on the living room floor in front of the console stereo with my eyes closed and my parents are here again in the other room letting Billy's music fill the house thank you Billy Joel oh my gosh that is beau
tiful isn't that so sweet I I was actually at his show in December when he kind of hinted that he was coming out with new music so I've been waiting for this episode of the te but I love going to his shows because you see Generations they're together all singing every word to every song it's so awesome I love that he sounds amazing he sounds the same amazing all right speaking of the gramm's music's biggest night just days away now the Grammy Awards announcing a star studded lineup as awards are
handed out on Sunday night taking the stage after celebrating her 70th birthday this week Oprah Winfrey along with Christina agilera and Merill Streep so yes this means Oprah Merill and Taylor Swift are all going to be in the same room at the same time which is a will gan's fever dream of the highest degree also presenting on Sunday Lenny Kravitz maluma and liel Richie Trevor Noah serves as host again this year with performances from sisa Olivia Rodrigo and Joanie Mitchell by the way if Taylor
Swift wins album of the Year this year she'll be the most awarded artist ever in that category beating a record that's currently held by Frank Sinatra Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon that's a lot a lot to look forward to on Sunday night also excited for this Garrett Morris a small screen Legend who starred in sitcoms like the Jamie Fox show Martin and the weigh-in Brothers being honored today in a very big way on the west coast Morris getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame after a career stre
tching back to the 60s when he worked on Broadway before becoming the first black cast member of SNL in 1975 the ceremony today also falls on his 87th birthday good for him well deserved happy birthday to you Mr Morris and finally to queen bee and her family where it turns out duh the musical Jean is very strong you don't say you don't say Alicia Keys telling Access Hollywood that Bee's youngest daughter roomy is a singer just like her mom Alicia says that she loves spending time with the Carter
family made up of course of Jay-Z Beyonce their daughter Blue Ivy and their twins who are six years old sir and roomie adding that roomie sings All of Alicia Key's songs she's her little pumpkin pie she's so adorable this coming of course after Blue Ivy made her stage debut with mom over the summer in the Renaissance World Tour and I'm going to say here Blue Ivy kind of stole the show so now it's room's turn which is hard to do when you're standing next to Beyonce exactly it was my favorite par
t of the tour though watching Beyonce watch Blue Ivy all right we're out of time will Gans love you bye love you bye cheers love you bye we'll be right back the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we're bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surgery as a man it's like man I wish I was taller we see who are taller as the alpha I went from 5'9 right now wish shoes I'm 61 everybody's freaked out by it on the b
asis of what is called leg lengtheners you only live once so go for it the big business of getting tall now streaming on Hulu tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure from America's number one news comes the allnew ABC News app breaking news Incredible video faster smarter and customizable to your interests if you love
being in the no you're going to love this experience the allnew ABC News app download it now Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you do with this and then as silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun and jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC were you invo
lved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of KH Islam who didn't live to see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC hi I'm Dian M today on ABC News live first the US shoots
down missiles and drones in the Middle East when the Pentagon could retaliate for the attack back in Jordan as families of the service members killed speak with the president the rare bipartisan vote on tax cuts house lawmakers on both sides of the aisle pass a roughly $79 billion package how supporters say it could help families and businesses and why it's facing some resistance in the Senate back-to-back storms are slamming the West Coast flooding damaging winds and heavy snow are all on the r
adar where the storms are headed and when they'll let up plus we're kicking off black history his month with an important conversation Michael Strahan speaks to some of the country's top black athletes about mental health what they're saying about the moment they knew they needed help and what they want others to know we begin with US forces destroying houthi drones in a self-defense air strike in Yemen according to the US Central Command unmanned aerial vehicles and a ground control station run
by Iranian backed Rebel groups presented an imminent threat to Merchant vessels and the US Navy this comes as president President Biden spoke to families of US service members killed in Jordan offering prayers at a breakfast in the capital Chief Global Affairs correspondent Martha radit is in Jordan with the latest the US finalizing retaliatory strikes for Sunday's drone hit here in Jordan that killed three American soldiers and wounded 47 others the majority of the Wounded National Guard soldi
ers the deadly strike one of nearly 170 attacks aimed at Americans in the region by Iranian back militants the latest in the Red Sea the US conducting self-defense strikes in Yemen on a houy drone Ground Control station and 10 one-way drones just hours earlier the USS Carney shooting down an anti-ship ballistic missile fired by the group in addition to three Iranian drones in less than an hour US forces also striking down a houthi surface to air missile Wednesday which officials say presented an
imminent threat to US aircraft operation ing in the area this after the USS Gravely intercepted a houy missile heading toward the ship splashing into the sea within only one mile of the warship the closest call yet now all eyes waiting for the response to the tragic attack in Jordan with the White House for the first time blaming the ironback militant group Islamic resistance in Iraq an umbrella group of numerous militias the Pentagon preparing to to unleash a multi-day multi-target campaign bi
gger than anything seen this far in hopes deterrence will prevent more loss of life President Biden calling Onida and sha Sanders whose 24-year-old daughter Kennedy was killed in the attack I know uh you know everybody uh I I know there's nothing anybody can say or do he the pain I've been there yes sir we understand the parents overcome with emotion when the president reveals how their daughter will be honored we're promoting her poly to Sergeant oh wow that is the best news I've heard today th
ank you so much you don't know how much that means to us well I tell you what it means a lot to lot to me my son spent a year in Iraq until I lost him and uh I uh you know 1% 1% of all these is the want that uh take care of 99% of us such heartbreaking scenes the president is not expected to hit Iran directly fearing the conflict in this region will escalate but it has already spread far beyond the borders of Gaza Diane Chief Global Affairs correspondent Martha Ritz thank you and ABC News Nation
al Security and defense analyst Mick mroy joins me now for more on this mick how significant are the new threats so I think they're very significant and we can see this war expanding even though the United States certainly didn't want this to happen it's now a regional conflict uh from the Red Sea in the Gulf of Aiden and obviously in Syria Iraq and Jordan so I do think the United States is going to have a significant response it has to have that it's clear that their actions our actions before
did not deter these proxy groups and it'll only take I think strength to really get to that level of deterrence there is some concern that the irgc has been leaving uh these areas as we wait to uh see this retaliation but certainly we would hope that we do uh essentially eliminate or at least seriously degrade their capabilities to keep attacking uh US servicemen and women in the region Mick what's taking so long for the US to retaliate I think it's probably because they really expect this to be
very expansive and they had to get uh certain Assets in the region to do so uh but I am quite frankly a little confused because I think the Pentagon and certainly uh when I was there uh and I don't think it's changed much always has targets ready to go for the president of the United States to retaliate especially when it's a near constant attack on US forces so I think it was likely to get more assets into the region but I do think there's some concern uh that the uh the Iranians essentially h
ave removed most of their personnel and a lot of their assets uh in the meantime but hopefully this does do some serious damage to their ability uh to to support their proxy forces and hopefully the proxy forces have not left so they will certainly get a lot of the response for these for the killings of these uh brave Soldiers mck the war between Israel and Hamas has already spread beyond the borders of Gaza so how's the us working with allies to try to calm tensions in the region so I think uh
primarily is to build a coalition if you look at what's happening in the Red Sea they've built this Coalition Prosperity Guardian which is really trying to separate it from uh the conflict in Gaza and really focus on the freedom of navigation and the impact uh that's having worldwide and not just on us allies but uh if you look China as has really been damaged by this and hopefully they being close to Iran can put some pressure on Iran to withdraw their support uh because they're providing all t
hese Advanced weapon systems that are hitting these ships uh to the houthis so so I think the United States is trying to build coalitions and then going through traditional adversaries and pushing them uh to have more influence against Iran or on Iran I should say uh to reduce their support to these proxy forces which could pull them into a war that I don't think they want to be in all right ABC News National Security and defense analyst MC mroy thank you and defense secretary Lloyd Austin is se
t to give a press conference as the US prepares to retaliate for the deadly attack on US troops in Jordan it's Austin's First Media availability since his prostate surgery and Hospital stay both of which were kept secret from the White House and the public for days that press conference is set to begin within the hour and we will bring it to you live when it happens decide whether to impose new regulations on social media platforms to protect children lawmakers grilled the CEOs of meta Tik Tock
X and other social media companies about how the platforms protect kids from sexual predators addictive features bullying SU suicide and eating disorders the packed hearing was filled with families affected by the issue some holding up photos of the children they lost ABC News senior White House correspondent Selena Wang has the latest growing momentum in Congress to finally protect kids online you have blood on your hands you have a product you have a product that's killing people after an expl
osive hearing on Capitol Hill with the CEOs of five tech companies we know these kids are dying your platforms really suck at policing themselves Mr Zuckerberg what the hell were you thinking the grief of parents palpable in the room holding up photos of their children who they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media children like Sammy Chapman his father describing him as a hardworking football player a drug dealer contacted Sammy on Snapchat and sold him a pill laced with fen
el killing him at age 16 what's your reaction from what you heard from the CEOs today uh I think the CEOs are going to do nothing until they're forced to the leaders of X formerly known as Twitter and snap are the only Executives to support legislation that would give parents more control over their children's accounts but lawmakers slamming them along with the CEOs of meta Tik Tok and Discord what they're trying to do is say well don't blame us for the bullying for the suicides for the self har
they could have taken steps long ago and they've chosen not to meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg facing the harshest criticism there's families of victims here today have you apologized to the victims I would you like to do so now well in a stunning moment Zuckerberg standing to say sorry KN for that to go through the things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so much and are going to continue doing industry leig efforts to to uh to make sure that no one has to go through t
he types of things that your families had to suffer but some parents refuse to accept his apology he is a damn liar is what he is so yes there is growing momentum for legislation that protects kids online but it's unclear where all of this momentum goes because for years Congress has failed to regulate social media and when I ask Senators why they blame it on lobbing from Big tech companies but that ignores the fact that it's their job to overcome the influence of big corporations and serve the
public Diane senior White House correspondent Selena Wang thank you and ABC's J O'Brien joins me now from Capitol Hill Jay where does a social media fight go from here well there as Selena mentioned there have been bills over years really to regulate various aspects of social media a common threat in Congress is that lawmakers feel that they're too late to the game the genie is out of the bottle in terms of regulating social media now yesterday's hearing the exact topic of it was child sexual ex
ploitation online right so if you just talk about that one element of the broader issues that social media plays in our society there have been at least five bills bipartisan bills that have been voted on in that very committee where they held that hearing yesterday and they haven't gone anywhere just one of them is a good example it would give a parents of those or other victims of uh people who have been had negative impacts of child sexual exploitation online to sue the social media companies
who run those applications again that hasn't gone anywhere in Congress again because lawmakers say of lobbying from Big tech companies but the reality here is Diane additionally when any one of these things catches fire and it does get momentum as we saw yesterday eventually whatever the reason being despite the fact that lawmakers say it's from Big Tech lobbyists and lobbyists that they do want to work with Congress it just doesn't go anywhere because other issues arise here on Capitol Hill th
at Tamp down its energy meanwhile a bipartisan tax cut bill is now headed to the Senate the $78 billion bill passed the house in this rare bipartisan vote but now it's facing some resistance in the Senate Jay why what are the sticking points well firstly you just have to talk about how important what happened in the house was last night think of it this way the House of Representatives voted to expand the child tax credit and provide tax incentives for businesses in a bipartisan way 350 votes th
at's a partisan blowout and they did that in an election year I've talked to Republicans and Democrats who say that's a serious serious accomplishment that's aimed at additionally giving those tax break to businesses pulling a lot of families with children out of poverty the reason it's hitting some sticking points in the Senate is that the Senate a wants to start getting involved in the process of vetting this legislation despite the fact it was brokered by a senator and a member of the House o
f Representatives and B we've heard from Republicans whove said plainly that they are concerned concerned that by passing this bill in the Senate it would give President Biden a win Chuck Grassley a prominent Republican in the Senate said he's concerned it would look like the president giving checks to voters in an election year so politics could really derail this thing again all right J O'Brien on Capitol Hill thank you and now to the major storm slamming the West Coast emergency teams are goi
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n the baraya and in Santa Barbara County so this is with storm one there are flood watches up there are winter storm warnings and watches that go all the way into Colorado and Wyoming high wind alerts into West Texas so again this one is going to kind of blow through throughout the day today into the desert Southwest tomorrow and so you could even end up with some rain and Phoenix are Tucson some of the higher elevations pick up the snow that's why those winter storm warnings were there but then
it's late weekend when we really start to wrap up a second storm and this one looks even colder core and it looks like it will stick around longer so that will end up dropping even more rain especially in Southern California landslides are of great concern a lot of the Earth has already started to move it's already on the move to 10 in of rain possible along much of the California coast in the sier Nevada they desperately need snow because they're only at about 50% of average uh for the winter
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ately struggling with their mental health I'm learning how to live a new life in this new pain in this journey of grief that's like a roller coaster what a play back at the 13 yd line by Solomon Thomas in 2018 New York Jet's defensive lineman Solomon Thomas had just finished his rookie year shortly after his sister Ella died by Suicide died that's what he says his mental health struggles began I grew up the mentality hey like you know be a man be tough like push through it you know after my sist
er died I had all these emotions and feelings I had never felt before like deep depression deep guilt for Olympian track and field athlete Anna cochrell wow Anna cockro went Blowing by it was her third year of college when she began to struggle a lot of the typical depression symptoms that you hear about just didn't apply to me I was doing all the things you're supposed to do and still felt terrible and for three-time NBA Allstar towns no hesitation SW Timberwolves Center Carl Anthony towns it w
as after losing multiple family members including his beloved mother to covid-19 that his world came to a stand still it was the first time in a way the world was silent and in that silence I realized that in this whole process I never took time to take care of myself and I got to a point where I had to start realizing I was deteriorated their struggles as unique as their path to Healing my college coach pulled me into her office and she was like what is going on you're smiling and there's no li
ght behind your eyes someone else recognized it before you really wanted to acknowledge it absolutely and I just broke down and she called one of the therapist that day and was like when is your earliest appointment and is going to come in for me my general manager John Lynch came up to me and said hey s like uh we have help for you if you need and it was that night that I went home and I faced myself in the mirror and um from that I started going to therapy I Know Carl you did it what some peop
le probably call it unconventional way you didn't go to therapy no if it wasn't for Arie he was the head of the medical Department we've had a close connections he's known me for so long he knew my mother he would talk about two hours a day and just I just tell him how I feel tell them the the mental struggles I'm going through the thoughts I'm having and I felt very comfortable in having those tough conversations with someone that was familiar to me there are many barriers to having these tough
conversations in the black community among them stigma access high cost and shame statistics show that only one in three black adults with mental illness obtain treatment how did your teammates react how did your family react I kind of told them after the fact but once I started going and started feeling better that's what opened the door to the conversation because there's a noticeable difference therapy is great when you're in the crisis but I found the most benefit from it when I was going c
onsistently because sometimes you need to get to the root of the problem and not just treat the symptoms I think at first my parents they just didn't quite understand like I think there was a lot of struggle for them of thinking what did we do wrong did we make a mistake and having to reassure them it's almost like a new a new era because you know I I didn't have parents who were were going to be into therapy it was like if you feeling that way you suck it up and you get through it you figure it
out old school and not that they didn't care about our feelings they didn't want to hear our feelings they didn't know how to handle it themselves absolutely therapy saved my life for me my mom really encouraged me to go to therapy and I was really resistant I was reluctant your goal is to always be the best you that you can ever be that's why therapy is so important because it helped me find out who I was like what does my brain patterns revert to when I get anxious or when I get sad and how d
o I break that I have teammates who they'll come up to me and they'll talk about you know their anxiety or or or some deep times they went through and I I'll encourage like hey man it really sounds like you need some professional help and they're just like ah I I can't do that you know this is 2024 now and we're having this conversation I came into the NFL 1993 and it was definitely a totally different world way back then as far as your mental health it was wasn't even addressed in so many ways
it was definitely a stigma of Shame there embarrassment that you were struggling I felt a lot of shame I was really embarrassed when you're stuck in that cycle you feel so empty you feel so alone and you feel like you're the only one going through it to a point where you even feel like you're crazy and and you're not you're human what do you think are the biggest misconceptions when it comes to mental health in the black community the weakness of showing vulnerability I think speaking very broad
ly like as a black community we are very protective of our image as a community so I think there's some shame and some stigma of wanting to keep things in house for fear of what it will look like if it goes beyond our homes or our families I think it's a generational trait I think so too because for years if if we were to say that and our ancestors did that we were even more devalued than we we already were it's something that has plagued our community because of how strong we had to be for so l
ong just to get the rights we refuse to allow anything to ruin what we've built see as the weakness and if one person's weak then the community is weak I guess but what can we do to change it how can we change it things like this yeah moment like it's like this being able to have four African Americans on a couch here talking openly about our our struggle and and how we've dealt with it Anna we know for black women that their pain is truly often ignored so how does this plant to your mental heal
th journey and your advocacy I think that's a big reason for my advocacy at all to speak specifically to black women's experiences and just letting them know you don't have to take everything on your pain your experience your voice your struggles your success they all matter why is it important for us sitting here today athlet successful to share and talk about mental health cuz I feel fans think we're the most got it together people in the world and got absolutely no problems for me I believe l
ike having these conversations and and pushing this message out is so important because there are so many people out there're struggling so if we can have this conversation have people see that they're not the only ones feeling like this um these conversations can save these lives I would say as I got older you just realized that self-care truly is the biggest gift you could give yourself in a way it's the cheapest most expensive gift you could be ever gifted I look at this at sometimes a tough
topic but I look at this conversation as a celebration yeah the celebration of being free enough confident enough strong enough supported enough to share how you truly feel to the world you're serving a greater good by being here our thanks to Michael Strahan Solomon Thomas Anna cochrell and Carl Anthony towns for that conversation coming up it's time to get your Super Bowl party ready we have the food forecast and where you can score some savings Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder
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n it'll be Austin's first media availability since his prostate surgery and Hospital stay both of which were kept secret from the White House in public for days let's bring in White House correspondent Mary Alis parks along with ABC News National Security and defense analyst MC mroy for more uh Marian what's the latest on potential retaliation for the attack in Jordan yeah the White House saying that this is going to be a multi-step process I was in the White House briefing yesterday and uh Admi
ral John Kirby the National Security spokesperson said that we shouldn't expect that the first uh strike or the first response that we see from the administration from the US might be the last they are expecting this could be multiple days um and and a sort of a multi-pronged campaign us officials also telling us that they could strike back in multiple countries um potenti in Syria Iraq even Yemen a possibility um so we are watching it very closely of course I was also pushing them on whether or
not the the delay here I mean it's been more than three days uh could be letting these Iranian backed militias um recalibrate or or move assets out of the region the White House wouldn't confirm any of that sort of intelligence yet Diane all right and it looks like uh the defense secretary is getting ready to speak everyone for being here today it's my pleasure to welcome Secretary of Defense ly J Austin I thir of the p on briefing room the secretary will deliver opening remarks and then take y
our questions please note that I will moderate those questions and call on journalists so i' ask that you raise your hand if you have a question wait to be recognized uh and I'll I'll call upon you with that over to you Mr secretary thanks Pat good morning it's been a difficult few days for the Department of Defense and the entire department is united in our outrage and sorrow over the death of three US service members on Sunday in Jordan we all mourn the loss of three Army Reserve soldiers serv
ing at Tower 22 Sergeant William J Rivers age 46 Sergeant Kennedy L Sanders age 24 and Sergeant bana a Moffett age 23 our thoughts and prayers are with their families and their loved ones and we know that this grief will never leave them and we hope that they know that the Department's love and support will never leave them either we're also praying for the other American troops who were wounded now our teammates were killed when a one-way attack drone struck their living quarters and we continu
e to gather the facts about this deadly attack our fallen soldiers had a vital mission to support operation inherent resolve and to work with our partners to ensure the lasting defeat of Isis they risk their lives and lost their lives to keep their fellow Americans safe from Global terrorism the president will not tolerate attacks on American troops and neither will I our teammates were killed by radical militias backed by Iran and operating inside Syria and Iraq in the aftermath of the vile Ham
as terrorist assault on Israel on October 7th terrorist groups backed by Iran and funded by Iran have tried to create even more turmoil including the houthis attacking commercial shipping in the Red Sea so this is a dangerous moment in the Middle East we will continue to work to avoid a wider conflict in the region but we will take all necessary actions to defend the United States our interest and our people and we will respond when we choose where we choose and how we choose now that's what eve
ryone here is focused on but in my first week back in the Pentagon I did want to address my recent Hospital stay and some of the issues around it I'm recovering well but as you can see I'm still recovering I'm still having some leg pain and doing physical therapy to get past it I'm deeply grateful to my doctors and the nursing staff at Walter Reed and I very much appreciate all the good wishes but I want to be Crystal Clear we did not handle this right and I did not handle this right I should ha
ve told the president about my cancer diagnosis I should have also told my team and the American public and I take full responsibility I apologize to my teammates and to the American people now I want to make it very clear that there were no gaps in authorities and no risk to the Department's command and control at every moment either I or the deputy secretary was in full charge and we've already put in place some new procedures to make sure that any lapses in notification don't happen in the fu
ture if the deputy secretary needs to temporarily assume the off the duties of my office she she and several White House offices will be immediately notified including the White House Situation Room and so will key officials across the department and the reason for that Assumption of Duties will be included in writing now I want you all to know that to know why this happened I was being treated for prostate cancer the news shook me and I know that it shakes so many others especially in the black
community it was a gut punch and frankly my first instinct was to keep it private I don't think it's news that I'm a pretty private guy I never like burdening others with my problems it's just not my way but I've learned from this experience so taking this kind of job means losing some of the Privacy that most of us expect the American people have a right to know if their leaders are fa facing health challenges that might affect their ability to perform their duties even temporarily so A Wider
Circle should have been notified especially the president I'll take your questions today but as you know we've got an ongoing internal review as well as a DOD Inspector General review that we fully support so I may have to discuss some aspects later now let me back up a bit as you know on 22nd December I had a minimally invasive procedure to cure me of my recently diagnosed prostate cancer and then I hit some bad luck during what is usually a pretty easy recovery on January 1st I felt severe leg
pain and and pain in the abdomen and hip and that evening an ambulance took me to Walter eat the doctors found that I had several issues that needed treatment including a bladder infection and ab abdominal problems on January 2nd I was also experiencing fever and chills and shallow breathing the medical staff decided to transfer me to the critical care unit for several days for for closer monitoring and better team care by my doctors and the deputy secretary assumed the functions and duties of
my office which happens when necessary her senior staff my senior staff and the joint staff were notified of this through our regular email notification Pro procedures and I never directed anyone to keep my January hospitalization from the White House on January 5th I resumed my functions and duties as secretary from the hospital I was functioning functioning well mentally but not so well physically and so I stayed at Walter readed for additional time uh for additional treatment including physic
al therapy for some lingering issues with with my leg now I'm offering all of this as an explanation and not an excuse I am very proud of what we've achieved at the department over the past three years but we fell short on this one as a rule I don't talk about conversations with my boss but I can tell you I've apologized directly to President Biden and I've told him that I'm deeply sorry for not letting him know immediately that I received a heavy diagnosis and was getting treatment and he has r
esponded with a Grace and warm heart that anyone who knows President Biden would expect and I'm grateful for his full confidence in me and finally I also missed an opportunity to send a message on an important public health issue and I'd like to fix that right now I was diagnosed with a highly treatable form of cancer a pretty common one one and eight American men will get prostate cancer one in six black men will get it and so I'm here with a clear message to other men especially older men get
screen get your regular checkups prate cancer has a glass jaw if your doctor can spot it they can treat it and beat it and the side effects that I experienced are highly highly unusual so you can count on me to set a better example on this issue today and for the rest of my life and again I want to thank everyone for their well wishes and their great support and with that I'll take your questions thank you Mr secretary first question will go to Associated Press Lita thank you thank you Mr secret
ary you said that uh you never directed anyone to keep this from the White House did you direct your staff or others to keep it from the public and from other senior staff members and if you did not has anyone been disciplined for doing something that you did not tell them to do and then just quickly on uh Iraq and and Syria what is your response to the KH statement today that um they are postponing or not doing any more attacks thank you good morning Lita good morning to answer your question on
whether or not I directed uh my staff to conceal my hospitalization from anyone else the answerers no um in terms of uh my my response to K's statement um we always listen to what people are saying but we watch what they do and and again uh actions are everything um so uh we'll see what happens in the future okay next question little go to Fox Jennifer um sir during that time that you were in the Intensive Care Unit there was a air strike carrier out a drone strike against a um an Iraqi uh lead
er of a militia how is it that um do you regret that the authorities were not clear at that point and um what can you explain about what was going through your mind at that time and then separately there's been a lot of telegraphing about targeting and responding to the Drone strike so much so that the Iranian proxy leaders have left the country some are back in in tran um has there been too much telegraphing or is the point not to kill any Iranian commanders [Music] um regarding the strike on t
he eth Jen um that strike was uh was planned and I I had made recommendations to the president on uh on actions that we should should carry out uh and and president made a decision uh and based upon that decision authorities were pushed down to the Central Command Commander uh and as you know a strike like that uh you can't pick the precise time when that strike is going to take place you want to minimize collateral damage you want to make sure that you have everything right and so uh the subord
inate Commander had the controls on that particular strike so that uh I was very involved in the in the in planning and the recommendations for that and we knew that that would take place uh within a matter of days um in terms of uh telegraphing about strikes and whether or not um people uh leave or would have left you know I won't speculate uh on on any of that I would just tell you that uh you know we will have a a multi-tiered response uh and uh and again we have the ability to uh uh to respo
nd uh a number in a number of times depending on what the situation is okay let's go to Reuters Phil um what did your Deputy know about your condition and when did you do it yeah Phil I I think uh in terms of what she knew and didn't know I think we should probably let uh that U come out of the review I think I I won't speculate on what she knew and did not know uh based upon what information was passed to to her again I think the details of that will come out of uh one or both of those reviews
okay Gordon Mr secretary um you said you didn't direct your staff to hide this truth or or lie but did you create a culture of secrecy that then uh the staff kind of interpreted your your desires or your um intentions when it came to you getting set yeah you know I I uh uh I don't think I've created a culture of secrecy uh I think uh there will be um security officers there will be other staff members who who may perceive that uh they're doing things in my best interest and you know I can't I ca
n't uh predict or or determine or ascertain what those things may be I just know what I said and uh and did not say and of course uh you know I have a great staff and and they always uh want to intend to do the right things but in terms of what one may or may not have perceived at any one point in time I won't speculate on that okay let's go to ABC hi sir um thank you for doing this and I think on behalf of all of us here We Wish You a speedy uh recovery um I'd like to ask you about the current
situation in the Middle East the the message has been deterrence deterring the attacks by the who these deterring that attacks by the militias um has deterrence failed and if you are going to retaliate at the time and place of you're choosing is that not an escalation particularly given all the rhetoric with Iran and an question on your recovery sir um at any point did you feel that you your situation had caused you to consider possibly resigning uh given all of the political attention that that
had developed as a result of it um in terms of resignation the answer is no um in terms of uh of escalation in the Middle East uh you know our goal is to make sure that that we contain uh this crisis uh in uh in in Gaza uh and uh and that we prevented things from from spreading to a wider wider conflict now there's a lot of activity uh in the region but there's always been a lot of activity in the region and and you know well that um Iranian proxy groups have been attacking our troops uh even w
ell before October 7th and you can go we can go back and count the numbers of attacks before October 7th uh and and they're not insignificant um there there are things that are ongoing now uh well things are not Ono you know we we don't see a a conflict an allout conflict between Israel uh in Lebanese Hezbollah and so I think managing that I think is uh has been artfully done and so you know we remain in contact with our uh Israeli counterparts and make sure that that doesn't uh blossom into a a
war or another front uh we don't see Israel engaged in uh in a conflict with other countries in the region we're not at war with with Iran um and yeah the hooes continue to do some things that are very uh IR responsible and illegal and uh and so uh our goal is to make sure that we take away we continue to take away capability from the hooes uh to do what they've been doing and this is not a uh this is not a US issue this is an international issue you know we're going to either be serious about
the freedom of navigation uh and uh or or we're not and and and so as we look at Partners like the UK and so many others that have joined us in this effort uh this is about freedom of navigation there are others in the world that are watching this to see how how serious we are about this and we are serious uh and again our partners and allies are serious about it as well this is costing uh uh countries and companies significant amounts of money as uh as they've had to redirect uh commercial traf
fic around but the hooes uh I mean their activity needs to come to a halt and we would call upon or on to uh to quit or to cease supplying the houes with uh with these Advanced Conventional Weapons that they've used to attack ships in the in the Red Sea and the bab Elman Deb okay let's go to Le uh sir commiserations on your illnesses and it's good to see you back on your feet um at least on one foot on one foot um uh you said uh that you never directed your staff to keep the news of your hospita
lization uh from the from anyone uh did any senior members of your family or your wife direct people to keep this a secret um to my knowledge uh no members well I don't know I don't know what anyone on my on my staff may have said but I think these things will come out in the in the review and so rather than speculate I I think we should we should let that uh the facts come out as a review is done so can I ask you one more question about you you it it it you mentioned during your opening stateme
nt that uh this was an opportunity to talk about prostate cancer especially in the black community I wonder though do you have any regret that your silence on this reinforced this culture of secrecy among back black men about prostate cancer yeah and you mentioned that and it's probably not a uh an issue of secrecy as much as it's an issue of privacy and uh this is uh this is a very cancer period is is very private and there may be cancer survivors amongst amongst us in this room right here and
I know there is at least a couple there are at least a couple uh but but you know uh how how private that that is uh uh and and you know what the initial diagnosis feels like and uh uh and so among the black community though it's it's even more a thing that that people want to want to keep private and and again it's more about privacy than secrecy uh in my case uh I should have informed my boss I did not that was a mistake uh and uh and again I apologize to him for not doing so that's good to NP
R Mr secretary you went to the hospital on December 22nd was your staff aware that you'd gone to the hospital and if so why didn't they tell the White House you went back to the hospital on January 1st and an a told the dispatcher uh when the ambulance arrives no lights no Sirens did you direct the aid to say that I asked uh my assistant to call the ambulance I did not direct him uh to do anything further than just call the ambulance uh and so what he said uh and why he said it I think that shou
ld come out in the in the review as well what about December 22nd when you went to the hospital the first time was the staff aware and if so why didn't they tell the White House when when I went to the hospital on December 22nd uh it was I went in for that procedure um I duties were transferred to the deputy that was planned and uh and I decided to stay in the hospital overnight didn't have to decided to stay there overnight uh because of the anesthesia that was involved uh and then the next day
later in the afternoon early evening we transferred authorities back I'm talking about your staff staff we why didn't they the White House Mr secretary first of all we wish you good health and thank you for taking our questions we hope you have a quick recovery I have two questions I'll start with the first one on your hospitalization you were hospitalized for days before you informed the White House or the commanderin-chief of your condition and your absence anyone else within the military cha
in of command would have faced reprimand or even dismissal why shouldn't that same standard apply to you sir well let me just say that uh thanks for the question that that we didn't get this right and as I said I take full responsibility for uh for the Department's actions uh in terms of why um on the second notification was was not made to the white house uh that information was available uh I'm not sure U at this point uh what exactly happened but I think details uh will uh will play out as a
review is is conducted can follow up about the situation overseas right now and the deliberation in regards to strikes there been more than 160 strikes on American targets across the region as you noted since October why has the US waited until American Service members were killed to escalate its response well um as you know we've responded a number of times uh and taken out uh um first of all their attacks uh many of them most of them are going to be ineffective many and most of them we're goin
g to defend ourselves against uh and um whenever we uh conduct a uh a strike we're going to hit at what we're aiming at we're going to take away capability we're going to we're going to do what we're uh Desiring to do uh and so this this particular attack um was egregious and that it you know the attack um was on the sleeping area of one of of of of our base and and again uh we have uh uh we' katab Hezbollah and and other uh elements uh continue to um attack our troops uh and uh and again I thin
k at this point uh we we should uh it's time to uh to take away even more capability than we've taken in the past and in terms of the the you use the term escalation we've not described what our what our response is going to be uh but we look to hold the people that are responsible for this accountable and we also look to make sure that uh we continue to take away capability from them as we go forward that's good let's go to the next question Washington Post Missy um welcome back Mr secretary um
what first of all we um the chairman of the house um armed services committee one of the main oversight committees for this building has asked if you will come testify on a specific date will you do that and secondly on the Middle East what's your response to the criticism um that the United States is sort of playing into the hands of the houthis because the US response is elevating their status they've demonstrated an ability to withstand years of bombing in the past and more broadly playing i
nto the hands of the Iranians that support the houthis and the other groups um when the goal of President Biden in the United States has been to prevent increased violence um in the Middle East and now the United States is taking part in actually increasing it thanks U Missy what was your the first part of your question test what will you testify as chairman Rogers has asked yeah so Congress has uh had some uh very relevant questions uh that uh they've asked us uh and we will continue to uh to a
nswer those questions uh we'll continue to work with uh chairman Rogers office uh to uh to address uh any additional questions or issues that he might have and again we'll stay in touch with chairman rogers's office as and and uh you know as things play out so I'm sorry I'm the Middle East yeah are you playing into the hands of the houthis in Iran more generally well miss you know if you take a look at what what the houthis are doing I mean they're they're attacking uh commercial shipping you kn
ow initially they said said that they're attacking commercial shipping because these ships were supporting Israel um they've attacked the uh um ships that that are that have the interest of some 50 countries that are not supporting Israel and so this is this is an international CME uh and and this is something we have to do about and I in terms of elevating the status of the hoodies I think we have to do something about that this is not elevating their status this is about preventing them from h
aving the ability to do what they've done in terms of attacking ships and trying to sync ships that have nothing to do with uh with the with the Israeli conflict so let's go to CBS David Mr secretary we all saw a golf cart out in the hallway is is is that how you're getting around now and how confident are you that your recovery is going to be complete enough to allow you to continue in what everybody re recognizes as a very demanding job yeah well nobody recognizes that more than me uh but uh u
m that's the first time I use that golf cart by the way and uh but I think it's pretty neat um my leg will continue to Pro improve uh the doctors are confident that it will uh the my uh PT specialist who I think is a sist is uh you know he continues to work me hard and uh and and he has confidence as well well it'll just take time because of the nature of the of the of the you how much time um no they can't put a number on in terms of days or or or weeks but but it'll be incremental Improvement
I won't be ready for the Olympics but uh but I'll uh I'll improve so let's go to AFP thank you Mr secretary um does the US need to escalate its military actions or do something new or unprecedented in order to deter rounding X proxies and and if so how can that be done without um without uh sparking a broader conflict I think everyone recognizes the the challenge associated with making sure that we hold the right people accountable uh that uh that we do everything necessary to protect our troops
and that we manage things so that it they they don't escalate I don't think there's any any set formula for doing this I do think though that uh that in everything that we do uh as we work our way through our decision-making process with the National Security uh um Council um we're we're managing all of that looking at all of that and and we're using every instrument of National Power to to address various issues so so I think I mean there there are ways to to to manage this so it doesn't spira
l out of control and that's been our Focus uh throughout let's go to Al jazer thank you um speed the recovery uh Mr secretary um I I have two things um in back in December in your speech at the Reagan uh Library you told Israeli leaders they have to protect civilian lives in Gaza since that speech 12,000 more Palestinians have been killed we're now at 27,000 killed why are you still supporting this war when this government that is the most extreme in the history of Israel led by someone who refu
ses to recognize any political right for the Palestinians and with elements that are calling for uh ethnic cleansing and displacement of Palestinians do Palestinians have the right to dignity as you said in Angola when I was with you on the trip you said the future belongs to those who protect dignity not trampling yeah um I I said that in the speech at the Ragan form uh I've said that to my counterpart Minister Gant every every time that I talk to him and I talk to him every week uh and I I emp
hasize the importance of uh protecting uh civilian lives I also emphasize the importance of uh providing humanitarian assistance to uh the Palestinians it's critical it's it's really important uh this is uh there's no question that this is a tough has been a tough uh conflict uh but we're as I said earlier we are starting to see uh the Israelis kind of shift their stance and and change their approach to a more uh focused uh and uh um um controlled well not control is probably not the right word
but a more focused effort uh focused on a discret set of objectives uh and so um I think uh you know we talked to them about that uh weeks ago uh and uh they said they were going to do that and they are doing that but I will continue to emphasize and I know secretary blinkin and President Biden will continue to emphasize the importance of addressing the issue of the Palestinian people uh it it's critical and uh you know we're doing more uh but but we're not doing enough so time for a few more le
t's go to CNN uh secretary allow me to join my colleagues in wishing you a speedy recovery uh the 30-day review is due in a matter of days now I think less than a week if I'm not mistaken do you commit to making that review public and second question has your Chief of Staff Kelly maximan offered her resignation or have there been discussions about her resignation in the wake of the failure to notify um I commit to being uh as as transparent as possible uh and uh and sharing as much as possible u
m Orin you'll understand that because this is a command and control of uh policies of uh of our government here there'll be um elements of this that are classified but uh we're committed to sharing uh as as much as possible as soon as possible and your Chief of Staff has she offered her resignation uh she has not so okay let's go to PBS nick uh Mr seor I've seen what you're going through up close uh among loved ones so again we wish you a full recovery and I know it's possible so thank you um yo
u described this as a gut punch your instinct to privacy but if I could just ask you bluntly you had nearly a month between the time you learned of your cancer and the time that this came out to inform the president how could you possibly think that it was okay not to tell him uh if I could be blunt and just a small question on Iran in the Middle East what do you believe Iran knew operationally about the attack in Jordan and and how important is that when it comes to the US response so um when t
he diagnosis was made um doct highlighted that you have a finite window of time to actually get this done if you go beyond that that window then then you'll have a problem Christmas holidays coming up uh for me uh to be have as little impact on on uh what we're doing in the department Christmas was a time for me to uh to take a look at getting that done uh it was a tough decision for me uh and I did not decide until you know very close to when the procedure was done to actually uh do the procedu
re in terms of informing the president again I uh I admit that that was a mistake to not talk to him about that early on uh when you're the president of the United States you got a lot of things on your plate and so putting my personal uh issue uh on adding adding to his uh all the things that he's got on his plate I just didn't feel that that was uh that was a thing that I I should do at the time but again I recognized that that was a mistake and uh I should have done that differently so and wh
at Iran knew about the attack in Jordan or how operationally he was involved um you know we believe that this was uh done by an element of what is known as the axis of resistance uh and U these are Iranian proxy groups uh and how much Iran knew or didn't know we don't know but it really doesn't matter because Iran sponsors these groups it funds these groups uh and uh in some cases it uh it trains these groups on Advanced Conventional Weapons uh and so you know I again I I think without that faci
litation these kind kinds of things don't happen so okay let's go to Ft and then Politico to close it out thanks Mr secretary have you seen any signs that China has been successful in pressuring Iran to rain in the hoies in the Red Sea uh we we have not um again what's happening in terms of uh close Communications between between leaders uh you know we we don't know but uh but we've not seen any visible evidence that they are they are encouraging or pressuring uh Iran to uh cause the hoodies to
to back off of what they've been doing okay final question thank you good to see you Mr secretary I also hope that you make a speedy recovery I two questions um first of all um do you regret not personally telling the deputy the details the two times you that you were in the hospital and the authorities were transferred to her do you think that she had a right to know and then I have a question on the Middle East as well um as you heard me say in my opening statement uh I apologize to all my col
leagues uh and uh and also the American people that uh that I wasn't as transparent as I I probably should have been upfront so and then my second question is there any discussion right now of withdrawing troops from either Syria or Iraq especially given what has happened in the last couple weeks um what's happened in the last couple of weeks uh is not driving us to um consider withdrawing troops from Syria there are ongoing discussions with the Iraq Iraqi leadership about uh about our future fo
otprint in Iraq and I think that's that's been uh fairly well publicized the high military commission we've taken the first steps uh in in conducting those meetings uh and so that will play out over time it does that include discussions about withdrawing troops from Iraq uh it'll include discussions about our footprint going forward for sure thank you very much Mr secretary ladies and gentlemen that's all the time we have for today thank you very much and we've been watching defense secretary Ll
oyd Aon in his first news conference since returning from the hospital after having surg surgery for prostate cancer Austin addressed the deadly attack on US forces in jordan saying his thoughts and prayers are with the families and loved ones of the service members killed or injured he also says the US will respond quote when we choose where we choose and how we choose the defense secretary also addressed the controversy surrounding his medical issues and lack of disclosure saying he is recover
ing well but admits he could have handled it better for more let's bring in White House correspondent Mary Alis Parks AB news National Security and defense analyst Mick mroy foreign correspondent Marcus Moore in Aman Jordan and ABC News medical correspondent Dr Darian Sutton MC Austin says that the president will not tolerate attacks on American troops and neither will he so how much do we know about the options on the table for how to respond so Diane surprisingly a lot there's been a lot of uh
leaked information on what the targets could be uh potentially that is so that Iran has the ability to remove Personnel so there's not a lot of Iranians that are killed in this response uh but that is one of the concerns is that this will be essentially hitting empty facilities there's also some discussion that the delay may have been uh because of weather so it might have been a combination of that but I do think that this is going to be a multiphased operation that tries to uh deplete uh degr
ade uh the infrastructure that Iran uses to support these proxy groups whether it's storage facilities training facilities uh and the logistical Supply Lin so that even if they still have an intent to attack US forces they might not have uh the means and I think that's something that we could expect them to really try uh to affect a change Mark secretary Austin says the military is sending a message of deterrence what roles do US troops actually play in the region well um as you know uh the US t
roops have been in this region for for for quite some time for decades now and uh more recently a lot of the work that they've been doing uh has been trying to keep Isis from uh the remnants of Isis from being able to operate in the region and uh and conduct attacks and uh there is a relatively large or still a large US presence here uh in the region and that has been the source of conflict as we've seen uh these Iranian proxy groups that have carried out um attacks on on us service members here
in the region recently but as you heard the the secretary uh mention he said that these groups have been uh targeting Americans since before uh October 7th and Diane if I can um one of the points that that that really stood out to me uh was the question about the US response and the potential for it to spread into a much wider uh conflict uh all of this revolving around the uh Israel Hamas war and and and he uh indicated uh that he believes that they are being successful or that they have been
successful in containing the conflict or trying to contain it to uh to Gaza saying that if you look uh Israel is not uh in an allout war with any countries that uh that it neighbors right now and that the the conflicts and the fighting that we've seen between Hezbollah in southern Lebanon and Israel on its northern border that that has been uh contained he he indicated and also that while the huies have continued to carry out attacks on the commercial shipping routes in the Red Sea uh that they
have been able to diminish their capabilities but that more work needs to be done I think altogether uh they're they're trying to say that they have been successful in in keeping this from spiraling out of control and one other note Diane uh he said that we are not at War uh with Iran and I thought that was uh that was significant it does seem that way Mary Alis what are you hearing from lawmakers about a potential response how much pressure is President Biden under from Congress on this a signi
ficant pressure and the White House was asked about about this yesterday whether he's feeling that political pressure to respond uh they said that that's not what he's taking into account right now that that they're worried primarily on the US sort of National Security of course and responding appropriately while also balancing um like Marcus just talking about uh a concern about about escalating this conflict in any way um and figuring out sort of how to get that delicate balance right but of c
ourse they're under political pressure it has been several days now you can imagine there's a lot of Americans wondering if this makes the United States look like an attack on our troops is going unanswered I think that the White House um is aware of that pressure but but like I said they're at least publicly saying that it is not a deciding factor for President Biden mick how fine a line does the president have to walk here in order to send a message to these iran-backed Rebels but also to try
not to escalate this conflict and spread it even further so that is the balance Diane it needs to be significant it needs to be unambiguous it needs to actually cost Iran something because quite frankly Iran has no problem fighting to the last proxy uh Force that's why they have them this needs to actually have consequences for Iran but they don't want to have it such a significance consequences that they then feel compelled to respond which could escalate this into a conflict that I don't think
either country uh wants or or should want so I think that's the balance but it does have to be significant and deterrence quite frankly is self-grading homework we'll find out if it stops these attacks against our troops and if it doesn't then we need to relook at our response and try to be more significant uh next time and Dr Sutton Austin also spoke about his recent hospitalization he says he was diagnosed with a highly treatable form of priv prostate cancer and in error he tried to keep that
private how serious is that diagnosis how do you get it and what are some symptoms to look out for it's an incredibly serious diagnosis it's actually one of the leading causes of death the second leading cause C of death among American men after lung cancer and so when we talk about this diagnosis it's important to create awareness because one key point is that early intervention can help solve a lot of the complications of prostate cancer in including metastasis or spreading to other parts of
the body and so in this speech in this report you know I feel for him number one I appreciate the honesty as a physician I feel for his lack of privacy in this moment but I also understand that his position requires transparency so when we look at the details regarding his case it clinically makes sense he had this procedure early December or Pro was diagnosed early December had this procedure in January and suffered from the complications of that which unfortunately are rare but I think he took
a Gamble and in this case uh he was trying to keep it private and that complication is likely why the reason the reason why we're talking about it right now he said something interesting he said prostate cancer is in a glass jar and so if doctors can see it they can cure it I think he said or maybe he said treated it what did you make of that statement I think that it's it's that prostate cancer is always available to discuss number one having discussions about screening on prostate cancer shou
ld start in your 40s the average age is 67 but whenever I talk about average ages Diane we have to understand half of those who are diagnosed are under that average and half are above and for black men that risk is even higher a 60 to 80% more likely to be diagnosed earlier in terms and also with later stages and so I think when he references that glass jar he's speaking to the fact that it's something so obvious an easy topic to discuss something so curable and solvable but it just has to be do
ne early I want to bring in our senior National policy reporter an flarity here as well because an Austin says new Protocols are now in place to avoid a similar situation in the future meaning the communication breakdown that happened here right because he's saying there was no Gap in Authority but he's also saying you know at one point the deputy press secretary was the one calling the shots and the White House didn't know and so on so what can you what can you tell us about changes that have b
een put in place since this all happened so he's not saying he's not speaking to a lot of the details that the reporters wanted in this you could hear from the questions that they asked repeatedly uh did your Deputy know why you were in the hospital or why she had received these authorities you know she's suddenly in charge of the Armed Forces did anybody bother to tell her why he said I'm not going to speculate on what my staff knew he said I have a great staff he says I can only speak to what
I knew and what I said at the time and he made very clear over and over again I made a mistake s he also said one other thing that stuck out to me he said I missed an opport un to raise awareness about this condition by keeping it secret especially in the black community and among older men he's saying he's hoping to correct that now how important do you think that is it's incredibly important some of these conversations that happen on public stages like this then dictate and translate to conver
sations I'm having with patients I can't tell you enough how many times a patient has come in and stated I saw something on television and it scared me enough that I wanted to have a conversation now when we look at the statistics the American Cancer Society expects that we have expected 300 th000 new cases of prostate cancer this year and as I alluded to earlier that risk is even increased for as black men and so I think it's really helpful and valuable have conversations like this on a public
stage ignite conversations in A Private Matter and then he can save more lives Mick back to the security issues here Austin also said that this is about more than just this back and forth that we're saying he says this is about freedom of navigation how crucial is that and who has vested interests there so Di I think that's part of trying to separate what's happening in the Red Sea and the Gulf of aen from the war in Gaza obviously the houthis are saying that they're only going after uh you know
Israeli linked ships but quite quite frankly over 50 countries Nationals not israelies have been affected uh and this is affecting global trade so freedom of navigation should be every country's interest not just those that have a political interest in how the war Gaza is going so I think that's one of the reason reasons why he's really pushing that because the Coalition is built on ensuring freedom of navigation and international waterways which is essential for the world economy and I think t
hat's something that's going to continue to be pushed and it's real it really needs to be something that countries identify and join in to stop all right Mary Ellis Parks MC moloy Marcus Moore in flarity and Dr Daren suton thank you all we'll be right back tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure tomorrow morning wake
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ee top pro athletes are opening up about their mental health struggles Michael stran sat down with them to discuss the moment they finally asked for health and how we can change the narrative about mental health in the black community a small gathering of some of America's greatest black athletes competing at the highest level but Underneath It All privately struggling with their mental health I'm learning how to live a new life in this new pain in this journey of grief that's like a roller coas
ter what a play back at the 13 yd line by Solomon Thomas in 2018 New York Jet defensive lineman Solomon Thomas had just finished his rookie year shortly after his sister Ella died by Suicide that's when he says his mental health struggles began like I grew up the mentality hey like you know be a man be tough like push through it you know after my sister died I had all these emotions feelings I had never felt before like deep depression deep guilt for Olympian track and field athlete Anna cochrel
l wow Anna cockro went Blowing by it was her third year of college when she began to struggle a lot of the typical depression symptoms that you hear about just didn't apply to me I was doing all the things you're supposed to do and still felt terrible and for three-time NBA Allstar towns no hesitation Swit Timberwolves Center Carl Anthony towns it was after losing multiple family members including his beloved mother to covid-19 that his world came to a standstill it was the first time in a way t
he world was silent and in that silence I realized that in this whole process I never took time to take care of myself and I got to a point where I had to start realizing I was deteriorating their struggles as unique as their path to Healing my college coach pulled me into her office and she was like what is going on you're smiling and there's no light behind your eyes someone else recognized it before you really wanted to acknowledge it absolutely and I just broke down and she called one of the
therapists that day and was like when is your earliest appointment and is going to come in for me my general manager John Lynch came up to me and said hey s like uh we have help for you if you need and it was that night that I went home and I faced myself in the mirror and um from that I started going to therapy I Know Carl you did it what some people probably called it unconventional way you didn't go to therapy no if it wasn't for Arie he was the head of the medical Department we've had a clo
se connection he's known me for so long he knew my mother he would talk about two hours a day and just I just tell him how I feel tell him the the mental struggles I'm going through the thoughts I'm having and I felt very comfortable in having those tough conversations with someone that was familiar to me there are many barriers to having these tough conversations in the black community among them stigma access high cost and shame statistics show that only one in three black adults with mental i
llness OB pain treatment how did your teammates react how did your family react I kind of told them after the fact but once I started going and started feeling better that's what opened the door to the conversation because there's a noticeable difference therapy is great when you're in the crisis but I found the most benefit from it when I was going consistently because sometimes you need to get to the root of the problem and not just treat the symptoms I think at first my parents they just didn
't quite understand like I think there was a lot of struggle for them of thinking what did did we do wrong did we make a mistake and having to reassure them almost like a new a new era because you know I I didn't have parents who were were going to be into therapy it was like if you feeling that way you suck it up and you get through it you figure it out old school and not that they didn't care about our feelings they didn't want to hear our feelings they didn't know how to handle it themselves
absolutely thy saved my life for me my mom really encouraged me to go to therapy and I was really resistant I was reluctant your goal is to always be the best you that you can ever be that's why therapy is so important because it helped me find out who I was like what does my brain patterns revert to when I get anxious or when I get sad and how do I break that I have teammates who they'll come up to me and they'll talk about you know their anxiety or or or some deep times they went through and I
I'll encourage like hey man it really sounds like you need some professional help and they're just like ah I I can't do that you know this is 2024 now and we're having this conversation I came into the NFL 1993 and it was definitely a totally different world way back then as far as your mental health was wasn't even addressed in so many ways it was definitely a stigma of Shame during embarrassment that you were struggling I felt a lot of shame I was really embarrassed when you're stuck in that
cycle you feel so empty you feel so alone and you feel like you're the only one going through it to a point where you even feel like you're crazy and and you're not you're human what do you think are the biggest misconceptions when it comes to mental health in the black community the weakness of showing vulnerability I think speaking very broadly like as a black community we are very protective of our image as a community so I think there's some shame and some stigma of wanting to keep things in
house for fear of what it will look like if it goes beyond our homes or our families I think it's a generational trait I think so too because for years if if we was to say that and our ancestors did that we were even more devalued than we we already were it's something that has plagued our community because of how strong we had to be for so long just to get the rights we refused to allow anything to ruin what we've built see as the weakness and if one person's weak then the community is weak I
guess but what can we do to change it how can we change it things like this yeah moment like it's like this being able to have four African-Americans on a couch here talking openly about our our struggles and and how we've dealt with it and we know for black women that their pain is truly often ignored so how does this play into your mental health Journey and your advocacy I think that's a big reason for my advocacy at all to speak specifically to black women's experiences and just letting them
know you don't have to take everything on your pain your experience your voice your struggles your success they all matter why is it important for us sitting here today athlete successful to share and talk about mental health because I feel fans think we're the most got it together people in the world and got Absolut absolutely no problems for me I believe like having these conversations and and pushing this message out is so important because there are so many people out there struggling so if
we can have this conversation have people see that they're not the only ones feeling like this um these conversations can save these lives I would say as I got older you just realize that self-care truly is the biggest gift you could give yourself in a way it's the cheapest most expensive gift you could be a gifted I look at this as sometimes a tough topic but I look at this conversation as a celebration yeah the celebration of being free enough confident enough strong enough supported enough to
share how you truly feel to the world you're serving a greater good by being here our thanks to Michael Strahan Solomon Thomas an A cochal and Carl Anthony towns for that conversation coming up it's time to get your Super Bowl party ready we have the food forecast and where you can score some savings tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News T
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y you're going to pay a little bit more because the food at the bars and restaurants jumped by 5.2% at the end of the day Americans are still playing defense against food inflation this year but overall inflation continues to cool the FED is likely done with those aggressive interest rate hikes and a signal they actually make lower rates later this year all right so we want to run the route on our party menu what's a game without the wings you got to have the fresh Wings they're down 5% Frozen d
own 11% shrimp tacos one word yes the average cost of a pound of shrimp 8.84 that's down nearly 65% from last year store brand chips and dips definitely the way to go prices have jumped on those Major Brands and you can't forget about the cooler you're going to save more on the 2 L sodas than the tiny cans beer prices they're holding the line bottom line though you can Blitz through the rising cost you really just got to bring your aame to the grocery ow ABC's Morgan Norwood thanks for that and
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en ABC News live Prime we'll take you there stream ABC News live week nights wherever you stream your news only on ABC News [Music] live welcome back to ABC News live first thanks for streaming with us you're looking at Los Angeles on this Thursday and we have a lot of news to get to here's the rundown right now back to back storms are slamming the West Coast with flash flooding reported across the bay area and Northern California overnight now 10 states from Texas to Oregon are on alert for flo
oding heavy snow damaging winds and huge surf Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the rust movie set his plea cancels his arraignment that was scheduled today meanwhile we're learning new details about the film's weapon supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other charges Court Document Show members of the rust crew say they were concerned about Hannah gueris Reed's alleged drug and alcohol use during filming prosecutors say evide
nce shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first started working on the movie vus Reed denies those claims and has pleaded not guilty to the charges against her a 16-year-old girl is in the hospital after falling from a chair lift at a California ski resort video shows her dangling from the lift at Mammoth Mountain as other Riders tried to hold on to her workers and guests then set up a net beneath her but she fell through it slamming to the ground below it's still not clear how it
all happened but Mountain officials say she was not completely seated this comes after another woman spent 15 hours trapped on a gondola at Heavenly ski resort in freezing temperatures a resort executive says that incident was due to a breakdown in protocols and a New Jersey town is cancelling its annual Groundhog Day event due to a shortage in groundhogs its longtime groundhog miltown Mel died a few years ago and organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly impossible they say they've
called Wildlife centers zoos and exotic breeders but no luck but not to fear Punk ton Phil will still make his official prediction tomorrow morning at Gobbler's Knob meanwhile at least three people are dead and nine others injured after an airplane hanger collapsed at a Boise Airport officials say everyone who is on site is accounted for now the occupational safety and health administrations trying to figure out what caused the collapse Melissa Adon has more an urgent investigation underway afte
r a deadly building collapse at an airport in Boise Idaho I currently have three people trapped in elevated in the authorities responding to calls around 5:00 p.m. local time after a private hanger under construction crumbled at least three people killed and nine injured five in critical condition dozens of police and emergency vehicles on the scene spilling over onto the nearby highway there was a large scale collapse of the building the framework of the building I don't know what caused it and
it was fairly catastrophic this image capturing what the 39,000 ft hanger and nearby crane looked like less than an hour before the collapse this one taken shortly after after the structure mangled and crane on the ground I heard a best way I could describe it as kind of like a dog whining like there it was very loud and it was very odd noise at the airport and that's when I saw like a house of cards everything just started to fall down in towards itself the company who owns the hanger Jackson
Jet Center releasing a statement saying our hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event especially those with loved ones on site when this tragedy occurred and Melissa D joins me now from boiseidaho with more on this Melissa what's the latest on the investigation into what caused this Diane so many questions floating around right now a sense of huge concern actually just when we were uh leaving our hotel the folks in the lobby there so worried about construction that was something
they highlighted to me and that's something that we can show you really here it is really um impressive to see just how expansive this hanger is and then of course when you take a look of the material that it was made of there was several cranes that were here as it was an active construction site something possibly could have gone ay that's going to be part of the investigation things like that as to protocol equipment Etc then at the other hand this morning we've been experiencing windy condit
ions always of course questions as to how weather uh was in effect like late last night Diane and Melissa what do we know about the victims and the survivors here oh yeah Diane I mean just from what we're learning as to how this structure collapsed it was an intense rescue effort for these firefighters they had to go through the rubble through the debris so we're talking about dozens that were injured unfortunately at least we learned that three people did not survived five then of those folks t
hat made it out of the debris were sent to the hospital they're in critical condition uh but then of course they had also that search going on to make sure that no one else was unaccounted for that we saw out here in this debris so really a lot here that we hope to find out more details to as the day develops Diane a lot of questions there Melissa Adan thank you and prosecutors in the trial of the mother of M of a Michigan high school shooter say they are ready to call their last witness today t
he prosecution showed new body cam video of the moments Jennifer Crumbley and her husband were found hiding in a Warehouse after the shooting in 2021 now she's expected to take the stand in her own defense Trevor alt has that story to the prosecution expected to call their final Witnesses in the trial of Jennifer Crumbley jurors hearing this crucial call which led police to her and her husband the parents of the shooter that are running away they're here after the couple failed to show for their
arraignment US Marshals launched a man hunt finding them some 40 m away in a commercial building this police body cam video showing the moment James Crumbley was taken into custody Jennifer nearby Jennifer's defense attorney argues the couple only left home because of death threats but were planning to turn themselves in but prosecutors also produced Facebook messages Jennifer Crumbley sent and then deleted where she wrote the shooter's life is over I need to focus on saving ours and we're on t
he run again helicopters not sure where too she sent those messages to Brian Malo with whom she had an affair Malo testifying on multiple occasions Jennifer Crumbley left work to meet him even though she allegedly told school officials the morning of the shooting she couldn't take her son home because she needed to return to work did she ever tell you um that she didn't have to be at a meeting later in the day on November the 30th 2021 No in fact she was able to leave work to meet you when it pl
eased her yes and Trevor Al joins me now from Pontiac Michigan with more Trevor what can we expect to hear from Jennifer Crumbley when she takes the stand well I can tell you what we don't expect to hear Diane and that is Jennifer Crumbley or her attorney claiming she was a perfect mother they have uh fully admitted from the beginning of this trial that her and her husband made a number of mistakes but that's not necessarily criminal and the argument that I think we're going to hear them make is
that she was not aware that her son was having mental health problems or that he was a threat to other students we also expect that they're going to hammer the school officials who were there that day who have also admitted that they did not consider their son was going to be a danger and they also have been saying that the gun which they bought for their son and that he used in this shooting was locked up although some officials and some investigators have already testified that the weapons th
at they found were kept in a gun safe with the code 00 now the prosecut ution has said they've got two more witnesses that they expect to call today after that they are expected to rest Jennifer Crumbley could be the first witness called for the defense and everyone is going to be watching that testimony Diane and Trevor prosecutors are trying to keep the shooters medical and psychiatric records from being introduced how significant is that it could be fairly significant Diane mainly there's the
re's one uh line of argument in which I think that would really play a key role and that's over the fact that Jennifer Crumbley and her defense attorney argues that they were not aware uh her son was in kind of a downward spiral mentally already in this trial it was introduced that leading up to the shooting he had texted a friend of his saying he'd asked his parents for help for his mental health and essentially he said his dad told him to toughen up and his mom laughed at him when he asked to
be taken to a therapist well previously a psychiatrist said that after the shooting he told him he'd never asked his parents for help for his mental health it could be kind of a key component in this involuntary manslaughter trial dant all right Trevor Alton Pontiac Michigan thank you and historic negotiations are starting today over the price of prescription drugs it's the first time the US government is able to directly negotiate with drug companies until now the drug companies would set their
price and the government could only say yes or no but that changed when Congress passed the president's inflation reduction act in 2022 let's bring in ABC's Brad milky host of the start here podcast for more on this Brad how significant in this is this change and how will it work well policy makers say it's hugely significant because think about how this usually works with your insurance company right when the insurance company says hey go to your Walgreens your drug is approved it's covered th
at only comes after intensive negotiations right that they've had behind the scenes where you know the drug maker says hey these pills cost 10 bucks each the insurance company says okay but like we're going to send you patients in bulk why don't you give them to us for five bucks each and the patient might never actually see the difference but it makes a big difference to whether the insurer is making a profit or not Medicare has never had that opportunity though the US government has never been
allowed to actually negotiate they either have to take the sticker price that the company says here's what you owe or they have to walk away from the table that all change is starting today I talked to the HHS secretary Javier Basera who's basically leading this now that it's legal and they are you know very hopeful that this will lower drug prices across the board what kind of drugs could be covered here and who will be able to buy them at these new lower prices well so there's a a list of 10
drugs that are starting today they basically sent out like their opening bid right to the drug makers saying you know and these are drugs that treat you know they're the 10 most prescribed drugs for Medicare so they cover diabetes you know heart disease cancer and so the hope is you know that they'll sort of haggle over this over the next about year and a half and 2026 is when you'd actually see the list price change for this the question you asked though Diane about like who will save money tha
t's kind of the interesting question here because think about how it works with your insurer you don't really notice the price difference when you're the person on the insurance roles right like so the Medicare recipients they might see a difference the T you know everyone else it's not like you and I are on Medicare it's not like Uncle Sam's negotiating on our interests what Javier Basera told me is they're hopeful a few things will happen one they say Medicare the system will save a bunch of m
oney and when that happens that means Medicare recipients will get better treatment from other things right they'll have more money to treat you for for other stuff two if Medicare is saving money the taxpayers save money that's where you and I come in right the taxpayers across the country save money three this is the untested part is he's hopeful that the drug prices will actually go down for everyone that you can't just charge Medicare recipients this low low price and then charge the insuran
ce companies higher PR like private insurers higher prices so the idea and this is kind of untested is that this will actually lower prices for everyone all right we will see and before you go I have to ask you about this story out of Tampa Florida there's some sort of mysterious noise coming from the water what is happening okay so this is wild because for the last several years on and off residents in South Tampa have noticed this weird kind of a thumping sound it's almost like a Bas we actual
ly have the the audio here if you want to listen to it right so it's not even like it's kind of like an someone has their like car radio on yeah like it's coming from a car some people it was coming from the water these are all Waterfront communities and people were like it's coming from all around me like Windows were shaking they couldn't quite figure out what it is is it a clerb is it you know is it coming from somebody's speaker well it turns out it's fish having sex no this is fish mating t
his is the the black drum fish that migrates and mates in South Flor in uh in in South Tampa among other communities good for you Dr this is the mating call of the male fish and it creates this weird like humming noise and so now this woman she's hooked on this story she has put together a GoFundMe for a marine biologist to put microphones under the water just to confirm that this is actually it I'd love to know if the human birth rate in Tampa goes up after this if if it's kind of contagious ri
ght right we we know the fish are into it it's very rhythmic right and so it really sounds like music it's driving people insane and yet if it's the fish what are you going to do so I guess it's just kind of like we're just kind of figure out if you know we all feel a little bit more coish G to Dr after listening to this that is so funny all right ABC's Brad milky thank you for that I'm blushing now and to hear Brad dive into more stories like these check out the stard here podcast new episodes
drop every weekday morning at 600 Eastern wherever you get your podcasts coming up a rap beef a WAP beef gone too far why some say Nicki Minaj got too personal in her new disc toward Meg the stallion and why security is now involved also ahead Travis Kelce opens up about his love story the big game and the challenges on and off the field oh he says he and Taylor Swift are supporting each other [Music] Whenever Wherever news breaks it's so important to always remember that lives are changed here
in London in Buffalo yaldi Texas edinb Scotland reporting from Rolling Fork Mississippi Ukrainian refugees here in warong we're heading to a small community outside of Mexico City getting you behind the stories as they happen ABC News live Prime we'll take you there stream ABC News live week nights wherever you stream your news only on ABC News live welcome back to ABC News live first a Houston area Cemetery where Megan the stallion's mother is buried is reportedly increasing security after a fe
ud with Nicki Minaj Nikki fans allegedly released the address of the cemetery and reportedly encouraged others to desecrate the rapper's mother's grave site this comes after the two rappers allegedly took Digs at each other in their latest diss tracks Reports say nothing has happened to the grave site but officials say they are on high alert I want to bring an ABC News contributor and SiriusXM radio host Mike Muse and ABC News contributor senior entertainment reporter for ESPN's andscape Kelly C
arter for more on this Kelly Megan's song his and Nikki's song Bigfoot were both released in the past week now neither song directly names the other but fans are kind of drawing their own conclusions especially after Nikki made a few posts on Instagram so break this down for us how did we end up with security being heightened at a cemetery it's gone too far hasn't it you know quite frankly when when Megan came out with her song and and and the time that she has talked about it most recently on T
he Breakfast Club she said she is just talking about anyone who is against her she's not naming anyone's name now while Nikki may not have directly named you know Megan the stallion it is obvious who she is talking about and it's deeply personal and um it's it's bad it's bad it sure looks that way Mike dis tracks though are not unusual in the rap world at all so what's different here yeah diss tracks is the foundation of hip-hop music going back to its origin um you think about like from The Roc
k San Shante days right and being in the ciphers in the Bronx and leading up to it it was always meant to be this very spirited battle ever since the beginning even you think about DJ KK um and and K La Rock days in the foundation of when hip hop began it's always been this friendly competition it's always been this friendly battle all the way into current times when you had the infamous uh East Coast versus West Coast with t pox Shakur and Biggie Smalls and then that uh beef ended up going to t
he next iteration between Jay-Z and Nas right from the Takeover to Ether and so these were always like these big songs they were always big sing Les it's what made hip hop hip hop but as we go into this new era of social media and as we go into this new era of fandom where everyone has these super fans where before the beefs were neutral and everyone just loved the idea of dis songs but now the fans have made it so personal um and become more personal attacks that it's infused the beef even furt
her to where we are right now with Megan the stallion and Nicki Minaj to where the beef has just uh got to the point where it's personal um lines have been crossed when you talk about the deceased uh with Megan's deceased mother and then also two is getting personal now when you talk about sexual or predatorial Behavior Uh inserting Megan's Law now Kelly Nicki Minaj and Meg the stallion actually collaborated on a song Just in 2019 a lot of fans say they didn't even know that they had a falling o
ut and Nikki also had an issue with card B in the past so what do you make of that is this how you get publicity for new music or what's happening here it's definitely one way to get publicity for new music isn't it you know I really think that what we're seeing is is Nikki who has long been the queen of of rap music um potentially feeling a little bit threatened by some of this younger talent coming in she's been very vocal about her feelings about cardi B and from from a fan account doesn't ap
pear to have loved that that Megan collaborated with cardi B on on an album after she worked worked with Meg the stallion in in in 2019 on hot girl summer and so now all of a sudden we're hearing a lot of those grievances come out you know in this in this new disc music that that Nicki Minaj just released all right Kelly Carter Mike Muse Mike you mentioned Biggy and Tupac we know sometimes this beef can cross from the music and have significant consequences in real life so hoping they can figure
out how to settle this one Mike Kelly thank you both and get ready to see a lot more of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift in the next 10 days Swift will be at the Grammys this Sunday and back on tour next week and then it's time for the Super Bowl where Kelsey and the Kansas City Chiefs will face the 49ers ABC News will reev has more on how the two say they are handling all the attention and it's caught by Kelsey for the touchdown 10 days away from the chance to win his third Super Bowl Kansas City
Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce is locked in on the big game football is my main focus right now there's a lot of people counting on me in this building in this city in this organization this year in Las Vegas there will be a lot of fans locked in on Kelsey not just for his Hall of Fame worthy talent and resume but for his relationship with Taylor Swift Kelsey candidly sharing the challenges of this brighter Spotlight on the Pat McAfee show it's exciting for me but it was all brand new man I I co
uldn't tell you I mean I've from having the paparazzi follow me every single day into the work to you know just uh everybody having their having my name on their talk show every single day whether it's Sports whether it's not Sports uh you know it's just been a it's been a crazy crazy ride I could have never anticipated man but um I'm having fun with it Kelsey and Swift breaking the internet with their affectionate onfield celebration after the Chiefs clinched their spot in the Super Bowl Swift'
s Presence at Chiefs games has repeatedly caused a frenzy though she's typically shown on screen for around just 25 seconds per game according to a newor York Times analysis some have called it a distraction Kelsey says he and Taylor do hear the hate we're just uh we're two people in a relationship supporting each other and having fun with it man it's it's nothing more than that she's dealt with it forever and we hear it but we hardly ever talk about it it's it's nothing to even talk about heade
d to their fourth Super Bowl in five years Kelsey knows he and the Chiefs have a Target on their backs we got to become that that team that has the grit and has the fire in their heart to be able to find ways to win at the end of ball games man we just got to we got to feed that beast and turn turn that into being you know the villain of the NFL and sure enough man we're uh we're right back to the Super Bowl with that kind of mentality man he insists no matter what he's staying focused this is m
y number one focus at the time to be able to you know uh and on top of that I have a it's in my heart to be able to pour everything I got out there on the field will reev thank you coming up which of Beyonce Jay-Z's kids are musically inclined Alicia Keys is weighing in and our will Gans is singing that t [Music] next the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we're bring you behind the scenes of the newest cosmetic surge
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the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News [Music] [Applause] live welcome back to ABC News live first it is time now for the tea where we break down some of the Buzzy stories people are talking about our friend will Gans is here to help us out we'll spill that tea I got some Long Island tea yeah for you this morning Long Island tea Long Island tea Long Island ice tea is the best tea well not at this time of the morning but a certain kind of Long Island tea for sure we begin wit
h breaking Billy Joel news people the piano man dropping his first new song in 17 years overnight it's actually his first new pop song since 1993 it's called turn the lights back on let's take a listen you now as we're laying in the darkness did I wait too long to turn the light back on now we don't know if the new song is indicative of a new album to come but the 74-year-old is set to perform this weekend at the Grammys and maybe he'll make an announcement while he's there the number one commen
t on this brand new YouTube video I just want to share it because it really touched me I'm 60 years old Billy Joel is nearly 75 with this new song Time Slips Away and I'm 19 again laying on the living room floor in front of the console stereo with my eyes closed and my parents are here again in the other room letting Billy's music fill the house thank you Billy Joel my gosh that is beautiful isn't that so sweet I I was actually at his show in December when he kind of hinted that he was coming ou
t with new music so I've been waiting for this episode of the te but I love going to his shows because you see Generations there together all singing every word to every song it's so awesome I love that he sounds amazing he sounds the same amazing all right speaking of the Grammys music's biggest night just days away now the Grammy Awards announcing a star studded lineup as awards are handed out on Sunday night taking the stage after celebrating her 70th birthday this week Oprah Winfrey along wi
th Christina Aguilera and Merill Streep so yes this means Oprah Merill and Taylor Swift are all going to be in the same room at the same time which is a will gan's fever dream of the highest degree also presenting on Sunday Lenny Kravitz maluma and liel Richie Trevor Noah serves as host again this year with performances from sisa Olivia Rodrigo and Joanie Mitchell by the way if Taylor Swift wins album of the Year this year she'll be the most awarded artist ever in that category beating a record
that's currently held by Frank Sinatra Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon woo that's a lot a lot to look forward to on Sunday night also excited for this Garrett Morris a small screen Legend who starred in sitcoms like the Jamie Fox show Martin and the weigh-in Brothers being honored today in a very big way on the west coast Morris getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame after a career stretching back to the 60s when he worked on Broadway before becoming the first black cast member of SNL in 1975
the ceremony today also falls on his 87th birthday good for him well deserved happy birthday to you Mr Morris and finally to queen bee and her family where it turns out duh the musical Gene is very strong you don't say you don't say Alicia Keys telling Access Hollywood that Bee's youngest daughter roomie is a singer just like her mom Alicia says that she loves spending time with the Carter family made up of course of Jay-Z Beyonce their daughter Blue Ivy and their twins who are 6 years old sir
and roomie adding that roomie sings All of Alicia Key's songs she's her little pumpkin pie she's so adorable this coming of course after Blue Ivy made her stage debut with mom over the summer in the Renaissance World Tour and I'm going to say it here Blue Ivy kind of stole the show so now it's room's turn which is hard to do when you're standing next to beonce to Beyonce exactly it was my favorite part of the tour though watching Beyonce watch blue IV all right we're out of time will Gans love y
ou bye love you bye cheers love you bye we'll be right back tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watched newscast on television World News Tonight with David mure tomorrow morning wake up with Usher it's going to be a great show what will he reveal about his new music and his epic halftime show plus she just got nominated for an Oscar so what's Anette Benning doing next she's comi
ng to GMA live tomorrow on Good Morning America good pies on my phone lock everything is so little bit of sun more just a little bit breathing more just a little bit little more a minut I've been running through the Str pictures of my phone like everything [Music] Sun Good Morning America were you involved in the assassination of Malcolm X of course not the award-winning interview with Muhammad aiz after being exonerated in the murder of Malcolm X and the family of khil Islam who didn't live to
see his name finally cleared and the daughter of Malcolm X speaks out exonerated the murder of Malcolm X in 55 years to Justice what took so long nobody was listening but the world is listening now tonight after the series premiere of MLK X on ABC Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you going do with that and then a silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun and I jum
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tock Exchange and wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News live [Music] hi I'm Dio let's get right to our top story defense secretary Lloyd Austin is speaking out in his first press conference since returning from the hospital after having surgery for prostate cancer Austin addressed the deadly attack on US forces in jordan saying his thoughts and prayers are with the loved ones of the service members killed or injured Austin says the US will respond quote when we cho
ose where we choose and how we choose the president will not tolerate attacks on American troops and neither will I this is a dangerous moment in the Middle East we will continue to work to avoid a wider conflict in a region but we will take all necessary actions to defend the United States our interest and our people Austin also addressed the controversy surrounding his medical issues and lack of disclosure saying he's recovering well but but admits he could have handled it better I want to bri
ng in foreign correspondent Marcus Moore in Aman Jordan along with White House correspondent Karen Travers and Senior National policy reporter an flarity at the Pentagon for more and our colleague Louis Martinez asked SEC secretary Austin directly whether the policy of deterrence in the region has failed now Austin says the US has prevented things from spreading into a wider conflict but we have already seen this go beyond Gaza so how is the us working with allies in the region to try to keep th
is war from spreading any further well certainly they've already worked with other countries including the UK to try to take out some of these sites of the Iranian militants uh that they say are targeting commercial ships and US sites in the Red Sea um you know there's a big concern about the types of targets they're going to pick in this next retaliatory attack I mean the US has to choose their targets very carefully officials say here that these uh will be this will be a very deliberate attack
they are carefully planning planning this they do not want this to widen into a broader War Marcus US military officials say its forces destroyed houthi drones in a self-defense air strike in Yemen so what's the latest on the fighting in the region and how concerning are these new attacks well Diane the the fighting continues and it's the the latest developments are concerning because it does illustrate uh what Anne was just talking about the the potential for this conflict to Contin to spread
and to to escalate and despite the US efforts to limit the the Iranian backed um militants ability or their capabilities they have still been able to carry out these these strikes not only on on Commercial uh ships that have been moving through the Red Sea but also in other areas uh such as the uh the base here in Jordan that was uh was struck uh earlier this week on Sunday and resulted in the deaths of of three service members and and more than 40 injured and now people across the the region an
d here in Jordan are waiting for what the US response will be and what impact that will have on the potential for further escalation Diane Karen how much pressure is on President Biden uh to respond how much pressure is he under to respond to these attacks right away Diane there is pressure from Capitol Hill especially from Republicans but the White House says there will be a response that this was a different type of attack with that drone attack in Jordan and it was escalatory and the response
will be proportional we know from the president that he has made a decision about what that us response will look like but the White House won't say yet when that will take place what the targets will be what it will look like saying that that will come at a time and manner of the president's choosing we do know though from the officials that it will be a multi-day targeted campaign multiple sites and look bigger be something more significant than what we have seen so far to those houy attacks
and the other attacks by Iranian proxy groups Diane the president is under pressure from some Republicans to strike inside Iran regarding that though the White House will say that that is something that they have not officially ruled that out but officials say that the president has deep concerns about that because of what that could mean for broadening the conflict in the Middle East and secretary Austin also said he directly apologized to President Biden for not letting him know immediately th
at he was getting treatment for prostate cancer he says there are new protocols in place now to ensure there won't be another communication breakdown in the future so what can you tell us about that reaction when all this happened and the changes that have been made since well the public certainly has more questions he says that he has changed the protocols uh we're learning that that includes notification to everyone from service secretaries to the general counsel in the Pentagon leaving no que
stion that everyone in this building will be notified if the defense secretary is no longer able to carry out his duties now I will say that what he did make clear and what he has told Congress is that at no point was the Pentagon left without leadership that those duties were transferred to his deputy and that she had full control while he was in the hospital all right and flarity Marcus more Karen Travers thank you and sources tell ABC News President Biden plans to sign an executive order sanc
tioning Israeli settlers in the West Bank involved in attacks on Palestinians this would be the boldest action yet from the president after condemning the escalating attacks on Palestinians by settlers in the occupied territory the executive orders expected to pave the way for more sanctions against anyone engaged in violence against Palestinians in the West Bank the president has pledged all those responsible for that violence will be held accountable and Congress will now have to decide whethe
r to impose new regulations on social media to protect children lawmakers grilled the CEOs of meta Tik Tock X and other social media companies about how the platforms protect kids from sexual predators addictive features bullying suicide and eating disorders the PCT hearing was filled with families affected by the issue some holding up photos of the children they lost ABC News senior White House correspondent Selena Wang has the latest on that story growing momentum in Congress to finally protec
t kids online you have blood on your hands you have a product you have a product that's killing people after an explosive hearing on Capitol Hill with the CEOs of five tech companies we know these kids are dying your platforms really suck at policing themselves Mr Zuckerberg what the hell were you thinking the grief of parents palpable in the room holding up photos of their children who they say took their own lives because of abuse on social media children like Samy Chapman his father describin
g him as a hardworking football player a drug dealer contacted Sammy on Snapchat and sold him a pill laced with fenel killing him at age 16 what's your reaction from what you heard from the CEOs today uh I think the CEOs are going to do nothing until they're forced to the leaders of X forly known as Twitter and snap are the only Executives to support legislation that would give parents more control over their children's accounts but lawmakers slamming them along with the CEOs of meta Tik Tok and
Discord what they're trying to do is say well don't blame us for the bullying for the suicides for the self harm they could have taken steps long ago and they've chosen not to meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg facing the harshest criticism there's families of victims here today have you apologized to the victims I would you like to do so now well in a stunning moment Zuckerberg standing to say sorry KN that to go through the things that your families have have suffered and this is why we invested so muc
h and are going to continue doing industry League efforts to uh to make sure that no one has to go through the types of things that your families have to suffer but some parents refused to accept his apology he is a damn liar is what he is so yes there is growing momentum for legislation that protects kids online but it's unclear where all of this momentum goes because for years Congress has failed to regulate social media and when I ask Senators why they blame it on lobbying from Big tech compa
nies but that ignores the fact that it's their job to overcome the influence of big corporations and serve the public Diane senior White House correspondent Selena Wang thank you and ABC's Jay O'Brien joins me now from Capitol Hill Jay the one of the conversations was the bipartisan support on this issue so is there enough to actually take meaningful action and what would that look like that is a great question there is always a lot of bipartisan support when it comes to tackling social media pa
rticularly as it comes to tackling kids use of social media and giving parents more control a lot of the subject of that hearing uh combating child exploitation online which was is the stated subject of that hearing but the reality here Diane is that while there have been several bipartisan pieces of legislation to come out of even just that committee yesterday that held that hearing five bills out of the Senate Judiciary Committee alone none of them have ever made it on to the floor for a vote
and lawmakers blame a combination of factors a as Selena mentioned they blame lobbying from tech companies who have said that they want to be involved in the conversations being had about these bills but as Marshall Blackburn an author of one of these piece of legislation said when they get in these meetings they throw up a lot of roadblocks the other thing is that every time there is Meaningful momentum on regulating social media I remember you and I were on the air together almost a year ago f
or a very similar hearing like this although less fiery there is always something that grabs congress's attention and takes its eye off the ball and these bills never seem to make it to the senate floor for a vote and even if they were to pass in the Senate they might not have a similar kind of easy path in a Republican controlled House of Representatives now we heard Mike speaker Johnson also address the house floor for the first time since taking the gavl and he focused heavily on the border w
hat's the latest on that issue in the negotiations on Capitol Hill so there's this split screen playing Out in Capitol Hill in the Senate there are still those ongoing unfinished border conversations and negotiations being had over striking some kind of a bipartisan deal on immigration reform every single week we're told this is the week that they're going to come out with something public uh that demonstrates where they are something down on paper we have yet to see anything on paper come out o
f those negotiations although we've heard from sources as to what's been agreed upon and what's still a sticking point in the house meantime House Republicans are full steam ahead in impeaching homeland security secretary Alejandra mayorcas over his handling of the situation at the US Southern border and House Republicans speaker Johnson Chief among them have expressed a lot of skepticism if outright opposition about those ongoing talks and that potential deal happening in the Senate so the real
ity here is Diane while there's a lot of new details that have developed over the course of this week there has yet to be really any forward progress on any kind of bipartisan immigration deal but there is forward progress in the house on impeaching my orcas all right Jay O'Brien on Capitol Hill thanks Jay and now to the major storm slamming the West Coast emergency teams are going door Todo warning residents about potential flooding and heavy rains flash flooding is expected in Los Angeles righ
t in the middle of Rush Hour ABC News Alex Perez is there with the latest Relentless rain taking aim at the West Coast in Soma County California cars navigating to conditions as flood waters overtake roads firefighters pulling a trap driver to safety their car taking on water winds in excess of 70 mph in Northern California drivers swerving to avoid accidents on Interstate 5 winds taking down this massive Redwood sending it crashing down onto this pickup truck in Santa Clara County the young wom
an trapped inside luckily only suffering minor injuries and heavy snow falling in Donner Pass cars struggling to stay on the road this one slamming into an embankment then sliding as it makes it back on the road plows out trying to to keep up with all the snow tractor trailers backed up heading into the pass many drivers waiting out the elements our thanks to Alex Perez for that report and ABC News Meteorologist Melissa Griffin is tracking the conditions and that second storm expected to bring m
ore rain to California this weekend hi Melissa hey Diane and just because parts of California are drying out a bit now well everyone has to be on alert for that second storm that you mentioned coming this weekend into next week but first here's that radar the heaviest rain hit La earlier this morning and now it's moving into places like San Diego and parts of far Southern California where that flood watch is still in effect there and now we have winter storm warnings and winter storm watches str
etching across the Rockies into Colorado so let me time out this first storm for you over the next 24 hours that heavy rain going to move out of California by this afternoon across Phoenix still showery in California but the rain not as bad and then it's going to tap into that Gulf moisture so we're talking this weekend throughout the day on Saturday very heavy rain across parts of the Gulf Coast Houston into Louisiana even eventually into Florida by Sunday and that rain and snow stretching back
to the Rockies one to three feet of Mountain snow for parts of Colorado as well but it's that second storm this first one almost like an appetizer for a potentially stronger storm to move in by Sunday into Monday more flooding rain expected from San Francisco down to Los Angeles and Mountain snow additional one to three feet on top of the feet that they've already seen Diane so really just more wet weather coming to the West Coast they don't really need it all right ABC News Meteorologist Melis
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out their mental health struggles Michael straand sat down with them to discuss the moment they finally asked for help and how we can change the narrative about mental health in the black community a small gathering of some of America's greatest black athletes competing at the highest level but Underneath It All privately struggling with their mental health I'm learning how to live a new life in this new pain and this journey of grief that's like a roller coaster what a play back at the 13 yd li
ne by Solomon Thomas in 2018 New York Jet's defensive lineman Solomon Thomas had just finished his rookie year shortly after his sister Ella died by Suicide that's what he says his mental health struggles began like I grew up the mentality hey like you know be a man be tough like push through it you know after my sister died I had all these emotions and feelings I had never felt before like deep depression deep guilt EXC for I track and field athlete Anna cochrell wow Anna cochr went Blowing by
it was her third year of college when she began to struggle a lot of the typical depression symptoms that you hear about just didn't apply to me I was doing all the things you're supposed to do and still felt terrible and for three-time NBA Allstar towns no hesitation swsh Timberwolves Center Carl Anthony towns it was after losing multiple family members including his beloved mother to covid-19 that his world came to a standstill it was the first time in a way the world was silent and in that si
lence I realized that in this whole process I never took time to take care of myself and I got to a point where I had to start realizing I was deteriora their struggles as unique as their path to Healing my college coach pulled me into her office and she was like what is going on you're smiling and there's no light behind your eyes someone else recognized it before you really wanted to ackn absolutely and I just broke down and she called one of the therapists that day and was like when is your e
arliest appointment an is going to come in for me my general manager John Lyn came up to me and said hey s like uh we have help for you if you need and it was that night that I went home and I faced myself in the mirror and um from that I started going to therapy I Know Carl you did it what some people probably call it unconventional way you didn't go to therapy no if it wasn't for Arie he was the head of the medical Department we've had a close connections he's known me for so long he knew my m
other he would talk about 2 hours of day and just I just tell them how I feel tell them the the mental struggles I'm going through the thoughts I'm having and I felt very comfortable in having those tough conversations with someone that was familiar to me there are many barriers to having these tough conversations in the black community among them stigma access high cost and shame statistics show that only one in three black adults when mental illness obtain treatment how did your teammates reac
t how did your family react I kind of told them after the fact but once I started going and started feeling better that's what opened the door to the conversation because there was a noticeable difference therapy is great when you're in the crisis but I found the most benefit from it when I was going consistently because sometimes you need to get to the root of the problem and not just treat the symptoms I think at first my parents they just didn't quite understand like I think there was a lot o
f struggle for them of thinking what did we do wrong did we make a mistake and having to reassure them almost like a new New Era because you know I I didn't have parents who were were going to be into therapy it was like if you feeling that way you suck it up and you get through it you figure it out old school and not that they didn't care about our feelings they didn't want to hear our feelings they didn't know how to handle it themselves absolutely therapy saved my life for me my mom really en
couraged me to go to therapy and I was really resistant I was reluctant your goal is to always be the best you that you can ever be that's why therapy is so important because it helped me find out who I was like what does my brain patterns revert to when I get anxious or when I get sad and how do I break that I have teammates who they'll come up to me and they'll talk about you know their anxiety or or or some deep times they went through and I I'll encourage like hey Ma it really sounds like yo
u need some professional help and they're just like ah I I can't do that you know this is 2024 now and we're having this conversation I came into the NFL 1993 and it was definitely a totally different world way back then as far as your mental health wasn't even addressed in so many ways it was definitely a stigma of Shame there embarrassment that you were struggling I felt a lot of shame I was really embarrassed when you're stuck in that cycle you feel so empty you feel so alone and you feel lik
e you're the only one going through it to a point where you even feel like you're crazy and and you're not you're human what do you think are the biggest misconceptions when it comes to mental health in the black community the weakness of showing vulnerability I think speaking very broadly like as a black community we are very protective of our image as a community so I think there's some shame and some stigma of wanting to keep things in house for fear of what it will look like if it goes beyon
d our homes or our families I think it's a generational trait I think so too because for years if if we was to say that and our ancestors did that we were even more devalued than we we already were it's something that has plagued our community because of how strong we had to be for so long just to get the right we refuse to allow anything to ruin what we've built see now the weakness and if one person's weak then the community is weak I guess but what can we do to change it how can we change it
things like this yeah like this being able to have four African-Americans on a couch here talking openly about our struggles and and how we've dealt with it Anna we know for black women that their pain is truly often ignored so how does this play to your mental health journey and your advocacy I think that's a big reason for my advocacy at all to speak specifically to black women's experiences and just letting them know you don't have to take everything on your pain your experience your voice yo
ur struggles your success they all matter why is it important for us sitting here today athlete successful to share and talk about mental health because I feel fans think we're the most got it together people in the world and got absolutely no problems for me I believe like having these conversations and and pushing message out is so important because there are so many people out there struggling so if we can have this conversation and have people see that they're not the only ones feeling like
this um these conversations can save these lives I would say as I got older you just realized that self-care truly is the biggest gift you could give yourself in a way it's the cheapest most expensive gift you could be ever gifted I look at this sometimes a tough topic but I look at this conversation as a celebration yeah the celebration of being free enough confident enough strong enough supported enough to share how you truly feel to the world you're serving a greater good by being here our th
anks to Michael Strahan Solomon Thomas Anna cochrell and Carl Anthony towns for that conversation coming up it's time to get your Super Bowl party ready we have the food forecast and where you can score some savings Friday a stalker hun hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you do with that and then a silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun I jumped out of the car I'm the one that go
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brate and cheer them on especially when it comes to your Super Bowl party Staples so let's talk about it if you're hosting this year the cost of food is up slightly by 1% from last year if you're headed out to watch the game well sorry you're going to pay a little bit more because the food at the bars and restaurants jumped by 5.2% at the end of the day Americans are still playing defense against food inflation this year but overall inflation continues to cool the FED is likely done with those a
ggressive interest rate hikes and a signal they actually make lower rates later than this year all right so we want to run the route on our party menu what's a game without the wings you got to have the fresh Wings they're down 5% Frozen down 11% shrimp tacos one word yes the average cost of a pound of shrimp 8.84 that's down nearly 65% from last year store brand chips and dips definitely the way to go prices have jumped on those Major Brands and you can't forget about the cooler you're going to
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cted crimes another mother gun down oh my gosh what you do with that and then a silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun I jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC first thing in the morning there's a lot going on yet another Avalanche warning that's up to catch you up with what happened overnight a dangerous ice storm is impacting the morning commute What happening today esca
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mming the West Coast with flash flooding reported across the bay area and Northern California overnight now 10 states from Texas to Oregon are on alert for flooding heavy snow damaging winds and huge surf Alec Baldwin has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the fatal shooting on the rust movie set his plea cancels his arraignment that was scheduled today meanwhile we're learning new details about the film's weapon super supervisor also facing involuntary manslaughter and other char
ges court documents Show members of the rust crew say they were concerned about Hannah gueris Reed's alleged drug and alcohol use during filming prosecutors say evidence shows Reed brought live rounds onto the set when she first started working on the movie vus Reed denies those claims and has pleaded not guilty to the charges against her a 16-year- old girl is in the hospital after falling from a chair lift at a California ski resort video shows her dangling from the Li LIF at Mammoth Mountain
as other Riders tried to hold on to her workers and guests then set up a net beneath her but she fell through it slamming to the ground below it's still not clear how it all happened but Mountain officials say she was not completely seated this comes after another woman spent 15 hours trapped on a gondola at Heavenly ski resort in freezing temperatures a resort executive says that incident was due to a breakdown in protocols and a New Jersey town is cancelling its annual Groundhog Day event due
to a shortage in groundhogs it's long time groundhog miltown Mel died a few years ago and organizers say finding a replacement has been nearly impossible they say they've called Wildlife centers zoos and exotic breeders but no luck but not to fear Punk ton Phil will still make his official prediction tomorrow morning at Gobbler's Knob meanwhile at least three people are dead and nine others injured after an airplane hanger collapsed at a Boise Airport officials say every everyone who is on site
is accounted for now the occupational safety and health administration's trying to figure out what caused the collapse Melissa Adon has more an urgent investigation underway after a deadly building collapse at an airport in Boise Idaho I currently have three people trapped in elevated in the Genies authorities responding to calls around 5:00 p.m. local time after a private hanger under construction crumbled at least three people killed and nine injured five in critical condition dozens of police
and emergency vehicles on the scene spilling over onto the nearby highway there was a large scale collapse of the building the framework of the building I don't know what caused it it was fairly catastrophic this image capturing what the 39,000 ft hanger and nearby crane looked like less than an hour before the collapse this one taken shortly after the structure mangled and crane on the ground I heard a best way I could describe it is kind of like a dog whining like they it was very loud and it
was very odd noise at the airport and that's when I saw like a house of cards everything just started to fall down in towards itself the company who owns the hanger Jackson Jet Center releasing a statement saying our hearts go out to everyone affected by this horrific event especially those with loved ones on site when this tragedy occurred and Melissa Don joins me now from boys Idaho with more on this Melissa what's the latest on the investigation into what caused this Diane so many questions
floating around right now a sense of huge concern actually just when we were uh leaving our hotel the folks in the lobby they're so worried about construction that was something they highlighted to me and that's something that we can show you really here it is really um impressive to see just how expansive this hanger is and then of course when you take a look of the material that it was made of there were several cranes that were here as it was an active construction site something possibly cou
ld have gone ay that's going to be part of the investigation things like that as to protocol equipment Etc then at the other hand this morning we've been experiencing windy conditions always of course questions as to how weather uh was in effect like late last night Diane and Melissa what do we know about the victims and the survivors here [Applause] oh yeah Diane I mean just from what we're learning as to how this structure collapsed it was an intense rescue effort for these firefighters they h
ad to go through the rubble through the debris so we're talking about dozens that were injured unfortunately at least we learned that three people did not survive five then of those folks that made it out of the debris were sent to the hospital they're in critical condition uh but then of course they had also that search going on to make sure that no one else was unaccounted for that we saw out here in this debris so really a lot here that we hope to find out more details to as the day develops
Diane lot of questions there Melissa Adon thank you and prosecutors in the trial of the mother of M of a Michigan high school shooter say they are ready to call their last witness today the prosecution showed new body cam video of the moments Jennifer Crumbley and her husband were found hiding in a warehouse after the shooting in 2021 now she's expected to take the stand in her own defense Trevor alt has that story The prosecution expected to call their final Witnesses in the trial of Jennifer C
rumbley jurors hearing this crucial call which led police to her and her husband par the shter that are running away they're here after the couple failed to show for their arraignment US Marshals launched a man hunt finding them some 40 Mi away in a commercial building this police body cam video showing the moment James Crumbley was taken into custody Jennifer nearby Jennifer's defense attorney argues the couple only left home because of death threats but were planning to turn themselves in but
prosecutors also produced Facebook messages Jennifer Crumbley sent and then deleted where she wrote the shooter's life is over I need to focus on saving ours and we're on the run again helicopters not sure where to she sent those messages to Brian m with whom she had an affair Malo testifying on multiple occasions Jennifer Crumbley left work to meet him even though she allegedly told school officials the morning of the shooting she couldn't take her son home because she needed to return to work
is she ever tell you um that she didn't have to be at a meeting later in the day on November the 30th 2021 you know in fact she was able to leave work to meet you when it pleased her yes and Trevor Al joins me now from Pontiac Michigan with more Trevor what can we expect to hear from Jennifer Crumbley when she takes the stand well I can tell you what we don't expect to hear Diane and that is Jennifer Crumbley or her attorney claiming she was a perfect mother they have uh fully admitted from the
beginning of this trial that her and her husband made a number of mistakes but that's not necessarily criminal and the argument that I think we're going to hear them make is that she was not aware that her son was having mental health problems or that he was threat to other students we also expect that they're going to hammer the school officials who were there that day who have also admitted that they did not consider their son was going to be a danger and they also have been saying that the gu
n which they bought for their son and that he used in this shooting was locked up although some officials and some investigators have already testified that the weapons that they found were kept in a gun safe with the code 0000 now the prosecution has said they've got two more witnesses that they expect to call today after that they are expected to rest Jennifer Crumbley could be the first witness called for the defense and everyone is going to be watching that testimony Diane and Trevor prosecu
tors are trying to keep the shooters medical and psychiatric records from being introduced how significant is that it could be fairly significant Diane mainly there's there's one uh line of argument in which I think that would really play a key role and that's over the fact that Jennifer Crumbley and her defense attorney argues that they were not aware uh her son was in kind of a downward spiral mentally already in this trial it was introduced that leading up to the shooting he had texted a frie
nd of his saying he'd asked his parents for help for his mental health and essentially he said his dad told him to toughen up and his mom laughed at him when he asked to be taken to a therapist well previously a psychiatrist said that after the shooting he told them he'd never asked his parents for help for his mental health it could be kind of a key component in this involuntary manslaughter trial Dian all right Trevor Alton Pontiac Michigan thank you and historic negotiations are starting toda
y over the price of prescription drugs it's the first time the US government is able to directly negotiate with drug companies until now the drug companies would set their price and the government could only say yes or no but that changed when Congress passed the president's inflation reduction act in 2022 let's bring in ABC's Brad milky host of the start here podcast for more on this Brad how significant in this is this change and how will it work well policy makers say it's hugely significant
because think about how this usually works with your insurance company right when the insurance company says hey go to your Walgreens your drug is approved it's covered that only comes after intensive negotiations right that they've had behind the scenes where you know the drug maker says hey these pills cost 10 bucks each the insurance company says okay but like we're going to send you patients in bulk why don't you give them to us for five bucks each and the patient might never actually see th
e difference but it makes a big difference to whether the insurer is making a profit or not Medicare has never had that opportunity though the US government has never never been allowed to actually negotiate they either have to take the sticker price that the company says here's what you owe or they have to walk away from the table that all changes starting today I talked to the HHS secretary Javier Basera who's basically leading this now that it's legal and they are you know very hopeful that t
his will lower drug prices across the board what kind of drugs could be covered here and who will be able to buy them at these new lower prices well so there's a a list of 10 drugs that are starting today they basically sent out like their opening bid to the drug makers saying you know and these are drugs that treat you know they're the 10 most prescribed drugs for Medicare so they cover diabetes you know heart disease cancer and so the hope is you know that they'll sort of haggle over this over
the next about year and a half and 2026 is when you'd actually see the list price change for this the question you asked though Diane about like who will save money that's kind of the interesting question here because think about how it works with your insurer you don't really notice the price difference when you're the person on the insurance roles right like so the Medicare recipients they might see a difference the you know everyone else it's not like you and I are on Medicare it's not like
Uncle Sam's negotiating on our interests what Javier baser told me is they're hopeful a few things will happen one they say Medicare the system will save a bunch of money and when that happens that means Medicare recipients will get better treatment from other things right they'll have more money to treat you for for other stuff two if Medicare is saving money the taxpayers save money that's where you and I come in right the taxpayers across the country save money three this is the untested part
is he's hopeful that the drug prices will actually go down for everyone that you can't just charge Medicare recipients this low low price and then charge the insurance companies higher PR like private insurers higher prices so the idea and this is kind of untested is that this will actually lower prices for everyone all right we will see and before you go I have to ask you about this story out of Tampa Florida there's some sort of mysterious noise coming from the water what is happening okay so
this is wild because for the last several years on and off residents in South Tampa have noticed this weird kind of a thumping sound is almost like a bass we actually have the the audio here if you want to listen to it right so it's not even like it's kind of like someone has their like car radio on yeah or like it's coming from a car some people it was coming from the water these are all Waterfront communities and people were like it's coming from all around me like Windows were shaking they c
ouldn't quite figure out what it is is it a clerb is it you know is it coming from somebody's speaker well it turns out it's fish having sex no this is fish mating this is the the black drum fish that migrates and mates in South Flor in uh in in South Tamp among other communities good for you Dr this is the mating call of the male fish and it creates this weird like humming noise and so now this woman she's hooked on this story she has put together a GoFundMe for a marine biologist to put microp
hones under the water just to confirm that this is actually it I'd love to know if the human birth rate in Tampa goes up after this if if it's kind of contagious right right we know the fish are into it and it's very rhythmic right and so it really sounds like music it's driving people insane and yet if it's the fish what are you going to do so I guess it's just kind of like we're just kind of figure out if you know we all feel a little bit more Co fish going to drop after listening to this that
is so funny all right ABC's Brad milky thank you for that I'm blushing now and to hear Brad dive into more stories like these check out the St here podcast new episodes drop every weekday morning at 600 Eastern wherever you get get your podcasts coming up a rap beef a WAP beef gone too far why some say Nicki Minaj got two personal in her new disc toward Meg the stallion and why security is now involved also ahead Travis Kelce opens up about his love story the big game and the challenges on and
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ownload it now you're watching America's number one streaming news live reporting breaking new exclusives keep streaming with ABC News live welcome back to ABC News live first at Houston area Cemetery where Megan the stallion's mother is buried is reportedly increasing security after a feud with Nicki Minaj Nikki fans allegedly released the address of the cemetery and reportedly encouraged others to desecrate the rapper's mother's grave site this comes after the two rappers allegedly took Digs a
t each other in their latest dis tracks Reports say nothing has happened to the grave site but officials say they are on high alert I want to bring an ABC News contributor and SiriusXM radio host Mike m and ABC News contributor senior entertainment reporter for ESPN's andscape Kelly Carter for more on this this Kelly Megan's song hiss and Nikki's song Bigfoot with both released in the past week now neither song directly names the other but fans are kind of drawing their own conclusions especiall
y after Nikki made a few posts on Instagram so break this down for us how did we end up with security being heightened at a cemetery it's gone too far hasn't it you know quite frankly when when Megan came out with her song and and in the time that she has talked about it most recently on The Breakfast Club she said she is just talking about anyone who is against her she's not naming anyone's name now while Nikki may not have directly named you know Megan the stallion it is obvious who she is tal
king about and it's deeply personal and um it's it's bad it's bad it sure looks that way Mike diss tracks though are not unusual in the rap world at all so what's different here yeah dis tracks is the foundation of hip-hop music going back to its origin um you think about like from The Rock San Shante days right and being in the ciphers in the Bronx and leading up to it it was always meant to be this very spirited battle ever since the beginning even you think about DJ k herk um and and klar roc
k days in the foundation of when hip hop began it's always been this friendly competition it's always been this friendly battle all the way into current times when you had the infamous uh East Coast versus West Coast with t pox Shakur and Biggy Smalls and then that uh beep ended up going to the next iteration between Jay-Z and Nas right from the Takeover to Ether and so these were always like these big songs they were always big singles it's what made hip hop hip hop but as we go into this new e
ra of social media and as we go into this new era of fandom where everyone has these super fans where before the beefs were neutral and everyone just loved the idea of dis songs um but now the fans have made it so personal um and become more personal attacks that it's infused the beef even further to where we are right now with Megan the stallion and Nicki Minaj to where the beef has just uh got to the point where it's personal um lines have been crossed when you talk about the deceased uh with
Megan's deceased mother and then also two is getting personal now when you talk about sexual or predatorial Behavior Uh inerting Megan's Law now Kelly Nicki Minaj and Megan stallion actually collaborated on a song Just in 2019 a lot of fans say they didn't even know that they had a falling out and Nikki also had an issue with cardi B in the past so what do you make of that is this how you get publicity for new music or what's happening here it's definitely one way to get publicity for new music
isn't it you know I really think that what we're seeing is is Nikki who has long been the queen of of rap music um potentially feeling a little bit threatened by some of this younger talent coming in she's been very vocal about her feelings about cardi B and from from a fan account doesn't appear to have loved that that Megan collaborated with cardi B on on an album after she worked with Meg the stallion in in in 2019 on hot girl summer and so now all of a sudden we're hearing a lot of those gri
evances come out you know in this in this new disc music that that Nicki Minaj just released all right Kelly Carter Mike Muse Mike you mentioned in Tupac we know sometimes this beef can cross from the music and have significant consequences in real life so hoping they can figure out how to settle this one Mike Kelly thank you both and get ready to see a lot more of Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift in the next 10 days Swift will be at the Grammys this Sunday and back on tour next week and then it's
time for the Super Bowl where Kelce and the Kansas City Chiefs will face the 49ers ABC News will reev has more on how the two say they are handling all the attention it it's caught by Kelsey for the touchdown 10 days away from the chance to win his third Super Bowl Kansas City Chief's tight end Travis Kelce is locked in on the big game football is my main focus right now there's a lot of people counting on me in this building in this city and this organization this year in Las Vegas there will b
e a lot of fans locked in on Kelsey not just for his Hall of Fame worthy talent and resume but for his relationship with Taylor Swift Kelsey candidly sharing the challenges of this brighter Spotlight on the Pat McAfee show it's exciting for me but it was all brand new man I I couldn't tell you I mean I've from having the paparazzi follow me every single day into the work to you know just uh everybody having their having my name on their talk show every single day whether it's Sports whether it's
not Sports uh you know it's just been a it's been a crazy crazy ride I could have never anticipated man but um I'm having fun with it Kelsey and Swift breaking the internet with their affectionate onfield celebration after the Chiefs clinched their spot in the Super Bowl Swift's Presence at Chiefs games has repeatedly caused a frenzy though she's typically shown on screen for around just 25 seconds per game according to a New York Times analysis some have called it a distraction Kelsey says he
and Taylor do hear the hate we're just uh we're two people in a relationship supporting each other and having fun with it man it's it's nothing more than that she's dealt with it forever and we hear it but we hardly ever talk about it it's it's nothing to even talk about headed to their fourth Super Bowl in five years Kelsey knows he and the Chiefs have a Target on their backs we got to become that that team that has the grit and has the fire in their heart to be able to find ways to win at the
end of ball games man we just go to we got to feed that beast and turn turn that into being you know the villain of the NFL and sure enough man we're uh we're right back to the Super Bowl with that kind of mentality man he insists no matter what he's staying focused this is my number one focus at the time to be able to you know uh and on top of that I have a it's in my heart to be able to pour everything I got out there on the field will reev thank you coming up which of Beyonce and Jay-Z's kids
are musically inclined Alicia Keys is weighing in and our will Gans is singing that t [Music] next why do so many people start their day here from ABC News this is start here to be in the know and get a different take on the day's top stories a lot of news today so let's get into it listen now to the Daily News podcast honored with four Edward R murl Awards and see news make it your daily first listen now that's a part of the story I bet you didn't see coming wherever you get your podcasts star
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ve first it is time now for the tea where we break down some of the Buzzy stories people are talking about our friend will Gans is here to help us out we'll spill that tea I got some Long Island tea yeah for you this morning Long Island tea Long Island tea Long Island ice tea is the best tea well not at this time of the morning but a certain kind of Long Island te for sure we begin with breaking Billy Joel news people the piano man dropping his first new song in 17 years overnight it's actually
his first new pop song since 1993 it's called turn the lights back on let's take a listen see you now as we're laying in the darkness did I wait too long to turn the light it's back on now we don't know if the new song is indicative of a new album to come but the 74-year-old is set to perform this weekend at the Grammys and maybe he'll make an announcement while he's there the number one comment on this brand new YouTube video I just want to share it because it really touched me I'm 60 years old
Billy Joel is nearly 75 with this new song Time Slips Away and I'm 19 again laying on the living room floor in front of the console stereo with my eyes closed and my parents are here again in the other room letting Billy's music fill the house thank you Billy Joel oh my gosh that is beautiful isn't that so sweet I I was actually at his show in December when he kind of hinted that he was coming out with new music so I've been waiting for this episode of the te but I love going to his shows becau
se you see Generations there together all singing every word to every song it's so awesome I love that he sounds amazing he sounds the same amazing all right speaking of the Grammy's music's biggest night just days away now the Grammy Awards announcing a star studded lineup as awards are handed out on Sunday night taking the stage after celebrating her 70th birthday this week Oprah Winfrey along with Christina Aguilera and Merill Streep so yes this means Oprah Merill and Taylor Swift are all goi
ng to be in the same room at the same time which is a will gan's fever dream of the highest degree also presenting on Sunday Lenny Kravitz maluma and Lionel Richie Trevor Noah serves as host again this year with performances from sisa Olivia Rodrigo and Joanie Mitchell by the way if Taylor Swift wins album of the Year this year she'll be the most awarded artist ever in that category beating a record that's currently held by Frank Sinatra Stevie Wonder and Paul S wo that's a lot a lot to look for
ward to on Sunday night also excited for this Garrett Morris a small screen Legend who starred in sitcoms like the Jamie Fox show Martin and the weigh-in Brothers being honored today in a very big way on the west coast Morris getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame after a career stretching back to the 60s when he worked on Broadway before becoming the first black cast member of SNL in 1975 the ceremony today also falls on his 87th birthday good for him well deserved happy birthday to you M
r Morris and finally to queen bee and her family where it turns out duh the musical Gene is very strong you don't say you don't say Alicia Keys telling Access Hollywood that Bee's youngest daughter roomie is a singer just like her mom Alicia says that she loves spending time with the Carter family made up of course of Jay-Z Beyonce their daughter Blue Ivy and their twins who are 6 years old sir and roomie adding that roomie sings All of Alicia Key's songs she's her little pumpkin pie she's so so
adorable this coming of course after Blue Ivy made her stage debut with mom over the summer in the Renaissance World Tour and I'm going to say it here Blue Ivy kind of stole the show so now it's room's turn which is hard to do when you're standing next to beonce to Beyonce exactly it was my favorite part of the tour though watching Beyonce watch blue IV all right we're out of time will Gans love you bye love you bye cheers love you bye we'll be right back Friday a stalker hunt women makes me sh
udder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother guned down oh my gosh what you do with that and then a silver minivan pulls up he reaching for the gun I jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most wa
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g I Boston is in the bullseye let's go ABC News live America's number one streaming news anytime anywhere streaming 24/7 straight to you for free thank you for making ABC newsline America's number one streaming news hello everyone I'm Kira Phillips I want to take you straight to the courtroom now in Pontiac Michigan where Jennifer Crumbley has now taken the stand testifying in her own defense you'll remember this Michigan uh mom of the high school shooter is the one that is facing four counts of
involuntary manslaughter after giving her son access to his murder weapon let's listen in okay thank you [Music] Jud we still to inquire if counc on any other defense but is after Mrs I'm not sure it depends on child care so who would that person be I'm not sure I they have never told me who they were calling I'm not sure I thought they told you the night before yeah I'll tell them tonight I just need I haven't I I've been in court with Mrs Crumbley all day so I don't know who I'm calling next
okay it I think I guess it's going to be hard to believe that we're going to get past her maybe we will maybe we will do you think we will I don't know it depends how long the Cress is I believe I'll get through her all right for the jury may see be correct yes thank you Mrs would you affirm the testimony about today is a true that I do thank you would you state your name to the record your first it's Jennifer crumblyy j e n n i f e r c r u m b l e y go ahead I'm going pull the podium up just so
I can see a little bit better okay sure uhoh I don't know what that was I think it might have been the microphone microphone move it it seems like it became detached all right good afternoon I just need to get is there anywhere we can put the screen on sure usually that one goes test so and what I'm going to have to do is um I'm going to leave this unplug for a moment so that when I need an it I'll just plug it in okay because I I don't have those fancy like in between the slides this one this
one they don't all go on simultaneously they don't okay guess I feel like I'm the only one who can see this one's not on oh there all three of them on let's see what happens when I just go like okay I'm going to have to I'm going to have to pull it out each time so I I apologize in between witness um out all right Mrs crumblyy can you please start by identifying yourself tell the jury who you are uh my name is Jennifer Crumbley and I'm the defendant in this case and how old are you I'm 45 Mrs Cr
umbley can you I the jury has heard so much testimony do you agree yes okay if there's I'm going to go a little bit faster through things and if there's something we need to explain um or if I'm cutting you off let me know okay and you understand that as I speak you have to wait for me to finish speaking correct okay so Mrs crumblyy very briefly go ahead tell the jury what you did for a living I was a marketing director at a real estate acquisition company and how long did you hold that position
5 years now does that kind of position include any kind of presentations or public speaking anything like that not a lot okay and how do you feel right now about talking to this jury um public speaking is probably my biggest fear so very nervous okay and um at times um you have been upset during this trial is that correct correct um are you okay to keep proceeding yes um I want you to tell this JY just a little bit about about your personality and I think we've seen some of it on the videos is
that fair to say yeah okay let's talk about when you have a really stressful situation what is your like let's say an animal dies in your family or a person dies in your family how do you how do you do you handle something like that news like that um I go into a go planning mode um I internalize things and my reaction is to take care of other things that may have be taken care of like um financials or things that keep the house running um I just I tend to hold things in and I let it out when I'm
alone so having a lot of motions for me is is difficult now in this case um aside from this case is that true in other situations of your life yeah um can you give the jury like an example yeah my um my husband had a hard time holding down a job after his mother passed away um so when he would lose a job I would actually be the one finding the ones for him and sending them a m or Monster and taking taking plans of how we're going to put certain things on payments um it's just I take control of
things that's just what I do okay and you um I want to talk to you you mentioned your husband how when did you and James Crumbley meet um in October of 2004 and how long have you been together then it will be 18 years this September and are you still together and married at this time we are have you spoken to him recently no how long has it been since you've spoken to him a little over two years so since the day of the shooting correct or not shooting the day you were arrested correct you have a
son yes the jury's heard a lot about your son okay I want to talk about your son prior to November 30th okay okay tell the jury how old he was at that time he was 15 years old and tell give the jury an idea of about what kinds of things he was into what his Hobbies included oh he was really into bowling he was actually really good at it um he was into metal detecting um he was what do you mean by metal detecting he um we have a metal detector so we would go to the beach or we went to Florida ou
t by the ocean or the the neighbors yard they weren't there anymore so we go in the neighbor jard and see if he could find old old coins or cans or whatever he would find but he really likeed that um he was into uh his BB guns in target practice we had a half acre um of land in the village of Oxford that went stra back so in the backyard we set up little targets that we got from Amazon that you can just kind of Sho down like little whatever um see he was into he was into his video games um he di
d soccer from age three until ninth grade he was a he had a lot of different a lot of different interest coin collecting do you have some interests I do okay we've heard about horses I like horses um ala snowski um I'm a big reader and I worked a lot so I didn't have a lot of time to do the reading okay now when you say snow skiing did you ever oh back up were there any activities that you and Ethan enjoyed doing together yes um I joined the ski patrol because the family can ski free um and also
to help people out so I got him into skiing at the age of seven and he would come out to with me on my patrol shifts and come skiing with me so we were in that together what about horses did he ever go out to the barn with you he did um but he didn't really like horses the one horse I had was kind of aggressive so it intimidated him and it kind of turned him off from going to the barn it's kind of boring if you're not the person with the horse there's a lot of standing around and lot of nothing
okay so what would you spend time together with him at home yeah okay tell the jury what kinds of things you guys did as together or as a family um we did a lot of board games uh we also had the um virtual reality set for the PS4 we did a lot of the beat saer you can probably Google I don't even know what you're talking about it's like um it's like you're holding lightsabers and it has music and you have to like hit the Beats but it's all in 3D so it's a virtual reality headset okay so you woul
d do that with him yeah okay what else we had a pool like swim together um I mean really just normal stuff okay did you do holiday things we did give us some examples um so every year around uh Thanksgiving I always cook Thanksgiving dinner um the day after we would go cut our Christmas tree down and then um we' decorate that weekend we'd watch National and que Christmas Vacation um Halloween we grew our own pumpkins um so we always carved and carved our own pumpkins and had a whole bunch put ar
ound the house um Easter was and it's normal normal family SCH did you have um an interest in Like Home Improvement kind of stuff yeah um our house was an auction house um so basically it was wrapped in blue tarp when we bought it at auction so we've been trying to improve the house since 2015 um so we new roof um exterior exterior and then we I've been working on exterior and interior ever since um where there things that um your son was interested in outside of video gamees was there anything
academic that he was interested in he really liked history he was a big history buff um we can play trival Pursuit and he would get me in history every single time um but that that's probably his that was probably his only favorite subject the rest he could do without how did he do in school he did good if he applied himself um his problem was he didn't try as hard as I think he could so he was he he had up and down grades I would say he it's about average okay and when you you say about average
um was that something that you talked to him about was that something you monitored tell the jury about that yeah um you heard about the power school app during this trial so I had it on my phone and I was on it multiple times a day and his his grades are fluctuate based on what assignments the teachers turned in on the power school app our biggest struggle with him were missing assignments that was the one thing we battled all the time why was that a hot button issue for you cuz there's no rea
son why he should missing assignments he had a Home Room class and can get assignments done in okay um there were um you talked about your job what were the average hours you worked a week um I usually worked I got the office between 700 and 8: in the morning and leave anywhere between 4: and 6 and we've heard lots of evidence already it was familyfriendly were you able to go and leave and go as you needed to pretty much yep um did you care about your job I did a lot okay explain um did you have
any changes in positions over the year or year and a half two years before this I did um when I first started with the company I was hired in as a social media coordinator um I stayed in that role until about 2020 I got promoted to director of marketing um and I I held the position until I I was terminated okay and you were um did you work during Co I did I worked remotely for about six months during Co I went back to the office in believe it was August of 2020 did you enjoy work I did it was f
un it was um marketing it's exciting and I like doing graphic design um I did I really liked my job now the jury already heard about Brian Brian testified correct um tell the jury about Brian um well I've known him since high school we've been friends since then um you know uh he's part of the horse Community he has horses and um as you heard yesterday we did have an extramarital affair it's probably the extent of our but yeah but we were we were good friends too how often would in terms of the
affair how often would you spend time together with Brian during 2021 maybe an average of once a week okay how long did how long did the affair last over U about six months do you feel like that Affair caused you to neglect Ethan or not spend time with him I'm sorry your son in any way no explain why why you don't feel that's the case because when I met with Brian it was in the mornings um on his way home from the station he would pass my work and so the time I was coming to work we' meet at the
Cal parking lot and that was it he got about his day I go about mine and is it fair to say that you lied to keep that Affair going yes I did and what I apologize if I I asked this I might have I just that bring notes did you say the when that the date range that that started it was around spring of 2021 okay and did as far as you knew did you ever talk to that to your son about that no and did you ever talk to your husband about it no if anything you lied lied to him about what you were doing o
r lied by Omission not telling him no yeah as far as he knew I was going to work in the morning that was okay um outside of those morning times how many other times would you say you and Brian got together it was two or three um I went on some business trips where I would stay overnight and he would meet me he would meet me at the hotel so that happened two or three times two or three times were there other business business trips you took where he did not meet you yeah there's quite a few um wh
en Christy Gibson Marshall testified do you remember who she was I do who was she she was the assistant vice principal and she she commented she knew Ethan in elementary or she knew your son in elementary school correct correct and she said she testified obviously already about recognizing him did that surprise you no she also mentioned something about emails with you do you recall having email exchanges with her there is one with regarding his report card um getting additional help in in math w
as there any time at that point or into high school that you ever had to email with teachers about discipline issues not discipline no how often would you email about missing assignments or grade type issues that was a regular regular thing okay and you said you monitored power schools every day approximately how many times a month would you say you went to the teachers or was it weekly I don't know it would be um I want say it was on a regular basis but when it happened it was a series of messa
ges um he'd be struggling in geometry and so me and the teacher would message back and forth quite a bit and then he started getting better and it was die off so it was it was sporadic but it was a lot when it happened now um we saw pictures of your house how did you feel about seeing those pictures horrible okay why is that um cuz my son has a very messy room and it was right after Thanksgiving like right after Thanksgiving and we hosted Thanksgiving and um it was pretty messy it was kind of em
barrassing okay really embarrassing explain the two-bedroom thing or what was going on with that um so e sorry my son um he had one bedroom and it got out of control and every time I go to clean it I just shut the door I just didn't want to deal with it so then I told him he could just use the guest bed room until I can get his room deep cleaned um the day before Thanksgiving I was deep cleaning we have people over every Thanksgiving and my intention was to clean both rooms but I caught my oven
on fire in the C clean mode so instead of I had the fire department out and everything um so instead of getting his rooms clean I'm scraping out the black charcoal stuff inside your oven so I could cook dinner the next day um but yeah he was in a second bedroom because I just I didn't want to clean his room anymore it was just it was enough did you have any plans um to do anything with all that stuff yeah um we're going through a lot of stuff because he outgrew a lot of the clothes and his shoes
there's a lot of toy like things that he doesn't use use anymore so we're just going to pack it up and donate it okay and when were you planning to do that between Thanksgiving and Christmas before he got new stuff now we saw a video um I guess I want to talk to you about there's one friend in particular you your son spent a lot of time with correct correct okay we're not going to say his name but let's just refer to him as the friend okay okay overall was that his your was that your son's only
friend that was his only friend that came over he did have friends that he talked to during school but that was the only one that he spent time with outside of school and how often would you say he came over oh he used to walk home with him every day um from school the summertime he' come Camp he' go on camping trips with us sometimes he would spend more than a week with us he called him my second son okay he was the second son did you know he was going to be moving away at any point not that a
bruptly no okay so when he moved away is it fair to say it was a surprise to you and your son it was um what kinds of things would the would the boys do together at your house oh they go down to Lake and go fishing um they would walk to Little Little Caesars or Frosty Boy um they go in the backyard shoot the BS they go swimming in the pool we took them bowling a lot they just they don't play video games now when you so when you had him over at the house or I guess was it was it more common for h
im to be at your house or for your son to be at at his friend's house my son has never been to his house okay why why is that um because he had OC at my son the his friend had OCD issues and he didn't want other people in the house at your house did did that friend exhibit any issues no not at all okay so were you surprised when he when he moved yeah very surprised um we saw evidence that you had Life 360 on your phone and it was on James's phone right correct can you tell the jury what Life 360
is what the point of it is why it's on the phone it um it's a family tracking app so you know where people are at um my my husband's mother-in-law got sick in the middle of April and instead of me worrying about where he was while he was down in Florida with his mother and I was up here we just installed the app on his phone so I knew if he was at the hospital if I knew he was at his dad's house so just that way I have to bottom I'm always worried about worried about him and places he goes so i
t's just one thing that ease my mind a little bit do you um is that something you frequently text uh message your husband where are you where are you where are you MH a lot okay so the jury's going to see the entire stack of exhibits if they go through all of your messages how often a week would you say you're on top of him about where he is daily what what about your son were you worried ever worried about where he was I mean not during the day he was at school if he didn't get home from school
the time he supposed to I would worry about him okay and um did you ever ask James about him in your messages yeah okay um the prosecution uh introduced evidence that makes it sound like you and James only talk about these hes in the form of the question makes it sound and this is direct exam that cross so Le should be not needing question um how often how often would you say you discuss your horses versus your son when you're messaging each other a lot more than I lot more with the horses why
is that um because hor my horses at least were accident prone um and my husband didn't know a lot about horses they were more my thing with him working from home a lot of times I'd have him go out and check on them tell them what to to do um he started getting to him he has questions I knew my son was at school I know where he was at during the day I talked to him after school horses can't talk so if something's wrong we got to kind of figure it out but yeah we talked a lot about horses would yo
u is it fair to say that did you have additional conversations with James about horses Andor Ethan yeah how often would you and James talk about or talk to Ethan well talk to him every day um talk about him probably every day too okay what kind of did Ethan have scheduling things you had to work out yeah he um he he had bowling practices throughout the week bowling matches and he worked part-time at a diner so we had we had to work out transportation and scheduling with that um in terms of your
relationship with your son how did you think your relationship was I thought we were pretty close um we would talk we would I mean we did a lot of things together um I trusted him and I felt like I had an open door and he can come to me about anything I mean I felt I felt as a family where we were three of us really close okay you're getting a lot no it's okay you're getting a lot of redness here is that normal um yes because I'm talking in front of people and my nerves act up so I get splotchy
and I might break out in hives and I apologize okay but you are okay yeah I'm fine okay um so with regard to to your son did you ever go through his text messages go through his bedroom um what kind of a parent were you in terms of going through those things I did not go through his text messages um I didn't have a reason to his bedroom I would go through when I clean it and I come across things I look through it to see if there was something need to keep or throwa away um but I never went went
through his taxt M what about you did say he went through his grades correct um did you end up having discipline issues with him a couple of times we did yes what kind of things would those be over uh Missing assignments and his grades okay well any any other things that were discipline issues no at school or at home no was there ever a time where you took away your son's phone yes okay do you recall when that was um I don't remember exactly I just know um he got really angry about it but we too
k an away a couple of times um we've taken his video games away um why did you do that missing assignments and his grades okay so same stuff same stuff okay um we're going to talk about some of the text messages um um and you would agree the prosecution admitted some text messages about one of those times when you took away his phone correct okay so we'll get there okay um I want to talk about mental health did you ever believe that your son needed mental health treatment therapy counseling anyt
hing no I mean there's a couple of times where Ethan expressed anxiety over taking test um anxiety about what he was going to do after high school whether it was College U military so he expressed those those concerns to me um but not not to a level where I felt he needed to go see a psychiatrist or mental health professional right away no did you ever deny him or say no I'm not going to take you to mental health professional did he ever ask you no I mean he one time um when he was talking about
what he wanted to do for the for his future I don't know he just he was feeling really down about it stressed um we did we did my husband did call his school counselor to try to talk to him because they do a lot of future academic planning with the tech school um was that a mental health issue no it was more or less addressing what was upsetting my son at that time okay and what was the what was upsetting him the fact that he didn't know what he wanted to do his grades weren't that great so he
was stressed out about getting into college um he just he was just having a hard time with his future goals was there ever a time he was considering military he talked about it yes okay any other things that he talked about um he wanted to be he wanted to go into video he wanted to design video games um he wanted to own his own car shop like not be the mechanic but own the shop that mechanics worked at but that was about that was about it okay um were there other kinds of Health um treatments yo
u you did get for him like did you take him to the doctor yeah how often or for what um when he got sick if it was obviously uh well during Co it was different because every little thing I freaked out about so we would take him to get a covid test or take him to the doctors um but growing up it would just be if he had a headache that persisted for quite for longer than a week um but most things are not nothing serious did you was did he have insurance did you have insurance coverage on your son
my husband did okay always or were there times where you didn't all the way up through October of 2021 when my husband lost his job and I was going to add him on to my health insurance in November of 2021 at the end of the enrollment period that was the only time that insurance last with him was that one of the outstanding things going on on the day that all of this unfolded it was despite um in addition to physically going to the doctor did you have access to some kind of virtual plan yeah thro
ugh my company it's called Allied Health Network it's a virtual it's a virtual doctor's visit um and actually the prescriptions were free too they didn't cost anything so we use that if you had strep throat you can take a picture of the throat send it to the doctor and they can they can treat it from there were there times that you called that uh did virtual visits regarding your son yeah and were there times did you ever go to an urgent care or anything like that yep for what kinds of things um
well usually for sports physicals but if he had a really if he was younger and had a really high fever and his regular doctor couldn't get him in we take him to the Urgent Care he's never had an injury or anything so mainly just that was there ever a time that he had an issue with a mole on his back yeah he had um a mole in the middle of his back and when I was putting sunscreen on him I noed it changed color so I made an appointment for the doctor to take him in to take a look at that now that
was when he was much younger correct he was about seven I believe you mentioned something about headaches for a week uh you took him to the doctor was there a time where he had a headache issue yeah he was getting really bad headaches that we couldn't figure out what it was um when was that started started young probably around five five years old and he kept complaining um the doctors didn't really see anything U we even got X-ray of his head to see if there was any bumps is a relevance when h
e's five or six years old I just I was ask I didn't know when it was I was just asking if she got a medical care but it's gone on through the years it okay okay go ahead um so then we found out that he needed glasses so around 8 or n9ine we got him glasses since that didn't work um he when we he got x-rays done for dental and Middle School found out he had a severe o underbite which was causing tension in the back of his neck so we got him braces in 8th grade and once he had his braces that seem
ed to fix the headaches okay now with the braces was that was that an easy process no why not cuz he's horrible at brushing his teeth um he would he would use the water pick we got him um he wouldn't brush properly he would constantly get cavities in his braces so we end up taking the wires out cuz one time he had 13 C was it more after the braces yeah because he wasn't brushing properly around his braces so there he was getting them under and we had to get the wires removed and take them to get
those filled until we can get the wire put back on so it was like an off andon procedure yeah okay um I want to go through some exhibits for you that with you that the defense has proposed as exhibits a I'm sorry B through xx and I'm going to ask I wanted to add one more on as y why judge the council's proposed a number of exhibits from appear to be from Facebook not from a subite extraction but from Facebook some predate the incident by years so as far as relevance judge I don't mind any exhib
its around the date of the offense or even the relevant time periods spring of 2021 but prior to that it doesn't appear to be relevant you're under the def they had the specific pictures I was using since October the specific pictures isolated not all the pictures but specific pictures I was using they never filed a motion to exclude any of those they they don't they don't have to right okay so we'll go exhibit by exhibit I haven't seen any of the exhibits so they they obviously will be differen
t okay can I your honor would you like me to bring you the hard copy and then when the if the exhibit's okay we can put it on the screen yeah if it's submitted we put it on the screen okay and um I did them just they have a copy copies of all yeah I haven't seen any of them so and we've um I've actually had them redacted and then sent the redact version to cut out the faces of any miners okay okay so I'm going to bring the court um what's been marked as B through this is y why if it's admitted B
through y why may approach sure thank you okay now B is um I now I have a a little bit of a problem because I was going to have my client hold those so I don't put them on the screen I because I I don't know which ones if any the prosecution will stipulate to um so I can give I can give us to her okay so the first exhibit proposed exhibit is B um it's several yeah several Pages um it shows thumbnails throughout the years so the jury can see the variety of things posted on because the prosecutio
n introduce text messages how many pages is I believe it's 14 they're just like um thumbnails I'm not going to go through each thumbnail either I'm I'm just wondering what is the second one it's C Exhibit C Exhibit C would be the next exhibit okay do you recognize what what the court has just handed you yes okay what what is in exiii what does it appear to be um these are pictures I've posted on Facebook okay and there's a lot lot lot of them is that a fair statement yes okay are those um those
are all the pictures you posted on Facebook are they're not from any they're from the whole period correct mean what's the period Well when do those start and and go through um I would say mainly 2,000 there dates on that copy there no dates on my cop I don't think there's any dates I can I can tell by the looks like from 2020 to 2021 now those do you post on Facebook a lot I do like way too much I do okay so I am not going to go through every Facebook post you've made you understand that right
yeah okay would would this exhibit give the jury an idea of what you post about generally if they just took a look at the variety of pictures yes I have to object is the relevance again it's from the time period That's Rel it I have no objection to these coming in but even the defendant doesn't know with specificity when these were taken she says they start in 2020 she thinks no I know and there's there's no there's no dates on there yeah you'll have your turn there's no dates on there and um if
it's from the spring of 21 onto the shooting event that's fine the made it sound you you specifically asked you guys have talk at the same time sorry I did all right so so B appears to be a thumbnail version of pictures the rest of the exhibits are pictures with dates next to them okay that might be the best way to go through which ones are from the right date and which ones are okay well date wise um this happened um November 30th 2021 that's right and um things have been put into evidence wit
h regard um to the defendant and the shooter um as first early as April of 202 March March okay so your honor I believe they've gone back longer in terms of some of the testimony that's come out well I guess I was going to say that so I I don't think that the pictures starting in 2020 are are that remote I I don't know if there's any I I don't know if there's anything amongst those pictures that is particularly problematic it's hard to look at them all but the time frame and of itself I think is
appropriate well there are some just so that it's aware there's 20 post from 2017 2019 those are in the those are in the those are in the following ones where I did picture by picture so those those will go through after this exhibit this exhibit being um Is 2020 and 2021 okay so just with regard to the time frame itself I think the time frame is close enough in time so um I'm going to overrule an objection with regard to the mission of those pictures just based on the time frame right but I yo
u know there's a lot of little pictures so I don't you know I don't know if any ex by ex you sorry I so we can go exhibit by exhibit okay the P the pictures in 2020 the pictures and defendant exhibit are small so the exhibit contains a lot of low pictures so I haven't looked at those I assuming the prosecution has so I don't know if pictures are objectionable with with regard to the individual pictures so just it's the it's the the relevant dat was the objection okay okay so Mrs crumblyy the jur
y is going to get these if they want to sit and look at all of them okay I don't want to go through all of them there ends up being pages and Pages what are all of these um the ones that are on the screen right now is Christmas of 2020 with the two white dogs and US posing from the Christmas tree I'm just trying to get like an over idea of topics that in the photos animals um going on vacations at the Sleeping Bear sand dunes um Lela camping holidays more camping horses Garden my home home stuff
cooking more camping pictures um we got a bathroom remodel another Christmas picture okay and so these pictures um give an idea of the variety of things you posted yes okay so if your Facebook messages appear to have more discussion of horses um how would you characterize the amount of horses on Facebook compared to the rest of your life over the last couple years more um it was hard getting a picture of my son when he's as he got older he didn't like me taking pictures of him but yeah over bet
ween 200 20 up until 20 and 21 um there was a lot of pictures of horses okay I'm going to unplug this um and move to Exhibit C um I oh you want me to get this this goes back to 2019 I just put like one or two pictures from that year um as it C well c and d and so if the court just wants to let me know what c okay so C and she's you can identify those pictures yes what's in C what's the date of it um it is June 26 2019 okay and and um what is that what is it a picture of it's a picture of my son
holding his chinchilla okay and then what about um picture uh let's see here D do you need the date yeah what's the date it's August 9th 2019 okay and what's the picture of um my son petting our horse Okay um you know judge it's it's fine I don't have any problem with you okay C ad yeah the rest of them the rest of them yep okay thank you okay so um then you be talking about e through I I I don't know if it's just pictures there's some others this goes to XX so and I'm sorry it should go it shou
ld go to y y because I added on just one more so may I approach Mrs Crumbley just to give her y why okay do you want me to give this to all to her yes and then we'll just go through each one do you agree with all these ex yes we just need the dates identify that's awesome we'll put those on the record well I'm not going to hand them to if I need to look at them first so I think they're not objecting to any of them are they no no okay no okay so this is jur is going to have access to these so let
's just go through them um we are going to identify the dates for the record go okay so going to exhibit um let's see here this is uh C what's the date on C that's June 26 2019 and what is that that's um my son with his CH Chilla okay now I'm going to go down to D what's the date on that one um that one's August 9th 2019 okay and what's going on in there um that's my son with our horse okay I'm going to go to e um that's his first day of e8th grade that's August 26 2019 okay and um it's fair to
say that I just picked out these are not all your posts right and I don't want to keep checking but form of the question has to be appropriate fair to say this is the direct exam I'm asking a really stupid question but I'll ask I'll ask it in a better way am I showing every photo from your Facebook page no um you post more or how many do you post more photos than what we see a lot more okay we're not going to go through all of them though okay so this is the first day of what I'm sorry last day
of it's the last day of middle school it's the first day of 8th grade okay I'm going to go down to F what's been admitted as F what's what date is that on um October 11th 2019 okay and what's happening in that photo oh he just got his braces put on okay and let's go down to uh the next one which is G what's the date on G um October 13th 2019 what's happening in G we're apple picking okay so these are just postive events or things you're doing correct correct okay this one is older it looks like
what's or maybe not older but what's the date on this one this is I'm sorry I'm on H mhm okay go ahead uh November 7th 2019 okay and we see um your son in this picture on the left correct correct what's going on in this picture he's on his um the ninth grade Washington DC trip with the school okay I'm going to go down to I what's the date on I uh May 23rd 2020 and what's happening in that picture um we're can you screw up a little bit we're somewhere at North I don't remember where but we're on
probably a camping vacation okay he doesn't look thrilled to be in the picture he doesn't like pictures okay um let's go down to Jay uh what's the date of Jay uh May 23rd 2020 who's in this picture uh it's my son and James okay I'm going to go down to K is this this is a post you made yes what date um August 5th 2020 what are you showing there um the house when we first bought and the improvements we made so far okay so this is like a comparison before and after yes all right uh L what's the dat
e on L August 16th 2020 okay and there's a large black box out what was what's under the box without saying who it is his friend okay so where are you guys in this picture uh looks like we're up north okay then we're going to go to m and we're on September 28 I'm sorry what's the date of this picture um September 28 2020 okay what's this picture that's a picture of my son and our horse Okay um I'm going to end uh what date is this October 23rd 2020 okay and what is this a picture of something Et
han Drew sorry my sunre okay and why did you include this why did you post about that on Facebook because I he's always a really good drawer you can he just draws all the time and we got we got a lot of artists um actually tattoo artists in our family lot of good draw so said it was in his jeans okay that's why you said art is in his je in the jeans okay all right I'm going to owe uh what's the date on this one um October 30th 2020 okay and what's going on here uh we are carving pumpkins for Hal
loween and there's a big black box that's his friend okay um I am going down to uh P what's the date on that one uh November 21st 2020 okay and who who is around for this picture even if you can't see them in the picture um it's me and my husband and my parents were down in um Florida uh over Thanksgiving and what is this that you're doing we're playing Dark Tower okay did you guys play games with Ethan often yes what games did you guys play we played um trivia Pursuit we played what the mem we
played yatsi um we play card games we played a lot of Uno um uh the one with all the dice far farle I think it's called yeah farle um I don't know we just we played a lot of games okay I'm going to go down to exhibit Q uh what date's that um that's November 24th 2020 okay and we see um who who's in the picture uh my husband and my son okay exhibit s what's the date uh January 22nd 2021 okay what's going on in R um my son his friend are playing Jenga okay um s do you know the date on S um can you
scroll up it's for some reason this one is different well it looks like it says February 25th 2021 and what's going on here what's happening in February of 21 um they're at a bowling match okay now um let's go down to T what's the date on t February 26 2021 and what's happening here um my stepdaughter came up and visited from Florida and that's my son with his arm around her okay and um in it with these photos again are there on your real Facebook profile are there more photos or is it just wha
t we're seeing there's more okay so what's the date on this exhibit you um May 15th 2021 okay and what's the point of this post there's a couple pictures it was showing um our backyard improvements that we done since we bought the house okay and then um let's go to V what's the date on V uh May 16th 2021 what are you showing here our garden okay now um this is W what's the date on W May 29th 2021 okay and who's that uh it's my son and be his kitten okay um Dexter is mentioned in one of the tapes
is that correct yes what how is Dexter mentioned um when we were at the substation I asked my son why and he said because I just did take care of Dexter for me so when he said take care of Dexter he meeting his kitten um X what's the date on X May 29th 2021 okay and what's going on on this on this date um my son and Dexter hanging out his bed okay we're going to go to why what's the date on this one I'm sorry I'm was going too fast May 31st 2021 okay what's who's in this one my son and his kitt
en okay um Z what's the date on this one June 13th 2021 and where are you guys we're at Cedar Point is this like a family trip yes did you guys do a lot of family trips yes okay a lot of family trips during summer of 202 yeah okay um we're here uh in exhibit uh AA what's that Yik I bumped it um what's the date on this one uh June 26 2021 what are you showing here uh my garden okay this is exhibit BB what date June 27 2021 okay and what are you doing there in the pool did you guys go in the pool
with your son often yeah yeah he he come join he join us okay and then let's see here we've got CC uh date uh July 4th 2021 what's going on here um my son and his friend are playing bat M against my parents okay is this at your house yes um DD uh date July 11th 2021 okay what is this um me and my son and his friend were were we found a little spot off the pan Trail which runs through Oxford and there was some weird big boy stuff going on so we kind of walked around and checked it out okay um let
's see here e it looks like there's two posts on this date um what date is that that's July 30th 2021 okay and what's happening in these posts um the first one I posted um my son and his friend were both passed out from a lot of hiking we did that day okay what what about the next photo from those are pictures of the campground that we were at okay and so you took is it fair to say you had the front end vacation yeah most of the time okay um July 31 I'm sorry what's the date on this one I'm on F
F um July 31st 2021 okay what is this uh we went to S Bear sand dunes okay and where it says like plus 29 what does that mean there's 29 more photos that go along with that okay we're not going to show them all though okay all right we're going to GG what's going on here uh what's the date uh August 21st 2021 what are you guys doing August 21st 2021 uh my son and his friend were putting up a tent in our backyard and doing backyard camping okay what's the next one uh you posted this on what date
I posted on August 21st 2021 okay and what's the point of this post um it was a memory from 3 years ago of my son his friend uh with our horse and I was pointing out to um to my to my son's friend's mom that they were so small for years ago okay uh what about this one what's the date on let's see here I I um August 25th 20121 okay what's this that's his first day of school okay what grade uh 10th grade and let's go to JJ what's this date um August 29th 2021 okay what's going on in this picture u
m me and me and my son were taking a picture for his um old football coach um the I tagged him in it um was the only picture he would take with me so he could say hi to his coach rope all right what about um date on this one which is marked as KK um September 6 2021 and what's going on there um my son's leash training his kitten do cats ever walk on a leash it wasn't successful okay um uh next picture LL what's the date um September 18th 2021 okay and what are you doing here uh we ran at a house
a house boat for the weekend and my husband and I are walking around the outside on the dock and sneaking pictures the boys inside the house Bo house Bo playing card games why were you sneaking pictures of them cuz they won't let us take any pictures of them okay typical teenagers all right mm um what's that date September 18th 2021 okay and what were the photos here it was I know it was the house boat weekend we went to um Mao City so I think it was something in Mao City okay and then the blac
ked out box is that the friend I think it's the I think it's the friend's parents the friend's okay oh no the friend but never mind I saw never mind okay NN what's the date on this one um September 21st 202 21 okay and what's this uh my son and Dexter sleeping and now we are at September 20 I'm sorry what's the date on this one I'm on o um September 26 2021 okay what does that show um we were breaking up our our side steps the deck and planting a flower bed in the front of the in the front of th
e house okay so we're in Fall of 21 is that fair yes okay okay what's the date on this picture I'm on PP October 3rd 2021 okay what's this pict what are these pictures about um we decorated our house for for the Halloween okay and then let's go here to QQ date October 9th 2021 and what's shown in this picture our our front porch that we redid okay called it a makeover it was all right and then let's go here to our R uh what date is that that October 15th 2021 okay and what are you doing there um
I was just showing the like what we've got so far with the paint job um remodeling the living room and dining room basically okay um next one is uh SS what's the date on this one October 25th 2021 okay what is this this was a text I sent to my son um him and my husband were going somewhere I don't remember but I was just checking in said you guys were okay and my son made the comment no we're in the back of a white van headed to Alabama cuz he's very sarcastic and I found it funny and I posted
it okay um was he did you did was he sarcastic more I'm sorry explain the sarcasm Ian that's that's an example of it right there okay um yeah he he was always sarcastic always messing around with us okay when you say messing around with you we're gonna we're going to get that to that when we talk about some other posts is that fair okay okay so let's go down to this Photograph TT what is this what date that's October 29th 2021 okay and um what are you doing that's where we're on the virtual real
ity playing Beat saber okay and then this this one U you okay what's the date on this one November 26 or 25th 2021 okay and what's going on here uh Thanksgiving okay Thanksgiving is this Thanksgiving Day yes so this would have been Thursday correct okay we're going to talk more about the next couple of days more slowly but I'm going to go through the pictures first okay and then I'm going to take them off the screen so we can talk a little more is that all right yeah okay so what's the PO what i
s this post what's the date on this one Viv uh November 25th 2021 and what is this picture what are these pictures showing um uh our family my aunt and uncle my cousin her husband and then me James and son and shows us um playing dice okay or left right center is this on Thanksgiving yes all right and then um on WW what day is this then uh that's November 26 2021 okay and what were you guys doing on this day um November 26 2021 which is a day we're going to talk about in more detail uh we're cut
ting our Christmas tree down okay and that ultimately we have XX what date is this November 27th 2021 okay so this would have been uh Saturday yes and what's going on in this picture uh we got our Christmas decorations and everything out okay then we have um why why what day is this from November 26 2021 okay and what's happening in this picture um my son and my husband are laughing at me cuz I driv around the whole Tree Farm to pick the tree so they were finally happy it was over okay so that's
y why right right okay um I'm going to I'm going to close this for just a minute and um and just make sure that exhibits be through why why we admitted they're admitted yes okay and then the defense is only going to have one other exhibit but we'll get to that one okay okay so Mrs Crumbley I want to go back and talk to you we were we went through a lot of Facebook pages obviously or pictures um on Thanksgiving who was at your house it was my aunt and uncle my cousin and her husband and what did
you guys do if anything that night well they were they were there probably till about 7 or 8:00 so we played Left Right Center um just did normal family stuff did did everything did anything seem off or strange with your son no was he spending time with family members or was he in his room what was he doing he was back and forth he would come out and play games with us or when it got to adult talk he would go in his room and play his video games now we definitely saw a lot of his friend in the
photographs were there other times where he would not have his friend with him yeah there were times okay um were there was he happy was he okay without his friend was he how was he yeah I mean most of the times it was just a three of us um it was usually out of state travel okay um let's see here okay so on the day after Thanksgiving do you what did you do that day um I went shopping I go shopping every every year day after Thanksgiving Black Friday shoping Shing I wake up at 4:00 and I go shop
ping okay so where did you go that day if you remember um I usually go to Meyer and then from there I'll head up to Marshalls and leir um and then sometimes I will hit the um not Home Depot the other Home Improvement store Menards that would hit Menards and on that date um when you went it was the 26th correct correct um do you know when you left your house did you know what James and uh Ethan your son were going to be doing that day uh no they were sleeping when I left okay when you got home we
re they home or were they at where were they they weren't home did they ever come home yeah I um I texted my husband asked where you're at and um I believe he called me and told me that him and Ethan were at the Acme um um firearm store looking at guns okay and then they came home from there okay did they purchase the gun that day they did okay the prosecution brought in exhibits showing the receipts all that you weren't with them when they bought the gun correct no it was not okay you did post
on Facebook a photo of the gun we saw the the post correct correct and in the post that's been admitted already you described it as your son's uh Christmas gift um can you explain who wanted the gun how what what what was what does it mean um they had run to the 9mm at the shooting range before so they knew it was the type of or the size gun I guess what it is that um they wanted to get and my son and my husband did a lot of texting back and forth my son did a lot of research on it and they're c
omparing different ones that they wanted to buy um that went that went on for a couple months um my husband just kind of kept blowing it off like not you know not right now not right now and then I guess when I was was out shopping and they said let's go try on Black Friday see if we can get one on sale or if there's any deals going on okay so they ultimately did get one right um now did you object did you say I don't want that gun in the house anything like that no I was more angry that they cu
t into our Christmas tree time usually cut my Christmas tree down right after I get back from shopping but I had to wait for them so I was I was irritated at that when they came home did they show you the the gun yes okay and what did you guys do um they just showed me it was on the kitchen counter and then um my husband put it up and we went to the Christmas tree farm what do you mean by put it up he put it back in the case with the cable lock and back in the bedroom okay let's talk about Just
Guns overall um this jury needs to understand some some details okay if I ask a question you don't know what I'm talking about let me know cuz are guns your thing not really no okay but do you have awareness about guns within your home I do okay who is responsible for storing the gun my husband is okay explain why you say he's responsible for that role um I just didn't feel comfortable being in charge of that it was more his thing so I let him handle that I didn't feel comfortable putting the lo
ck thing on it um I just I just rather just rather not let him do it and I think in one of the messages that was with Brian you called it a string lack yeah okay do you understand now it's a cable lack I do okay so were there ever any times where you would take the cable lock off or put it on no now the there were prior to buying that gun did you did James own any other guns he did how many two and by two the jury has seen the uh darer and the keltech were those the other two correct okay so tho
se are the other two guns how were those stores uh they were stored in a safe okay and was that different than the 9 mm it was okay explain to the jury the difference um we we had a gun safe so when they bought the two other guns they transported the two other guns into the gun safe um and then everything else well I don't know the everything went like the cable lock and the other case went somewhere um the 9mm was in a case but it was locked in the it was in the case locked with a cable lock ok
ay and how the cable lock that was on the 9mm what did you have to use to get the cable Lo opened key okay did you keep did you have possession of the key no okay where was the key it was I collected German beerstein so it was one of the beer steins where are those located uh throughout the house we have them on top of the there's a a ledge over the refrigerator in our kitchen um so they go from wall to wall then we had corner shelves in our house that had them um we had a lot okay did did you k
now which particular beerstein the cable Lo key was in no do you know if your son knew which beerstein it was in I no what about ammunition for the 9mm was there any bought on the 26th when the weapon was purchased no okay so that day um we saw obviously your Facebook post um you describe it as your son's gift did he have free access to that gun no it it was for him to use at the shooting range only was he allowed to take it out not without my husband around did he know where it was kept my husb
and HIIT it usually in our bedroom in different spots okay what was the intention of hiding it that's just what you're supposed to do okay and when it was hidden did was it lacked in any way it had the the cable lock on it okay and you again testified about the key being in a beerin correct would the beerin be right by the cable AC no okay so where would the beer Stang be it would probably be in one of the ones in the kitchen okay so the keys out there um and then you've got the did you know whe
re the gun was hidden in your room on um November 26th when you put it away no okay on November 27th um we saw the whole video of you going to the shooting range with Ethan correct with your son correct correct okay on that day we see in the video that you carry the gun case into the gun range right correct okay how did the gun get into the get to the gun range um it well my husband had got it ready for me and put it in the back of my car and I what do that mean got it ready for you took the cab
le lock off put um I guess he put the magazine things in the case and put it in the back of my car and I drove um with my son to the shooting range with the gun in the back of my car that's how I got there okay did you um did you see him or watch him take the cable lock off that day no why not I think I was just doing something else I didn't pay attention okay so when you got to the gun range we saw in the video you carry it in carry to the counter is that accurate yeah okay the jury's seen all
this by bullets and then you guys go shooting correct correct okay we obviously see you and your son that shows the whole experience while you're there correct okay um so after while you're there um how interested were you in in shooting that weapon um I I sh sh it a couple times I don't know shooting is kind of boring I'm more like skate shooting or actually something's going on so I shot it a couple times and he did the rest okay and um did you end up posting something about it being a mother
Sunday I did how did you feel about that day I felt I mean it was it was a fun day he asked me if I wanted to go to the shooting range with him and he's never asked me just me to go before my husband was um doing door Dash and I felt good about it how many times had you been to the shooting range before before that day once and when you went the one other time uh who else was present uh my husband so this was the first day you're the only adult going correct okay so we see obviously in the video
you carry the gun in the case out it didn't have the cable lock in at that point no okay so what did you do from there um is when we're leaving yeah um I put the gun in the back of my vehicle and drove where explain where in the back of your vehicle so I in the back of the SUV it has a little uh thing that opens up to where the spare tire is I put under there okay and then where did you go uh I went home and did you take the gun in the house no I took the bullets in the house and hit them and m
y husband uh took the gun in the house when he got home from work okay so was there a period of time that the gun was not in the home but in your car yeah probably for a couple hours okay why is that I just I just don't feel comfortable with it I I don't that's his thing okay so on that Saturday um it was left in the vehicle and your vehicle was lacked correct do you know if the gun was brought into the house and put away yes okay how do you know that um my husband told me okay yep did you did y
ou um watch him do anything in terms of putting it away or if you were if you didn't just let me know no I didn't okay the next day is Sunday correct correct and on that day um was there any do you recall any issues with the weapon any issues with the gun no okay um now when the next day is Monday is that right correct okay what did you do on Monday I went to work okay and on Monday we heard the voicemail you got is that is that accurate yes describe for the jury overall what happened or what yo
u were deing deal with that day um I received a voicemail on my phone while I was at work it was Pam fine um the school one of the school counselors uh call let me know that my son was looking at bullets in class um she let us know let me know that um they had a meeting with my son and that he said what he was doing was wrong admitted responsibility um they gave him an example about teachers they they they brew beer at home should be looking at it up in school and it was very it was It was kind
of upbeat and then she ended up with um you know he understood he went back to class just want to let you know if you have any questions please give us a call have a good holiday okay and on that date did you call Miss fine back no I did not what was your reaction to getting that message um I mean it was pretty pretty black and white I mean he said what happened they seemed like they solved the problem and I didn't have any questions okay so on that date um did you end up saying anything to Jame
s about it I believe I did did you say anything to your son about it I did what did you and I think we said text messages you said don't get next time don't get caught yeah I said seriously looking at um bullets in school and then he went through a long couple of texts about teachers looking at his stuff and he was worried about he was going to get in trouble and then I said um next time don't get caught what did you mean by that um so there's a an ongoing thing in our house I would my someone a
lways asked me the trouble I get in high school so I a little bit of trouble maker because I always got caught like all my friends could be doing the same thing and I'd be the one to get caught so I was kind of referencing to that okay so you said that um and did you feel you had to discipline him or do anything beyond talk to him about it no we talked I listen to the voicemail and that was that okay now on um I'm going to go back for a couple minutes to talk to you about some exhibits the prose
cution introduced from earlier in the year okay so I'm gonna start with um what's been admitted as exhibits 155 through 160 okay I'm going to pop them up on the screen and we're going to just talk about each one briefly so I'm going to go to 155 okay plug my I'm sorry it's not to plug it in okay so I'm going to start with 155 okay this was already admitted so we're not going to belver this okay she doesn't have a picture oh I'm sorry well it's not necessar this one come here okay there it is oka
y so we've already talked about this with other Witnesses so I'm going to go a little bit faster if you need me to slow down let me know okay this is um Miss deker's email with her and Sean Hopkins she's telling him um when you get a chance can you call uh your son down to the down and see how he's doing he's failing my class tries to sleep all the time in class Sean responds I'll catch him by the end of the day thanks just a little worried and um and that's that you heard testimony about that c
orrect correct were you ever aware there was a time where your son was F failing a class and trying to sleep all all in capital letters all the time in class I can't remember what class director was um so I would probably be aware if he was failing that class from power school but I was not aware that he was sleeping all the time so did anyone from the school let you know in May of 2021 hey he's sleeping in class and failing no okay that was exhibit 155 um and would that show up on power schools
that the emails between them no okay exhibit 166 this is from September 8th 2021 um it starts off with an email from Miss McConnell to Sean Hopkins says can you please touch base with Ethan Crumbley in his autobiography poem he said he feels terrible and that his family is a mistake unusual response is for sure he writes back thanks for the heads up I'm in senior meetings throughout the day I'll try to catch up with him were you aware this was ever a discussion or an issue no were you aware tha
t Mr Hopkins ever talked to or tried to talk to your son no did anyone ever call you to make you aware of any of this no if you heard this um how would you how would you react or what would your reaction be um I'd be definitely concerned why he feels like his family's mistake and he feels terrible so that would be that would be a concern to me okay so you this is something you were unaware of correct and in fact when did you find out these emails existed um we started getting Discovery okay so i
n this case correct all right so I want to go to one uh 157 this is on November 10th of 2021 um this is uh Miss mcanal sends Sean a message Ethan Crumbley is having a rough time right now we may need to speak with you um Sean writes back I'm sorry I was in a meeting through the end of the day I'll catch up with him um were you ever made aware that there was some issue on November 10th where your son was having a rough time no did anyone from the school ever let you know no did you ever see anyth
ing like this um prior to us getting materials in this case no if you heard um your son was having a rough time what would you do to follow up I would talk to my son find out what's going on okay and I am going to minimize these for one second I want to go back to um some other dates that were discussed and Exhibits were admitted and I'm going to go back to March 20th I'm sorry let's start we go in order so March 16th of 2021 um the prosecution has admitted exhibits 8586 85 through 94 and um let
's see here 85 shows you guys are making plans and you say I'm going to get drunk and ride my horse can you explain to the jury what you meant by that and I'll get it up on the screen um I was going to have some drinks and ride my horse it was St Patrick's Day um I'm sorry that's on this that's on the 17th right okay the 16th though um oh I'm sorry you're right okay so explain that again so let me get it up on the screen cuz I'm messing up okay 85 okay so 85 um I'm sorry you're right so on page
85 432 is the page number you write I'm going to get drunk and ride my horse what was your plan that night um I was going to have a couple drinks and go go for a trail riding my horse okay did you do that that night uh yes and on um people's proposed exhibit uh 86 or their admitted exhibit this was the text thread between you and your son um let's see here this is the text where the prosecution uh admitted to show that your son texted you okay the house is now haunted what time was that text at
um it says 603 okay I don't know it says minus 4 I don't know what that means okay and then um the next text some weird just happens and now I'm scared next one I got some videos and a picture of the demon is throwing ballls I'm not joking it up the kitchen I'm just going to be an outsider for a while can you at least text back okay do you recall this date on March 17th 2021 it didn't stick out to me until this whole no I don't I don't recall it exactly I just remember it ever since got discover
y on this case Okay so on um March 17 um there was a point um when you did you ever see these texts I probably didn't not that time do you recall seeing these texts at any point prior to this case I'm sure I did but they didn't they weren't no I don't I mean I'm sure I saw them but they just didn't stick out to me until this case why didn't they stick out to you because it wasn't it wasn't anything that was anything serious it was um Ethan just messing around you got to explain to the jury how d
id Ethan mess around um so he's been convinced our house has been haunted since 2015 it was built in 1920 um around that time frame him and his friend would go down to the basement and play Ouija board so they thought we had a house ghost um so it was around that time when he would mess with us that things were going on in the house um sour was flying across the room um doors were slamming he actually took a video of the door and showed me when I got home and you can clearly see where he's stand
ing back with his phone looking at the door that's open you can see him walk up the door and you can kind of see him slam it of him trying to say see our house is haunted so it was that kind of stuff that he he did okay and did that continue on into 2021 when you'd get messages like this um only a couple of times and I think it just kind he just got over it like it wasn't he got bored with messing around with the with the ghost did you mess around with him yes okay what did you do to him um when
they were downstairs in the basement playing Ouija board one night I went and flipped the circuit breaker off in the house and he thought it was the ghost they conjured up on the Ouija board did James ever mess around with you or with Ethan um yeah a little bit give us an example of what he did um he said a lamp fell off a ledge in the basement and so he named the ghost Victoria so he was convinced there was another house house ghost so just kind of like an ongoing like our house ghost we calle
d it my son named it Boris Johnson my husband named it Victoria it was just kind of it was just a little phase was there ever a time where James pretended he got electrocuted yes what did he do um we were remodeling our living room and he was taking the old ceiling fan down having to figure out what wires go where to the new ceiling fan and as he was reaching up he pretended to get electrocuted and he fell on the ground and was shaking and I ran up and I kicked him I don't know why I kicked him
but I did and then he stopped I realized he was joking and my son had the phone recording the whole time so this kind of stuff between you your son and your husband was like typical joking around kind of stuff it was okay so did you when you look back at these texts now and you see that there's a demon throwing balls and things like that now looking back do you think oh my gosh he had mental issues no what do you think was going on what I said that it was just him messing around it only he he on
ly did it when we weren't at home and it was for a short period of time and then he got bored okay so on that date the prosecution admitted all kinds of stuff to show you with your horse and James was with your horse correct correct and you guys were with your horse correct how long would you have been out there what was a typical trip to the barn um usually about 3 hours it takes about a half hour to get the horses tacked up and ready um we usually rod for about an hour and then anywhere from a
half hour to 45 minutes to cool them down and um with respect to the horses did you and James go out there did you go every day no how did that work who went how did you guys pick um whoever felt like going or had the most availability sometimes I'd work late you know past six o'clock um at night I couldn't go um there's nights that my son had to go to bowling um that had take them which just whatever happened that day we just say I'm going or you're going or it just was a day byday thing okay
so I'm going to skip ahead this has been admitted as exhibit 84 this goes to March 8th and 9th okay do you remember talking about those dates I think so yeah okay now on those dates the prosecution admitted exhibit 84 which is up on the screen these are texts between um James and you and it looks like you're saying you're going to have to skip the barn tonight do you recall that oh yes okay and then um you ask is Ethan going to bowling correct um James says igk what does that mean I don't know a
ll right and you ask him about that okay and I want you to describe what are you doing in these text messages up on the screen here these four in a row can you go back to the green one yeah okay um here I'm sorry no it's fine I got to know I was just texting him ask him if he was home from school yet okay and if he had his phone on him so you're texting I I think looking at this we must have gotten into an argument about his grades and took his phone away the night before which is I was asking i
f you had his phone on him is it common for you to text repeatedly about someone are you home where are you yes okay so in your messages is that is it fair to say you're we're going to see that a lot from you yes okay um your husband wrote back he does not get home till 3:16 did you know what time Ethan got home every day I knew it was after 3:00 like shortly after I wasn't sure to the minute okay well then you wrote I want I told you to pick him up because he's upset and I don't want him to do
anything stupid godamn it what did you mean by that um I don't know just if he I wanted him if he walked home I was worried if like he was upset he would just walk to Little Caesars or Frosty Boy and not let us know and then I'd worry or he' take the he take the route through there's like um some kind of woodsy area to get the trail to our house and there's some homeless people that live back in there it was just more or less I was just worried about him just not wanting to come home because we
got we got an argument night before so when you say I I don't want him to do anything stupid were you worried he'd hurt himself or anything like that no and your James responds dude chill he is fine and I am trying to work your next question does he have his phone is that right correct okay um and then he says he won't answer while he's walking the exhibit speaks for itself and then you start up with I'm seriously freaking out is he home yet yet and then it looks like a blank message why are you
freaking out so much because he didn't tell me he was home so and I think he must I this thing with work I couldn't get a hold of him so I was like why can't I get a hold of you why can't get a hold of anybody okay did this concern you um ultimately that something happened that day or did this get resolved I think he just got home and that was it okay now the next day um which would have been the nth you and James we can agree went to the barn together that day correct correct they the prosecut
ion provided a picture GPS um exhibits uh phone data exhibits correct correct all right on that day we agree you guys are at the barn together correct okay I'm going to go to the prosecutor's exhibit 82 that was uh admitted okay and you text you sent him a message to Ethan that says where are you or Ethan sends you a message that says I'm sorry you send a message to Ethan saying where are you at 317 and 32 seconds UTC minus 5 correct correct all right so then Ethan sends you all these texts can
you get home now I think that someone's in the house someone walked into the bathroom and flush the toilet left the light on I thought it was you but I came out no one was home there is no one in the house though dude my door just slammed maybe it's just my paranoia but when are you going to get home okay what what was going on that day um so if you go back to go back to the beginning of the thread okay is it's the beginning so you can see um the time on there that was the time i' be driving hom
e from the barn and when I got home he was ask me why I didn't answer the text and he said the weird stuff was going on in the house again and that was that okay when you walked in do you recall discussing these messages with him um it was mainly I've been trying to text you why don't you answer I told he said that or you said that he said that and and I told him I was driving home I wasn't looking at my phone so what's why weren't you looking at your phone or what's going on with your did you h
ave a signal do you not have a signal what's happening I I could have had a signal I don't know I probably just had my phone in the front seat of the passenger side and didn't look at it okay um when you're out at the barn do you get every text that people send you no what's your signal like out there um I have Metro PCS so it's not as good as somebody had AT&T and Verizon but there's very limited spots um at any Barn I've been at where there's any type of signal usually you have to find the one
the one spot you'll see everybody standing at talking on the phone but it's not it's not all over the barn what about on the roads to the barn um so that Barn we were at it was between Oxford and um uh Groveland area so all those roads once I passed the market it's all it's there's no signal unless I until I got a fire station then I have a signal and then once I pass the fire station I would have a signal then I hit a grocery store i' have a signal once it got past the grocery store all the wa
y to the barn I had no signal looking back on these tucks now from March 9th okay seeing him say there's someone in the house I think someone walked in the bathroom and flushed the toilet left the light on do you think he was having mental issues that day no how what do you think what what is your conclusion about these messages at this time he was just messing with us okay is this the kind of messing you previously talked about yes all right I want to go to March 20th um this is people's exhibi
ts uh 96 through 100 um they established on the state your at the barn this is you yes yes okay and um another picture of you yep and we've got data showing that you are out there correct and there's a text message exchange that was admitted as people's 96 I'm going to put that up on the screen for you okay okay so in peoples 96 this is between you and your son correct correct um he says can you at least text back you're asking where's your dad text me when you're done done yet and he starts up
with I just I finished picking up the room I cleaned until the clothes started flying off the shelf this stuff only happens when I'm home alone I picked the clothes back up though that's at um it looks like two uh 34 and we may be off by an hour or so cuz it's that UTC this one's minus 4 um your next text is jumping in shower text your dad if I don't respond and your text no matter what the time zone is is 6 hours later do you recall getting these text messages it's two days and 6 hours later oh
I'm sorry you're right two days and six hours so do you recall though getting these couple on the 20th about I finished picking up the room I cleaned until clothes started falling off the shelf do you recall that only we got discovery okay now looking back on these days are you thinking oh my god there were he thought things were happening that were crazy no did you think any do you think anything of it now no what do you think is happening in those in those messages I just think he was messing
with us okay so those are three times where um you guys are at the ranch and he's messing with you is that a fair statement yes um um and at that time um that was months and months before November that's it was in March is that correct uh yeah okay so beyond March um did was there other times where he was saying these goofy texts and messing around no I don't think so okay so there's there's two more um dates I need to ask you about I'm going to go to April 4th um which was a Sunday and then th
at is going to be um exhibit that was admitted 101 okay so exhibit 101 are text messages and these are between who are these between those were uh between my son and his friend okay now prior to this case did you ever see any of these messages I did not were you aware any of them existed I was not okay so this is from April April 4th and your son's saying he's the one te sending messages that say I hear people talking to me and someone in the distance I actually asked my dad to take me to the do
ctor yesterday but he gave me some pills and told me to suck it up like it's at the point I'm asking to go to the doctor was there ever a time where he asked to go to the doctor around this time I don't think so now then he says my mom laughed when I told her was there ever a time where he's asking for help and you're laughing no he writes to his friend and this is just later that night but I'm having bad insomnia and paranoia and I need help I was thinking of calling 911 so I could go to the ho
spital but then my parents would be really pissed okay so this is all one long conversation is that right correct he says I'm going to ask my parents to go to the doctors tomorrow or Tuesday again but this time I'm going to tell them about the voices this text message or instant message thread did you ever were you even aware of this no do you remember any time where he came and talked to you and said anything about hearing voices no do you recall there ever being a time where he asked you for g
o to go to a doctor or to get help and you said no no or laughed at him no so when you see these texts with his friend um do you have any idea and if you don't that's fine do you have any idea what he's doing with his friend I I don't have any idea okay do you know if him and his friend messed around with each other like you and your husband do with him Jud I'm sorry think she'd have to have personal knowledge um you were when you were testifying earlier you mentioned that your son and his frien
d would play with in a Ouija board is that right right is when did that happen in relation to um 2021 um I know he got the Ouija board for Christmas of 2020 um so for a few months after that they were really into playing it and then they got bored with it and it's probably sitting on our Shelf getting dust okay um on April 29th I'm going to turn your attention to that day um do you recall texting his friend's mother and I'm going to put up exhibit 104 on the screen okay do these texts look famil
iar to you they do okay who are these between these are between U me and his friend's ma okay and you say you start off with Ethan is I'm sorry my son is in bullying tonight I just want to let you know not sure if he needs a partner why are you texting that um I don't know why he wasn't bowling tonight top of my head um but I but they had Partners on certain nights of the week and so him and his friend were always Partners I was letting her know that he wasn't going to be there okay and this is
on one date April 29th did you talk to her on other dates or is this like the only time you talked to her we we've talked back and forth quite a bit okay now on this date you say he's been acting kind of depressed I don't know what's going on I'm not sure if there's something bothering him at school but he doesn't really feel good I can't get anything out of him um she me friend's mom mentions he stayed home from school today too the only time they're happy is when they're together um talking ab
out grades you mentioned this is all new to me I'm not used to my son being moody he's usually pretty happy and we'll talk about anything I do know he's been stressed about school and his grades um we called the school but she wasn't in Social do it tomorrow I think his grades have a lot to do with it I just got to a point where he's got so far behind and we were out of town he's having difficulties making it up where were you guys out of town um in Florida my my mother-in-law had passed away so
we were gone for a couple weeks in the middle of April taking care of funeral arrangements and everything and at this time when you describe your son as being moody or depressed did you think it was anything that warranted getting medical attention no he was just being quieter he's a quiet kid he was just being quieter than normal um and I'd ask him if I was okay you'd say fine but I just tell he was a little sad and I thought maybe um him and his I didn't seen his friend in a in a couple weeks
I don't know if maybe they got into a fight and they weren't talking um so I was asking her if there was anything going on with his his friend which might have caused my son to be quieted normal but I think he was just really stressed out because those two weeks that we were in Florida he got pretty far behind on his grades okay so then it goes on and you end up saying yeah me too I'm glad they're getting along and it wasn't an issue with those two as to why he was being depressed the online sc
hool is horrible I've given up two I told him just to do his best don't worry about it next year's a new year and then maybe if his friend is feeling better he wants to come over to work and then you're talking talking talking about shooting up a gun range in the backyard correct yeah Target okay so did this issue of him feeling depressed or acting moody this one this one period of time did that go on or did that discontinue it discontinued I mean it was like it was a little phase um he seemed t
o be fine him his friends started coming over more I think it was more or less his friend wasn't coming over as much and he just s quieter than normal and you guys were out of you had just been out of town right yeah and he just lost his grandmother so that was that was sad too okay all right and then there was one other conversation that you had with um with his friend's mother that the prosecution introduced as exhibit 105 I'm going to put that up okay so this is actually from uh let's see her
e starts off on [Music] um I'm going to go to Halloween so 10:31 of 21 you say to her James filled me in on his friend last night I'm so sorry you guys are having to make such a hard decision please let me know if you need anything what was that about um we had found out the day before than or Halloween um that his son there my son's my son's friend went to Wisconsin to an OCD treatment school um we didn't we didn't know we had Halloween plans um and we were texting with his parents his friend's
parents about is his friends still coming over the car pumpkins in Halloween cuz they do that every year and then um they go out and trick or treat and we didn't hear from them and all a sudden we got a my my husband found out through his friend's dad that they drove to Wisconsin and he's a OCD treatment center for at least 90 days so it hit us really hard because we didn't really expect it coming um he didn't expect it coming it was just it was it was hard did you do anything to different as a
parent when his friend was um taken away essentially to the hospital or the other school I don't understand um did you do anything um different as a parent in terms of spending time with your son I mean we did as much as we could um okay tell us about that tell us about that month I think we had did more family game nights than normal um he was working a lot I check in with them you know make sure he's he's doing okay that's when I start asking him um do you have friends at school that you can
you can hang out with and if so you're more than welcome to invite him over um okay I just more I was more in point of the fact that he was he was sad okay and even though he was sad did you feel like there was anything where he needed help or needed mental health treatment no was there was his loss of his friend being in his life um anything that made you think he needed counseling or a therapist not to that extent no I'm going to unplug this so that we can go back through some question go to q
uestions that don't involve exhibits okay okay um so we were we were talking earlier about the mother son gun range day right correct you've already told the jury how the gun was put in the car and taken out okay now did you ever tell Brian MOS about the Mother Sun day at the range I'm sure I me it yeah did you ever tell Brian that the gun was in your vehicle yes okay when did you tell Brian that the gun was in your vehicle on the day I went to the shooting range did you tell Brian you put the g
un in your car the day the shooting happened no so when he testified to that was that accurate No I think it was confused okay did you specifically tell him about the gun being put in your car that other time yes aside from that time that you drove to the range was the gun ever in your car no um were you aware Brian had memory issues uh no I was not Brian testified that he never met Ethan later in his testimony he said he did did he ever meet Ethan yeah a couple of times at the barn okay and we
went um he came to our house he helped deliver a big TV that we got and and my son was there did you ever tell Brian anything about your son saying things or making you upset in any way like that that no did you ever tell Brian anything about he had mental health issues that you were worried about no so when we read your messages which the prosecution admitted the very the 77 pages okay it's fair to say the jury can read what you guys talked about and you reflect on all the you you talk about th
e past with Ethan correct correct okay so the jury can read those we don't need to go through those you agree I agree okay um so we tal we got to Monday we got Monday is um two days after you guys go for the mother Sunday at the shooting range Monday Miss fine leaves you the voicemail we talked about that already talked about you talking to your son about it right okay I want to go to Tuesday uh the 30th okay okay do you remember Tuesday the 30th I do and that day we saw exhibit of you going int
o work that happened yes and we heard lots of testimony already about you getting a call from Sean Hopkins correct he left me a voicemail and I called him back okay when you got the when you called back um Mr Hopkins testified that um he sent you something what did he send you um he sent me a copy of a math worksheet that had the scribbled out drawings on it okay and I want to ask you the night before that scribbles out drawing um thing came to you um did you have any interactions with your son
yes we did what were those about um I saw on power school that he had a e in Geometry so we got an argument again about his grades um we took his phone away and told him that he couldn't go to the shooting range until his gr his grades are brought back up okay so so you guys had this argument the night before I we saw lots of messages where you thought everything was fine that Tuesday morning is that how you felt yeah okay so when you got that when you got that math paper texted to you do you re
call saying anything to Ethan on the phone on speaker yeah I asked him why he did why why he did that okay what were you thinking at that point um I was actually I was actually kind of angry because I thought he was he did that and like the science of us yelling him about missing assignments and here he is drawing pictures on an empty assignment page in Geometry so you felt like it was specifically him sending you a message about the night before yeah um is it fair to say you took it personally
yeah I did okay so what did you do um I had asked um Mr Hopkins to if he had the original and then he sent it to my email which then I opened up and looked at it and it's like okay what did you think when you saw that I was a little concerned um I was I was pretty concerned he had asked um for a parent to come to the school to meet with them and at this time I tried calling my husband to see if he could go cuz he was out in the area uh working and I couldn't get a hold of him so I decided to go
to school on the way to the school um he finally called me back and he met me at at the school so we went together okay and when you went into the school what did you think was happening um I thought he wasn't get in trouble for what he drew on his assignment I thought I was going to get like suspended um I was expecting like a disciplinary meeting okay how did you feel about what you saw in that paper um I felt con I felt concerned after seeing that okay and so we saw um that you sent pictures
of the math papers to Kira to to an Andy uh to Brian you it's fair to say you sent them around to people I did okay and to all those people we've already seen all the exhibits um you express that concern correct okay so what happens when you get to the school with you and James arve separately I think the detective test testified that he was wrong at first thinking he went together but you guys were separate got there at the same time correct went in what what was it like walking into the meetin
g with Mr Hopkins and Mr EJ who was there um so when we first got there Mr Hopkins met us out um in front of the where the administration is and walked us back to uh his counseling office uh when we walked in it was just him and then my son was sitting in a chair in front of his desk um working on something on his laptop so when he walked in he kind of showed us where to sit and then um we shook hands introduced himself and started the meeting did did you try to hug Ethan or do anything like tha
t I didn't okay and when um how did that meeting go um it it was pretty it was pretty nonchalant it was pretty brief um he started to tell he he basically filled me in and what my son and him were talking about for the last hour and a half um he said that my son told him that he was feeling sad over the death of a dog that we had um my mother-in-law lost his friend um so we talked we talked a little bit about that we we confirmed it um we just said we agreed it was hard on him um he told us that
he didn't feel um my son was a risk and actually gave him the option um if he wanted to stay at school or go home my son wanted to stay at school so we all discussed we all discussed that um did you feel like you were taking the position of I am leaving him at school whether he can be here or not no absolutely not okay um um were you surprised or were you not surprised did you have any feelings about whether or not he could stay at school um I didn't really I I thought the advice that they were
giving us was the a good advice we we talked about him being sad and then um he said being around peers usually helps so we outg graded that um my son gets very stressed out when he does virtual school so we agree that it might stress him out more to do his school remotely the rest of the day um but there is never a time where I would refuse to take him home I could easily if he wanted to go take him with me I had no issues with that okay so ultimately um did you take the paper a paper from the
school the counseling papers yeah okay there is a like a stack um like maybe 10 sheets with multiple counselors listed on them okay and um were you planning to make do anything with that sheet um yeah actually we were going to start I gave it to my husband out in the parking lot and I told I had phone calls at work the rest of the day so I told him to start making calls um once he got done doing his door Dash okay now the prosecution introduced and admitted um an exhibit which was a search off
of Yahoo about clinical depression um treatments do you recall ever Google well I'm saying Googling but do you Rec recall ever searching that that topic I don't and I don't usually use Yahoo as a search engine I always use Google so I don't know I don't I don't recall it no okay do you recall how it how or if you ever saw anything um on on yahooo about clinical depression I don't remember specifically seeing anything um I might have looked at something when my husband was going through a really
hard time after his mother passed away he was um he he was drinking a little bit more than usual and you just tell he was just he wasn't right so I might have looked at something at that time see that he was depressed but not I I don't know where Yahoo came from you don't know how the Yahoo came to me okay when you're on Facebook and Instagram and all those things do you ever hit the clickbait stuff um it sometimes on accident sometimes I do on purpose okay so that search on Yahoo you don't reme
mber ever putting that in the search bar no okay um but you are saying it's possible you looked at it is that it's possible okay all right um so let's go back so you're at the meeting how did the meeting end um so we all decided that Ethan was my son was going to go back to his class so he wrote a pass to go back to class um after he left we all four of us were in the meeting and we kind he they asked if we had any questions and we did not and then I said I'm going to go go back to work and we l
eft and I went to work and my husband did door Dash and did you mean to be abrupt about ending the meeting I didn't think I was abrupt did you think you ended the meeting I think it just automatically ended when they asked if we had any questions and I said no okay um so when there was testimony about that um I'm sorry I strike that let ask I don't want to interrupt you I'm looking for a natural break we can do it now well just during J break yeah yeah that's fine just want to be considera no we
can go anytime that's fine okay I don't I don't want to interrupt you you're not you're fine so can take all right for the JY is okay I gra J gra these from you can be seated I don't usually like to interrupt this direct but I know you have and they've been at since 12:30 so so we're going to off 10 the break till at 5 after 3 well judge based upon the testimony I need to pull some exhibits so it'll be longer than 10 minutes I'd like to get right into cross after so I mean we'll do that right n
ow but it'll be longer than 10 minutes okay if that's okay we just we're going to need some time I think okay well I I you you have quite a bit of direct I think have quite a bit some I don't I don't know how to we I've got through three qus of it so I okay I'd say I have a quarter of it left and a lot of it it's probably going to go pretty fast cuzz the exhibits speak from themselves and they've already admitted videos of all of it so all right um if you take them down and um can you guys let m
e know then I I don't like to let them sit very long if you let me know you're not talking about half an hour or an hour right uh not an hour no but there's uh we're trying to avoid having standing up and saying we need a a time and having to take another break but get we'll go as fast as we can we just there's a lot of things you testified about I think that Mr ke well I just you're I WR fast with their exhibit I kept going I didn't take breaks in between it's good I'm more concerned about the
jury sitting than anything okay sure thank you all right Jennifer they're going to take you down they're going to take you down and then they're going to bring you back up okay well taking her stand uh taking the stand rather in her own defense you were just watching Jennifer Crumbley the mom of the Michigan high school shooter Ethan Crumbley uh up in the stand there as she faces four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the shooting that killed four students her husband will ha
ve his own trial coming up soon as well sometimes emotional crumbly there recounting the days and months preceding that shooting what exactly she knew and didn't know about her son and when asked who was in charge of that gun in their house that gun that was used in that school shooting she simp said my husband for more let's bring in our legal contributor and trial attorney Brian buckmire along with our Phil Lipoff who of course has been following this uh since the very beginning boy so much to
talk about gentlemen from the emails to the text messages to the red flags so many specifics about uh her life her relationship with her son and what led up to the day that shooting uh took place and I think Phil one thing that really stood out to me was the fact that um the signs were there I mean he was talking about paranoia and voices in his head and calling 911 for help I mean just as a parent I'm sitting here and we've talked about this thinking how can you not be tuned in when it's even
there on devices and conversation I mean it's such a lesson to parents about you know how involved we should be absolutely and I know Brian's a dad too and I'm a parent of two kids of through that that phase with them and sure you're thinking about that as you're listening to her testify but you see what she and her attorney did there especially when it comes to what you're talking about K about the demons and things flying off of shelves and him being very uncomfortable at home alone she claims
that started when he was younger and he believed you know he was into this Ouija board and he believed that the house was haunted and it became a big joke of theirs over the years that's how she explained that away some might call that a a big red flag she says it was a family joke to the point where you know she hit the circuit breaker once to scare him um so you know that's going to be up to the jury to to sort out but certainly there were a lot of other red flags that they they discussed lea
ding up to this testimony and and Brian it's it's generally considered a high-risk strategy right in most criminal trials for the defendant to take the witness stand in this case in her own defense she opens herself to cross-examination and and she's the accused she doesn't have to prove anything so what do you make of the choice that that the defense has made to put her on the witness stand and and expose what you know may be bad parenting but may not Meet The Elements the prosecution must prov
e to show that the jury that she committed involuntary manslaughter well Terry we Phil and I are sitting here listening to the opening statements and as well as the the direct examination and I told Phil he's like hey there's some good points he's like wait for the the cross- examination because as I said it's very easy to direct someone using questions that they know the answers to already and make them look great what I seen a lot of this direct examination is a dual-edged sword the beginning
I think like the first 45 minutes was just this prop up of she's a great mom look at all these photos uh Phil I mean my son's only a year and a half so Phil's got the teenage kids and understands hey a certain age they don't want to take pictures with you and that made a lot of sense but I think ultimately he's going to come back and cross-examination and say if you were this good of a parent how did you miss all of this I think she's going to kind of giving herself a lot of rope here but also t
hat rope could come back and Har her in a major a come cross examination Dylan briyan stay right there more ABC News live right [Music] now Michigan high school shooter testifying in her own trial the latest from Court as she now faces four counts of immun Vans Slaughter after giving her son access to that murder weapon and I did not handle this right that's what defense secretary Lloyd Austin said as he took questions for the first time since being hospitalized for prostate cancer and not telli
ng the president of the United States about it what he told reporters today as the US muls a military response now to that deadly attack on American troops in Jordan good afternoon everyone I'm Kira Phillips and I'm Terry Moran and our top story this hour Jennifer Crumbley has testified in her own case she's on the witness stand right now she's the mother of the Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley who was in Oxford Michigan when he opened fire on classmates Jennifer Crumbley took the stand in
her own defense after being accused of giving her son access to his murder weapon she stands charged with involuntary manslaughter for not uh taking better care of that weapon that her son used to kill his classmates she didn't show a lot of emotion there um but she did talk about getting hives and hot flushes when she got really nervous you can see that right there uh as she's looking at pieces of evidence that she was asked about um and she was asked also specifically who was in charge of tha
t gun that was in their house the one that Ethan Crumbley used to carry out that mass shooting and she said very simply my husband she faces four counts of involuntary manslaughter now in that shooting that killed four students back in 2021 so joining us na news Trevor alt who's been inside the courtroom ABC's Phil lip off he's been following this case from the beginning along with legal contributor and trial attorney Brian buckmire so Trevor you were in court for the testimony of Jennifer uh Cr
umbley how did how did it seem to you and how did the jury react if you can read that uh I think that they're paying wrapped attention so far Terry and this so far has played out the way that we we would expect defense attorneys to lay out this uh examination when you have Jennifer Crumbley facing these very serious charges is that they took their time in building up the history with her son and having all of those photos and the Facebook post she admitted that she posts on Facebook far too much
talking about all the times and the trips uh and the fun that she'd had with her son and with her husband too and just uh in the past 15 minutes or so is when they really kind of got into what I think is going to be the Crux of this whole argument which is when her Story begins to split with the school officials and the reason I think that's going to be so important is because her argument up to this point as the prosecution has presented troubling journal entries and text messages from their s
on uh she was at least she claims unaware of all of that but she is aware of the meeting that happened the morning of the shooting when the school called her and showed her the disturbing drawings that her son done had done on his math worksheet says that they were required to get their son help for mental health within the next 48 hours now the school officials have already testified that they felt it was very strange how the parents did not seem all that interested in getting their son helped
for his mental health that morning and that the meeting ended abruptly after just 12 minutes today we heard from Jennifer crumb's perspective she thought that the meeting was nonchalant and while she felt she didn't end the meeting she said that it ended when those counselors asked do you have any questions for us and that comes after they said you are required to get your son help for his mental health in 48 hours do you have any questions and Jennifer Crumbley admits they said no and then they
left that might not uh Bode too well with the jury but of course as we've heard so much from our legal analyst this is going to come down to the Cross examination it's what kind of we've been waiting for this entire trial it is going to be incredibly intense because there is a mountain of warning signs and red flags leading up to the shooting whether or not Jennifer Crumbley saw all of it is certainly going to be a question that's asked right and that's my next question to you Brian I mean what
do you think about Jennifer crumb's attorney here because you you look at these text exchanges between Ethan and his friend and you immediately think oh my gosh something horrible is about to happen he's admitting to hearing voices in his head and paranoia and anxiety and and um yet yet mom says I had no idea I I never I never saw those things does it look like they're trying to not deny the fact that he was a troubled child but that she just was a dis disengaged parent and this just simply was
n't her fault yeah and K that's ultimately the argument here it's about the foreseeability of what Jennifer Crumbley knew at the time uh prior to the shooting that the defense is really making the argument of distinguishing between what the mother knew a whether it be at the meeting the text messages between the shooter and Jennifer and that anything else that she was not aware of was was something that she could not foresee uh the events playing out on that November 30th or 2021 and so I think
in that regard it is a good argument but some of the responses here I go back and forth with and even here as I'm sitting here with Phil I'm thinking hey I would cross-examine her this way I would cross-examine her that way and I think this chronics examination is going to be robust I I look at the timeline of the photos that lead all the way up up until the actual shooting of this is a good mother this is her doing things that all parents would do with their child but if this what I say in term
s of of a cross-examination potentially if you were this close with your son and you saw all this positive in them when that light start flickering behind his eye and he started becoming depressed and as she said she felt pretty concerned going into that meeting why not say guys my son has a gun he's drawing pictures he's saying please help me the voices won't stop it's not a joke at the house anymore this is something that's I won't say won't use this word but it's it's pouring now into the sch
ool I'm not going to just say I don't have any questions when you say I need to get him mental health help I'm going to say I need to take him now because gun plus this could be harming him or others and I think that's going to be difficult part for the defense uh and and the defense you know is is facing this charge of involuntary man the prosecution has to Pro prove that Jennifer kemble's actions caused the death of the victim uh that they were grossly negligent and that there's no lawful excu
se or justification and and Phil I i' I'd like to go to you on that it sounds like part of her defense is going to be you know what mother looks at her child and thinks she's looking at a murderer it certainly seems that way so far and and that's what we've seen when other parents of School shooters uh have been questioned about it it's been two hours of this direct examination and as Brian and I are sitting here and listening to it about an hour and 20 hour and 30 minutes was spent on family pi
ctures and camping and Christmas and cooking together and first day of eighth grade they showed so many pictures of what any parent would relate to I have all those pictures with my kids too I'm sure the both of you do as well and that's obviously the strategy there trying to make her out to be any mom but as Trevor uh pointed out when her story starts to diverge with the story of the school and she has a different idea of what that meeting was like and the first time you hear her use the word c
oncerned as Brian points out was on the day of the shooting and if she was concerned Why was there no help that day uh for her child why did she not bring him home from school she said Ethan wanted to stay at school and that's where he felt more comfortable but we're all parents here you know maybe as a parent that day you say hey it's time for a break these are the kind of things that the jury is going to be looking ask so Brian what more needs to be proven here besides the fact fact that maybe
she was just a terrible parent I think what we're going to see and we kind of got a glimpse of it from the prosecution saying they need 10 minutes to prepare with their exhibits I think there's going to be a ju position of what she testified on direct and really grilling her on cross-examination to say no these signs were clear in a parents and you ignored them it's one thing to say that signs didn't exist that you didn't see the the signs or that signs were there and you didn't put enough cred
it into them I think that last category is what the prosecution is trying to gear this case towards uh because they to do a distinguishing between you all jurors everyone who's watching this trial are probably great parents or good parents whoever may be but Jennifer crumble is a unique parent in of herself and that her actions were completely egregious uh negligent and she was the cause of this because even though she didn't buy the gun she had the care of the gun she held the gun she stored it
in her car without the proper requirements and believed that her husband because he told her that he took the gun from the car and stored it properly that she was negligent in her actions with the gun her son and the red flags that she ignored all right it's quite a case very interesting and important case and and Brian Trevor and Phil thanks very much for being with us on it well we're going to turn the page now from an apology to taking action defense secretary Lloyd Austin held his first pre
ss conference since his secretive hospitalization earlier uh this year Austin making it very clear the Pentagon is preparing to retaliate for that deadly attack on US troops in Jordan take a listen we will take all necessary actions to defend the United States our interest and our people and we will respond when we choose where we choose and how we choose so the secretary finally taking questions for the first time from reporters there since his cancer diagnosis and treatment which was initially
kept secret as you know from the White House our national policy reporter and Clarity joins us from the Pentagon also foreign correspondent Marcus Moore who's in Aman Jordan joins us for more so Ann let's just start with you um secretary Austin uh promising that the us is going to retaliate but we still don't know when and how yeah Kira he was certainly short on operational details just speaking in Broad Strokes he said that his goal is to try to contain the violence that's happening in the Mid
dle East they certainly don't want a wider War he said specifically we are not at war with Iran but at the same time time he said that they want to degrade the houthi abilities and other militants from striking the us so I did speak with the Us official this morning who said this is going to unfold across several days you could see this in multiple countries we are expecting strikes possibly in Iraq and Syria possibly even Yemen as well Kira uh thank you for that and let me turn to Marcus now Ma
rcus there's some news today in the Israeli uh Hamas War and the efforts by powers in the region and the United States and others to have a lasting ceasefire with a hostage deal what's the latest on that yeah yeah Terry this is potentially encouraging encouraging news especially for the families who have been uh so worried about their loved ones right now more than a hundred people being held hostage by Hamas and other groups and we are learning from a Qatari official tonight that uh Hamas has r
eceived a proposal for a truce for hostage release but but it has not yet uh responded uh That official uh who has knowledge of the the negotiations that are underway right now saying quote uh there's no deal yet uh Hamas has received the proposal positively but we are waiting uh for their response and Terry it is a it's a it's a glimmer of hope uh as we watch this uh continue uh to unfold and the Qatari government as you know has been uh playing a key role as a mediator in the midst of all of t
his and so we'll watch uh very closely for the next move from Hamas uh but again this could be potentially more good news for those those families who have been so worried for so many months all right Marcus and appreciate it thanks so much a lot happening well at least three people are dead nine others injured after a hanger collapsed at a Boise Idaho airport officials there say that everyone on that site is now accounted for investigators are still trying to figure out though what happened Ari
ssa Don is there Boise with more so Melissa what's the latest on the investigation and and what do we know about the victims and the survivors at this point uh definitely it's Terry and Kira so investigators are now here on site we've seen some of the OSHA folks actually putting up a fence here because behind me is that airplane hanger that collapse uh total structure that we've been just looking at and seeing this morning essentially what we were knowing about was that it was under construction
so there were some uh several cranes that were out here as well we've also also spoken casually some other construction workers from other sites have come in and mentioned you know is there a possibility it was some of the cranes that were an issue was it a malfunction there there was also windy conditions was weather playing a part so those are all examples of things that uh Cal uh the OSHA and some of the investigators here will be looking into uh as to what exactly caused this hanger to coll
apse and again it's just sizable because to see this when you look at the wreckage behind me just collapsed word that is what one of the witnesses told me basically like a house of cards all of it suddenly collapsing and then when I prefaced that and I say that Kira and Terry it is so daunting it is traumatizing to think about what these Idaho firefighters First Responders had to go through when they arrived here really working quickly and as fast as they could because they had to peel go right
go in and pull people out of the rubble that difficult task at any time it happened here at Idaho local time Mountain time five o'clock so into the night they were working to pull people out of this Rubble unfortunately three people here did not survive they had five others that were sent to the hospital we're still monitoring their conditions at this time Terry K all right Melissa we'll follow it thank you thank you well coming up a desperate search for suspects is underway after a violent atta
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that that is shocking and appalling to look at what's the latest on this investigation it is a disturbing piece of of video and for the police they say that no officer should ever come under assault like that seven people have been arrested so far and the police are looking for five additional individuals that were believed to have been involved this all happened on Saturday when the police had approached what they said was a disorderly crowd outside a migrant shelter in Time Square and then as
they moved into to take someone into custody for doing something what what that something is wasn't exactly clear that's when uh this scuffle broke out that that you can see things got violent the officers uh were down on the ground with one of the suspects others were were kicking and punching them and for police they say this is completely unacceptable most of those involved are believed to be Asylum Seekers so it raised additional questions in a city that's already been struggling with an inf
lux of some 200,000 migrants sent to New York from the southern border yeah they aren't getting Asylum that's I say clearly this is a much bigger story just it's not just an attack on these officers but it's our overall problem of what's happening at the border and immigration and how it's impacting New York City and overwhelming resources law enforcement no question top of it yes Aaron please no the governor was asked Kira whether you know these are kinds of the kinds of people that should be d
eported by the United States and the governor said that's worth looking into so it really has sparked a debate uh it has also triggered a debate about uh crime and and and bail because most of the suspects that have been charged and arrested were released without bail and the police department is certainly unhappy about that our first reaction is why is is there even a debate here the uh the the the the prosecutors are taking a look at not only this video but they've obtained other video of the
assault and they want to be sure that they understand each person's role because there there might be a degree of difference uh there are also questions about identities ages they want to make sure they have all of that right before pressing forward with uh with with charges that May warrant a a a no bail or some kind of you know remanded circumstance of course got it appreciate it eron thank you well drivers in Washington state are on edge after a series of freeway shootings there in recent wee
ks authorities are now confirming that seven freeway shootings in just the first month of this year have occurred the search is on now for at least two suspects and in the latest incident that happened just yesterday ABC News correspondent Alex Stone joins us now Alex this is just a nightmare what's the latest hey there Terry yeah the latest on this one yesterday afternoon a driver and a passenger they were in an Acura they were driving down a road in King County in the Seattle area somebody in
a Dodge Charger the the passenger in that car pulled up started firing at them three times that they called 911 the the victims did a police helicopter went up above it they were able to track the the vehicle they uh tracked it all the way into an apartment complex the people inside got out they changed their clothes they changed their vehicle they left the gun and then they were out of there and they don't know where they went now here is the thing there have been seven of these in January but
they don't believe they were connected any of these seven the the what has been going on mysteriously they they think has been individual incidents individual shootings the suspect descriptions have been different every time the vehicle descriptions have been different every time nobody has been injured in any of these incredibly after seven shootings on freeways around Seattle but what's prompting it police say they don't know they think they're not connected this latest one being yesterday and
again luckily nobody injured my goodness unfortunately and it's something we're dealing here in our nation's capital A lot of these kids on on social media get involved at these competitions a lot of them involving crimes like carjackings Etc I talked to some police detectives about a month ago about this it's happening here in our area I wonder if this is some sort of challenge that they're seeing on social media unfortunately it's it's something that is uh that's going on well Alex let us kno
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mes to Walmart it's been since 2021 since they've opened new locations and now they've announced this major expansion where 150 stores will be added across the country in various cities they said urban areas but also in more rural areas to try to basically make the point that when people are shopping in the future and they're already doing it now first they're going online but they still want that inore experience so what Walmart is doing a little bit in in the heels of competition obviously fro
m Amazon the big Behemoth there is to try to add more stores that also serve as distribution centers so kind of this mix of e-commerce and in store that's what Walmart's us CEO told us is the future of shopping they're calling it Omni Channel you can call whatever you want but in a lot of ways it is that experience that so many people had before realizing they don't want to give it up entirely to go online guys so the retailer says that artificial intelligence is already shaping its day-to-day o
perations like keeping track of how much inventory is left and what's in the store what the CEO tell you about that well I think this is important because we talk about artificial intelligence a lot so much in the ab ract but we really tried to press the US CEO about what does this look like in practice how does this artificial intelligence change what employees are doing and what Shoppers are doing and they said that really it is making work more efficient that they're doing these kind of jobs
like tracking sales or tracking where products are in the store figuring out exactly what's left and when orders need to be placed in advance and we asked well isn't there a risk then that some of those jobs that people are doing and that we're doing that now could be replaced here's what the CEO told us you know over over time um we believe that we'll have more jobs than we do today as we continue to grow now the jobs will change so we see this as as a way to improve productivity but more impor
tantly to help Associates upskill learn new skills and and perform at a different level so a little bit of an admittance there that yeah the jobs are going to change because of this new technology but the hope is that it will also create new jobs and I do just want to say guys they are making a point to try to show that because the work is changing because of technology so is the pay store managers at Walmart can now make up to $400,000 every year guys wow that's pretty my hun though is that the
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hat deadly attack on American troops in Jordan good afternoon everyone I'm Kira Phillips and I'm Terry Moran and our top story this hour Jennifer Crumbley has testified in her own case she's on the witness stand right now she's the mother of the Michigan school shooter Ethan Crumbley who was in Oxford Michigan when he opened fire on classmates Jennifer Crumbley took the stand in her own defense after being accused of giving her son access to his murder weapon she stands charged with involuntary
manslaughter for not uh taking better care of that weapon that her son used to kill his classmates she didn't show a lot of emotion there um but she did talk about getting hives and hot flushes when she got really nervous you can see that right there uh as she's looking at pieces of evidence that she was asked about um and she was asked also specifically who was in charge of that gun that was in their house the one that Ethan Crumbley used to carry out that mass shooting and she said very simply
my husband she faces four counts of involuntary manslaughter now in that shooting that killed four students back in 2021 so joining us na news Trevor alt who's been inside the courtroom ABC's Phil lip off he's been following this case from the beginning along with legal contributor and trial attorney Brian buckmire so Trevor you were in court for the testimony of Jennifer uh Crumbley how did how did it seem to you and how did the jury react if you can read that uh I think that they're paying wr
apped attention so far Terry and this so far has played out the way that we would expect defense attorneys to lay out this examination when you have Jennifer Crumbley facing these very serious ious charges is that they took their time in building up the history with her son and having all of those photos and the Facebook post she admitted that she posts on Facebook far too much talking about all the times and the trips uh and the fun that she'd had with her son and with her husband too and just
uh in the past 15 minutes or so is when they really kind of got into what I think is going to be the Crux of this whole argument which is when her Story begins to split with these school officials and the reason I think that's going to be so important is because her argument up to this point as the prosecution has presented troubling journal entries and text messages from their son uh she was at least she claims unaware of all of that but she is aware of the meeting that happened the morning of
the shooting when the school called her and showed her the disturbing drawings that her son on done had done on his math worksheet says that they were required to get their son help for his mental health within the next 48 hours now the school officials have already testified that they felt it was very strange how the parents did not seem all that interested in getting their son helped for his mental health that morning and that the meeting ended abruptly after just 12 minutes today we heard fro
m Jennifer crumb's perspective she thought that the meeting was nonchalant and while she felt she didn't end the meeting she said that it ended when those counselors asked do you have any questions for us and that comes after they said you are required to get your son help for his mental health in 48 hours do you have any questions and Jennifer Crumbley admits they said no and then they left that might not uh Bode too well with the jury but of course as we've heard so much from our legal analyst
this is going to come down to the Cross examination it's what kind of we've been waiting for this entire trial it is going to be incredibly intense because there is a mountain of warning signs and red flags leading up to the shooting whether or not Jennifer Crumbley saw all of it is certainly going to be a question that's asked right and that's my next question to you Brian I mean what do you think about Jennifer crumb's attorney here because you you look at these text exchanges between Ethan a
nd his friend and you immediately think oh my gosh something horrible is about to happen he's admitting to hearing voices in his head and paranoia and anxiety and and um yet yet mom says I had no idea I I never I never saw those things does it look like they're trying to not deny the fact that he was a troubled child but that she just was a dis disengaged parent and this just simply wasn't her fault yeah and K that's ultimately the argument here it's about the Pere ability of what Jennifer Cruml
ey knew at the time uh prior to the shooting that the defense is really making the argument of distinguishing between what the mother knew whether it be at the meeting the text messages between the shooter and Jennifer and that anything else that she was not aware of was something that she could not foresee uh the events playing out on that November 30th or 2021 and so I think in that regard it is a good argument but some of the responses here I go back and forth with and even here as I'm sittin
g here with Phil I'm thinking hey I would cross-examine her this way I would cross-examine her that way and I think this cross examination is going to be robust I I look at the timeline of the photos that lead all the way up up until the actual shooting of this is a good mother this is her doing things that all parents would do with their child but if and this what I say in terms of of a cross-examination potentially if you were this close with your son and you saw all this positive them when th
at light start flickering behind his eye and he started becoming depressed and as she said she felt pretty concerned going into that meeting why not say guys my son has a gun he's drawing pictures he's saying please help me the voices won't stop it's not a joke at the house anymore this is something that's I won't say won't use this word but it's it's pouring now into the school I'm not going to just say I don't have any questions when you say I need to get him mental health help I'm going to sa
y I need to take him now because gun plus this could be harming him or others and I think that's going to be a difficult part for the defense uh and and the defense you know is is facing this charge of involuntary man the prosecution has to Pro prove that Jennifer crumley's actions caused the death of the victim uh that they were grossly negligent and that there's no lawful excuse or justification and and Phil I i' I'd like to go to you on that it sounds like part of her defense is going to be y
ou know what mother looks at her child and thinks she's looking at a murder it certainly seems that way so far and and that's what we've seen when other parents of School shooters uh have been questioned about it it's been two hours of this direct examination and as Brian and I are sitting here and listening to it about an hour and 20 hour and 30 minutes was spent on family pictures and camping and Christmas and cooking together and first day of 8ighth grade they showed so many pictures of what
any parent would relate to I have all those pictures with my kids too I'm sure the both of you do as well and that's obviously the strategy there trying to make her out to be any mom but as Trevor uh pointed out when her story starts to diverge with the story of the school and she has a different idea of what that meeting was like and the first time you hear her use the word concerned as Brian points out was on the day of the shooting and if she was concerned why was there no help that day uh fo
r her child why did she not bring him home from school she said Ethan wanted to stay at school and that's where he felt more comfortable but we're all parents here you know maybe as a parent that day you say hey it's time for a break these are the kind of things that the jury is going to be looking to ask so Brian what more needs to be proven here besides the fact that maybe she was just a terrible parent I think what we're going to see and we kind of got a glimpse of it from the prosecutions sa
ying they need 10 minutes to prepare with their exhibits I think there's going to be a ju position of what she testified on direct and really grilling her on cross-examination to say no these signs were clear in app parent and you ignored them it's one thing to say that signs didn't exist that you didn't see the the signs or that signs were there and you didn't put enough credit into them I think that last category is what the prosecution is trying to gear this case towards uh because they have
to do a distinguishing between you all jurors everyone who's watching this trial are probably great parents good parents whoever may be but Jennifer Crumbley is a unique parent in of herself and that her actions were completely egregious uh negligent and she was the cause of this because even though she didn't buy the gun she had the care of the gun she held the gun she stored it in her car without the proper requirements and believe that her husband because he told her that he took the gun from
the car and stored it properly that she was negligent in her actions with the gun her son and the red flags that she ignored all right it's quite a case very inter and important case and and Brian Trevor and Phil thanks very much for being with us on it well we're going to turn the page now from an apology to taking action defense secretary Lloyd Austin held his first press conference since his secretive hospitalization earlier uh this year Austin making it very clear the Pentagon is preparing
to retaliate for that deadly attack on US troops in Jordan take a listen we will take all necessary actions to defend the United States our interest and our people and we will respond when we choose where we choose and how we choose so the secretary finally taking questions for the first time from reporters there since his cancer diagnosis and treatment which was initially kept secret as you know from the White House our national policy reporter and clity joins us from the Pentagon also foreign
correspondent Marcus Moore who's in Aman Jordan joins us for more so and let's just start with you um secretary Austin uh promising that the us is going to retaliate but we still don't know when and how yeah Kira he was certainly short on operational details just speaking in Broad Strokes he said that his goal is to try to contain the violence that's happening in the Middle East they certainly don't want a wider War he said specifically we are not at war with Iran but at the same time he said th
at they want to degrade the houthi abilities and other militants from striking the US so I did speak with the Us official this morning who said this is going to unfold across several days you could see this in multiple countries we are expecting strikes possibly in Iraq and Syria possibly even Yemen as well Kira uh thank you for that and let me turn to Marcus now Marcus there's some news today in the Israeli uh Hamas War and the efforts by powers in the region and the United States and others to
have a lasting ceasefire with a hostage deal what what's the latest on that yeah yeah Terry this is potentially encouraging encouraging news especially for the families who have been uh so worried about their loved ones right now more than a hundred people being held hostage by Hamas and other groups and we are learning from a Qatari official tonight that uh Hamas has received a proposal for a truce for hostage release but but it has not yet uh responded uh That official uh who has knowledge of
the the the negotiations that are under way right now saying quote uh there's no deal yet uh Hamas has received the proposal positively but we are waiting uh for their response and Terry it is a it's a it's a glimmer of hope uh as we watch this uh continue uh to unfold and the Qatari government as you know has been uh playing a key role as a mediator in the midst of all of this and so we'll watch uh very closely for the next move from Hamas uh but again uh this could be potentially more good ne
ws for those those families who have been been so worried for so many months all right Marcus and appreciate it thanks so much lot happening well at least three people are dead nine others injured after a hanger collapsed at a Boise Idaho airport officials there say that everyone on that site is now accounted for investigators are still trying to figure out though what happened our Melissa Don is there and Boise with more so Melissa what's the latest on the investigation and and what do we know
about the victims and the survivors at this point uh definitely it's Harry and Kira so investigators are now here on site we've seen some of the OSHA folks actually putting up a fence here because behind me is that airplane hanger that collapsed uh total structure that we've been just looking at and seeing this morning essentially what we were knowing about was that it was under construction so there was some uh several cranes that were out here as well we've also spoken casually some other cons
truction workers from other sites have come in and mentioned you know is there a possibility it was some of the cranes that were an issue was it a malfunction there there was also windy conditions was weather playing apart so those are all examples of things that uh Cal uh the OSHA and some of the investigators here will be looking into uh as to what exactly caused this anger to collapse and again it's just sizable because to see this when you look at the wreckage behind me just collapsed inward
that is what one of the witnesses told me basically like a house of cards all of it suddenly collapsing and then when I preface that and I say that Kira and Terry it is so daunting it is traumatizing to think about what these Idaho firefighters First Responders had to go through when they arrived here really working quickly and as fast as they could because they had to peel go right go in and pull people out of the rubble that difficult task at any time it happened here at Idaho local time Moun
tain time 5:00 so into the night they were working to pull people out of this a rubble unfortunately three people here did not survive they had five others that were sent to the hospital we're still monitoring their conditions at this time Terry kir all right Melissa we'll follow it thank you thank you well coming up a desperate search for suspects is underway after a violent attack on police officers in New York City the latest on The Manhunt when we return Friday a stock hunting women makes me
shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you do with this and then a silver minivan pulls up oh he reaching for the I jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storm saturating the West more Americans turn to the most
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a disorderly crowd outside a Manhattan migrant shelter this is video that's been released by The NYPD ABC News senior investigative correspondent Aon kerski joins us now Aaron that that is in and appalling to look at what's the latest on this investigation it is a disturbing piece of of video and for the police they say that no officer should ever come under assault like that seven people have been arrested so far and the police are looking for five additional individuals that were believed to
have been involved this all happened on Saturday when the police had approached what they said was a disorderly crowd outside a migrant shelter in Times Square and then as they moved in to take someone into custody for doing something what what that something is wasn't exactly clear that's when uh this scuffle broke out that that you can see things got violent the officers uh were down on the ground with one of the suspects others were were kicking and punching them and for police they say this
is completely unacceptable most of those involved are believed to be Asylum Seekers so it raised additional questions in a city that's already been struggling with an influx of some 200,000 migrants sent to New York from the southern border yeah they aren't getting Asylum that's say clearly this is a much bigger story just it's not just an attack on these officers but it's our overall problem of what's happening at the border and immigration and how it's impacting New York City and overwhelming
resources law enforcement no question stand top of it yes Aaron please no the governor was asked whether you know these are kinds of the kinds of people that should be deported by the United States and the governor said that's worth looking into so it really has sparked a debate uh it has also triggered a debate about uh crime and and and bail because most of the suspects that have been charged and arrested were released without bail and the police department is certainly unhappy about that our
first reaction is why is there even a debate here the uh the the the the prosecutor uors are taking a look at not only this video but they've obtained other video of the assault and they want to be sure that they understand each person's role because there there might be a degree of difference uh there are also questions about identities ages they want to make sure they have all of that right before pressing forward with uh with with charges that may warrant a a a no Bale or some kind of you kno
w remanded circumstance of of course got it appreciate it eron thank you well drivers in Washington state are on edge after a series of freeway shootings there in recent weeks authorities are now confirming that seven freeway shootings in just the first month of this year have occurred the search is on now for at least two suspects and in the latest incident that happened just yesterday ABC News correspondent Alex Stone joins us now Alex this is just a nightmare what's the latest hey there Terry
yeah the latest on this one yesterday afternoon a driver and a passenger they were in an Acura they were driving down a road in King County in the Seattle area somebody in a Dodge Charger the the passenger in that car pulled up started firing at them three times that they called 911 the the victims did a police helicopter went up above it they were able to track the the vehicle they uh tracked it all the way into an apartment complex the people inside got out they changed their clothes they cha
nged their vehicle they left the gun and then they were out of there and they don't know where they went now here is the thing there have been seven of these in January but they don't believe they were connected any of these seven the the what has been going on mysteriously they they think has been individual incidents individual shootings the suspect descriptions have been different every time the vehicle descriptions have been different every time nobody has been injured in any of these incred
ibly after seven shootings on freeways around Seattle but what's prompting it police say they don't know they think they're not connected this latest one being yesterday and again luckily nobody injured my goodness unfortunately and it's something we're dealing here in our nation's capital A lot of these kids on on social media get involved at these competitions a lot of them involving crimes like carjackings Etc I talked to some police detectives about a month about this it's happening here in
our area I wonder if this is some sort of challenge that they're seeing on social media unfortunately it's it's something that is uh that's going on well Alex let us know as you learn more clearly we want to know more about it you got it thanks well coming up Walmart is announcing a major expansion how it could affect a Walmart near you when we return the ideal male physique is tall dark and handsome money can buy you a lot of things money can't make you taller right we're bring you behind the s
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s and then a silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun and jumped out of the [Music] car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found new 2020 Friday night on ABC first thing in the morning there's a lot going on get another Avalanche warning that's up to catch you up with what happened overnight a dangerous ice storm is impacting the morning commute what's happening today escalating tensions in the Middle East what people are talking
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its Workforce they say it's been years since Walmart has actually opened a new store and they're focusing on online sales but now they decide to make this multi-billion dollar investment in new locations across the country we want to take you now to Pontiac Michigan and the courthouse there where the prosecution is set to begin its cross-examination of Jennifer Crumbley she's the Michigan mother who is facing four counts of involuntary manslaughter after her son Ethan shot and killed four stude
nts at his high school in Oxford Michigan in 2021 let's listen in the jury's heard a lot about love that meting okay so I'm going to fast forward you go back to work right yeah you saw the exhibit of you walking back in correct okay we heard um Amanda howand testify about how she gives you some advice do you recall her giving you advice I don't is she somebody you go to for advice no when um we were never like friends outside of work and she was Andy's administrative assistant so it was just for
malities really with her we didn't really have anything in common her child was real young at a teenager okay um all right I want to go to the time where you heard there was an open shooter the jury's already heard how you heard about that okay and I we know you got in your car you drove up to Oxford right correct okay um we heard about the description of that Caravan did you see that Caravan um yeah I actually I joined it a black SUV and that was my fastest way to get to the school so you actua
lly were a part of that um with all the law enforcement officers all headed up yep I just kind of jumped in what is that LE Road um it started on 75 I my I work at Square Lake and Telegraph so I get um 75 from Square Lake there and it was well before um the 20 M24 exit I would say about a quarter of a mile it was track was backed up okay now um you sent you sent a text and if you need to see it let me know you sent a text to your son that says you can talk to us why did you send him back um afte
r I left the meeting I knew that he was sad about things and I just wanted to let know that he can talk to us about anything um just wanted to make sure I I open that door um you know just let him know that we're there for him and we love him okay and he said he loved you do you recall that do okay was that was there anything unusual about that yeah um he's at that age where it was hard to get I love you's back out of him um for me to open my text and just see him randomly saying I love you was
abnormal for him right did you think anything at that point um no not not right at that point I I I think I I text back I love you too I don't remember I believe I did yeah okay and waiter in the thread you say um don't do it so when you hear there's an open shooter at the school I want to know in your mind what do you believe is happening oh my my husband had called me when I was still at work and he said there's there's an active shooter at Oxford High School I can't get a hold of Ethan and th
at's when I open my phone and I saw that I love you text and then I texted him are you okay um in the process of it I was getting my stuff and running out the door let my boss know that I had to go to my son's school um it was on 75 when I was trying to get to get to the exit um that my husband called me and he asked me where I hid the bullets and I told him and then he said the the gun is missing um so instantly it just I'm like oh my gosh he's he's got the gun I didn't actually think he was at
the school shooting him I thought maybe he walked home and got the gun and was in the field by the school sh I just I didn't imagine my son actually going into a school and shooting and then when we got more updates I was like oh my gosh he's he's a school shooter he's going to kill himself because in my mind that's what School shooters have done they've killed themselves after so I yelled and my talk to text Ethan don't do it because I thought he was going to kill himself at that point did you
think Ethan had killed anyone no I didn't even think he shot anyone at that point well that was going to be my next question did you believe he injured anyone or shot anyone did anything no no no I thought he was going to kill himself okay um so you you find out the gun is missing so you do think he's got the gun but it's going to turn it on himself right okay so where did you at that point you went to the sub station I think we saw the video yeah um my husband had called me when I got close to
the house and he said the Hub the substation just called and they want us to come down there they they had my son and so I picked him up on the way and we drove to the substation together when you say picked him up picked who up they the the um the my son was in custody basically the the substation who did you pick up I picked up my husband I'm sorry okay you picked up James okay what was going through your mind at this point going from picking James up to the sub station um I don't know I I wa
s just I asked my husband I was like is he alive and he said I don't know we're going down there I didn't really know what to think um I was kind of in a was kind of hazy it was kind of everything was a little surreal I just I still didn't believe that he actually shot anybody or was in the school I just knew that he there was gunfire I I I didn't know I didn't know the extent of it at all so when you at the substation did you you asked them about fatalities we saw it on there that wasn't at the
oh yeah I did okay but if you didn't get any answer right no no not at that point were you thinking that anyone was injured or that anyone was hurt um he did say there was injuries and um at that point my mind went to we can handle in injuries we can we can handle injuries I went into I went into kind of like go mode like what do we have to do my son's arrested didn't think there's I did not think there would be any fatalities um you didn't think there' be any injuries no I didn't think there'
be injuries I I didn't think there'd be anything but I just went into that mode like we can handle we can handle injuries and we can figure this out and go from there okay we saw the interview at the sub station I'm not going to go through all that with you okay after that you go to your house is that correct correct and I the next thing please H your door um we were at the house for a minute and we were putting some hot water on the oven on the stove um my husband walked around walked out back
to the side of the house I saw him walk towards the end of the driveway through my kitchen window I was sitting in my kitchen on my phone talking to my dad and I realized my husband was gone for a little bit longer I didn't see him walk back so I walked out the front door of my house and what did you see um there was a bunch of officers with guns drawn on me have you ever been in that position before no I have not what did you think when that happened um I don't know I remember just dropping my
phone and putting my hands up and then being handcuffed it was it all happened so fast I was it was shocking okay we saw you sit in the car with James with the handcuffs right correct so we don't need to go through all that no after that we saw video where you're sitting in the car and you talk to police for a long time there's a lot of long pauses in it right right okay I'm not going to go through that whole video right now okay but if there's something you need you can let me know um during th
e substation meeting while you're with um Joe Brian you J this is direct examination what we what happened question I'm just putting us in a space I'm going to ask a non-leading question okay so we we see we all can see that you are using your phone while you are speaking to law enforcement I want to know what you're doing on your phone um it's not leading what were you and the whole jury can hear you constantly saying okay what were you doing on your phone um I was looking well first I was look
ing for the paper to show The Office that was sitting next to me um the first one I pulled up I couldn't get to zoom in so I had to search through my emails for the other one to get that pulled up once I got my phone back I'm pretty sure I was going through the mass amount of text messages and Facebook messages I was receiving from family and friends asking if my son was okay because at this point in time nobody knew anything I was also messaging with my with my co or my boss who happens to be a
n attorney um trying to get his advice on what to do um um I I was on my phone I'm not going to deny it I was probably looking at text messages and Facebook messages and just trying to get updates on anything um is that the same or different when you're in the back of the patrol car what do you mean there's a point where you're in the patrol car by yourself right okay you've got your phone tell us what you're doing on your phone at that point um I know was messaging with my dad a lot because I h
ad dropped the phone when I was talking to him and I got arrested so I was King them in what was going on um I was also messaging immediate family members and close friends that my son was okay but he was he was the shooter um so that's mainly what I was doing what was your state of mind like at that time um I don't know it was pretty it was pretty numb I just I didn't really believe I had a hard time I don't know I I was numb I didn't really believe like everything was happening the way it was
it was surreal I my mind was in all different places okay so um you you um when did you find out there were fatalities um in the back of the car went out by myself and I asked the officer um and you told me there was there was four fatalities that's on the video yes um I'm not going to ask you questions about that okay all we can hear is Object object and it's it's very distracting I them to write notes or something because it's very distracting okay I can't hear them but just tryes down I didn'
t I didn't I didn't I didn't I have okay okay we're okay well she can hear you saying something apparently okay so this is the time where you find out there's fatalities um I'm going to move on to a different topic on your cell phone do you have a habit of deleting messages usually it's threads okay explain to the jury what you do cuz IAD explain I I well on Facebook I do a lot of Facebook Marketplace so I get a lot of messages what's Facebook marketplace where you buy where you buy and sell thi
ngs um so my main the first main screen my phone will get clogged up with Marketplace messages so I'll just delete thre threads to my main people come up that I talk to in a regular basis if that starts getting full I delete those threads too same thing with text messages I delete threads until the main people I talked to are up on the main screen so I don't have to slip have to scroll down to find them okay so that's is that a habit that you started that day that month when did you start doing
this deleting text thing pretty much when I got a cell phone i' I've always done that okay did you go out of your way um in this case to delete like certain messages not intentionally no and so when there's a message they say you deleted that indicates the gun was locked did you do you recall deleting that message no I completely forgot I sent that message or unsending it I'm sorry no I don't remember okay there's there's another message that um is unsent talking about we did everything right th
at kind of thing do you recall unsending that message no okay so when we when law enforcement got um found that there was a lot of deleted content does that surprise you in any way no um and you don't dispute you've seen a lot of text message threads that have been admitted you agree those were all the those were a lot of the messages going on is that right right and a lot of those are what were deleted correct okay so after you're interviewed um there was a point where the the police tell you a
nd James you guys need to leave the house is that right yes where did you guys go um we went up to to we went the first time we ended up going to the Holiday Express and sitting in the parking lot trying to figure out what was going on waiting for them to call us was there a point you had go back to the house yes they called us to come back to the house did you know why you're going back um they told us that the search was over and they just wanted us to come back to the house okay so when you g
ot back to the house what happened um we went into the house and then the um detective asked for our cell phones and were you you reluctant about giving over your cell phone yes I was okay why is that um sounds bad but my life is in my cell phone my contacts are in my cell phone everything I need is in my cell phone I don't memorize phone numbers I have an emergency going on and they're taking my only means of contact away from me okay there was a suggestion to go get burner phones or track phon
es prepaid phones correct did you do that yes we did okay so there was evidence you went to Walmart in Le yep and we saw the receipts um there's been a lot of text messages about threats tell the jury about what you were receiving oh we were we were receiving so many threats on to let me back up on our new track phones in my Facebook Messenger there is a ton of threats I wasn't getting text threats on my new track phone because I have my number but my Facebook me messenger was blowing up with th
reats uh once I got into my email account that was blowing up with threats um people found my realtor.com profile that I hadn't had for years and were sending me messages through that um I had people sending me screenshots of text threats they found that I didn't know about um how are you feeling at this point I was feeling pretty scared okay scared of what um well scared that somebody might hurt us okay um at that point did you ever go back home this is the first time right I'm talking after yo
u bought the Tria oh no we went to the hotel and Le okay so you go to the hotel and Le um and then how many how long did did you stay there just one night okay so that was the night of the 30th the 30th okay what did you do on the 1 um we we woke up I knew I had to make arrangements I had um a senior dog and two cats still at the house I didn't know what to do with um my neighbor was sending me updates letting me know um that there was still media around my house um that I had my house had multi
ple um random pizza deliveries um that people were calling in um so I had to get dog food for our dog and I met her at the um actually in the church parking lot behind Red Naps um that afternoon to give her the food okay and I believe that we've heard about that saw the GPS stuff did you go to any banks not on that day okay did you go anytime that week yes all right what why were you going to Banks um when all this unfolded and we found out that it was my son that was a shooter I get a lot of ad
vice from my dad my dad's been involved in some some civil suits before um he told me that there's probably going to be a lot of of lawsuits and they're going to try to um take your assets and I didn't really have any assets the bank owned my house the bank owned my cars and all I had was the cash in my bank and he said they could freeze your account so I went and withdrew money from my account my dad also deposited extra money in my account during that time to give to us help us retain a lawyer
which I withdrew as well okay so you withdrew that money did you withdraw anything from an account that had Ethan's name on it uh we transfer money from that savings account to our account okay explain that account um I know it says ean's name on it is anyone else listed on the account uh no it's a simply kids saving account through Flagstar Bank so he opened it with $200 um I don't think he really had any more than $100 left after things he wanted to buy but I transfer money from my check into
that account so we kind of use as a savings account too okay so it's so um did you leave any money in that account uh if we did it was very little okay um the next so on December 1st we heard testimony already that your son was charged you watched online is that accurate correct okay um we heard on the first did you guys stay at the hotel in LA or did you go somewhere else no we went to um the Extended Stay in Auburn Hills okay why is that um probably for the cheapest rates and it was a decent
hotel not any other reason why okay okay so how long did you end up staying at the Extended Stay in Auburn Hills um we end up staying there for 2 days okay and then um we've heard testimony that um charges were going to be announced at some point did you know when charges would be announced no um I was kind of following the news articles trying to get updates um my cousin was sending me a lot of text you know saying I think they're going to charge you too we didn't think I would get charged mayb
e my husband cuz the gun was was in his name um so we had an awareness of it but I don't think it really actually set in that it was going to happen until it did okay so um we heard testimony that um on December 3rd you end up at an art studio explain to us how you what was theel Extended Stay in Auburn Hills correct okay tell us all where you went um how do you get from that hotel to to the art studio in Detroit and why give us the rundown um so we ended up going to a lasso to get regular cell
our normal cell phones we couldn't shut down accounts um why couldn't you shut down accounts because the two the two Factor authenication so they was sending a text message to my old phone number I didn't have so I had and I had my uh employer yelling at me to shut down my LinkedIn account um my Instagram account cuz I had my employer's name all over it um so we had to get uh cell phones with our old numbers on it to get that back um were you trying to deactivate Facebook and stuff too um I was
trying well I already deactivated fa Facebook my husband needed to deactivate his Facebook I had to deactivate LinkedIn and Instagram and I couldn't get into my email my burner phone because of that two Factor authenication code thing okay so you guys went to aaso and got what we got regular cell phones with our old numbers on it okay um then what um then it's when Andre uh my friend called is there any reason you went to aaso to get those phones yeah we didn't feel safe in the loel area okay so
you drove like the hour they test it okay all right so then what um so my friend Andre uh who owns Art deal called and was checking in to see how how we were doing and he wanted to stop by our hotel it was the night of the 2 um so he actually came to our hotel that night and he invited us to come to his Art Studio the next day just to be around a friend friend just to he wanted to buy us sandwiches he wanted to show us Arts Studio he's just a really nice guy that was just offering a friendship
during that time when we didn't know what was going on so that's how we ended up going to the art studio okay how did you get to the art studio um I drove okay drove what we drove I I drove my car and with my husband left um our other car at the hotel okay so we've heard about how one cars like left at this hotel that's because you guys went to together together correct okay did you know you were going to get charged at that point we had heard they might announce charges um sometime that day oka
y but I want to know did you know you were definitely being charged at that point oh no okay so you tell us what happened when you got to the art studio I think we saw the him show you where to park is that what happened yeah why did you park where you parked um I was parking close to the dumpster and he told me to move move away from the dumpster cuz people like to throw stuff out there so I mooved he showed me where to park so I wasn't taking anybody's parking space or blocking the dumpster or
any of that okay so then uh what did you guys do that day um he showed us around the the building um and then we went to the art studio Andre had a business meeting um I think at 11 o' that day and so he left the building for a little bit um he came back after charges were announced so he came back um when we found out we're getting charged they brought sandwiches back um at that point in time how are you feeling at that point when you found out you're getting charged it's freaked out I don't I
've never been charged anything in my life okay so you've never been charged with a crime like this like this correct okay of this magnitude correct all right so what okay so you know you're charged or you know that they want you um what was your plan at that point um well I was in touch with my attorney um me you and I was taking your advice that we're going to turn ourselves in um when were you planning to turn yourself in uh the next day so it would be Saturday morning okay why was that um th
at's when the the Novi Court was doing um arrangments that day okay so on Friday the whole afternoon you know you're being charged that afternoon um what was your plan at that point or what were you doing at that point um we were I was debating whether or not to go back to Auburn Hills and stay at the extended stay and I think this is before we we even knew there was a man hunt out for us okay your honor may I approach uh the witness with defense exhibit a the prosecution has received it no obje
ction do you object to submission okay thank you okay a is admitted um can you tell the jury what that document shows um it's a priceline.com travel itinerary your trip from December 1st okay last visited 123 2021 okay so when you're okay on 123 are there also searches for another hotel uh I think so yeah well there's a um Price Line checkout Auburn Hills 12425 so I think I was looking at for those dates so you were planning to is it fair to say that you're looking for a hotel objection the lead
ing all right so that exhibit what does it tell you about your plans for 44 to 45 um to be in Auburn Hills extendus day okay what is price plan it's an um an app where you can get last minute hotel deals do you agree these are your surges yeah I'm always on Price Line okay um ultimately on the night of the 3D um are you aware were you aware on Friday afternoon if you could go into court that afternoon what was your awareness I was not aware that we could go into court that afternoon um I was jus
t waiting on direction from you to what we're going to do the following day and turning ourselves in all right so the prosecution showed um lots of pictures about art studio we agree that's what it looks like right right okay did you guys sleep on that mattress that night yeah we did it was actually in the um in the hallway of a common hallway the business is shared and we pulled it into the art studio and slept on it that night okay did you the prosecution showed receipts and supplies that were
bought things like that who went to the store and did that uh my friend um went to the store we gave him a list and he picked up things for us okay why didn't you go to the police department this is so distracting I'm having a really hard time I can move maybe and ask okay try try not to talk okay um so you're who bought those supplies um my friended okay why didn't you and James just go on your own to the police department um and turn yourselves in because we didn't feel it' be safe okay why i
s that um just the fact that the entire community and Michigan knew that we were expected to turn ourselves in at the police department so they would know where to go okay um and so that night what did you and James sleep there we did what time did you go to bed what happened just really quickly I want to say it's it was after 11: maybe around 11:00 when we finally went to bed um we we both I'm prescribed Xanax for anxiety and we each took four because we knew we're going to be turning ourselves
in the next day and we hadn't slept in 4 days and we just wanted to sleep okay so you each took four we did okay and so the next thing um the next piece of evidence we showed we saw was um them coming into to that art studio do you recall that I recall my husband screaming and there was people with guns again in our face officers what were you doing prior to hearing your husband screaming we were sleeping okay were you aware there was anything going on no it was not okay we saw the video so we
don't need to go through all of that um and the prosecution admitted I'm going to put it up on the screen people's exhibit 150 and I just want to verify with you I'm sorry can you turn it okay do you see it on your screen I do okay what is that um that's an alarm we set for or I set for the next morning for Saturday morning for Saturday morning correct okay do you recall why you set it for 6:30 64 is there two alarms or one yeah there's two okay why did you set those alarms um because we were go
ing to wake up and drive to the noai courthouse and meet you you there by 8:30 okay and what was your plan plan there what was going to be your plan when you got to no um we were going to be arraigned okay now do [Music] you there was evidence oh whoops there was evidence that um your person belongings were found in totes there did you do you remember seeing all those pictures I do okay tell the jury why those were your purse and personal effects were in those bins um I didn't know if we were go
ing to jail I didn't know if we were going to be bonded out I didn't know what was going to happen so I had told my friend where I left my purse and my backpack where I did have all pretty much all my money in it to grab those the next the next day or when he's at the studio he's not usually there in the weekend so I put him in the totes just just for extra precaution um in some of the messages the prosecution admitted you say that you failed as a parent do you feel are you a failure as a parent
I don't think I'm a failure as a parent but at that time um I guess I didn't see I felt bad that Ethan was sad at those things and I guess I just I don't know I just felt like I failed somewhere I don't I don't really know how to describe it that point in time I just I just just kind of felt like somewhere I failed do you believe there was anything um do you believe that you knew or had reason to know your son was a danger to anyone else no um as a parent you spend your whole your whole life tr
ying to protect your C your child from other dangers um you never you never would think you have to protect your child from harming somebody else that's what that's what blew my mind just that was the hardest thing I had to to stomach is that my child harmed and killed other people do you believe there were things you were thinking at the time I should do this but I'm not doing it do you look back and think that no I don't I mean I of course I look back after this all happened and um I've asked
myself if I would have done anything differently and I wouldn't enough if you could change what happened would you oh absolutely I wish he would have killed us instead over the last um 26 months um has this been stressful for you it's been very stressful yes have you had a range of emotions I've had a lot of emotions are you trying to are you do you believe you are the victim here um I don't want to say that I'm a victim because I do not want to disrespect those families that truly are the victi
ms on this um but we did lose a lot youve lost everything we did right I'm I'm going to have you um come back tomorrow morning 8:30 in the morning all right I'm always looking for the natural Break um I I need to instruct you during the trial do not re listen to or watch any news reports about the case under the law the evidence you must consider to decide the case must meet certain standards for example Witnesses must swear to tell the truth and the lawyers must be able to cross-examine them be
cause news reports do not have to meet these standards they could give you incorrect or misleading information that might unclearly favor one side so to be fear to both sides you must follow this instruction ction uh do not go on social media do not post do not go on Facebook do not do research do not discuss the case with anyone do not watch the news do not read a newspaper you guys have been really great and we appreciate it all right so I'll see you tomorrow at 8:30 all for the [Music] I'm G
let the jury go right now so that I can ask if there's anything um you can see okay she comes out yeah she can step you can be seated you're you're going to do cross tomorrow morning um um and then do you know what you're going to do next I don't um your honor my client and I have a number of Witnesses on our list okay and to be quite Frank I'm going to go to meet with her okay or I have arrangements to meet with her okay um I have opinions about what we should do I I know that our opinions have
not matched and so we need to have some discussions I I just don't know who I'm going to be calling Bas on that but the prosecution has my list okay it's the same as it's been nothing's changed okay I actually have two names I can give them that I'm I know I'm not going to call okay jge shortly before trial the people filed a um a notice of intent to admit something should the uh defense Council assert a privilege that privileged me attorney client communication questions asked of the defendant
I believe cause a revisiting of that room okay meaning that there was a thumbnail photograph recovered off of the defendant's phone from a time period where the police were on scene at 11-11 BW in uh Detroit the defendant has testified that she was waiting to hear for instructions from Miss Smith she can't testify to any Communications between herself and her attorney without waving the privilege that privilege has been W waved we should be now entitled to explore what that text message was the
timing of it with is very important especially considering the timing of the 911 call in Detroit as well as the timing of The Fugitive team's arrival in Detroit in the timing of the arrest of the defendant are you talking about the text that I already saw Yes judge the two word text taking this stand in her own defense Jennifer Crumbley the mom of Michigan high school shooter Ethan Crumbley testifying today as she faces four counts and involuntary manslaughter in connection with that shooting t
hat killed four students her husband does have his own trial coming up soon in today's testimony a sometimes emotional crumbly recounting the days and months preceding that shooting you can see her sitting there on the left of your screen she talked about what she knew and did not know about her son she even went as far as saying that she wished that she and her husband had been killed by their son instead of the other victims that day let's bring in our legal contributor and trial attorney Bria
n buckmire who's been following this all day Brian this was a highly anticipated moment in the trial first of all walk us through what's happening right now in the courtroom after this testimony ended and what stood out to you Brian so right now what's going on is the prosecution I think it's making the right uh objection or at least alerting the court that they expect to go into the communications between Jennifer Crumbley and her attorney now typically that's what we call attorney client privi
lege um I myself representing people uh in the city of New York for over 9 years even after I've represented them I can't tell you what my client told me uh but if a client tells another person or especially tells the court they are in essence waving that privilege and now someone can question them they must answer that so when Jennifer Crumbley goes up there and says well I was speaking to my attorney and she was going to give me the the kind of the signal to turn myself in that's in essence wa
ving that privilege and the prosecution is making the right argument that they should be able to dive into that conversation that they typically can't to explore the timing of when she's supposed to turn herself in uh in terms of what stuck out to me um a lot of this testimony in my mind is good for her uh really trying to create empathy for the jurors to say I'm just like you I'm just a regular parent I missed some of these steps I wish I had seen them but I'm expecting that this cross-examinat
ion be very damaging in terms of jux supposing what she said with whatever evidence they have to show that she's either misleading or wrong in some way we did hear Jennifer Crumbley get emotional as she was describing those moments before the police came to get her she said in retrospect though she wouldn't have done anything differently she said she doesn't think she's failed as a parent but that there are some places that she failed how do you think the jury will hear her arguments and this ar
gument from her that she didn't do anything wrong that she wouldn't have done anything differently I mean I understand it I've presented uh clients where their parents say the exact same thing they they don't believe anything wrong but when your son uh pled guilty to a mass shooting there is a misstep there there is an error there there is something where you say I failed in some regard and when you have a jury of 10 women and seven men many of them parents themselves I think they're all looking
at Jennifer Crumbley and say you know what you've got to take some onus here I often use the phrase in in situations like this you can say hey my hands aren't bloody but they are dirty I've made some mistakes and I would have expected her to take some remorse and to the emotional aspect I saw the emotion as it applied to her sadness for her sadness for her situation sadness for her son I didn't see much emotion or sadness directed to the victims in this case and I think that's going to hurt her
in some regard Brian she said she didn't feel safe turning herself into the police department is that something that carries weight when you think about how there was this search for her and her husband will the jurors by that argument that she didn't feel like she could go turn herself in because it wasn't safe I I mean my question and I think the prosecutor is going to ask the same question sayfe from what what what what fear did you have did you think that you would turn yourself into law en
forcement and they would kind of let you loose to the Mob to for them to make good on the threats that she received or that she said she received uh I think an explanation going further than I just didn't feel safe is something that's going to need to be explained here and that explanation May something that either clears up that that that reasoning or is more damaging than what she initially thought what are you hoping to hear now Brian when the prosecution begins cross-examination so in a case
like this one of the major difficulties of putting your clients on the stand and I call them the the what about questions in a case where the prosecution is saying you missed red flags I think what's going to happen is they're going to take concrete evidence that cannot be disproven put it in front of her and say well what about this why wasn't this a red flag for you what about that why wasn't that a red flag for you you said this on direct examination well we have evidence that you should hav
e thought about this way and I think that comment of I don't think I failed as a parent uh comes up hey I've only been a parent for 18 months I'm in no position to to criticize another parent uh especially a mother but I think the jurors in this case are going to say no in many regards this is a failure and we will hold you accountable uh I I'm looking that cross-examination and then the redirect to see if her attorney can rehabilitate any of her answers going forward a lot more to watch Brian b
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l right um stay on the topic of OBGYN uh postpartum care uh ways to kind of have a Kindler or gentler postpartum experience which is so important not just for the woman who's given birth but for the baby and the whole extended Circle um know that it is okay to limit visitors this is my favorite piece of advice I remember telling Eva this when you had Ella everyone wants to come over you can just say check back with me in a month or so um let your friends and family know ways that they can specif
ic speically help and by the way it might not be cuddling with the newborn baby maybe it's running errands for you um just let them know because they do want to help and really this is not about being perfect folks um you've just grown a human and brought a baby into the world just recognize that and give yourself a little pat on the back give yourself some Grace that was one of those messages you kept telling me right before I had Ella doesn't have to be perfect you don't have to do this you do
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ch streaming weekends on ABC News live welcome back to gma3 n of the landmark case against a mother in Michigan Jennifer Crumbley is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter after her son killed four students at Oxford High School in 2021 she has pleaded not guilty but if she is convicted it would be the first time that parents are held responsible in connection with the mass shooting committed by their child and joining us for our legal segment better call Brian as ABC News contribu
tor and attorney Brian buckmire good to see you my friend good to be here guys so every time I see this on the news and many people that I know and you see a minor involved you automatically think okay what did their parents know were their parents involved what type of home did they grow up in so this is a clear case that there were red flags the father purchased the gun mom knew about it what's up with this yeah like you said it's about red flags and how that gun got into the shooter's hands w
hen you look at some of the red flags that the prosecution is putting forward they're talking about these text messages that the shooter shared with the mother that he was seeing demons in the home things flying off the shelf and she kind of like poo pooed it like just kind of brush it off is not that much but we know that he had lost his grandmother he had lost his dog his best friend had moved away uh and then we talk about the actual day of the shooting when the teachers called in the parents
and showed them this math homework with quotes like the thoughts won't stop help me blood everywhere pictures of a gun pictures of a bullet these were the red flags that the prosecution is pointing to to try to prove their case now what's the defense saying about these red flags the defense is saying that they didn't know that their child had mental health issues to this level that the teachers and the schools should have alerted them should have given them more information and that they were u
naware even though the father purchased a gun that this would be an issue in terms of either harming himself or others and I will also note that there's a civil lawsuit against the school that's something the family's pursuing as well and we should also mention that the the shooter who is now 17 years old by the way pleaded guilty and is currently serving life in prison this could be a landmark case could it set a president for cases moving ahead absolutely the word that we use in the legal fiel
d is called the bright line rule what's going to be criminal and what's not going to be criminal so when you look at a case like this where you have this many red flags and I would say that cause or that kind of spark of actually purchasing a gun for your child if you add those together in Michigan they're saying that's enough for involuntary manslaughter that's enough to put someone away for up to 15 years now as we've seen in years past there have been multiple school shootings a lot of prosec
utors are probably looking at this case to say if there's a conviction here for one or both parents maybe this is a recipe for a replication down the line to maybe hold people accountable but what about parents who say I knew nothing I didn't know anything was going on with my child and that's where the bright line rule comes in if you didn't know anything if the school didn't alert you if you for example didn't purchase them a gun then you might not be liable for this type of of crime and I thi
nk what's going to happen especially as a parent now myself we're going to probably be much more attuned to what's going on with our child is the school giving us the appropriate information and of course maybe I don't buy them a gun if I have those questions what are the key issues that you think will determine the outcome of this case so kind of going back to what the parents are worry about as well for me the key issues are foreseeability and causation now we could put some fancy legal words
up on the wall and explain it but I think the best way to explain it is the way that every law uh student learns it for the last 100 years there's this wild case called Paul's graph versus the Long Island Railroad I know it's wild trust me it's true this woman sued the railroad for a coin operated scale falling on her and injuring but the railroad company actually won because this is the story two men chasing after a train one gets on the last one gets helped by railroad uh employees as he's hel
ped to get on his suitcase Falls but unknown to anyone there are fireworks in his suitcase fireworks go off they hit the scale the woman gets hit the railroad said that was unforeseeable I can't be on the hook for that cuz I didn't cause it I didn't know that this person had fireworks in there I didn't know that helping him onto the train would have caused this think about that rule and apply it to a school shooting could you foreseen this accident did you cause it by quote unquote providing the
fireworks that's what's being argued here in this case against Jennifer Crumbley and ultimately her husband come early March what a way to make it plain that's why we call Brian better call Brian Brian thank you very much we appreciate it good to see you again after a short break here Life Through The Eyes of the quarterback's wife yeah we're talking about Britney Mahomes she's getting ready for Super Bowl Sunday as well GMA 3 when we come [Music] back in mcac one of the biggest unclimbed rock
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ABC from the port of Newark New Jersey I'm Trevor alt wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News live I got welcome back to gma3 it's time for today's parent Spotlight where we get an inside glimpse of on camera moms and dads behind the scenes yeah turning now to our ABC new's contributor Roxy Diaz so Roxy Who are we talking about today I love our parent spotlights thanks to our sponsor aiq I got a chance to catch up with soccer team co-owner and wife of Kansas City Chi
efs quarterback Patrick Mahomes Britney Mahomes and it turns out that on the other side of the sideline she's a mom trying to figure it out just like everyone else take a look so we're so accustomed seeing you in our living rooms you become a household name especially while we watch you cheer on your hubby Patrick Mahomes but you also were a soccer player which I think is super do you co-own a soccer team as well I do and you're super mom is there always a game plan at the house I think so we're
a big game plan type of family we feel that planning things makes life a lot easier and I am big into planning thinking ahead you know making sure things are ready to go all the time I feel like that's my other job is organizing our family and organizing our life constantly so planning is a huge huge part of our life so we're doing our parent Spotlight right now I want to ask you some rapid fire mom questions you tell me the first thing that comes to mind you ready okay I'm ready what's the las
t lie you told your kids it was to Sterling The Elf on the Shelf took her paes and so I felt like you know it's time to wean away from these paes and we used our wonderful Elf on the Shelf named disco to assist us in that and it worked it worked what's the best parenting advice that you've gotten take your kids everywhere that you can that's safe for them we're on the road a lot keeping our kids involved and everything has helped them you know be able to accommodate to time changes and being out
in public and that type of stuff what's one thing about motherhood that has surprised you Mom guilt m I think that I did not realize how bad I would feel to not be able to be with my kids 24/7 it's definitely something I'm battling with and getting better at but it's still very surprising me about how bad I feel oh wow about that kind of stuff what's one mom hack that you cannot live without oh my God snacks taking snacks with you everywhere you go having the DI bag full of snacks is key I thin
k for sure what's one thing about motherhood that scares you the most oh man in our house it's food allergies for sure you know you can't keep your eyes on your kids 24/7 and it scares me that there could ever be an instance that they come in contact with something they're allergic to as a mom of course you can't play in for everything but it's good to be prepared and especially after you learned that both your kids have food allergies how do you come up with a game plan to deal with that we alw
ays have to be thinking ahead everyone around us is prepared if something was to happen everyone around us is aware of their allergies like like we've had to remove stuff you know at football games and in suits because you know I can't keep my eyes on everyone at all the time we were actually prescribed avvq from our pediatrician for Sterling and bronze and it is the only epinephrine auto injector out there that is approved for infants and toddlers it speaks to you so that's the main thing is it
talks to you you know in a very calm voice and walks you through step by step Place black end against outer thigh then push firmly until you hear a click and hiss sound and at the end it does tell you remind you to call 911 so you know in a situation that you would have to use it obviously you know as a mom or anyone who's taking care of the kid is probably in a panic severe freakout moment so having something that speaks to you and lets you know what to do um is really reassuring where can mom
s go and find out more information food allergy gam plan.com um there's tons of resources and information on there for them Ry thank you so much I know you have a busy week thank you so much for spending time with us thank you for having me thank you to Britney Mahomes and a big thanks to our sponsor aiq that's a good reminder to us all to be prepared and make sure our loved ones are safe when it comes to food allergies back to you I love it m and those food allergies are no joke I know a lot of
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stake with climbing this is not what I signed up for is always your life you're watching America's number one streaming news keep streaming with ABC News live welcome back February is American Heart month a time when all people especially women are encouraged to focus on their cardiovascular health and our next guest is here to help us spread the word on this very important cause yeah how lucky are we she's a comedian a writer Emy nominated actress and Advocate who just last night walk the runw
ay okay okay Walk The Runway at the American Heart association's red dress collection concert and she is here to tell us all about it please welcome the very funny and talented Ivon ory good to see you I couldn't even finish my read I was like I mean you know Naomi not the only one that got a walk heard that so tell us about last night's event and why it was important for you to take part in it it was really amazing and know women came together obviously like you said um heart health is extremel
y important especially when we add not only layer of women but also the African-American community and disenfranchised uh communities it's like we have to spread awarners because you all know the rates they're high they're not great when it comes to if it's pre eclampsia if it's high blood pressure and you know I'm an immigrant my mom is uh we're I'm from Nigeria but you know growing up in my house my mom would always be like don't stress me my hyp and I'm like what is HP like I was like Hy it w
asn't until I grew up I was like oh she's saying hypertension okay but it was always that thing of like making sure I would watch my mom um like check her blood pressure just to make sure like her levels weren't high and so I think I grew up with that sense she was a nurse for 30 years I grew up with that sense of understanding like heart health and the importance of it and monitoring it um but a lot of people don't know and younger people now younger and younger and younger we see the the athle
tes the young people who are um having heart disease and it's just like uh we need to we need to figure F this out my mom was a nurse also and they are often times the worst patients as you and I know um but you know obviously heart disease number one killer of men and women most women hear that statistic and they think oh yeah no maybe I know that but not me that's not going to be me so a lot of times you have to have a personal kind of impetus for getting involved was there something personal
for you or why did you want to get involved absolutely yeah like I said my mom too was a nurse at Howard University for 30 years and so I always watched her but something really amazing happened cuz like you said it's like sometimes they're the worst patients but my mom I will say she Not only was a good patient but she was a good teacher so I didn't know unbeknown to me she had been teaching my dad like CPR or like knowing when to do CPR so my dad just turned 80 and he was hanging out with a fr
iend of his who was like 70 something years old he just recognized that he was slurring his words and his eyes started rolling behind and my dad who was 80 sprung into action and did CPR on his friend and saved life and saved his life and I was like Dad how did you even know to do that well your mother has been bothering me all of these years I was like Mom and of course in true my mom f she's like yeah well that's what I do you know I was like you're taking credit for this but it was it's those
things of like I was like how would you even know that that's when you do CPR because sometimes we think you know you watch bayw watch and you're like that's when you do CPR someone's drowning but it's like no heart health is important good for you ask you kind of what you're working on what's coming up next for youa detail well now that the strikes are over you know we can actually get back to work um I have a development deal with Sony so I'm very excited to develop some fun stuff I we option
ed a book so I'll be you know working on some writing working up some directing nice good comes to oh and in your in your spare time you could walk the catwalk oh yeah you know you did it so well I'm heading some Milan fashion weeks so I really am so you know we'll see we'll see what happens keep doing your thing and making us proud thank you baby and your mom too oh yes I know she she's going to take credit for this too I Tau how to say those well we are so grateful that we were able to have yo
u here with us today and you can go check out Go Red For Women online to get more information on risks warning signs and symptoms of heart disease and stroke it is so important and that is what you need to know for today I'm DeMarco Morgan I'm pilg and I'm Dr Jen Ashton for all of us here at gma3 and ABC news make it a great [Applause] one why do so many people start their day here from ABC News this is start here to be in the know and get a different take on the day's top stories a lot of news
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on County Georgia Courthouse I'm Reena Roy wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News live I'm K Whitworth here in Los Angeles and right now on ABC News live tensions building across the Middle East ahead of the expected us retaliation for that deadly drone strike on American forces what defense secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters today about America's response plus the new executive order from President Biden targeting Israeli settlers in the West Bank also the mothe
r of the Oxford High School shooter in Michigan testifying in her own defense her emotional statements on the stand and House Republicans pushing toward a vote to imp impeach Alejandra mayorcas over the crisis at the border I'll speak live with GOP Homeland Security Committee Member Congressman Anthony di bazito but we begin here today with the Pentagon preparing to retaliate for that deadly drone attack on US troops in Jordan in his first public remark since keeping his recent hospitalization a
secret defense secretary Lloyd Austin saying neither he nor President Biden will tolerate attacks on American forces we will take all necessary actions to defend the United States our interest and our people and we will respond when we choose where we choose and how we choose well meanwhile President Biden speaking with the family of 24-year-old Kennedy Sanders one of three US service members killed in that drone strike her parents overcome with aemotion were're promoting her poly to Sergeant o
h wow that is the best news I've heard today thank you so much you don't know how much that means to us well the White House now blaming the attack on an umbrella group of iran-backed militias the Islamic resistance in Iraq these are still images from videos that the group regularly posts online Iranian proxy also attacking US troops with increased frequency and attempting to control major shipping lanes in the Red Sea where two Navy Seals were also killed last month Christopher J chamers and Na
than Gage died while helping the US intercept Iranian made weapons headed to Yemen let's go now to ABC News foreign correspondent Marcus Moore live in Aman Jordan along with ABC News senior National policy reporter an flarey at the Pentagon so thank you both for being here with us and Marcus we're starting here with you look the US has been telegraphing its retaliation for days now but we're hearing that the leader of the one of the Iran back proxy groups has now ordered the evacuation of its he
adquarters in anticipation of a US strike what are you hearing there yeah that's right uh ABC News uh has obtained a letter uh from from the the commanding the chief commander of the popular mobilization Force this is a group that operates out of Iraq and it was uh ordering their uh their members to evacuate all of the headquarters and also to suspend uh any of their activities their training activities that they've been conducting um this is in advance of an anticipated or potential strike uh f
rom the US and retaliation for uh that strike on the base here in Jordan on Sunday that you were just reporting on but uh this does give you a sense of how this is being received across the region uh particularly among the groups that have been launching attacks on US troops for for some time now since the October 7th Terror attacks and uh in addition to that Kaa uh we're hearing that even among the everyday citizens in Iraq they are now concerned about these potential us strikes and what it cou
ld mean for the economy and their lives all all right Marcus and and to you threats and Strikes from these Iranian proxy groups have really not dissipated despite us deterrence efforts so what more do we know about today's three houthi related incidents yeah it doesn't seem to be letting up as you say that there are three separate in incidents today uh we had houthi fired missiles two of them aimed at a commercial ship thankfully they fell into the water without causing any injuries or damage to
the ship uh but all of this comes on the heels of the US launching attacks on 10 different Iranian link drones uh in the region overnight last night they also destroyed a ground control station so certain things seem to be certainly heating up in this region it has many people concerned and I think that's why you heard secretary Austin Austin say today that what we're really trying to do is degrade the capabilities of the houthis without causing more alarm in this area and without making things
worse a tall order that's for sure Marcus and Ann our thanks to both of you and also secretary Austin today addressing his failure to promptly notify the White House about his recent hospitalization and prostate cancer diagnosis Austin telling reporters that his diagnosis was quote a gut punch and that his first instinct was to keep it private acknowledging it was a mistake to hide it from the public and saying that he apologized directly to President Biden I should have told the president abou
t my cancer diagnosis I should have also told my team and the American public and I take full responsibility I apologize to my teammates and to the American people well Austin also called it a missed opportunity to send a public health message advising older men to get regular checkups and get screened for prostate cancer also now here today President Biden issuing an executive order imposing Financial punishments and Visa bans against Israeli settlers that are accused of attacking Palestinian c
ivilians in the West Bank the UN reports that it has recorded hundreds of settler attacks against Palestinians since hamas's deadly October 7th terror attack now Israel responding to the president's executive order saying the absolute majority of settlers are law-abiding citizens ABC News foreign correspondent James Longman has more from Tel Aviv yeah hi Kana quite an intervention from the White House placing sanctions on four settlers in the occupied West Bank for violence against Palestinians
they've had their assets Frozen they will now no longer be able to travel to the United States now it doesn't sound like much there's four people but actually this is quite a big deal this is unprecedented a US president has never done this this goes to the very heart of the issue in uh this part of the world competing claims to land the West Bank is the strip of land that the Palestinians envisage as their future state it is part of the two-state solution and there are some 500,000 Jewish settl
ers who live in the West Bank another 200,000 or so in occupied East Jerusalem so this is in many ways one of the massive issues that defines this entire conflict and for Palestinians to hear the US president uh and his administration saying this I think is massively welcome they have said the Palestinian Authority since the beginning of the war in Gaza 7th October when Hamas launched its attack that some 381 people have been killed in violence in uh the occupied West Bank but as you can imagine
the Prime Minister here Ben Benjamin Netanyahu has not welcomed this he said it's an unnecessary intervention from the United States he says that when there is violence it is dealt with and these people already go through the justice system uh so that is not something that uh pres prime minister Netanyahu will welcome from the United States but we do know at the same time they are working on this deal uh to get the hostages out every day we hear glimmers of hope uh from Kata who are the mediato
rs between uh Israel and Hamas that perhaps they're eeking their way towards this deal to get hostages out and to pause the fighting that is killed now according to the Hamas Health Ministry more than 27,000 people K James Longman our thanks to you also here today Jennifer Crumbley she's the mother of the Oxford Michigan school shooter took the stand today testifying in her own defense this is an unprecedented case Crumbley is facing four counts of involuntary manslaughter and prosecutors claim
that she and her husband neglected their son's needs and gave him access to the gun that he used in that 2021 shooting that killed four students at his high school her husband is being tried separately and this is the first time that parents in the United States have been charged in a mass shooting at a school and in her testimony today crumblyy talked about giving her son a gun as a gift take a listen we saw obviously your Facebook post um you describe it as your son's gift did he have free acc
ess to that gun no it it was for him to use at the shooting range only was he allowed to take it out not without my husband around did he know where it was kept my husband hid it usually in our bedroom in different spots okay what was the intention of hiding it that's just what you're supposed to do well joining us now is our ABC News legal contributor and managing partner with e Cochran firm shaa Lloyd uh shaa thank you so much for being here with us so first of all you know Jennifer also testi
fied today that she actually felt quote pretty concerned on the morning of the shooting when her son's counselor sent her a picture of his math worksheet it had disturbing drawings on it do you think that this kind of testimony is helping or perhaps hurting her case here well you know it's interesting she has to walk a very tight line when we look at the evidence on its face it would be very hard for her to say she wasn't concerned at all that would fall very flat with the jury so she has to ack
nowledge some level of concern yet distance herself from his actions so that's what we see her doing on the stand with this type of testimony yeah she actually went on to say I wish he would have killed us instead certainly a powerful moment there but but shaa what kind of precedent does this case set I mean she will be tried than her husband what would a conviction mean in terms of possible other future cases a precedent would be amazing in in something like this because what they're essentiall
y saying to parents everywhere is that you cannot turn a blind eye to your children's activities to their mental health State you are have a level of responsibility to get them help if you are concerned to immediately action any items that can be concerning especially when it comes to gun violence and schools all right Sha alloyd our thanks to you as always and coming up next here House GOP members moving forward to oust Homeland Security secretary Alejandra mayorcas over the crisis at the south
ern border I'll speak with a Republican member of the House committee on homeland security New York Congressman Anthony Diaz bazito who says the migrant crisis has become a National Emergency that's after the break whenever news breaks we are here in Israel a nation at war after that brutal surprise attack by Hamas on the ground in Ukraine reporting from Leon Maine the scene of a horrific mass shooting ABC News live is right there every from the scene of that deadly missile strike in Dena Ukrain
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the story is wherever the story is we're going to take you there you're streaming ABC News live ABC News live you're streaming ABC News live ABC news live streaming free everywhere America's number one streaming news I have a point of contact they're expecting us this our secret world we have do you think we're going to be safe I don't know this is my pen inside that pen is a slice of human brain these are assassinations of people are going to be murdered there's really no telling what some of t
hem will do I'm in in in oh my God it's happening everywhere and anywhere [Music] wow in mcac one of the biggest unclimbed rock faces on the planet now I'm starting to get very excited if we manage to climb in CAC it'll be the biggest first desent we've ever done so scary ultimately what's at stake with climbing this is not what I signed up for it's always your [Music] life and welcome back Republican house Speaker Mike Johnson vowing to move swiftly toward a vote on impeachment articles against
Homeland Security secretary Alejandra mayorcas the house Homeland Security committee advancing those two impeachment articles this week accusing mayorcas of willful and systemic refusal to comply with our nation's immigration laws but GOP lawmakers have yet to offer evidence mayorcas has committed High crimes or misdemeanors which is the legal standard for impeachment and yesterday I spoke with Democratic Homeland Security Committee Member Congressman Seth magaziner of Rhode Island about Republ
icans push to OU mayorcas and here's what he said House Republicans have been wasting ing time and wasting taxpayer money trying to impeach someone uh when there is absolutely no evidence that the secretary has committed High crimes or misdemeanors or any other impeachable offense so what I urge my Republican colleagues to do is stop playing political games let's work together to actually solve our problems so joining us today is a republican member of the homeland security committee Anthony D p
izo of New York so Congressman thank you so much for joining us and first I'd love to give you an opportunity to respond to what your Democratic colleague said and asking here are Republicans playing games if it's almost certain that this push to impeach secretary myus is going to die in the Senate is this a distraction to achieving actual legislation I don't think it's a distraction at all I think it's exactly what much of the American people are looking for quite frankly you know House Republi
cans sent hr2 over to the Senate uh back in May and and I've been one of those individuals who said that hr2 perhaps wasn't perfect but it was an opportunity for us to start negotiations to have conversations with the Senate on how to secure our border and at that time uh Democrats across the aisle my my good friends across the aisle had said that well one the Border was Secure number two that we had operational control and number three that uh we were fearmongering and now uh it seems that the
tides have changed and that they're actually admitting that there is a problem at the southern border and now they're claiming that we are only trying to impeach secretary mayor is because it's based on policy and that we want the policy to change and they've actually admitted and said well maybe the policy should change so I think the Democrats are having trouble sticking to uh the same uh record of of one another and and what they're seeing now is that you know it's an election year uh the big
gest issue that's facing the American people that's at the the front of the minds of everyone is the border and immigration and when they look at poll numbers for President Biden I mean his approval rating is upside down and his poll numbers are in the dumpster and a lot of that has to do with the border so I think that now they're trying to embrace well we should do something and and they they talk about this bipartisan U approach that's supposedly coming from the Senate we we haven't had speci
fics yet but we've heard that I I mean they're they're agreeing to letting another 1.5 million people across our Southern border as part of the deal I don't look at that as a deal I look at that as a surrender let's talk a little bit more about this this bill on the Senate side these negotiations right they've been going on for about four months now over this National Security Supplemental that you referen and Republican senator James Langford noted today that this supplemental does include what
he called brand new border emergency Authority it's called 235b and he says it addresses both non-custodial and expediated removal are any of those two topics things that it would be do you think those two topics are something that would be enough for Republicans to get behind this I think we'll have to really see the details you know I I think that they're sending out talking points uh in hopes that uh people engage and and are interested and and I am interested I'm willing to work on both sid
es of the aisle to try to figure this out but it just it's it's quite mindboggling that what we've seen over the last four or five months is a complete change in going from everything is great there's no problem at the border to now well let's work together because we have a problem at the border we've been trying to work on this since May uh our investigation at the secretary me orcus has been going on now for for 13 months and we've you know as someone especially who's come from a career in th
e NYPD most of it as an investigator this investigation at the Secretary of May orcus is one that I'm proud of it was thorough it was comprehensive it wasn't rushed and we went through five phases of where mayorcas has failed the American people uh the willful and systemic refusal to comply with the law the breach of the public trust the fact that he uh hasn't complied with his oath um this was an investigation and it was done the right way and that's why it's mov mov forward and I I also want t
o get your take on Trump here before you go so saying that he can do better if he takes office do you think that the country can wait that long if he takes office or is it a distraction for actually getting something through Congress I I don't think we can wait I think that uh we're at a point where the country throughout this country we have spent $451 billion with a be on this migrant crisis I mean right here in in New York City we're looking at upwards of2 billion doar uh going to the migrant
crisis you know the the mayor has proposed cutting All City agencies by nearly 15% just to to pay for the crisis um here in the city of New York and he he is flat out it's a Democrat who has said this issue is going to destroy New York city so no I don't think we can wait I think we need uh to put our heads together and come up with a plan but you know the Democrats can't keep their head in the sand and say that everything is great and and try to change their tune um there's a real issue here a
nd and the issue is is that the Border was Secure and we we need uh to focus on the fact that um immigration and border security are two different things yes they work parallel and yes we need to work on them both in order to secure our border but right now we need to we we need border security we need to make sure that the people that are coming into this country are not on the terror watch list we need to find out those Millions upon millions of Goda ways that we don't know about about what th
ey're doing and where they're at I think we need to take a time out we need to realize that uh we need to provide the resources along our Southern border and and really take the Handcuff so to speak off the Customs and Border Patrol agents and allow them to do the job and and live out the oath that they that they swore to Republican Congressman Anthony Diaz bazito I really appreciate your time and your perspective today thank you so much for joining us and coming up next here we are celebrating
Black History Month now break dancing it exploded from the streets of New York City to the Olympic debut at The Summer's par Paris games we'll talk about that [Applause] [Music] next Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shutter a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what do with that and then a silver minivan pulls up oh he reaching for the I jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goose
bumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC tomorrow morning wake up with Usher it's going to be a great show what will he reveal about his new music and his epic halftime show plus she just got nominated for an Oscar so what's Annette Benning doing next she's coming to GMA live tomorrow on Good Morning America tonight the US plan to strike back for the deaths of three American soldiers plus the dangerous storms saturating the West more Americans turn to the most watch newsca
st on television World News Tonight with David mure why do so many people start their day here from ABC News this is start here to be in the know and get a different take on the day's top stories a lot of news today so let's get into it listen now to the Daily News podcast honored with four Edward R murl Awards and see why the New York Times calls it a news podcast worth listening to start here ABC News make it your daily first listen now that's a part of the story that you didn't see coming whe
rever you get your podcasts start here from America's number one news source comes the allnew ABC News app breaking news Incredible video faster smarter and it can customize to you and your interests if you love being in the know you're going to love this experience what all the buzz is about experence the allnew ABC News app download it now traveling with President Biden in Ireland I'm Karen Travers wherever the story is we'll take you there you're streaming ABC News [Music] live and welcome ba
ck to ABC News live we are kicking off Black History Month today by celebrating the history of break dancing or breaking if you will it went mainstream some 40 years ago and now it's making its debut as an Olympic sport gma3 anchor DeMarco Morgan has more on the evolution of break dancing born and bred in the Bronx breaking or break dancing is one of the pillars of hip-hop in the 70s this new style of dance was booming in New York City's predominantly Black and Hispanic communities sh Tony Mr wa
ve Wesley is one of breaking's pioneers actually I started watching it in the 70s when I saw Michael Jackson doing the robot and dance the dancing machine Tony remembers when breaking exploded on some of the city's toughest streets Webster projects was a very very dangerous project but when they played the music and they brought out their speakers it was just calm everybody was drawn to the music legendary crew like The Rock Steady Crew Dynamic rockers and Tony's crew the New York City Breakers
helped breaking become big in 1984 and hit films like breaking that's good and beat street what I learned to do is not just wave but I learned to wave and vibrate at the same time and then I just go all the way down and come all the way back up today B boys and B girls are breaking all over the world I can tell you this about breaking the reason why it is global and in every city every just about every country you don't need money you don't need to buy microphones what you need is willpower unde
rstanding of the dance and discipline and this August B boys and be girls will be going for the gold when breaking makes its debut on the biggest stage of them all the Olympics in Paris this is Major for breaking and Hip-Hop in general because coming from nothing to to being on a huge stage like the Olympics is like nobody could expect it one of the leading hopefuls to make team USA's Olympic Squad Jeffrey Lewis AKA B boy jeffro Olympics was never on my mind when I started breaking I started bre
aking Just For the Love of it and the freedom of movement for jeffro being a b boy is more than just head spins and jawdropping move it's one of those Sports where there's a lot of culture involved so you have to learn the cultural side of things too and for Tony watching young breakers like Jeff BR he says breaking's in good hands there you go oh we had a whole lot of flavor and that respect is mutual he's so fluid in it like he looks like water that's pretty crazy he's the only one that's that
's styled out Tony has this message for Team USA I would tell them absorb the moment understand where you at and why and take a step back and gain insight and then take that insight and help the youth in Breaking we have a model that's called Each one teach one so what was given to me I'm giving back to others and hopefully they give it back to the [Applause] next oh DeMarco Morgan our thanks to you we are definitely looking forward to break dancing making its official Olympic debut at the Paris
games later this summer we have a lot more news ahead here on ABC News live in today's big story defense secretary Lloyd Austin vowing to take all necessary steps to defend us interests as the Pentagon prepares to retaliate for the deadly strike on American forces in Jordan what we're learning about the Drone used in that attack and the potential timing of our nation's response also in our Spotlight the Biden Administration begins Medicare drug price negotiations our panel weighs in on the push
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tall now streaming on Hulu Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a series of apparently unconnected crimes another mother gunned down oh my gosh what you you do and then a silver minivan pulls up and he reaching for the gun and jumped out of the car I'm the one that got away the murderer in the minivan I get goosebumps to think what they found all new 2020 Friday night on ABC first thing in the morning there's a lot going on get another Avalanche warning that's
up to catch you up with what happened overnight a dangerous ice storm is impacting the morning commute what's happening today escalating tensions in the Middle East what people are talking about the migrant crisis fast straightforward with some fun in between how does billionaire sound sounds good to me the Moose started chasing a dog first thing in the morning America this morning America's number one early morning news on ABC News live why do so many people start their day here from ABC News t
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n every Saturday on ABC News live my favorite show you're watching America's number one streaming news live reporting breaking new exclusives keep streaming with ABC News live new details on the deadly drone attack on US forces in Jordan as the US prepares to retaliate against iran-backed militants I'm Kana Whitworth here in Los Angeles and that's today's big story secretary Lloyd Austin today saying neither he nor President Biden will tolerate the attacks on American troops what we're learning
about the Drone used in the strike on US forces and the potential timing of our nation's response also in our Spotlight the Biden Administration begins Medicare drug price negotiations are panel weighs in on the push to lower health care costs for tens of millions of [Music] Americans now we begin here with our big story The Pentagon preparing to retaliate for that drone attack that killed three US service members in Jordan defense secretary Lloyd Austin today speaking about the need for a respo
nse in his first public remarks since keeping his recent hospitalization a secret we will take all necessary actions to defend the United States our interest and our people and we will respond when we choose where we choose and how we choose well the White House Now blaming the attack on an umbrella group of iran-backed mil militias uh the Islamic resistance in Iraq that's the name and what you're looking at right there on your screen are still images from videos that the group regularly posts o
nline Iranian proxy also attacking us groups with increased frequency in attempting to control major shipping lanes in the Red Sea where two Navy Seals were also killed last month joining us now is our ABC News National sec security and defense analyst Mick mroy from Tel Aviv where he's been meeting with us officials so Mick thank you so much for being here and let's start with this drone uh we've learned here today that the Drone that you know was part of this deadly attack uh was Iranian made
and so it's also the same kind of drone that is being used by Russia in Ukraine and now that we have that information what does that say to you about concerns of a wider conflict and Bad actors all throughout the region K of the first thing it says to me is that it's not just Iran supplying weapons uh randomly to these groups as as a sale so to speak but they're providing specific weapons that can attack our bases they use them to attack our bases and they continue to supply them so that to me m
akes Ron Iran complicit in these attacks these are their proxies they are they're using them to to basically attack the United States something they don't want to do directly because they don't want the consequences direct directly but we will likely see the proxy forces get the consequences and potentially these irgc CS Force officers the Iranian officers that are embedded with these proxy proxies may also see the consequences of these actions but something needs to change to get Iran to redis
uh relook at their support for these groups and stop uh sending these type of drones which are very deadly both uh in Syria and Iraq but as you point out in Ukraine where they are us all the time and it's one of the most favorite weapons that the Russians are using because they're very low and also Mick you know our Martha radit says that any retaliation from the US would likely not include striking in Iran for Fears of a larger regional conflict but Mick it's been almost a week since that deadl
y drone attack so what do you anticipate in terms of timing on retaliation and does the US need to consider moving more quickly here so I definitely have advocated for moving uh more quickly because I think this has and maybe that was the intent was allowing a lot of the Iranian personnel there to move themselves and their assets out of these identified now publicly reported to targets I think uh perhaps it was to reduce the uh potential for Iranian casualties but it certainly has given them the
the ample amount of time to do so part of it is the weather I'm out here in the region as you mentioned and it has been raining almost non-stop since I've been here uh so that could have also added to it but I do think if I was advoca I would have I would have pushed to do it more quickly so that the Iranians would have more consequences but of course we the United States are trying to balance responding to these deadly attacks against our brave Soldiers uh but also balance that with not creati
ng an escalatory uh response which could lead to a direct conflict between us and Iran and that is why I think to your point we don't think there's going to be targets struck inside Iran but that doesn't mean Iranians couldn't be uh couldn't be killed in these in these responses right and also uh Mick earlier today uh defense secretary Lloyd Austin said quote I don't think the adversaries have a oneandone mindset and so they have a lot of capability and then he ended that Mick by saying I have a
lot more but does the US have intelligence that perhaps more attacks could be coming I I assume that we do and I assume just personally that they will keep coming uh they made a statement this K hez KH as we call them uh they said okay we're going to stand down right now because they know the consequences are coming and because they killed some of our service members uh but I think they will of course after some time go back to attacking us so I think what the US wants to do is take all the opp
ortunities to hit the supply lines to hit the storage facilities to hit the launching fac uh areas and to hit the Personnel that uh that fires these weapon systems and knows how to use them I think that's going to be why this is a phased uh response that'll happen over many days because I think they're going to try to take all opportunities to eliminate if they can or at least significantly degrade uh the system in place that are used to attack our bases in Syria Iraq and now even Jordan certain
ly have to do something more than deterrence uh also Mick uh you have been concerned about the northern front opening up between Israel and Lebanon our own James Longman watched as the IDF carried out what he described as unusual military exercise at the Lebanese border and what might be preparations for a conflict there with Hezbollah what do you know right now so uh talking to of course uh people out here in the region it's it's more clear to them although I don't think they would like to see
it of course it would be significantly uh degrading to their economy that it's almost inevitable right now there's around 70,000 Israelis it had to be pulled off the Border uh the lebanes border because of Hezbollah which is in violation of UN resolution 1701 they're still in in hotels quite frankly and the Israelis will not send them back until they shove Hezbollah by force if necessary back to the uh the Lani river which is where they're supposed to be so I think there is a potential that that
will happen something the United States was definitely not wanting to see happen and I don't think either Lebanon or Israel would like to see it happen but it does seem to be moving in that direction that would significantly expand this war and could draw the United States in to at least assist uh the IDF as then they would be in two significant uh combat situations with the northern front being then the most significant because Hezbollah has way more capabilities than Hamas had even at the beg
inning of the conflict in Gaza they have they have considerable uh Precision guided Munitions that could really do damage to Israel all right Mick mroy thank you so much much for your analysis we appreciate it and I want to bring our big story now to our panel so joining us today is our ABC News contributor and Sirius XM radio host Mike Muse our ABC News contributor and former Republican congressman John cacco and Democratic strategist alencia Johnson as well as our ABC News senior National poli
cy reporter an flarity at the Pentagon so thank you all for being here so an let's jump right into some of this reporting that we're getting into ABC news today from Martha rits saying that things are tense at the White House in regards to these retaliatory strikes here so what more can you tell us about that yeah that's right so she's been speaking with uh officials who say that the Pentagon advisers that President Biden's top military advisers have been pushing for this idea of multiple strike
s multiple countries sending a substantial message uh to these iran-backed militants that the US means business of course some AIDS in the White House agreeing but others being very concerned that these retaliatory attacks will escalate tensions in the region they say that they're watching two clocks one is wanting to get these hostages out of Gaza two is when is the US going to strike they don't want the latter to influence that those hostage negotiations everything is just extremely tense righ
t now Kan and you know in the meantime essentially the US has been telegraphing this retaliatory strike so John in anticipation of that are you seeing any shifts in behavior from some of these Bad actors in the Middle East well it does seem like they're trying to tone it down just a bit just a bit um you hear rhetoric uh signals from Iran they're telling the groups that if the if uh the US uh retaliates against those groups not to respond and all of a sudden you're hearing more and more discussi
on about a potential ceasefire with moss and possible hostages negotiations catching C gaining steam I think all this is because they may have finally concluded that they finally crossed the line that even this Administration which isn't real strong uh is is said as enough's enough they know what's coming so uh I do think there's little hesitancy on Iran's part right now and that red line that we've been talking about so much for months now alencia to you you know earlier today the White House a
nnounced four Israeli settlers would be sanctioned today for attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank is the White House talking about the wrong thing right now when you have some very damning allegations about a un Affiliated Aid group and their involvement in the October 7th attacks I don't think the White House is talking about the wrong thing I think you're seeing the White House in real time in public grappling with multiple things being true at the same time in the Middle East they do not
want an escalation as all of us have agreed to on this panel no one wants an escalation and this tension in the Middle East but they also have to have this conversation around what's happening to the Palestinian people particularly as the Democratic base is overwhelmingly in support of a ceased fire and how does the Biden Administration talk about that as well as still support their Ally in the Middle East but also show that they have some very real concerns about the way in which the Israeli go
vernment is handling the situation in Gaza so you see them talking about multiple things at the same time which can be confusing to a lot of us but they're trying to do the best as they can talking about multiple multiple things at the same time he's also running for president again Mike what is your take on these sanctions as President Biden heads to Michigan for some campaign stops yes absolutely I think that President Biden has been listening to hit the base of a large part of his base of the
democratic party uh in particular as he is looking to win the state of Michigan which is a Battleground State it's a state that he won only by 150,000 votes a large percentage of the democratic voters that went Biden's way are Arab Americans uh and the Arab Americans are extremely frustrated on how has handled um the situation between Israel and Hamas they feel like he has not come out in support of a ceasefire um and it is beginning to become hardened their views on him to where they're becomi
ng more neutral on taking the position in their support of President Biden and so I think it's very important uh that he uh has done that today as particular as he does a campaign stop to avoid the protest which isn't good for visuals all right Mike John alcian and our thanks to all of you and coming up next next here it could be a game Cher for the over 65 million Americans on Medicare for the first time the federal government negotiating with big Pharma to lower prescription drug prices that's
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he New York Times calls it a news podcast worth listening to start here ABC News make it your daily first listen now that's a part of the story I bet you didn't see coming wherever you get your podcasts start [Music] here Americans today pay two or three times more than they probably should for those prescriptions drugs that folks around the world are paying so much less for well that was US Secretary of Health and Human Services Xavier Basera speaking on this morning's exorbitant prescription d
rug prices on the ABC News start here podcast that interview comes as the Biden Administration launches Medicare drug price negotiations with big Pharma drug makers to help people access these desperately needed drugs at a lower cost for the first time in history the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services sent initial offers to drug makers that make 10 prescription drugs widely used by older Americans so let's bring back our panel here Mike John alenia and joining us as our ABC News medical
contributor Dr Alo Patel so thank you all for being here and Dr Patel let's start here with you what could the real time impact be here for patients who need these prescriptions and they can cost for some people I mean thousands of dollars a year they absolutely can and we have the data Canada to show us that there are many patients out there up to 20% of senior citizens who openly say that they don't take medications as advised maybe they're not taking as many doses or they're skipping medicati
ons because of the cost now in terms of this actual price negotiation showing a net impact on these patients it may be a couple years but it's extremely important that we're starting the conversations and there is some transparency according to the Congressional budget office this could potentially save Medicare hundred billion dollars over 10 years it remains to be seen how much of that will go towards patient savings but this is definitely the right step forward when it comes to preventing ser
ious disease such as heart disease kidney disease diabetes and taking care of Strokes which some of these medications on that list you just showed absolutely do and John to you I mean several drug makers though have called this unconstitutional and to your point John I mean the US has the best drugs available really in the world but there is a cost to that so are you concerned yeah I'm concerned listen uh absolutely we are paying the freight for the rest of the world's lower D drug prices that's
just a fact and we need to help seniors but let's let's be realistic here if we start uh uh paying the drug companies less less drugs are going to be researched and less Dr cures are going to be out there so in in conjunction with lowering the prices we need to put pressure on the drug companies to charge more to other countries to level the playing field so they can still continue to have the revenue to do the research nine out of every 10 drugs that a research fail at a billion dollars a so i
t costs him a tremendous amount of money it's like a baseball player that's batting 50 or or 10% he gets a hit 10% of the time you know it's it's an awful lot of money so we need to level the playing field and force other countries to pay their fair share yeah I mean and we're certainly entering Uncharted Territory here and alencia to you this apparently is just sort of the tip of the iceberg when it in terms of what the Biden Administration would like to do here because this idea right now woul
d go into effect in 2026 but then then by 2027 2028 they'd like to have 30 more drugs on the table here to talk about yeah look it's something that the Biden Administration wants to make sure they're communicating to people because listen the reality is medical debt tends to be a top reason that a majority a lot of Americans go into bankruptcy and so this is a very real issue that seniors as well as there are young people with disabilities who are on Medicare they will feel this impact and so th
is is something that I think the Biden Administration needs to continue to talk about and educate people on because it will be the difference for them in their pocketbook issues that they care about yeah and Mike Dr Patel mentioned it the Congressional budget office says that this program is expected to save Medicare nearly a hundred billion dollar over 10 years how do we ensure that that savings really is passed on to the consumer I think you had to hold them accountable but K the reason why I'
m smiling so big right now is because I'm excited for this uh elected officials and presidents who sit in that Oval Office are always afraid to go after big Pharma uh they're one of the largest lobbyist organizations that are in DC and so the mere fact that they are now getting them to negotiate deals on prescription JS this is huge I was just having a conversation uh this week with some friends of mine from Canada and we were just comparing our medical care bill bills which you already know wha
t I'm going to say which is pretty much none for them and so there was this frustration from all of us who were here in America that of of our medical system and I think this is the first step we have a long way to go to reforming Healthcare to make it more affordable uh for the average American and so for this I'm actually excited for and Dr Patel do you want to respond to that I mean I do think that yeah is this money is that what you're saying that's that's snapping that's snapping for the fo
r the hype of this ah I like it I like it so yeah but I mean can you elaborate on what Mike's Point is there that it is a huge step in this country to even be here to even have these negotiations it really is even to have the transparency of this negotiations because right now you do have the pharmaceutical industry and the lobby is saying hey this might impact research and development you have patients every single day asking why can we not afford medications why is it that if we go overseas we
can get the exact same medications for cheaper and it's really important that we have transparency so people understand this there's another question that's coming up right now that we've already heard is why is it that other federally funded programs f feder backed programs such as with the Department of Defense or the VA and the private insurance company why are they able to negotiate drug prices but Medicare can't and so even having this conversation I think would give a lot of people some s
upport knowing that we're doing what we can to lower Healthcare prices this going be absolutely gameer I think it would make it oh no Mike lay it on me sorry Kan I was gonna say I think it I said I think it actually make it more hawkish to borrow a word from our previous segment about diplomacy to what John is saying I think that will actually Force the Farm School companies to force them to raise a price on these other countries that pretty much have Universal to free healthare and so I think J
ohn that is how we can balance it out to make Americans more affordable and then raise the prices for them all right I'm going to leave it to you once again to figure it out that's right head on to Congress y'all Mike John alenia and Dr Patel our thanks to all of you and coming up in our last call Bad Blood between Tik Tok and Warner Music why social media users will have to watch some of their favorite creators in silence Friday a stalker hunting women makes me shudder a young mother vanishes a
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the social media platform the dispute center around artist pay generative Ai and Online safety Tik Tok however accuses Universal of promoting false narratives and rhetoric and putting greed above the interest of their artists and songwriters Universal Music Group represents big artists like Taylor Swift Olivia Rodrigo and Drake and users looking to replace the removed tracks will have to select alternative options from other music labels all right so our panel is back to discuss and so Mike firs
t and foremost what are the repercussions do you think you might see here listen I think that what Universal music group is doing is they are laying it down and they're basically are saying if you Tik Tock you want to be a radio station you've got to start paying us in this regard you can't keep using our music for free uh for your users to discover new music because that's where we are now Tik Tok is basically radio this is where you go discover new music uh and new singles but K I'm really int
erested to see what Universal music group is doing uh just a few moments ago this morning they made a big announcement where it's a major shakeup right now where two individuals are now going to oversee their entire portfolios of record labels so this is a really good place for us to be watching is what Universal Music Group has planned I think there's going to be some more surprises up Universal Music Group they have something we just don't know about oh that's so interesting Mike I love the ra
dio perspective too and John you know we're talking about a huge move here from one of the world's biggest music companies one of the core features on Tik Tok let's users create and share their videos using licensed music and other sounds
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