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MAGA ‘racist’ or not? See the shocking viral video in Ari Melber’s Joyner Lucas breakdown

Rapper Joyner Lucas joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber for a Beat “Fallback” installment to discuss his song “I’m not racist” and new album “Not Now I’m Busy.” The Nation’s Joan Walsh also joins. (Check out The Beat's playlist: https://msnbc.com/ari Connect with Ari Melber: https://www.instagram.com/arimelber) » Subscribe to MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/msnbc Follow MSNBC Show Blogs MaddowBlog: https://www.msnbc.com/maddowblog ReidOut Blog: https://www.msnbc.com/reidoutblog MSNBC delivers breaking news, in-depth analysis of politics headlines, as well as commentary and informed perspectives. Find video clips and segments from The Rachel Maddow Show, Morning Joe, The Beat with Ari Melber, Deadline: White House, The ReidOut, All In, Last Word, 11th Hour, and Alex Wagner who brings her breadth of reporting experience to MSNBC primetime. Watch “Alex Wagner Tonight” Tuesday through Friday at 9pm Eastern. Connect with MSNBC Online Visit msnbc.com: https://www.msnbc.com/ Subscribe to the MSNBC Daily Newsletter: https://link.msnbc.com/join/5ck/msnbc-daily-signup Find MSNBC on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/msnbc/ Follow MSNBC on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MSNBC Follow MSNBC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msnbc MAGA ‘racist’ or not? See the shocking viral video in Ari Melber’s Joyner Lucas breakdown #Trump #Politics #JoynerLucas

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the skilled Lyricist Joiner Lucas wrapping both sides of a kind of Maga debate showing the Prospect and maybe the limits of dialogue so about to show you a little bit of this music video it features joiner's voice as he narrates two opposing views so reflected out of the mouths of two different actors here first as it is in the song comes the so-called magde blame it all on the menu blame it on nose drinks blame it on everybody except for your own race blame it on white just blaming on white kid
s and just blaming no White Citizens a at the vice president watch your class clowns how dare you try to make demands for this money you going to show us some respect you going to stand for this country I'm not racist I'm just prepared for this type of War quote I'm not racist I'm just prepared for this type of war end quote and then in this music video we hear the same voice of the artist inhabiting a different perspective and even know but was half as black you hated President Obama I know tha
t's a fact you can't wait to get him out and put a cracker back and then you gave us Donald Trump and I was paid back for that I'm not racist I never lied but I know there's a disconnect between your culture and mine and all you care about is money and power and being ugly and that's the cracker within you hatred all in your brain and slowly start to convince you then you teach it to your children until the cycle continue blame it on Puerto Rico blame it on OJ blame it on everybody except for yo
ur own R blame it on everybody except your your own race quote end quote you can see there in the art life reflected or maybe the art challenging us to think a little bit deeper about the lives we want to live together as for Joiner Lucas he's known for a wide breath in his art from incisive commentary like that to hit collabs with logic jcole Eminem and many more he's got four albums he's gotten two Grammy nominations he's the co-founder of Tully a Music Creation platform for artists this upcom
ing album now not now I'm busy available for pre-sale what were showing in that dialogue in that powerful video which it might be new to some viewers but it's got hundreds of millions of views and listens I think I was just trying to force uh uncomfortable conversation uh amongst two parties where we can sit down and you know we can tell each other how we feel and then you know hug it out in the end versus it being you know a different story which is what usually happens when those conversations
are had what did it mean to you to both inhabit as an artist those perspective Ives and then have as we just saw this red hat white American magga man but he was speaking in your voice but then your voice was using words that might not be okay for him to use but what were you doing with all that what did you want us to take from that I feel like I was honestly those records um the storytelling perspective records I think come from you know uh a higher power I think that I'm actually channeling
through something greater than me that's allowing me to you know pend them type of records and get those conversations going you know I've never I've never you know been racist but I've I've been able to tap into you know uh the mind of somebody who is racist in order to create that yeah you I have a weird question for you and then bring Joan in in doing that work like trying to like whatever you do to create that did you at any point feel somehow closer to or empathetic with what that character
was doing yeah of course of course you know and I've experienced racism you know what I'm saying like I've it so you know doing the other part was a little was a little bit more easier to do but the beginning part but doing the Maga part was harder at first was a little bit harder at first but um again I feel like it was you know I'm I was channeling something you know greater than me to be able to you know to you know write that record and and a lot of other records that I write that have twoo
s side perspective stories yeah I think it's really important and I think there there was a kind of empathy there that you know I as a white person don't necessarily feel toward towards those attitudes um but in a way you've had to deal you know you've had to deal with it all your life uh I thought that the line about you know getting rid of President Obama and I mean I just always think that Trump is their their Payback right for Obama and just LED it so directly uh from Obama to Trump it's tra
gic but I don't I don't think a lot of white people think about it that way so I I was I was glad to see that there too I agree with you yeah why is it so important for everyone to say I'm not racist I mean I hear that we hear that a lot right um I think I think I think a lot of um are you talking about racist people or just people in general I mean I hear a lot from people who let me say it as as charitably as I hear from people who are espousing views positions and candidates who are anti-il r
ights right and it's very important the beginning and end for them to say I'm not raised like the I saw the first time I saw this video I kind of laughed yeah and then I was like wait there's in here I rewatched it you know what I'm saying yeah but in in speaking in you know to that specifically in the song it's like you know I double down and emphasize on you know I'm not racist my sister-in-law's baby cousin Tracy got a brother and his girlfriend it seems like it seems like the a lot of people
that are racist always have a black friend or a black relative or a black family member created a black person and they have to somehow justify that they know somebody that's black and they're you know what I mean so that protects them that means they can't racist because yeah yeah and it's deep because one of the achievements of the civil rights movement in America is that even people holding certain views or advocating certain policies still won't come back the other way around like they won'
t at a at at least at a verbal level be 1950 right and say they're Pro segregation that's people say they're they are racist in that way they so they're in denial of it that's how that's how bad it is to be accused of racism absolutely that's right people people think it's worse to be called racist than to be racist you know the ultimate in insult uh we got you know our fallbacks but since I have you here and we're getting into it all I want to show a little more of the other stuff cuz it's not
all like that although that's really interesting um but with your new project coming up here's a little more Joiner [Music] Lucas got dressed to head out and ride at school on my skateboard new kid in class I sat alone taking notes while the h we making jokes we've been rocking with each other for so long yeah maybe that's why it's been harder to move on yeah you like AUM I know you ain't saying any names but I got a feeling you talking to me I hate when these demons get in on my soul I feel lik
e I'm caught in the Beast what comes to mind as you look at the record and tell us about the new project That's crazy cuz I don't once I release a music video or a song I'd never go back and listen to it again yeah really yeah and once it's gone it's gone and it's like because I spent so much time writing in and I spend so much time um you know crafting a lot of the production you hear on that and you know directing the music videos and then editing it and you have to listen to it thousands and
thousands times and once it's gone it's like Yeah and I don't want to hear it again um so first and foremost thank you you know for going through that respect I'm just like wow like I forgot that I sometimes I forget that I've done all that yeah um but you asked me what it feel to with a new project and you you know what you're doing next and and go ahead yeah um so the name of the album is called not now I'm busy and um you know I think that you know in this project um it really just it tells t
he story of you know where I'm at in my life at this point you know what I mean and um you know just juggling a lot of different things and you know having to prioritize different things being busy and there's also a double meaning um people listen to the album It's all about like um it's all about growing I would say it's all about it's all about uh it's all about growing and and uh gaining A New Perspective

Comments

@Bluenami-Future

Worcester stand up! — out here in Massachusetts we know who maga is… because we know racist is, as racist does. Thank you Joyner 🙏

@user-M43nk521

Asking if MAGA is racist is like asking if Steve Bannon needs a new liver.

@elainecunningham8154

These are the conversations we need to have, Now we need the solution.

@hyena280

The lyric about not having been a slave but his grandma was, and that kind of gets to him - that hits me. I'm not black, it's not my experience, but one of my past partners - his grandma was a slave and it just killed me talking to her and his senior auntie.

@Teddy.Nuggets.

Rejected by 30 institutions. What happened to the art of the deal?

@elisamartinelli7676

I love songs that have meaning like this and so well said about the mentality of the far maga right.

@gidgyb1359

Dear MSNBC, please exchange all of that dead time after your videos for showing complete interviews. I would much rather have listened to everything this gentleman had to say!

@MrGenosfly

Click on every trump add you see of him begging for money. Make him go broke paying for clicks.

@mac888spectral7

Marjorie Trailer Park Green just filed a motion to remove Tiny Johnson. Love when slime fights slime 😂

@ChristinaRoDyk

You know you're good, when you've never had to say "I'm not racist" ....let alone try to convince anyone you're not racist, with the "I have a black friend" line.

@DogTheBounyHunterOrMTG.

Every building with a gold TRUMP sign is a crime scene by definition.

@clintmoriss21

His breakdown of the rump shaker video by wreckx-n-effect was better 🎷

@danielsaizrosegrowsinstone1524

Who is the greatest threat to the life of a “black man”? A “black man” in fact! But, those justice department statistics prove the same for all “races”. Yet, only a “racist” identifies themselves (first) by the ideal that the color of a persons flesh, or their nationality, or ethnicity, etc is a “race”, when “racism” is defined as: the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. "theories of racism" No “racist” truly sees themselves as A “racist” because they do not see how their own ideals of “race” prejudices their own self!

@adamarket

I appreciate the notion of sitting down and hugging it out, but that's not going to happen until the divisive figure at the center of it all is gone one way or another. This is going to the End Game.

@Inmate.Karen.

Any loss for trump and those who support him is a win for justice and democracy!

@Sotopnotchguy

I LOVE how Ari Melber is so intrigued and impressed by Music artists using their craft to elucidate contemporary social issues and creatively elicit unique perspectives on discussing aforementioned issues. 👏👏 He's okay in my book!

@christopherpierre816

Being the product of an interracial relationship, I find alot of value in seeing the world through a murky puddle. I understand the value on both sides of the tracks, but the christian in me still tries to walk the tightrope of hope for togetherness

@frederickhollins4854

Massachusetts stand up!!! ❤❤❤ So proud of Joyner Lucas!

@unnisynnvesommereng8232

Wow So good 💙 from Norway