REAL Horror Stories & Their Tantra-Based Solutions | Kapil Kumar Bhaskar | The Ranveer Show 385

so there is an encounter happened to me with a spirit you mean an entity yes she told me the exact date and year I visited mahakaleshwar Mand inen aen and she pulled my hand and she said do these entities also have sexuality yes I'm helping these days also then I suddenly saw a women appearing from it from the black cloud yes and the woman looked at him and said I'll take him and I'll take you along with him in one night you finished 10 lakh 25,000 jobs yes we can do in one second how you've bee

n an aori sad I know like how to do aori sadas without getting into the places I don't have to go to Sham Shan I can create here there I went to the casino thing became so worse there you know like wherever I was keeping the money I was winning you were able to hack the gam yes yes you became obsessed with celibacy if I had a little wrong thought about anyone I to like the man just and burn my thighs I to punish myself I think this is the first time in the history of TRS where we've shot an epis

ode over the span of two to three months we shot this episode in two parts because being in the presence of couple Kumar basar was a little overwhelming for me the first time around I felt like I wasn't able to extract his story the way I wanted to it was too heavy a conversation which is why we had to split it into these two episodes that you're getting within this one episode so in the first part it's about the beginnings of a story and the second part is the continuation from that point onwar

ds it's not an easy lesson it's very much in the domain of the horror podcast that we've created on TRS I warn you before you begin listening to this one it's not a very comfortable Liston but if you're someone who's enjoyed the horror episodes of TRS you will enjoy this episode as well it's Kumar basar making his debut on [Music] TRS Kap Kumar basar sir welcome to the r show thank you so much how are you sir good how are you um I am in a place in life today I've just submitted to the flow of li

fe um I asked my production team how they got this arranged and they told me that a few months ago I had sent your profile to uh them and said that I really want this person but I don't have a memory of sending your profile so I don't remember whether it was a friend of mine who connect connected me to you or I discovered something but when moments like this happen in my own journey I know that they meant to happen at this point in my timeline when you plan something you know it is more artifici

al and so there are certain things which happen naturally like meeting my Guru meeting certain people it happens so the when I receive your like you know call from your office or so somebody called me and said like you we calling for sure so that time I don't didn't know knew that so I immediately said no I don't want to get into all this in public thing I'm happy I'm a retired person so I'm happy with my family I don't want to get into all this so after some few months actually one of my friend

s she lives in Canada she spoke about you and suddenly I said oh I know this guy I've heard about this guy then she said he's a very nice guy this and and that then I went through all your videos and thing and I find you a nice person so I can't that's it thank you sir but what do you think is the reason the universe is making you and me meet see there are many things uh I don't know it has to be public or not because people don't understand much things I have lot I'm not blaming people it is ju

st that whether you are in that Consciousness or not so uh there are reasons I don't know I have to say like this but obviously you were supposed to meet so I'm here said and there is something okay all right um why don't we actually begin this conversation with your story I was like you so life Chang with the time I'm talking about somewhere 89 90 I'm a old man now I'm 54 so my god dad got retired from me so we had a house know so where we live there is to can he goes to the arra can so that wa

s like a little Forest Area there was nothing there were like Farms or day so I was crossing in the late night so there is an encounter happened to me with the spirit so that is I mentioned in my book in a very detailed way and then encounter with a spirit with the spirit where is this uh this is in in faridabad so I don't want to talk much about the my there so that time it was like you and there was two cans or like you know canals is to cross that area so suddenly one day stting my LIF you kn

ow I had a very weird experience that night it was was like closer to Diwali yester remember this was was my parents like I had a room which is was in The Veranda there was a gap so I used to live there because us to put a lot of music and my used to parents like oh my God you stay there so one night I was uh light down and I saw a black like color you can say wall or like you know a cloud like it's moving in my room so I just observed it what is it so I could make it out like I opened my door I

saw maybe you know there must be a smoke or something or maybe my eyes or and then went to bed this happened so one day what happened is I was uh sleeping around St I know around it was 1:00 you know I was start shivering and like a experiencing a lot of fear so I saw like this again this boy is like moving moving moving and that night I I don't know I got scared it was because of it because of the energy which wants me to get fear then I suddenly saw a women appearing from it from the black cl

oud yes and she just start stood in front of me and she looked at me initially I find it like okay she's good or whatever she was good goodl looking yeah goodl looking and that I was numb you know I don't know what is happening I was not in my senses so there's a bamboo chair was there so this bamboo chair is very also important she came and said next there she looked at me and uh I'm just cutting a shot and she wanted me to come with her so so where to go like where I have to go she wanted you

to come with her yes then this think you know and uh I was wanted to run away that night from my room I got very scared very very scared can we pause the story a little bit can you describe a little more about this woman yeah what did she look like she was a like young girl not very old she had a long hair nice like you know I've heard in movies you know used to get fun and I used to like laugh on those people okayish and I got very scared that night what what was she wearing I saw her like you

know it was my room she just looked like a white she was wearing a white s or something because it's long back you know she was wearing a white s you know and she she she was there did you feel attracted to her see no I got scared initially yes obviously when I looked at her there was something which like I was getting pulled towards her but that pull was a different kind of a bull which I understand now but that pull was not natural it was not natural because there was a lot of fear also there

was no calmness I want to run away from that so I tried all my best you know to get up from the bed I couldn't get up from the bed and suddenly I Zed out from I don't know what happened you know I saw going with her and going where I don't know just it was so lightning fast and then I'm somewhere else one second you followed her no she pulled me like that just I was just like your physical body not physic not your physical body yes so your astral body so but I don't know that moment like whether

I was was walking physically or I was going uh like you know on the energy body now I can talk this is energy body or this is a physical body as this experience was happening with your energy body actually yes because I saw her she was there so s and with imediately I was not there then I saw like going with her somewhere and that moment it was so real I don't know whether I had a physical body or not right now we can discuss like this that I was was not physical in there but in that moment it

it was not that my body is there and I'm here it doesn't work like this that is my reality because what is reality it is also a very different thing to you know it's a big thing to talk you know so that was my reality that time I was say so I was there so if you say my energy body okay let's say it's energy body or my physical body so who I am I don't know with I'm energy body or a physical body right okay I knew this much that I was there I was walking with her in reality so went to a place so

many different things people suffering things like this and she wanted me to cross a certain area or she took me and she wanted me to Cross this so I mentioned that thing also so I said uh okay well initially was very scared so I'm just this keep happening and one day you know she already pushed me to get into that to process you mean this happened repeatedly every day yes yes yes yes so you would see a black cloud a woman would then later on it start imp start happening same I'll tell you what

happened so uh this woman told me to cross a small kind of a small Revo kind of energy I have just said like let's say it is a r just told me to go the moment I wented there so I just pulled down you know she never uh she never pulled me beyond that River she was standing she said you cross this so the moment I just stood there uh just like you know drawing in that then suddenly somebody pulled me out of that and this man very very powerful I can remember that man not in that women that much ver

y strong person holding like some stick in the hand very long haes and think that he asked me what are you doing here I said I don't know what I doing he said go back the moment he said like I was on my bed and like what happened I was very scared so this happened kept happening so uh I didn't know what to do because my family what is this you were talking and I was quiet one second sir after this experience where that powerful man pulled you out and sent you back to your body yes did that woman

come back to your room uh no I didn't see her then after that she didn't come I'll tell you what happens why this then what I start observing the it was uh the third time yes so same thing happened this guy told me the who pull me he said this is the last time I'm doing it and if you come back here I'm sorry I won't able to save you why did you go back to it's not in my hand you know I I whenever I used to come into my room and sleep and this used to happen so this one thing one night is over t

his this incident fine next morning I got up what is happening I'm scared you know what do this maybe this is nonsense this will not happen you know I never lived in coast and this doesn't happen you had gone py and that time also I started my work also I was working so uh this kept happening you know one day I didn't sleep okay I'll not sleep then how long I will not sleep I never spoke to my parents about this then second time same thing happened the third time when it happened that made me re

ally that was a very painful experience I had this guy told me don't come here you will be be dead you I can't save you this the gentleman who saved me from that TR why painful because uh that the little hope I had like I can come out of this so when I got this experience that I'm not going to come back from this that was very scary for me then I decided not to sleep then I was working that time in a company this is American company had office in India so there a very very big American Store act

ually so I used to sit in the night and then start recalling when I'm facing this problem so initially I told you 1:00 right then I realize from 1 to 2:00 this entire thing happens whenever I used to get you know back to my bed I used to see it's 2:00 so I start realizing that during 1 to 2:00 time these basic problems are occuring so I stopped sleeping few days you know having coffee and then I'll go to my bed 3:00 4:00 and then then my parents like what are you doing you know I don't know I ha

ve some things like this so one day what happened I was in my I was working in the office so this good friend of mine right so I have written his name Amon but he's not true name is not D so I got a call from uh from the you know reception there was no mobile calls so somebody said they a couple there is a call for you he then the first thing he said I'm not fine I said what happened to you he say I'm having a very uh High favor then he asked me are you okay I said yes why you asking me this he

said do you have a bamboo chair in your room the bamb Ambu chair came to like my room uh like few weeks back so this friend Aman never visited me you know that time there was a gift came to me from aracha Pradesh from one of my uncle he was a Deputy Commissioner there so the chair came said you must have come to my house you must said no no I have not you can ask your mom I never came to your house when you were there so he he told me like about the dream he said uh last night I had a dream I sa

w same woman he explained me and she came to my dream and she [Music] said I'll take him and also I'll take you along with him and he got so scared and I said what and you know they We Were Young you know couldn't believe this you let me in the evening then I like you know I'm in a trou trouble you know and all this then we find out how to solve this problem so one friend to the other friend and somebody knew some tantri Baba or something you know so we reached there so this guy have written a v

ery big complete detail he looked at me and he told me my problem and uh he told me this this is a woman young girl and uh he told me that she was raped and killed in that area I asked her why she's after me he started laughing he said she must have find you very handsome man so she's with you now she want to take you I going be scared I'm going to die if I don't worry I'll do something so this is this was the experience actually uh changed my life actually because I was am extremist basically I

never believe in you know let's go to the temple and do anything so then it start making me realize that there is something more to life it is not that when I'm going to die I am going to become nothing it is not true what was that line that you crossed you know you said something like a r yeah so when I I uh spoke to this person this uh tantri so he told me this is mentioned in our books you know this is called as a rer or I don't know with or told me if you cross yes so it is mentioned in uh

uh Gan right so if you cross this and see then you won't be able to come back so it's good that you have not crossed and you were lucky you know you somebody saved you yes somebody saved me all right come see why I'm not saying that is the exact that re the fact is that I don't know that the explanation of the tantri I can only say what I have experienced I'm not a person who's going to say this is written in the book I have lived my life with my own experiences and for me my life is only my me

and my experience not somebody's experience your experience cannot help me right it can be a story that's it so my so my my experiences are just like a story to you but how my experience has affected my life my journey that is important to me right have you ever thought of the being that saved you from that Riv sorry you said a powerful man with a d came and yes see now uh with the time I understand how these there are many many uh High beings you know uh which are connected to me to you and eve

ryone it is not about this lifetime with how much you have uh practiced or prayers and things like this it is not that if I I pray too much and this will happen and that will happen but definitely there is someone who's taking care of all of us but if you say oh that is the Supreme thing no it is too far right there are many many things many things you know we we think we are living here multiple and we live in multiple Dimensions also I had these experiences also people have experience or also

so why I start believing these things that these are uh true not because I'm somebody who is like you know some very big great master or something I start experiencing when uh my confidence become I can actually trust myself when my friends start telling me because the first experience if my closest friend you know it would have been like just a story or a dream but it was happening simultaneous to to two people and we both were suffering and after meeting this something things changed actually

in a very very major way did you meet the woman again no never in life never in my I don't want to meet now she will not come to me although because you have protection on you now see it is not protection see uh we all are protected it is not that we are not protected you me are sitting here otherwise you know your body is integrated right now because of some energy you know all these atems and things are together because of something otherwise there is no need reason how can they remain United

together so there is not glue right so we all are protected but this is all a play it's a fun you know it's a game uh it is a game of power game of energy as you and like we live in this world we want to be powerful in the sense but whether by knowledge by money by physical strength by Fame so just like this so in this entire in this last so many of your like practicing practicing practicing it is all the game of power that's it where the good Power bad power but for me there is no good power th

ere's not bad power everybody wants someone if a spirit you know let's if today if I think about that women or that Spirit or the soul and when I'm going to die I'm going to be like that right and if somebody's feeling alone right maybe she wanted somebody right and nobody was able to help her maybe she this was her Destiny this is the way she wanted to be you know got liberated and God bless her you know sorry I'm asking you this yes please do these entities also have sexuality yes definitely I

have many people I'm helping these days also women men and but there you'll be surprised I um like two three years back I met a lady she's a professor I don't want to take her name so I told her like you have a partner she said yes I have a partner and but not in the physical form I said I can help you to remove that she said no that spirit that he's very very sweet soul and I'm very happy with her and you'll be surprised you know doctors Engineers middleaged people old age people young I met s

o many people they they have experienced these things but they can't talk openly you know I know people are going to laugh at me but not from in here from in India but all over the world you know I've spoken to so many people having so many experiences but there is a huge number of people people they they can't experience this thing so when they the quantity matters you know that is the thing and there is no uh scientific evidences it is my experience so people will say oh you have gone mad that

's it you know one after reading my book somebody uh one person called me from uh Singapore he was like uh near about 70 years AG he said I want to tell you something I said yes please he said every night when I sleep there's somebody who comes and sit on my chest and he's he's a good businessman very nice person he said like never able to tell anybody this thing because people would think I'm mad so people generally think you you are mad because there is no explanation to it right but it doesn'

t mean that people are not going through things so it is very easy to you know to dismiss somebody else's experience as their Madness it is life I'll not say these are experience and like you know people think oh this is this is the way they are living you know there are so many people they have really suffering with things and what they people they say okay go to a neurologis you know doctor neuro doctor and get medicine things things doesn't work yes there are people who are doing they have ps

ychological problems no doubt about it but it is not every time that there is a only a physical neurological problem right we've had like people who would be called exhaus or ghost hunters or tantrics on the show and all of last year 2022 the theme of the show was horror and Supernatural and all that I've got an understanding of that world the one thing I know about that world is that when you talk about something like ghosts boot they are living a very difficult reality uh it's a Perpetual stat

e of thirst it's a Perpetual state of hunger it's a Perpetual state of emptiness see there are many different kind of beings those don't stick to Coast these are the most lowest form of Consciousness which has there right now Consciousness means like we generally understand there's a one Consciousness you know there's one God and we all are one okay that might be true that one God We Are One everything but right now do you feel do I feel we are one that is not true right similarly there are so m

any different aspect to this universe there are different planes which has been explained by different Masters but these they definitely exist and those who are practicing it or those who are into that Superior uh Consciousness or in Superior nature so they they realize these things okay so if you're talking about the spirits who are stuck here right they are not able to go beyond that basically it is mentioned everywhere there's nothing which I'm telling you new new is they have certain desires

you know to to be here right can I tell you one recent experience so there's a lady in uh this came to me and she said her mother is here in the house you know she's stuck after death and there is a lot of problem they are facing so they went like to many places even to Gara to all kind of pandits you know def go to many uh spiritual places to get you know they liberated the soul didn't get liberated so I said okay fine you will do something something about it so she came with her brother so I

did a small thing the mother came you know she asked me okay I'll go but I need a promise from you I said what promise you want she said I want my both the kids to get married I said what so I so I remain quiet I said okay so they were sitting in the other room so I asked her what is like your what is the issue in your family about marriage things then the uh the sister was Elder like you know she told me I got divorced and my brother is not yet married he's 30 and uh she was this was the bigges

t uh desire for your mother that you she wanted both of you to get settled see yet I said your mother says she will not leave you until then you know time both of you get married and settled so I said okay I I'll do something so I went inside I said the you have to go I I'm not going to give you any promise then it was very difficult task for me to make her realize and leave this thing people whether they practice or they don't practice or people who are normal they are stuck with some kind of a

thing even what practicing too much of knowledge and things if it is not penetrated into your Consciousness then you're stuck here and this woman wanted like you know their kids to get married so there are many many cases you know uh where I I have find these things the concept of reality is very difficult to understand that is sure if I say I understand it but what I have realized that till the time I am realizing that I am this couple I am limited that's it I cannot think go beyond it the mom

ent I think like you said mantras you know how Mantra Works how I've learned you know you can create mantras also yeah I have created mantras myself it's based on your name and something right no no no not do you're just reading books that's it you know so in if you you go to like books if you play cricket you know I can see that so there is a forward you know defense then backward defense by learning forward defense back back defense by by reading a sweep shot can you play a game no no so when

you were a young boy did you go to that those books or you just start playing it so then now there is a helicopter shot there is not mentioned in it so it is not about books books are only uh referring to some experiences some great people had that's it you can also write books you can have mantas like in Hinduism they are say that these are matrikas or uh these a VAR Mala so there are initially six VAR malas which are basically the Lord Shiva shaki reside in all these six a a right e e o o so t

his is not true what is my realization I'm challenging I'm sorry to say here like sitting here and talking like that this is you know why because I use Hebrew words to check how these energies work I use Japanese ment Chinese but Chinese alphabets were very stronger than Japanese you can experiment you can do but you can only do these thing when you are a m you become a master of it then these book doesn't matter you go to a place you know just one leaf I I I put there you know I can offer one y

ear of offering by just offering one leaf whatever this Temple how many people have giving offering with one leaf I can make a bigger offering like that but if you know that play you decide you tell initially my Guru used to say you know you should chant this mantra for this m La time I give one example this is a so I met a lady her name was shamama so shamama uh was a school teacher never got married so I can tell you the first encounter with her so one of my friend she's a principal very well

awarded you know very well known lady also I don't want to take her name with the very royal family she's working with so she called me to meet this lady so I went to her so um when I went uh like you know reach to her house she was sitting very angry she was an old woman so my friend asked her why you so angry K is not doing anything for me so where is the you know the morti she said I kept it in the refrigerator you know it's in the fridge I have you know logged maali into the fridge for last

like you know 24 hours I'm not going to give her to eat anything you know so I looked at her I smiled you know I said wow the kind of a devotional love she had so then she my friend told oh please calm down calm down calm down then please take out the K she opened the refrigerator took out the malali okay I'll give you only two kajus nothing more you know then suddenly you know my throat got getting was getting choked so I was not able to breathe properly so I I said sh tell your G to please tak

e out your hand remove my hand from I'm not able to breathe she looked at me like this okay then this was a small incident happening then she had ability to see hands and say anything like reading Palms she used to see figures and numbers not Palm she attained this power from uh one of his M uh from uh from Kolkata okay then she helped me you know she gave me a coconut go and break it so I broke uh coconut to then my finger got cut there the blade blood came I'm telling you everything in very sm

all shortcut she said she has taken a belly I said okay and that time you know my energies were not Jing with her Lord kardi she was very angry with me so so I went and showed my hand to her so there is two stories I don't know whether I have to tell you both the stories are both are very interesting you can tell both so we have time so she looked at uh my hand and uh she she pulled my hand and she said tell me what Lord sha told you I said what the lady yeah the shami you know she said she told

me the exact date on what date and year I visited mAh kaleswar Mand inen and there I met Lord Shiva and she knew everything and she pulled my hand and she said if you tell me that I'll become your shisher I said you like my mother please don't say this and uh Shi you like you I said but I going to tell you what Lord sha told me she said you please I request you you she she palu you know the S palu thing she you know put like in my feet please me I said I'm not going to tell you what Lord sha to

ld me then I said there is a problem you know why I have come she said yes there is a problem she told me this is one Mantra which you have to change it was a big Mantra which you have to chant for Sak you know 1 lakh 125,000 time and get it done you will be come out of this problem I said okay so if I I what problem were you facing that maali was upset with you yeah there was we when we practice there we make lot of mistakes also we are nobody's perfect my we we make mistakes then she said this

is going to see although she wanted to be my like you know sh and so there is no Shan grp we all are friends we I know something you know something so we keep learning from each other so she said okay uh Sak manra you get it done you'll be fine I said okay so I said if I do it uh 10 lakh 25,000 she said that will be great but it'll take you months to get it done I said okay I said morning will come again and then I'll show my hand so morning I came and showed her said how many jobs are there sh

e said it's completed I said how many she said 10 L 25,000 she looked at me and she said it is impossible that how can you do it in one night you finished 10 lakh 25,000 jobs yes we can do in one second how the there are ways once you know this play so you don't have to say initially I told you like and that day uh I realize I can do it so that was the first kind first confirmation I got uh from her that I can we can do that it is not about couple doing it everyone can do it it's not see I'm not

somebody special I just know I just practice a little more you know that's it what happened after you met that tantric and that entity like after that phase you definitely would have understood that okay now there's a higher reality yeah I am assuming that that same tantri introduced you to your initial bits of spirituality yes yes yes you must have been 22 23 no that uh I guess that time how things uh like folded I'll explain you like uh so when I met this T you know after finishing this I for

got about him never thought about him again because that was I was Psy in my my my work my job things like this so in between uh like you know after then fall in love with a girl and got married and become a businessman also so what happened uh you know I was working with a uh M with a company I'll not say the name so there was a business relationship with this gentleman right who's uh like daughter I got married initially we were friends we then fall in love and we got married so now the anothe

r chapter begins here is of a marriage right so I wanted to stay in my job never wanted to get into business the guy was not from the business family so this guy insisted why insisted because the industry knows because how much I helped him to you know regain the business and whatever it is his big name also in the government IND industry my father-in-law so he told me that there is a a huge unit right like a factory it was like no huge unit means it was okay like 3 and a half acre land it's a f

actory constructed you I want to give you that and you start doing your business I said I don't have money to pay you right he said okay uh when I'll work then all L can be but I'll not want to gift whatever you know so then he told he one of his you know office person his Jour manager you know told him to take couple to that factory so we went to the factory you know when I saw this Factory I remember something what happened to me a few years back so when I was in the job I was going you know m

y general manager of this the previous company told me to go to this area so I was well having a bike you know was riding by so suddenly I stopped on the road I saw that unit and I thought that one day I want to buy this and why I'm getting pulled to that unit there were many units you know and I I don't know there was a subconnect to that and when I got married this my father-in-law told me to go to the same unit he gifted me that you take this not gifted me means you take this and this place w

here I started working there was a problem already so I came to know from the staff that this this is the one unit which has never you know uh shown any profit so it has been shut down for many years you know when i r there there was like such huge elephant crass you know big jungle like difficult to even to enter the you know rain so there I had start facing some problems then again I wanted to help because once you got into this then you have idea something is there something to rectify that p

roblem again again I met this guy after so many years theand yes and I called somebody else you know like his name was shambu so he came he couldn't help me he said I have to call my master so he said why don't you come to my place and uh we'll meet my Guru is coming to you know to meet this guy so I went there and uh I saw the same person and you I was shocked when he said how are you couple C is my old friend so when this thing again happened then I thought I think there is a you know some dee

p connect with this person so he became my Guru I later on so this is the way this guy become G so then practicing with him then seeing how these people cheat later on how they they they manipulate with the energ you mean your first Guru cheated yes because when I get caught into this I have written in a book like you know how these people manipulate you how these uh see these energies of manipulations only work on those people very easily very very easily who are sensitive towards energies peop

le who wants to go into spiritualism they think oh this is a great journey no you the moment you get into this you become the first the most vulnerable thing yeah because to adopt spirituality in your own life you need to be open to higher reality that usually means you have an open personality so if you find a guru initially who you think is your Guru who teaches you techniques things start happening in your life your heart opens up even more that Guru is also on his or her own spiritual journe

y they might slip they might use you they might manipulate see see this Guru came into my life and my uh initially when I went there so uh he called me for one small ritual it was very uh ritual not for the journal public it was with very um important you know people or students Seekers so he was had having a a small uh ritual there so then he uh there was a prayers going on there was a hav like you know and that's not hav that Pand you see they are very different way of doing things and there's

a tuni also and things like that so I saw people after finishing the um people are talking in certain way you know and that who came and what happened and things like this and during that uh uh first that ritual the thing even I had a very strong experience and this guy asked me in front of that you also had experience with goddess and that was the first time I have a experience with the goddess the first thing which I I have saw see you know like during the h i saw that uh the fire and I see t

he goddess in the fire right and it was so beautiful to see her she looked at me and like I was amazed to see the beauty of it and I like I was like quiet I've never you know didn't wanted to share this experience because that was the first time I was there so this guy I have have given him a name a okay that is not hisra the guru yeah so the not came to know that I have seen this so in front of everyone he said couple also had the experience with goddess you know so what Goddess was that now I'

m realizing after the time that these are initial energies you know if you have the ability or The God if you the uh your channels are open by birth or by any other reason you can experience that those energies are there in spirit like with the time if if you ask me with this uh whatever I have learned today I would say there is nothing no dark and nothing um golden or white see whatever suits me it becomes favorable for me this is a very aori style of thinking yes yes that there's nothing that'

s good or bad nothing nothing so you've clearly had some experience with aoris as well yes was it near this phase of your hen or was it way see the these see this happened much much later in my life right much later when I met the aori guru when then I got into the other set of practices so you've been in aori sadak yes I was very close to them and I I know like how to do AI sadas without getting into the places and I with the time I learned you know I don't have to go to Sham Shan I can create

here okay after five uh after the H I realized uh that these tantrics are doing what actually I thought these guys are very great doing great you know uh Puja and prayers and they they are connected with the God after 5 years I realize I left this guy you know uh why I left this guys I realize they are in lot of wrongdoings wrong tantras not only the physical world like by uh playing manipulating people but they are using their energies also to uh control others like mixing things in the you kno

w the pad and by spirits and they are um they go to different places you know to catch the spirits of uh young people women and uh do all kind of stupid things right with them controlling alive women or dead women dead women life and dead yeah physically dead and uh what they used to Target how they used to Target which kind of people they they target so these are very very open facts you okay um I'm actually going to cut you short there's too much to unback um for me my creative work is my D an

d I have to give it my 100% it's just how I look at life okay at this stage of my life this is how I look at it this is not as simple as me recording something becoming more famous and making more money yes there is energy and power I put into my art uh I'm not able to do justice to this conversation right now I'm not able to do justice to the life you have lived which is why we're cutting it here uh there's a lot more to unpack with you okay um based on the chronology so I think this is just an

introductory episode thank you sir coup sir we will be speaking to you very very thank you thank you that was only the first half of this special two-part conversation that you're going to experience in this one single episode the second half gets even grittier here we go kabble Kumar basar so welcome back to the studio thank you when I met you the last time right I was very very burnt out very very broken and I feel like I am a new person and I was only broken because of being burnt out I don'

t think there was really any emotional trauma there was a little bit but not significant enough to shake me uh then once I got talking to you I realized there's a lot to talk to you about right so I needed a day like this where I'm in this kind of energy no you are in a perfect energy and a very Divine energy there's no doubt about it thank you sir you can pick up on these things everyone can pick up you know it's not difficult thing who who in this kind of a practice will know you know it's not

difficult thing yeah uh I Tried reading your book reminisces of a Seeker yeah uh but it was a lot to take in and I do recommend the book to everyone uh what I will also say is I first recommend that everyone watch the entire first podcast and this podcast and bunch of the ones we're going to do after this as well firstly I want to say welcome back sir thank you so much but this book is is telling you what you should not be doing the second book will tell you what should you do you know in this

practice and my pra uh my learnings are only through experiences not like you know going to any school or anything to study any vant or things like this it's personal experiences which I'm right uh I think we should pick up right from where we left off okay uh the last story you told us and I was asking you constantly that podcast to go chronologically right so I think we stopped at roughly about your age 30 phase where you had that experience of the yes yes yes right where you saw a better word

figurine not figure it's like complete goddess if you have that eye you can see the goddess or the deity in the fire and uh it is not like a shape so if you're thinking oh it's just like you know it's a shape it's uh you are imagining then that is a different thing but when you are able to see you can see exactly what she is and how she is and who she is who was it this is the the image which whatever you see that time is the image of the Goddess that she is right there in the fire as it said y

ou know like in Hinduism it says the fire is the mouth you know from where the god uh the god and goddesses get the feeding you know feed you feed them through them or the waldi hav Sam goes through that but this is true what this is my experience has to this is not only Bish thing and the fire is a very very very key important uh element here you know to uh uh to what what do you call it you know to whatever you want to uh gift or offer it reaches to them if you practice also something you will

create energy which will take a form this depends on the kind of mantras you want you're chanting or the kind of intention you have and the kind the kind of a purpose you have but isn't it like there is a steady set of deities that you pray to sarasti ma dur ma K Ma you're saying this is like another set of Duties which you can actually create this was the first time you know after getting initiation from the tantri the the tantri uh invited me for the most sacred uh prayers you know which like

he for that kind of a uh sadh the only the core group can enter into that kind of a sad so I also entered in that kind of a sadana so even after the sadana all the other disciples were there and they were like like talking like know like as as if the movie has overed so he this guy this this D came or this person came and this happened and that happen how how long did the hav last see generally used to pray for like 2 hours or 3 hours it's not only praying but uh lot of chantings and dancing al

so take place so how is one of thing the the sacred fire is burn at one corner then the uh the prayer was over then he say he spoke you know the couple else also has seen something I was shocked you know how he come to know that while uh I was be doing the hen and he was busy in his prayers or dancing or and singing so after the prayers so he spoke very clear clearly this thing that he saw something then even that thing has given me the strength to believe what I saw was right it is not what it

was my imag imagination you know so what he explain I saw exactly that so this this gave me the confirmation on this that what I saw is right so problem is this we keep imagining lot of things but until unless you get a confirmation by some way you know then only you can see say that whatever I seen is correct I've seen many many things but there is no confirmation on anything right once he confirmed it what happened one confirm he was very happy you know so um you have the ability to see things

and then so so he pushed me further into more practices so this is the first thing the first move in the very first prayer he he guessed like what I can do you know maybe I have certain kind of abilities so then he manipulated me with the time that what happened how did he manipulate you see you think these tantri or these gurus you know whatsoever we call like big ashrams and with big teams and see for common people like me and you and everyone you know who about prayers we have a a different

kind of a belief you know God is very kind you know God will love me the mother godess will take care of me things like this we go to God uh like a child you know but their approach are very different our approach and their approach is very different there is we believe that energy is very kind it's very supportive to everything you know but in this world uh everything is possible you know people do these God goddesses like U and like the Hanan is very kind God but if you read a certain kind of

prayers of Hanuman so Hanuman will go and destroy your enemy right if you're saying this a tantric approach to praying to no see yeah there is a uh what do you call it there is a prayer know generally people pray bajang B is like when and destroy my enemy right if somebody's enemy to me for what reason if whether he's doing better than me or I'm jealous or he is jealous the issue is jealousy now Hanan will go and you know give him a good bashing right so we think like God is very kind kind-heart

ed only kind to me right so he or she should do everything for me and destroy the others right to make me become so how did he manipulate you that time I was doing very well as in my business and if you are doing well financially also then they you you become important person for them first thing because you can fuel their as or their grow one first thing and second if they manipulate me and show me you know this world so I'll be very closer to them right the other thing third thing if you have

a certain kind of abilities uh which helps them to manipulate others right to gain more Powers uh to to bring strength to them not only on the financial ter or the social thing yes that is the key thing so we think like you know uh in spirituality everything is so so sweet you know it's not that it's it's more worse world than what we live here and to reach to God is like takes lot a lot of time it is not easy because these people not only in the physical form but in the spiritual world will not

let you go out of this world so there are many stories you know how how this happened the the last manipulation I'll tell you more stories about it about uh he wanted to attain a lot of power means energy through a spirit right this Spirit like you know uh the spirits have different kind of energies they're weaker stronger as you know so he want to manipulate one Spirit who was a Naga itself a Naga yes so uh he was was not in a physical body so uh much later uh like you know uh in my life with

him you know spending after few years with him so I ultimately reached to that level where he wanted me to uh bring this Naga to him so I I did that uh unfortunately and he wanted that person to win many battles in other world so you began kind of working with him at least spiritually you were doing your own sadna no he under his guidance under his guidance you were doing your own practices the thing is when you do these practices you gain a certain amount of spiritual power yourself yes so he w

as attracted to both your money and your spiritual progress that you were making and he had identified a higher being which was a Naga and then Naga could do something for him but he used your spiritual advancement to help get the favor of that now yes because he had already had one Spirit uh his name was kalal already very very old Spirit which he used to use that how do you even communicate with these higher beings see the higher beings and spirits will talk because right now we talking about

spirits right so to uh connect with the spirits it's not difficult with the higher being we need some kind of a purity in ourself or some kind of a strength to uh levitate us to that kind of a consciousness the spirits want more you know our help they want to communicate with us are these ghosts so like if you know my father dies he'll be a ghost for you for me he's a p you know right as a protective so that way so it is not that like if somebody has died in in my family is going to be protectin

g me no they can eat me also right more than this how to communicate with these Spirits or these bits they are very simple ways the only way you know if you want to adapt any kind of a technique or same see that is a psychological to to to go for a technique if you have that desire you know to communicate and you have that belief in yourself that you can talk to them that will it'll happen right now okay if there is a fear in myself I'm scared of uh spirit supposing I believe they are they don't

not exist how many techniques I apply it will not happen because what I am saying doesn't matter what actually in me deep inside me that matters as in if you emotionally open yourself up to these things they'll come towards you see not why because because now when can see things so I should also see things because he can talk like this I should talk like this he has become like this I should no it's not if it is my desire it has not come from any book or this desire will make me something you k

now because I'll become somebody I can talk to my friends then it will not happen but did he teach you techniques as well no these techniques were nobody can teach you these techniques the see we all have the same abilities some people are able their uh abilities are activated by like since birth some try it and it activates later on so but if you say there's a technique like I'll have a like for example we use word third eye it's not I I don't have to use a technique it is only really there you

are using it I'm not using it that's it but in the asham the sad that you were doing okay that allowed you to connect to these things okay see what happens is when you do these kind of uh uh practices uh so these are side effects you know this will happen automatically if you say like if I'm practicing something uh then naturally things will come for example I tell you one good example so this guy gave me uh certain practices that you should do which was like mantras mantras and things like thi

s you know you have to practice and so whatever he used to give he used to tell me okay just chanted like 10 Mala that's it you know so I used to do 100 malas you know I used to love it you know I really wanted to uh I have a like you know to meet God or love God whatever so I still remember you know long back I had a business meeting in Malaysia so uh we went uh there with my wife and everyone so we then after finishing the meeting we went to ganting so there I went to the casino so I didn't kn

ow that uh something has changed about myself so we were there for the ret I was just standing there and I don't know I just uh put the money and those coins like money thing whatever so I lost it then suddenly second time there is like my senses start telling me where this is what number you know where the ball is going to stop I start doing it you won't believe what happened you know suddenly everybody start copying me and keeping wherever I was like you know putting the money there was and th

is lady starts screaming and shouting she start abusing me I don't know what what language and you know uh thing became so worse there you know like wherever I was keeping the money I was winning right and uh because my wife was there so she came and she what happened you know why there so this woman is screaming did you do something I said no why I don't know what is this happening how you able to do it I said I don't know but I'm able to see that like this is happening you think this was an ou

tcome of the s yes so because why I know this because I knew that this this guy you know used to ask you know that if you pray like this you will see numbers and things like this and you can use it you know you can make money like this youed should talk like this so then I was like God she said you should leave the table now you know you should I said okay then I collected the entire money and give it to that woman I said you keep it whatever you want to do because uh I felt somewhere you know g

uilty that I'm misusing my stuff you know to create a trouble on the table as in you were attracting money through I'm not attracting the money I'm able to see what what number you know which color which number with you were able to hack G yes yes yes I start hacking so you you felt internally wrong yes this was not right because this is I never wanted these things to happen to me but coming back to the asham right I'm sure that basically what you're trying to say is faculty started getting unlo

cked in your own mind yes this what he told me also uh there were people who like in the core group who used to practice certain kind of mantras or what I used to teach them that you will be able to know the number you know if you get this number you can put this money so all kind of nonsense happened there you know I was not there uh to gain powers or to make money after seeing those having those experience after meeting that lady ghost you know I said there is something more to it right then I

become very scared then I I become so scared that what is going to happen to me after that right then this fear went so big that I wanted to attain that power uh I'm telling you the very secret of my that where I can leave my body on my desire you can say this is a fear yes this is a fear this was a fear initially that I don't wanted to die like this and become Ghost or become something so I really wanted to learn the way how to die so that I do not get uh trapped into this kind of a world so t

his was my biggest Fe so that is also one of the key important of me to jumping into this m this you wanted to have the ability to go about astral travel which is what they call it like your astral body gets out of your physical body see these astral travels are like totally hyped by people right people think oh I'm traveling this is not difficult I don't know why everyone think you know somebody is special everyone God has made all us all of us same you know uh we think we have to do a astr uh

travel you know if we become little conscious little conscious you are connected right where everywhere or anywhere you are wanted right now you don't have to close your eyes let's go back to the story sir what happened so uh then I came back you know uh then I realized this thing then I thought I should not be talking this thing to these guys you know to the that this what happened to me uh in the ganting you know in Malaysia in the in this thing so I remained quiet so slowly this practice you

keep keep meeting in this thing right then he start uh talking about to you know you have to pay yourself go you into the celibacy you know and practice uh more and more things see I celibacy I went into celibacy for after just after having my child just after two years of my mar one year of marriage one or two years of marriage I went into cacy right and for good number of years because of him right and celibacy then also in celibacy also what kind of a celibacy you know it's not like not havin

g uh sex we call it right so there also the celibacy went so deep you know this kind of a feeling went so deep in my dreams also you know I was so conscious that I am not supposed to do these things then my another ability start growing after doing this so if you want I can give you one story about it I I want to know what the outcome was but when you're saying celibacy as a married person yes there was absolutely no phys no relationship you know I I became so fanatic when I used to pray you kno

w every day so I used to start giving around uh 67 hours minimum every day into my prayers start doing har every day if the moment you know like in the in the beginning if I had a little thing you know if uh wrong uh what do you call it any wrong thought about anyone you know I has to light the matches and burn my thighs you know I to punish myself you became obsessed with Cy not with the celibacy with this kind of getting into this world you know so I I was pulled so strongly into that like you

know I was ready to do anything why I was doing it I had no idea who was pulling me well I have no idea you know I to burn my legs my my thighs with you know burning mat SS then how can can I can think like this you know then this gave me a different kind of opening you know into a different kind of Realm or a different kind of a power which start helping me to start controlling my dreams you know then uh in my dreams I used to see what I am doing what is right and what is wrong like they call

this lucid dreaming but actually it's probably astral body which woke up at this point see um I know you see you are again and again you're using astral body and this body you know see I know there's one Consciousness which resides in all my bodies right whether it is in a physical body it's astral body or whatever body you say right so my body that will awake or diff see it's me so I don't want to like don't like to use so many words just to make things more complicated or sound very very beaut

iful you know it is something out of the world I don't like to talk this so how this s uh this thing helped me I'll tell you that one thing uh is like obviously I have to stop thinking about women or sex or things like this so that is totally off so how you used to practice if I have get an idea by looking at a woman I imediately I have to look at her feet I mean that that what this is the way I used to practice I used to say m mother please forgive me you know so I started practicing so this pr

acticing uh you know one day what happened so I came from from the factory I was tired I was just lying down you know in my S couch or bed so immediately I doed out like whatever you know that I have a short nap or kind of a thing whatever so uh I saw a very beautiful girl standing next to me so at that time I was not realizing I was in the room or something so she was wearing a denim jacket you know long Mac that was in the fashion or whatever she had a very beautiful hair she came and she stan

d next to me and she said can I sit close to you I said okay so she came and uh said next to me you know see the moment she sat next to me I could feel the warmth of her body she you know uh she touched me then the there is some kind of a idea start coming into the mind and then immediately I got a shock off my life I real I what I am doing what this nonsense I'm doing right and I immedately told her you know get out from here you know and opened my eyes that time I realized like forget about dr

eams even if a spirit or energy try to you know break my wow what I would have taken for a certain period of a time or whatever they can't dist me anymore now I'm aware that and that confidence came from that particular dream see what not dream at because why I'm saying it is not dream because I told you that story also this woman went to my brother's room did I yeah right yeah and this is the importance of the story was it the same woman yes this is the same woman then when I said get lost from

here why I got why I'm saying that this this was not a dream again I will confirm you not you this confirmation is for me not to convin convince ranir or anyone in this world you know this woman uh that she went away from there after a few days when my brother was in Bangalore you know he the same day he was supposed to go to Bangalore so he called me and he said brother there's some you know nonsense is happening with me I said what happened he said you know every night I'm in the hotel I'm he

re for a meeting a woman comes in my room I said what she say is a physical like he said no she is a spirit and he was very scared and then he told me exact the SK she wears a denim jacket I said wow denim jacket has become very famous you know this is the same brother from years ago who used to have that shared dream with you when no no no no that is a friend this is another guy he's my brother real brother your real brother yes I'm talking about was this woman goes the same woman this is also

different it's different because that that uh story was over you know because uh the the tantri guru you know he made you he released or he captured that ghost I don't know that right see this is another Spirit which came and this then my brother called me and spoke about that this woman I said what you know then I spoke to this tantri that this is the problem you know then he told me this the woman you're talking about that dream that was not the dream that she was actually there in the your ro

om and because your brother so you know he put He was traveling so he had a lot of do and think my brother love to do a lot of stuff so he has got attracted to that man and she went along with this guy because she wanted whatever you know ghost also sexual desires yes see why I'm in this physical body why because I had desires that's why I've come into this body if I don't have desire then I'll come into this body so by saying that ghost also have desire see when I am going to die you know I wil

l be also a ghost maybe for my my kids or for grandkids I'm going to be a p or D or something but I'm I'm going to be ghost for you whatever words you want to use depends on you right what was this woman but it was this woman this denim jacket woman was it a human that had died yes see the ghost you most of the uh the the spirits you see in in our world like they are like this but if you say see the only the coost are in in human form no they are not they are not and if what what do you mean if

you think host you know those the word host you are using basically for me host is someone who doesn't have a physical body of this plane sure right and if you want to know that do hosts are human like structure only no there are other kinds of beings yes who was this particular lady was it a human no see she was a human and that's why she appeared in a human body she must have passed away because you know it is not about this one Spirit you you'll be surprised every second day every day almost

I'm like meeting encountering with the spirits it's it's like we say oh we met some Spirits Spirits are everywhere everywhere right it's only that whether well while driving also sometime you know I met Spirits they come and sit in my car and then to get out from here you know while walking it it is everywhere it's it is not something great like oh there is a spirit see those who are into these worlds these are things are very very very very common and nothing great about it you know anybody who

's like you know who is sitting or maybe watching you right now if he's thinking oh my God Spirit then tell the gentlemen you are going to be become that only just wait for a time that's it do you sense anything in this room room no I don't sense a good uh room but I sense a thing near your kitchen that area and there is a message that you should in your kitchen you should it should be you know you should be keep cooking some nice stuff and food Spirits are there but they are very happy so that

what message I was getting was if you want to grow more and keep them happy keep those Spirit see very simple you know people think oh some great message I tell them very few things you you are connected to one little bird you know you go and feed that bird like that we we unlock this on the next step let's just talk about this story of this lady right now sorry audiences even I want to know all these things as much as you do but we'll come back to this story this lady uh that you spoke about he

r intention was just sexual see uh in the very beginning also I tell you if don't mind if you're die I'm okay have an open conversation if you die would you like to be my my like if we are friend would you like me to be always your friend or not yeah yes so that means even after your death you want certain things from this world yes or no attachments yes or no yes see we'll talk about these big words from the books attachment even God even God cannot detach himself from the shti forget about us

can Shiva detach himself from Shi H understood people just talk Detachment tell the Sha to leave Shi forever and the moment the Shiva will leave the shaki it will become sh become nothing so if he is the father of everyone or she is the mother of everyone if I'm picking the same drop of water from the ocean right I'll have the same qualiity and same qualities I have what Shiva and shaki have so how can I'll be Det yeah how did you get rid of that lady did you yes you didn't there was a guy tantr

i Baba you know his he was with me he was he helped me to do these things but with the time I asked him uh how to get over of this thing from these problems you know if I uh how to release these Souls you know because people feel bad and they hate these Souls I never feel bad for them you know she would have been a sister or a wife or a daughter or someone if somebody has a desire what's wrong if I and you can have a desire why we say why your ghost can have a desire even she will come like us y

ou know in one day and because she has a desire she'll take her body you and me are here because we had desires will that's why we are here why to say say such things you know we don't need to judge it not judges no this is the fact there is no judgment so that tantric a baba of yours helped capture the spirit not capture he helped me to release relas yes he used to capture Souls which I came to know later on how I came to know later on is because when I start seeing these pars you know then als

o I felt like they also they are also being like me you know I I'm going to be like them one day if I want you know my desires to be fulfilled any desire maybe to uh to become rich or to have a woman or to become God or to become a Godly person why can't they have us right they also can have then later on I wanted uh this guy to help me by this technique you know how he really Sol so he teaches me so that in my life become easy you know I don't have to call him every time or go to him and ask hi

m please help me or help me help me that but there is a technique see initially yes there there is a technique but if you ask me today I do I need a technique no I don't need a technique but at that beginner stage there is a technique yes there is so and I'm assuming again it's a set of mantras that you say together see technique see mantras are basically you know we use mantras like you know mantra for me again we have spoken like you know there is a method of doing something right when we say

Mantra is basically if we what kind of energy we are using you know it is like a key right it's a combination you know you have a lock you know have different teeth in this so if you have a right kind of teeth the lock will open so if you have right combination of energy right the lock will open so you call it Mantra or whatever you want to call is there a particular dat that you prayed to me at that beginner level technique the one that the tantric taught you for see what happens is you know uh

if you become a Sher to someone uh there is a completely AG of not only of the deities even of the gurus all that will connect to your genetics we'll talk about it much later what happens or how it destroys you understood very interesting point to stop our first episode sir okay sir we'll move into the second one so you're most welcome for this epic podcast audiences uh we are just going to continue this same conversation you are probably going to see this next episode in a few days thank you f

or tuning in thank you for the first episode so sorry for the abrupt end okay no problem okay thank you that was our conversation with Kapil Kumar basar as you can tell it wasn't the easiest conversation for me for multiple reasons but the primary reason being that you don't meet people like this very often since I've met rajashri nandi I'm always on the lookout for people who have practiced some form of Tantra who've had occult experiences because of their practice there's a part of me that fee

ls blessed to have met Kabal Kumar bascar for the sake of my own Journey that perspectives like this exist within the world of Tantra but my biggest blessing is that I get to share these aspects of my journey these people that I'm coming across with you the viewer I know so many of you are fascinated by the world of Tantra because of our rajash nandi episodes please let me know what else you'd like for me to discuss with Kapil Kumar bascar sir he will be back on PRS he will be going through the

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