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Trifactor E38: Forget the United Way, play on the counter. Theatre of Nightmares & GW9 recap.

Remember to Like, Share, and Subscribe! Follow us on all platforms including all steaming platforms Spotify, Google and Apple Podcast: https://linktr.ee/trifactorpod We recap Game week 9, mostly the tactical deficiencies of Manchester United. We talk about title contenders: Chelsea and Manchester City. Is Pep the best manager ever? Skill vs Luck: There are different levels of FPL managers. #manchesterunited #premierleague #mufc #manutd #mufc #ronaldo #ggmu #cristianoronaldo #manchester #manunited #pogba #reddevils #oldtrafford #rashford #united #brunofernandes #cristiano #cr7 #sancho #greenwood #oleout #olein #trifactor #trifactorpodcast #trinipodcast #trinifootball #trinidad #trinidadandtobago #tobago #trinbagonian #fpl #plfantasy #fantasypremierleague #manchestercity #mancity #mcfc #chelsea #manchestercityfc #chelsea #chelseafc #cfc #chelseafans #stamfordbridge #coyb #cfcfamily #tuchel #guardiola

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side not set up in such a way that he would be  able to be his best self without too much issues there that he he wouldn't be his best self right  he would touch wrong in our league all right no c anytime you don't perform just like oh  yes performing guess what oh yeah great thing thinking we expect the man to do it yeah  yeah wait where genuinely expect the mountain and then on top of that now again your gun was in front your cohesion in front getting  disrupted because cr7 come just a score s
o at this plan i hate iman talk in any in  any pregame interview what's the plan for today will it well you know you have to take you  know take the game to them well we'll start on the front foot and maintain you know the i say  yes boy normal games one shift you know so you yeah all right let me see even  if singer shot that again first i was hoping in the game the  way i see that game going was it was bad licks but i thought um liverpool have  been looking shaky so vanda can come back 100 yet
really and truly and then and then when i  see they start konati i was like all right so cristiano and then probably go and get a couple  chances and it did did and they didn't finish it i found the offside was harsh but as you'll  say massage brunotro where he chants and then um rashford two and then you talk about the one where  you rush the volley you rush it and then the next one you snatch it so you drag it just wait if  you get out of the time so yeah you have two chances and i ain't vex
with that because i did  that 50 50 chances it wasn't like glaring misses right but i mean oh gosh the  problem wasn't necessarily is he stopping himself from  again when he last time that would never be the problem will never be uh  how are we going forward oh i'm gonna say that way no it will never be like that's any problem  but that's not the biggest problem it will never be at all you cannot find a way to score a goal  right even in uh even in a terrible performance as as has been the case
or they could find goals  but all right it's uh how do you not get wipe off the feeling and that that has been that  has been the scene last time you get africa i don't know i can't remember luke  trying out no point so i don't united have kept one clean sheet in the  last 18 games and have not stopped an opponent from scoring since the  one win over west ham in march much i could see that i could see that yeah  so all right i want to see what you start to need no because i want suspicion here o
f what  when in march when they clinch it with mm-hmm to blame my wife mcgrath for the  loss no i'm not being i'm not going to why if he goes i'm saying why  are contributing our big refuge because the team was not set up good and he had  no clue what to do right yeah so it come like it'd come like it yeah you take your your  son who's seven years old i expect him to turn around the whole school for you right he  might be willing may be willing but you serving mcguire is like a seven-year-old  t
rying to run a household demand england starting center back make you know you know and it might  sound like if i happen on maguire yeah right yeah it does right but here with those  game of x and as i said earlier people are gay on about fred like oh like like what maguire really  is fred doesn't get fred doesn't get unnecessary scrutiny nobody else called maguire uncomfortable  i don't think that any chance of blame for it weekend he probably wanting better this one this players yeah that's ha
rd to  say well i'm just gonna shoot don't do further they blame everybody they  blame everybody when they're having problems hello and welcome to another episode of trifecta  podcast on this episode we review game week nine nine nine all right we reviewed gamer nine  where um manuel smashed the pieces washed um cr7 um came back to what it seems  now the popping in this to be over hype and not addressing  the problem and showing up um liverpool city and chelsea are very  serious and they seem to
be trying to take um trying to form a gap um i think it was some right  behind them and fourth and then there's brighton leading the charge uh everybody else on like  14 points coming down the line yes it continues it no yeah you won't finish now  now i'll finish i'll finish right the whole point is the system or lack thereof  amplifies maguire's efficiencies as our player and there's no point mistakes  compounded right second goal same thing which was the second one the second one was the  sec
ond one is where you miss the first one is where they they caught i'll be pitched like like  um prime arsenal defense no no it wasn't just that maguire if you notice where we look sure right  just before sarah passed out he come across because mobile leaves our alumni yeah but all  right um who was our guest we had a guest who say um you say football fans have a way of  focusing on like the last mistake yeah but really but really and truly is a it's  a cumulative thing now like because when you
look at mistakes i'm saying well i forgot who  was the augusta state right so was the first goal the first goal was salah to cater right yeah so the first time i saw the goal was really on the  replay and that replay dog terrible it it doesn't make for good watching from the front to the back  because all of a pool do was real simple knocks no not as fun for some reason men was doing somebody  said it actually i think gary never probably articulated or something it was like a half press  man was
the one so it looked like they there was they were on the front foot they were on  the front of it exactly but like all the passes through for that goal the man  who was supposed to be on the man they just met the ball they weren't tight and then  they weren't dropped off so here you are you're not tight enough to try to tackle and engage on  the pass and then you're dropping yeah you're not far enough back that there's no space for  a fast man like salad i don't know i'ma jump in here right al
l right this is i've experienced this  many a morning waking up seven two three and see nationals arsenal smashed the bridge though yeah  this is this is fun compounded one weekend this is extremely naive managing us management of our  team where you could think you could match our team straight up and by the time the sucking of  the team is three or four passes cool it's like it is i've seen it before i've seen it in a um  like a liverpool versus arsenal fight nil where we're still in was on th
e team i was just insane  conquer where you're trying to trying to do your knocks of the pitch but that knocks us like five  years before that knock would have been descended for manu i yeah yeah before they were even  knocking my new horse is low block conquer russia bro olix can't be this naive after how many  years two two and a half years in charge plus it had spells how long how long holiday was  18 or 19 18. i was very five but eighteen andre like brent was seen on on twitter  and like oth
er men were saying all like schools were saying school said best  it had no way let's see what was happening he pushed half against atlanta and said yeah  we find though we can do that we could do that again yeah we will get you we will get to you  is that naive or somebody really making kool-aid i just make one mistake that is it it should only  get dead they seen it right all right knock knock knock they realize that we can't we can't  take the pension they're going back and start right and it
's like okay they realize something is  not where it should be what are they going to do if the funniest part was after the  second goal they're still disabled so of of the so of the squada  play saturday or sunday um who was was the new sign inside manchester  united team on on sunday just res cristiano yeah so i was asking this today so  i finally started seeing all the i seen all the posts more times i meant for  more you know olay take us so far but thing it's time to go i want to understand
yeah what has changed what is the explanation  for this is the same olay the same man he didn't somehow regress into being a wheels  tactician in two and a half three years whatever how come all right so how come all of a  sudden it is this bad because the whole times either you talking yo you know it  wasn't good but i would take it right the results right the whole time you're talking  that with the premise that it will get better that was the premise but but i will say like  yeah in fpl and
thing i used to feel comfortable behind my chest united you could buy attackers  because all right i know even though they defend shaky or they can score goals right all right but  watching the last even the game against atalanta to be honest in that half because they aren't  serious right this is this is the criticism of gasparini in general but whatever side story but  you watch all the games they didn't upset and it's like or it looks like one can actually score goals  really that well either
so it's like every now and then you get a little half chance thing and yeah  greenwood is very accurate to the shots cristiano is a predator in the box so it's just all right  every every game there will be a movement well they could score maybe something on on flukes  but i don't feel i don't feel like i will buy manchester united men and fpl anymore i don't  feel like when i watching manchester united play um the other team need to be worried about  the attack the counter attack or the next a
ttack from it it just so how that happened  though because yeah it can't tell me i mean maybe maybe you tell me yes but you can't tell  me you know you swap out martial for christiano and it leads to this much dysfunction you  swap out no that's it that's it it was not but this guy does um bruno doing some weird things  right why bruno also pivotal and most um guys have failed team you should pick up some um positions  in the box like like he said become the striker at times man um even though a
nd then provide  our sister and when you take on your nightbot you super become the ass the striker now with  christian on the team he picked out some weird spaces i see him going out on the left flank  and then he stifling shawn um rashford right there i don't know he's taken up the spaces and  then he got on the right to have greenwood right nobody actually getting into the boxing for  money you know they're trying to knock in front of the box i don't know don't know what  they're trying to do
it is like um van dyke and i'm just saying thank you you are not two  passes in the box um rashford or [ __ ] and then cristiano try something offside but um but to  be honest even what you just subscribed that's that was my trusty united before as well in my  opinion yeah in my opinion like the game's way so yeah bruno you bruno does make breaking line  running like that but it's usually it's the same thing we're talking about already where  it's just all right that's usually in transition in
transition is when you end up seeing okay  bruno gonna make a run forward and thing and men like fred gonna find him for the first  entry pass and then ting ting ting all right but now it's just they're not really playing  on the transition so what's the name uh uh robert so robert tweets something in response  and maybe that's what it is so it's almost like uh only all is response to the the problem of  how do you beat teams that are low block is he decide to push the front four further  forwar
d he didn't move the he didn't move the whole team up yeah he doesn't just push in front  and create so it just means that right it's almost like manchester united now they have less space to  run into because they're already starting too high and then on the defense they have too much  space to defend so it's just so it's just ev every single to make everything loose i remember  i remember man was highlighting the adam a gay man thing i'm showing friend and then they show  it in the in the game
against everton but if you look at what it is it is every single game every  single game huge on the defense whoever matches whoever is marking a man on the ball when you look  behind him so look at our fullest goal we just talking about with nabi right how the hell are you  telling me just so it wasn't though of all aspects was it from my corner kick like where did that  place start i'm not sure no no i can't phone where does that came from but how do you explain just so  liverpool hit two squ
are balls two vertical pass boom and nothing all of a sudden is is three  on two with fourteen after running two justo one of the places i was watching  replay and i see fred like fred saw it coming at first like my carriage there just and a mancha too boy but it ended up would not  be on the wing and i make a front post your honor boy he's like he see it really trying to recover my hand away on the run right but then i watch  the manhattan who you push i think it was sure i was the closest one
and then he was like oh  gosh yeah yeah but just so i had i have a couple responses on twitter like i say are watching  all these people on twitter so i was um i just used lists all right i'm really following people  because i don't know i don't want to fill up my timeline with too much of what they're talking  about yeah but um so there's all these like data analyst people um that are manchester  united fans and they have men like brent and robert and scams and stuff like that and  and everybod
y talking everybody talking you know you know move on from only a different kind of  cool thing and i'm just saying all right but how come it wasn't this bad lassie manchester united  just come second literally mattress united just come second and then there was a feeling there was  a sensation and games that they you know i forget how far they get and how far they get in europe i  forgot all right but again i'll call group stages i'm sick primarily because  significantly and that's better yeah
because right um just about better tactical  bridge memory but it's just but it's just you're looking at it and it's just like okay was  it seemed like last season was fine margins now this season is like yeah this needs a gene  so i mean do you think his players down tools do you think he did tactics on his back i  think there's more tactics and i wanted i don't want to feel like if his play  has long tools for two reasons one it's not let's say if there's one man buccaneer  players it's only i
t has no reason for them to don't just unless the testing is going  on that i i don't know about the results you could see there's only players right  yourself with a disagreement you tactic something i think the relationship you so start with  them if uh they said walking right and next reason i could say is i don't  think is that the long tools is primarily because everybody cannot hold  up they're not saying yeah buddy you know we relapse here relapse here yeah  you think now i'm not confuses
summarizing but we're so  close to where we need to be and i like all right doggy why  do you want the man to say boy like and what's stopping you from getting there  there's all that players you want more players more more players so see so our next talking point  is sunlight so it's real talking point sir israel so now men want to have kante so kante is the european league with um smalling  lindelof valencia and somebody else but i will steam right but um but i think that  partner i need to r
emember uh yeah i decided you would think that that was team also had  significant spending was it spent badly so the team being well this is not a reflection on oh  he doesn't want to he doesn't want jose what not i was interested within  previous episode i don't know obviously obviously we'll upgrade the team but i  don't know i don't know it's strange manchester united has a very strange relationship with this  united way shipping us so i think that that is that is holding manchester united b
ack  ultimately so you gotta coach like kante understand that that means i mean i i don't want  to be too dramatic about it but it's okay he he is more of a counter-attacking football uh  coach and like and how he sets up teams yes they can hold the ball and all this stuff but  really and truly they are they sit kind of deep and they play very vertical very long and and  could be tall um so it's just so just okay are you talking about content like that all he had  is you all he had issues with m
an with managers styles stylistically so if manchester united care  about style and what's the thing thing all right you don't need to be very and then sorry like they need certain  players to weave their style in so it's not going to be with the same players this  is what i said it's not free for your player yeah all right if you prefer to play  assets anyway the players are like that is either innovative you know this is  not my particular style but i could use this but you could make rashford
play right  wing back kind of yeah you're good yeah it's not that right so anything  like that yeah that's not gonna zero right so manchester united have a  unique problem of all their players peaking all their players all of them hitting all of them  hits in the age way is all right this is it's the next few seasons i know there's no eta project  for them right i think pogba is about 27 28. how old is bruno same thing yeah cavani  is our old man all right old man right them defenders what are
they pushing maguire  pushing um i might be young no i'm okay no i'm gonna check it real quick 27. foreign but yeah that that is five years of getting the  right players around in midfield changing the profile of the players like is sancho that kind of  player for what he want to do like it's just when you want so so in a situation where they need  to get their coach who could actually make the most out of this squad right now then just buy  nissan how would have it how like six forwards how the
y're gonna figure out what to do with  whatever and offload men and like it's just uh to be honest it's a very challenging job to walk  into as well um just play it really hard to fit into this man you said it was am i had a player  a diamond for cannon like this like they bought players but like what i think controller buying  these players i remember that when that was when they say well i was like all right i didn't want  to get excited because like i'm not seeing yet i would win and work but
i'll assume that you know  the real question is sancho buying my mob um where it goes up in one season something happened 10 qualities like holy ball create something  and bruno i guess china is eaten by bruno's engine like when bruno norwich bruno is a lengthy  play from and he can play that kai now um but but sancho is a complete 10 hardly doing a  defensive workhorse and i would do things come from deep link i play you might  see mainly midfielder next week you might see every time a whole o
pposition on  the right wing and i don't think um olay have room in the team for two bruno's quote  unquote for two ten tennis players is i said it before so you said deep counter or  if you're gonna play this high if you want to play higher line play a higher line tighten  up you feel but you're dropping cristiano though that's the bottom line is you know that  cristiano that cristiano by swinging on batman because i don't buy is the mistake ain't  no way and and here well you're all making it
even more you see that i  have a ton game but he didn't start and everybody including foggy come on say we  are the lady best players [ __ ] you put them up right so you know you basically telling  me not think about dropping cristiano mean yeah that that's your impression only then  boy because if you try if you didn't start him on everybody say yeah at the start that that  that's not gonna and and just to be clear just to be clear i am not only bandwagon as much as  i talk about him as the you
know as the the man and politically right with the the things that  society allows rich men to go with all this whatever but as a player people trying to escape  got him as the blah blah blah blah as a player as a player what i'm saying is he has given only a  tactical problem that he is not equipped to solve so it's not even necessary that christian is  doing anything particularly worse than so people thought more pressing dog manchester united wasn't  pressing before that was never manchester
united the team was never high pressing the ball back  all this stuff so talking about presidential is a little bit disingenuous to make it about him  but because of how he plays so he falls into like you said he drops a little wide he's not  really the person like he's not 25 so he's not he's over the energy yeah running right  through long boston run oh hitman true like rashford like he's not doing that so  really and truly okay if he's on the field then it means yes the man who's affected th
e most  is the two there's the two youth men that counter attention potentially he should be playing on  the right and that is sancho and greenwood right they these spaces where so what a striker who  makes the run gives is that there's no space behind behind me there's space behind for men who  like to hold the ball and try to fashion a shirt to actually run into a space there's no space  ronaldo's day he's standing up some way because he's looking to get shut off he's trying to get  right so i
t's just having to play him means okay how do you fit sancho into the team um for  long periods last season right the solution for manchester united was always rashford and  bruno that was the solution have both of them on the field i mean yes imagine no troll monument  would throw in their darling pogba and say easy and they act whatever but for long periods last  season is bruno as long as bruno rashford they'll figure out something rashford will make her run  bruno will hit her best pass at s
ome point or make a lead run and go on the end of it and hit the  sharp head or whatever right you really had that so in my opinion the solution is really keep only  keep only sit back and counter attack that's it does not have the capacity no no they want  a new coach everybody wants a new coach and everybody everybody see what everybody  sees what you see where you working everybody has seen what jesus has  done for chelsea and oh two children right hey you mean right everybody has seen  what
what what what to do for chelsea everybody see what pep do for city thing and and they  wanted they to do they want to have blah blah okay tell me in this team fred mctominay pogba  matic when i'm playing a pep midfield spread my pogba matic of those four who could play in the  two in chelsea in that midfield and do that job on chelsea yeah yeah you just start thinking  about the football on what is the requirement all right yeah all right no disrespect  to bruno can bruno do the tactical work t
hat mason mountains yeah the answer no  the answer is no i think that's his nose these players are them manchester  united have more talented players to me let me get some let me get some quick pushback  i think olay right and this i think i brought up this last week nobody's giving up anything  nobody's saying i'm gonna sit i'm gonna do this job or only telling them you have to do this job  there's none of that andrew so it's hard to see the main card with there's none of it there's none  of it
i don't think it's hard to say they can't because all right you're watching  them play the whole career though bruno at sporting was more of a deeper player  you know all right he was yeah all right yeah yeah i could get bruno i could get bruno there's  none of that there's none of you need to do this bruno there's no everybody okay argument we have  not seen what they could do on those what they want to do instructions instructions correct  more structure that's no point buy those but i just d
on't see i i don't see it so it requires  uh like the profile of the profile of all of these expansive team progressive teams modern  teams there's a bunch of players who are not you know what they used to call in um syria  they call it they are fantasia like you uh yeah they are flay do you like the gold flake  right all right manchester united have a bunch of flippers players who they get on the ball they  want to try and invent something none of pep teams except messi none of so think about p
rep teams think about he's only have one man who allowed  to be on that he says who who the server now is diesel not not not extravagant i don't know if i don't know if any of  my active players fit that profile and that's why it's time to get drunk no yeah that  way what's peppers one is robin jesse robin but now though used to i think that was prime  but i think i think that he's suffering though he why is that a good pastor movement in the  season where he was supposed to be for me um please
season the man used to holy ball and you  couldn't win it all from us it was really crazy and i don't know how pep that was that boy elected  son man get drunk for our whole season another all of these best cultures that  everybody love so there's the part that so in in the chat that i used to be in with zlatan  the thing where i would always speak up on behalf of uh jose is there's this false narrative right  there's this dichotomy people have set up this oh you know there's a lovable rogue and
benevolent  manager tainting and then whose is the opposite of danger so that cool and blah blah and it's  like no but when you really watch it no all of all of the best coaches i have a disgusting  ruthless streak where a man who was our favorite the next day he did the auditing he out the  team no explanation whatever way okay what josie what who's it did that made him disgusting is all  right he was given too much he's given too much of it to the press right but it's like no your watch  bern
ardo mares sunny sterling it's four players four players who straight up they were  the best players on on for a while drop that's the best partnership next season drop  dropped completely totally loans stones and everybody's about club too for sure before  the basa game regina commands cory hella hello there's a anyway there's a there's there's  this there's this picture people want to paint yeah i i hate to tell them  about modern modern coach so so now we're talking about manchester  united n
eed our modern coaches right they need a modern coach because that  will solve all the problems now that will make them know to progress the ball i'll make  them know how to defend in transition and then handle the pr stuff properly and  blah blah blah blah blah blah blah sounds nice sounds nice but i  think i think it's important that at this moment manchester united fans  need to look at their neighbors around so liverpool struggle for how much he is  how much here was anyone well wilderness u
m yeah before before before before  finding club really right so it's just all these steps of so right  now manchester united is on the kenny danglish part of the journey all right nobody if you look at the  record it's true but it's hard for this weekend before this weekend right right because this one process there's no doubt  but that's but that's what what's up but club has a hard to make behind them yeah yeah it's  something to eat yeah this will come with eventually yeah but that's but tha
t's the point  so the point is the the journey of all the fallen giants go through the same for me is always the  same story arc right where the first thing they try to do is to do some kind of quick thing that  will just maintain what it was the next thing is they try to get no we are about winning so they  have an identity crisis so it's kind of like well we could we could either do a project and blah  blah blah or but we are a winning club so they get a winner man quick winner then then after
the  winner it becomes about nas about the heritage you gotta feel it and you're lying there'll be part of  the club you gotta be on the clone right so then they go and get a club legend right and then the  last part is when you're able to say you know what are we actually finding proper recruitment let me  change who are the people behind these scenes let me actually put people in place because before  what you had was um basically what you had well so manchester united specifically all right 
they had a sir alex ferguson size giant right that had his way of working and he surrounded he  was surrounded by people that knew how to work with him et cetera et cetera all right you you  remove that you start seeing well it's not as woven into the fabric of the of the club it  was tied to the man it was definitely not the resources what the jockey was for sure right and  and look barcelona starting their own right now all right that's that's something else but but  they're stopping them rig
ht now they thought it was tied to the barcelona way and okay wait and  see wait wait and see you're going to have to score time started it cannot be that that  um men and it's not even a barcelona is yeah but um but anyway so enough man you  talk for me for me all this talk about who to hire and think thing like i i find  there's nothing enough critical analysis on okay but oled didn't become worse yesterday so  try to explain why what why is this happening now okay and then if you understand w
hy then maybe  that informs your decision for your next manager better so what to do this this is just like i said  the meme again this is just looking over there and saying oh yeah they play front foot football we  won that fight i'll find it um we want that for us has been exceptional like you were praying to jesus and he said i want  that that that's that's i know that one night so i mean obviously so so scams definitely  his game on pulling up all these videos i don't want to play in trivia
you're not too much  sure but there's this um is this guy who is out the man is actually a pastor right but his what  his social media game yeah different you know he only honored so when he do a threat is the man  there's a guy i think i share a link between the guy who do this right about um you think you want  to be out here on these streets trust me you don't want to be able to stream that guy he's actually  out there steph curry father yeah yeah right this man do this funny thread you're  t
alking about um you know out here they're using charcoal toothbrush  now you sure you want to be okay all kind of thing you say right real jokes  right but his threads basically just bring in all these memes dog i was just like yo  yeah this this twitter twitter these are my favorites these are my people i am a heater  like them um so so is this all the names are getting called is 10 ha gang this thing and and  again for me it doesn't really match the squad 10 i have nothing like he had nothing
he could do  with fred mctominay and matic and and van der beek and bruno and pogba that's those six midfield what  is man gonna do with these man they're gonna be they're gonna play two men only who's the  two dude and who who of the two is gonna do so just just all this stuff people saying  for me it's just all this other people saying when okay when you boil it down  the grill and truly that team is made that team is made for a four to four but a deep  line for that for sure you sit back that
allows them to walk like this yeah no complain that  they playing four to four two of course not not just not and to be honest cristiano's a  man should be playing um oh i forget who's this player i was trying to think about i was  just thinking about like a player who come back all and he understand his role his role is now i'm  really the old man i'll get a few minutes here and fight to know nothing and i just start boy i'm  just i'm just here to do my time right that's yeah you know finance
contribution  have you have you ever um no pochettino sobbing mercy messi don't get  stubborn and then those guys are different animals they're not going through that but they like  they don't understand they don't understand that is it twilight or the career horse and  all this what you see i think and and i remember yeah in the time it kind of true when  cristiano had to kind of change his game as a player at madrid yeah if it was anybody  else but zidane telling them to do that he will not ta
ke diana i can see that yeah he  won't he wasn't taken he wasn't having that trust was it was it carlo no all to control something yeah that's like is we feeling it but it's like you're going like it's  like only coming through the arsenal up now like yes yes welcome back all right they'll play later  say oh oh all i will see look what manchester united has over and this is who was making a  point mark was made triple m would make any point about um oh look at this is our manchester  united boar
d that men have been spending right so what manchester united has is a billion-dollar  squad so this this story arc should not be a principle it should not in principle hit  the depths of some of the others yeah because it's quite like if when you look at so people just  talk about look at this squad that ooly and her dog when you start looking at  the team uh brendan rodgers had eventually though no but sakura was a  starter for psja lee man oh gosh that was he ha that was just before he go dow
n the  hill man i understand that you're saying but oh god a little bit that was the engine but yeah  but you compare that too all right four more so when you look at okay look at  manchester united the team respectfully so you see the fred and frederic that's truly  all right that's the spot that's the players who are similar to the other story but all of luke  shaw yang gonna agree i'm sorry but harry maguire um faran um pogba sanchez like all  these players have upside yeah for sure to where
all right it should not it  should not get away manchester united come and eat seventh in the league no  europe think tank thing and all right it shouldn't get there so well that's what's  not that's special would you guys tackle it in my opinion some of the gary  neville will talk about no no um right it is insane at a club like manchester  united have all these first timers surrounding carrick as our first team coach this man all right so and that that is a very good take for  me ole was never
oh he's the tactician to rebuild some song whatever yeah jesse figured for me for  me he was always the coach that was similar to one half of zidane because zidane  doesn't get enough credit for tactics but one is incredibly tactical right but he doesn't  get enough credit people treat him as a people but um olay for me was bro ole was always on that  side of it a man so he's a he's a club legend that will get basically uh a real sour situation  he'll get that right on two fronts you will get t
he pr side right he's take audible money for  sure right honey and he off he offloads sanchez on his ridiculous contract yeah uh valencia  like all these things where it's just okay so you clean up on the pr front because men will  run soft the press was always going to softball only versus if manchester united did not hire am  i like sorry there's real pressure from the wood right yeah so olay was always going  to get grease on the press side and then ollie was always going to get in  my opinio
n he was always going to get some buying from men like pogba because pogba was  a youth when he was still in the system yeah right so he was always going to get some buy-in  from players like pogba in terms of our dogs what does we want to do blah blah blah blah so it  was always going to work on that front and then i always saw him as a kind of yes man with the board  type of he's not the guy that's going to fight men like conte will right so he will go along with the  buyers they want to buy v
an der beek i don't want him but yeah go ahead bring him up um i don't  believe all they wanted sancho i don't think but then that means all right you have  to surround him with the technical people so who who is the who is the mighty right  was the dude who was um clock number two that left oh yeah boy i can't pronounce his  name but yeah you see yeah but that's what oli needed to be surrounded by they needed to do  the whole do you even have a technical director i think they brought in somebod
y they brought in  aditya wonder brought him to the i don't think so right so just it's just all this stuff the  structure is not there because the structure it's right there is no structure because there was a  giant in it there were alex figures in four years like 20 two killing them to grant them i don't  think they have part in each other they might have a say but is that a marina yep she is there  she is bringing in chancellors and like total side yeah serious nah i  ain't too sure about th
at no it's at the beginning of the season i  was all yeah there is the favorite right would they know smash there know it sure no  it's yeah yeah but no no which is very bad no no which is a very very bad team  right so they score these goals but really and truly i've been watching  i've been watching chelsea's performances you know when lukaku and luna play that stuff  yeah and similar to similar to manchester city yet again another team that's dominant in  the ball but are they scoring goals o
h tell them yeah let me get pushed back one time all  right i don't know i don't know if they're gone right and you say about teams  who who don't lose now boy when they get smashed sometimes there's glass jar so i'll still get on that they don't concede  but even that so i mean right i think we are we are actually believe it or not  with pep guardiola we are living through like a golden era of very high  efficiency football anthem either so pep is the best coach that we've ever seen though  lik
e for me flatly he's the best coach ever because and i'm saying this as all right i'm  saying this as if you think about any profession right how the hell does our manager get top  talent of all varying types of personalities to fall in line the fallen line work  together with a bunch of lesser lights and as a unit put out the output how do you  do that how do you do that andre pepe is incredibly rude i know i think even  though he might be like yeah yeah yeah no but you know what is that you kn
ow you imagine  no but it's it's all right you can't help but to fall in line because the results are there for  everybody and here's my push back on jay you might have a sledgehammer ahead am i pointing this  way but yeah results no no we're not talking about the results what you're gonna say we're trying  to say how no andre listen but you don't need it that's not true all right i'll tell you my example  yeah when pep come in pep um the keeper anonymous this guy did not give her one chance no
why  give him a chance for that is incredible why why why would club give balotelli a chance  when he come in andrea but he's not he's giving him a chance performing no no it wasn't it  was it wasn't andre wait let me make the case season after the man bringing falling back to us yeah so that means that if i don't like you  you're gone that's the hammer how vamping hello so don't just take it as don't just  take it call your world student wait don't you have a woman there there's a hammer but yo
u  have to hear me out on this hammer all right all right so there's a hammer men know this standard  all right so the criticism people throw at him as he looked at all these rich clubs so yeah yeah  for sure for me that standard was already there but no problem no for me that hammer existed  without pep big clubs have the resources to replace you if you suck that's that's  part of the part of being a big club is i know next season there's going to be a 100  million dollar man from france or ger
many or whatever that this club is going to buy and  my position up that's partly another big club right competition all right so so for me the  hammer is there already all right what where i'm saying pep gets buying right i have  we have we have literally seen footage of big stars arguing with pep on the sideline aren't  you right where it's it's men who they'll be arguing though right let me get real so that big  players who are just not gonna do what you say i'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna
do it right  but there's a somebody talk about i think it's i think a player said it was my maybe jack relish  or madison somebody interview and they were like there's a when manchester city beat you  when a pep team beat you they were talking about manchester city when they beat you  like it's the score could only be two no but you're feeling like it's 20 nil dog when you  feel you just they run in circles around you you are not on the field you have no chance you're  trying you know you're try
ing to stop right and the point blank period everywhere he goes no  matter and this is it's think about how insane it is uh you're going in germany with a bunch of  german players german culture whatever that is their culture how their culture of how how coach  is supposed to deal with them and all this stuff all these foreign players coming in people  from brazil people whatever whatever and you get in all of these men all the time  to be able to say you know what i buy into this you're ridicul
ous because i've alright so we've  seen the clips of men who finally ridiculous so there's a clip where zapier logs are like dog  come that man all righty yeah you get tired of praising and done about you had to make  sure you do anything i'll take things all right okay i see ribery again i see you  just you see clips i see kdb argument and once actually it was funny time so you see my  argument or whatever but there's the buy-in of no i i know at the end of the day  what he's saying that we sho
uld do it making sense 95 percent of the time we're  gonna smash that team and unless we and if we lose that's just statistical variance that's that's all  really interesting look back at the game we were dominating it it's just that yeah we made these  mistakes and these two movies as part of the game yep really change my perspective you might make  me a better player if um yeah if if the audience exists like it had the tottenham game without the  liverpool game and i champion league nights whe
re i think the point i was making was just all  right we're living through our time right now where is very very very high level right so  we um i think people have been spoiled by this high level so i said before the peak  the peak of football we watch is um pep basso who's in madrid yeah i was i was  peak football where the quality was ridiculous the intensity was ridiculously  nasty that's what you did i hear that era like nobody else had a chance  or not yeah this is good episode oranges but
then you watch all right so then you watch  um pep bayon what's up also ridiculous team right ridiculous team ridiculous quality  smash like same thing when they smash you us we get smashed from every pep hey city [ __  ] city come that season when sunny was jesus like that team seven twelve washington watching i  watching games and i'm just like dog imagine being on that opposing team right now though right it's  just so just okay people have now gotten this idea that yeah you could just find
everybody could just  co-op what are you doing all right we could just learn from him we could live with him and take a  little piece of this here and we could all play pep ball right we could all be modern and smash  and blah blah blah blah blah and for me it's like like you're just kind of losing the the whole  point of any sport is you can use zlata i could use what they could all right you can have the  front weekend though but the answer right you get the answer absolutely yeah so so uh a t
op a top  club used to be and i sound like a old man graham sooners now right but a top club used to be a top  club used to be right there's contrasting styles based on the player makeup some teams had big  men so they're playing big big man football yeah everybody right so so everybody want  to call up this and say this is the way ah but look at your squad can you do that  manchester united like it or not okay they are exactly what they're supposed  to be based on our part of coaches and and ou
r approaches so who's it like  big man it's a bunch of everybody everybody you see you see my company up front you  can't make it feel big boy young boy yeah you i guess i guess did um was it van  gaal that gave rashford his debut yeah maybe he bring it i know i know oh man does it does he laughs i  agree with him after that i just i was like i don't know this is going to go to  your watch your watch manchester united team of players fair enough will say i will take  your point maybe we haven't
seen these men coached by the right coaches yet so we  don't know if they're actually capable of it but as as you are away i'm not really one  to believe and again i'm just saying it's in terms of human psychology and stuff right so  i don't think a human being can go from being an introverted extrovert based on a manager right  for example all right so i don't think you could make a player into something completely different  than he had in his luck already right so i'll look at these mancheste
r united players i look at them  where they were before different clubs before what is their skill set look like at manchester united  i know olay is not coaching them on anything so that means these men are doing this by this is  who they are that's what they want to play like all right can they actually play pet ball two kel  ball con table sarri ball any of these progressive cultures you want like it or not these progressive  coaches if anything is almost like they are like they are the most
restrictive coaches  they've ever been exactly you have to be around yeah yep where the football now is becoming  less about players really it's less about the players the lesser somebody plays more  about the system how well do you how well do you fit my system so therefore it becomes  it becomes crazy to think you could bring in a modern coach and just copy and paste this style  of play on the existing players any of these men matches united men talking about 10 ad blah  blah blah yeah they wi
ll need for that next no because this is where you need to give  credit to damn chelsea yeah chelsea as a club their appointments tend to be on point yeah  they have in their case in their case and like i'm talking about i'm talking this here i don't  have inside knowledge right but the appointment of two ko was a master stroke because someone  did an assessment of the players and style of play that he liked they looked at their current  squad and he is the perfect fit for this squad that's what
they did because essentially they  ended up taking a kochu yes he's a debtor playing three five two three four three  three what he's adapted playing that um he's played with um players like havoc is a  weird he's not really a false nine he is kind of he's just a straight up nine to be honest  but he ruins like a ten whatever right so he's played with players like that before whatever  so they did some assessment and they actually chose our manager who no they set him up for  success based on t
he plays that they have manchester united have not  been doing that they've been they've been doing the they've been  doing what liverpool was doing what intel was doing thinking players  what arsenal was doing what was just basically it's you don't have a system you don't  have a club structure what you have is you have some people that are in administration and then  you hire a coach who takes care of all football activities which used to work in the 60s maybe  in the 80s maybe as late as the
80s they used to work maybe 90s i'll give out even the 90s  it was still weekend but that hasn't been that hasn't been the way top clubs operate for a while  you have to have that structure around managers so where are you going closing guys what else you could talk  about any other um stand out no which is real garbage though well is he open  boys all right let's find somebody against him um yeah whoever so my trip is definitely gonna  be whoever have no witch on a double game week that's why e
volvers are playing and i  definitely told my triple captain already i mean you could have you could have  like if you had talents you can i said yeah you want nothing else you know captain sir so like like i said like i  suddenly in the chat the only it's like if we were talking about the top  men who had uh joshua king hunting all right like that's a big break but i was saying no that's  a different like monk was not on my reader at all okay that is not actually that far fetched  right don't u
nderstand that and i'm saying because of that that i am not in the main club but  but you know some some amount of so no chance in the fields on your radar not mum because i'll tell  you why because like i i go from different like the games within up now so if a man catching  form i might he might come a reader like i i know he was injured exactly so i don't go to these  stats like how much xg unless like somebody bring it to the top like what what all right so what's  about wrong recently like
beside manchester united we are attacking norwich left side right  i had mounted my team earlier this season right but hold on but i got mount because okay  you think about chelsea since two colors there who was the creative player who who  was you ready to play the next andre you took him out for a reason  now i'm saying no he got injured it took him for no reason so literally  my whole draft so when i do my wild card i change my structure to say okay i'm gonna get  big up top one of cristiano
lukaku kane yeah and my my midfield is gonna have mount and somebody  from city griller chauffeur whoever hit the goals this season has been a lot of injuries yeah so now  i had to change the way i have more are going big on defense now because all these midfielders are  injured and banned scoring whatever but mount is not that far fetched really and truly i would  go mount it's just that because lukaku injured okay have it becomes the wait he gonna play  forward against norwich excited right fu
ll moon but all right if lukaku wasn't in jail and i might  not charge midfielder it's his mouth who else it will be um damari gray uh okay what what am i what  i would see is like like i i my wife said that lukaku for sure he said no which yeah and that  that really posed everything it's injuries and it would have been a defender but i choose rsp at  the wrong time yeah but you was watching when you get you got three points a week before yeah up  until now i played every single game same thing
with diaz i buy diaz you get a [ __ ] and then you  come one and girl one point all right but just nah but in in fairness so before when i first started  playing fpl i used to be like this is real lucky saying these men this is [ __ ] how how you could  have right but then all right you start following you start phoney men on twitter and you're seeing  that no no there's reasons why they're choosing these men yes there's variance so every now  and then they wouldn't do anything whatever but like
okay men talk about gray before grey  bang yeah and talk about townsend before he bang uh rafinha has been on everybody radar for the uh  and tony was spoken about from the start dancing very unlucky cheese but just it's just all  these players when you look at it all right outside of outside of men like joshua king um  dennis correll points the um yuri retirement yeah but again that's not unreasonable right  because there's men who hadn't because uh he was like four three or something he was l
ike  people saying you know because i think when um everybody was gonna so at the beginning of this  season everybody bought them and then asked them everybody got the that's another deal for  older guard right so when people see older guard buy they start to sell them so he's four trees  so man i was like i'll buy him for tree as an enabler i think it's for trial with the fighter  whatever um probably 5.3 yes something cheapish right they buy him and then okay you start seeing  wait he's starti
ng to start instead of with a girl i'll have a good run of fixtures yeah sucker yes you know terrible for america yeah anyway  anyways gentlemen watching another episode podcast hope you enjoyed it

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