Unfit (2020) | Donald Trump Documentary | Full Movie | Malcolm Nance | George Conway

(eerie music) (gentle piano music) - In the armed forces, there's a nuclear weapons program called the Personnel Reliability Program. Do you have personal defects? Do you have financial problems which could compromise you? Do you have a problem with infidelity? This is the program where they screen you to see if you can be trusted to hold an M16 to guard the truck that might carry a nuclear weapon. Not that it will, that it might. That also is the program where they determine whether you're an A

ir Force missile flight officer, whether you can go down into a bunker and be responsible to turn the keys on a Minuteman-III missile. - [Announcer] The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - That is an entire scaled evaluation program that shows your personal reliability to carry out your orders and to do the highest risk things like fly a B-52 bomber or B-2 bomber and drop a nuclear weapon. The President of the United States doesn't have to meet any of these parameters, none of them whatsoeve

r, because the electorate choosing you clears you into all of these programs. (crowd cheering) We have a president of the United States who was duly elected, he was put into office, given the great faith of the people who voted him in. - I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear. - I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear. - And if we look at the great presidents of the United States, there's one unifying thing: they maintained the continuity in how the Constitution was upheld and defended. - [John] So

help me God. - So help me God. - Congratulations, Mr. President. (crowd cheering) (upbeat music) - At first, it was just political name calling and insults suggesting Donald Trump was a lunatic. - This man is a pathological liar. - Guarantee I have a vocabulary better than all of 'em, I know I have an IQ better than all of them. I'm very highly educated. I know words. I have the best words but there's no better word than stupid. Oh, I don't know what I said. I don't remember. I could stand in t

he middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters, okay? - [Man] But more recently, the conversation about the president's mental state has taken a more serious tone. - I can't explain this crazy behavior, but I can call it crazy. - [Donald] We've taken this big, beautiful ship and it's being turned around very quickly. - [Man] I'm not a psychologist or a psychiatrist but the guy needs therapy. - USA! USA! I am the chosen one. - [Man] Almost everyone seems to have an op

inion. Could Donald Trump be unfit for office? (chattering) - Good evening. Thank you guys for coming. I know our first official press briefing is gonna to be on Monday but I wanted to give you a few updates on the President's activities. But before I get to the news of the day, I think I'd like to discuss a little bit of the coverage in the past 24 hours. Yesterday, at a time when our nation and the world was watching the peaceful transition of power, some members of the media were engaged in d

eliberately false reporting. Photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way, in one particular tweet, to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the National Mall. No one had numbers. This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in person and around the globe. Even the New York Times printed a photograph. - Why put him out there for the very first time and utter a falsehood? Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility o

f the entire White House press office on day one. - No it doesn't. Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. You're saying it's a falsehood and they're giving Sean Spicer, our Press Secretary, gave alternative facts to that but the point remains that there is... - Wait a minute, alternative facts? Look, alternative facts are not facts, they're falsehoods. (whimsical music) - My name's George Conway. I'm a lawyer, I'm a litigator. I principally practice securities litigation. I've argued appea

ls including a big case in the Supreme Court. My wife was Donald Trump's Campaign Manager and now is Counselor to the President. - And he said a lot about these instances. - I was a Republican since probably about 1980 when Ronald Reagan was elected president. I voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and I almost took a job in the Justice Department myself to run the Civil Division of the Department of Justice. Donald Trump wasn't my first choice among the Republican nominees but I was hopeful that he w

ould calm down and get better as time went on. He started to show a little more discipline. He would only go off the rails every third day instead of every day, but the problem was once he got into the supreme position of power, he lost some of his incentive to be disciplined and I'm thinking at this point in time, "What is wrong with him?" Donald Trump is like a practical joke that got out of hand. I mean, that's the problem. I mean, I didn't go into the administration for a lot of reasons but

the fundamental reason was it was a mess. I guess I must've been googling Trump and mental health because I clearly thought there's something seriously wrong with him and I came across an article in Rolling Stone magazine, Is Trump a Malignant Narcissist? And a number of people like Dr. Gartner were interviewed and as soon as I read that I realized that's it. You cannot understand his presidency without knowing this. - My name is John Gartner. I'm a psychologist. I taught in the Department of Ps

ychiatry at Johns Hopkins University for 28 years. I've written some books and I'm the founder of Duty to Warn, an organization of mental health professionals that believe that Donald Trump should be removed because he's psychologically unfit. My name is Lance Dodes. I'm a psychiatrist and a psychoanalyst. I've spent most of my research career looking at compulsive and addictive behavior and I've become interested in the importance of psychology in politics in recent years because of the threat

to our country. - My name is Justin Frank, a psychoanalyst and a psychiatrist. I've been in practice in DC for about 40 years. Is Donald Trump fit to serve as the President and Commander in Chief? I can answer that with one word, no. Trump is a sociopath, a sadist, a con artist, a racist, a misogynist, a sexist in general, and I think it is a problem. - How dare liberals, people on the left, try to undo democracy by accusing a president of being mentally ill without any basis? Look, these psychi

atrists now who are trying to diagnose without ever having met the man. - This is not the first time the left has gone at Republicans. They did the same thing to Barry Goldwater, they did the same thing to Ronald Reagan. - Over 1,000 psychiatrists diagnosed Barry Goldwater and said he was mentally ill, they were then rebuked by the American Psychiatric Association and said, "Do not make diagnosis without seeing the patient." And they continue to do it today. (giddy music) - [Narrator] The electi

on campaign's in full swing in New Hampshire, bellwether state of the nation. It goes to the polls on March 10th and growing support for Goldwater. - So, the Goldwater rule has an interesting history. In 1964, Barry Goldwater ran for president and a now defunct magazine, Fact Magazine, did a survey of psychiatrists and published an article saying psychiatrists think that Goldwater is unfit. Goldwater sued them and he won and as it turns out, actually, he deserved to win. It was libelous. He was

not unstable. And the psychiatrists who wrote those statements about Goldwater, it's important for people to understand the history of our field, this was in the '60s when Freudian psychiatry really ruled the roost. - This is what I've discovered. We are constantly bedeviled by powerful, unconscious forces in our beings. - [John] And so their explanations were things like he's a latent homosexual, he's been scarred by his potty-training, he has an unresolved Oedipus complex. - [Narrator] Based o

n unconscious hate caused by childhood jealousy. (upbeat music) - Freudian psychiatry, though it has many important and positive aspects and helped move the profession forward, it's not been used well in terms of its analyzing public figures. I actually interviewed the last living member of the ethics committee that formed the Goldwater rule and he said these were obviously wild speculations, they weren't founded in fact, and so they embarrassed the profession because they were really idle specu

lations and so that's why they passed that rule. He said to me, "We never intended it to be a gag order," meaning that psychiatrists could never speak up about public figures, "We just didn't want them making unfounded statements." - The Goldwater rule today has been incorrectly extended and the incorrect part about it is that it now is being used to suppress speech about things that are knowable. It's as nonsensical as saying an orthopedic surgeon shouldn't be able to watch somebody in a footba

ll injury and say that person probably has an ACL tear, he can say it because he's an expert in the field. Something happened, he observed it. - And what people need to understand is that actually the psychiatric interview is the least reliable method of making a diagnosis because our current diagnostic system, the DSM, is based on observable, behavioral criteria. Well, when you meet with someone they can lie to you. So, they can say, "Oh, I never did that," or, "I don't do that." But if you can

actually observe their behavior, if you can follow them around, if you can watch them on TV, if you can read their social media, if you could talk to all their significant others, you'd probably get a much more reliable indicator of how they behave. - I'm not concerned about anything with the Russian investigation because it's a hoax. That's enough. Put down the mic. - Mr. President. - I am more confident in my diagnosis of Donald Trump than any diagnosis I've ever made before because I have mo

re information. - By outward appearance, you're 10 years older than you were a year ago. - Some weariness has bit at my bones. - It's not true that having any kind of mental health disorder would make someone a bad president. One of my favorite books is a book called "Lincoln's Melancholy", about how Lincoln's being a depressive personality is part of what allowed him to win the Civil War. He had a capacity to endure mental suffering that was baked into who he was and so the enormous burden of t

he Civil War was something he was actually able to endure. - I have seen what's happened in this last four years when in my state, when people lose their jobs there's a good chance I'll know them by their names. - Bill Clinton, I wrote a biography of Bill Clinton, about how his hypomania was part of what energized him in terms of his charisma and his creativity, it also had to do with his impulse control problems and his hypersexuality, so it was a double-edged sword but it doesn't disqualify so

meone from being president if they have a psychological disorder, but Donald Trump shows clear signs of the most severe personality disorder, it's called malignant narcissism and was first introduced by Erich Fromm who escaped the Nazis and spent a lot of his life trying to understand the psychology of evil. And he formulated this diagnosis of malignant narcissism which has four components: narcissism, paranoia, anti-social personality disorder and sadism. I think everybody knows Donald Trump's

a narcissist by now. - I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created. I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me. - Who are you consulting with consistently so that you're ready on day one? - [Donald] I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain. - But it's the other three components that make him truly dangerous, because many politicians are narcissistic but he's also paranoid. So all of his crazy conspiracy theories. - The state of Hawaii rel

eased my official long-form birth certificate. - [Moderator] The birth certificate You continued to tell the story and question the president's legitimacy in 2012, '13, '14, '15. - Yeah. - How about this one about Ted Cruz's father? - [Donald] His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to Oswald's being shot and nobody even brings it up. - And his sense of being a victim. - [Reporter] Mr. Trump turned his sights on Google tweeting, "They have it rigged for me and others "so that almost all stor

ies and news is bad." - And his demonization of anyone who disagrees with him. - Nasty guy. Now I know why he doesn't have one endorsement from any of his colleagues. - All right, John, I get to respond. - [Moderator] Senator has picked from the buffet there. - He's a nasty guy. - These are all signs of a paranoid process, anti-social personality disorder, or what used to be called psychopathy or sociopathy. It's constant lying, well, he's the most documented liar in human history, I think, at t

his point. It's violating the rights of other people and exploiting other people. So, sexual assault would be violating the rights of other people, not paying your bills, or defrauding people through Trump University would be an example of exploiting other people and it's breaking laws and breaking norms. Well, he's broken every norm of the presidency, that's one of the reasons he's so out of control. There's certain norms we thought no one would ever break but it's part of his personality disor

der to break norms and to break laws and it's a lack of remorse. He has no guilt or anxiety about the destructive things that he does. - Impeachment for that? It was beautiful. It was just a perfect conversation. - And the fourth component that Erich Fromm identified is sadism, truly taking pleasure in harming, humiliating, and degrading other human beings. If you read his tweets, I wrote an introduction to a book about his tweets, I had to read to read thousands of his tweets and they literally

made me ill because it was just one vicious attack and humiliating insult after another after another. I was like how can someone even come up with thousands of vicious things to say about so many people? But he enjoys degrading and humiliating and insulting other people. - I do think that we have enough evidence that most psychiatrists would feel like it's important to warn about Trump. We have a duty to warn. - Psychologists, and really all mental health professionals, have the duty to protec

t society if there's a risk to society. (eerie music) - So the Tarasoff case was in the 1970s. A patient said to a psychologist, "I'm gonna go home and murder my girlfriend." The psychologist didn't warn the potential victim and the patient went home and killed the girlfriend and it's now the law in all 50 states that if you are aware that a patient might be a danger to someone, confidentiality goes out the window, and confidentiality is one of our core values but it's more important to warn som

eone who could be harmed than it is to maintain even our core value of confidentiality. Trump is not my patient, he's not saying I'm gonna go kill my girlfriend but the number of people who are at risk, the number of people who could be harmed isn't one person, it's hundreds of millions of people. So if we didn't speak up, that would be the morality. What annoys me about the Goldwater rule the way it's being interpreted now, is it's being interpreted as if we are being unethical by speaking out

and warning the public when in fact I asked this question to whom will history be kinder? Those who spoke up during the age when Trump rose, or those who were silent? - I want the cleanest water on Earth. I want the cleanest air on Earth, and that's what we're doing and I'm an environmentalist as you, a lot of people don't understand that. I have done more environmental impact statements probably than anybody that's I guess I can say definitely because I've done many, many, many of them more tha

n anybody that's ever been president, or vice president, or anything even close to president, and I think I know more about the environment than most people. (upbeat music) - Gaslighting is a crucial tool of abusive personalities. It is lying to someone in a way that makes them doubt their own perception of reality. - I'm Dr. Ramani Durvasula. I'm a professor of psychology. It's an interesting place where the origin of this term gaslight came from, it came from what was a play in the '30s and th

en became a film called "Gaslight", and it was about a man who was slowly trying to drive his wife mad. - A moment ago, the gas dimmed as it does when someone turns on another light in the house. Did you turn on another light, Elizabeth? - No, ma'am, there's no one in the house but us. - [Ramani] The gaslights kept getting turned up and down and he was denying having done it. - You're going to see a doctor, Madam. - No. - [Husband] More than one doctor tomorrow morning. - Very common sorts of ga

slighting statements are things like, it never happened that way, you must be losing your mind. They'll literally say things happened that didn't happen, I didn't do that, I didn't say that. Many people call gaslighting a form of emotional abuse because what you're really doing is setting out to confuse another person. When you confuse someone like that, you really do almost render them more vulnerable to you and actually easier to coerce because now they don't really know which way is up. It's

as though you've turned gravity off and turned them upside down. - I don't know if you remember the point where Trump said, "Listen, don't pay attention to what you're seeing, "don't pay attention to what you're hearing." - What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening. - And it's interesting because as human beings we're actually vulnerable to this. There's a famous experience in social psychology called the Asch Experiment. The Asch Experiment is they show lines on a scree

n, one is clearly longer than the other and they ask them which line is longer and they get it correct 100% of the time. - That's two. - Then you bring in four confederates who work for the experimenter but you pretend they're also in the study as subjects and they all say that the shorter line is longer. - [Man] Three. - [Three] Three. - Three. - Three? - 50% of the time the person will reverse themselves and say, "You're right, the shorter line is the longer one." We're very subject to the inf

luence, our reality testing is very subject to the influence of social pressures. So when he does these things that are blatantly destructive and disordered and yet people act as if they're normal and they poo-poo these observations, eventually we begin to quest ourselves and think, "Oh, maybe I'm wrong. "Maybe it actually is normal." - What has been so disturbing is that we've discovered, at least some of us, that it's much quicker to demolish a building than to build one and Trump understands

that and I think he can demolish a lot of our faith as a nation in our institutions, he can demolish the effectiveness of institutions, he can certainly psychologically confuse and gaslight people like nobody's business. (cameras clicking) - Thank you. Thank you very much. I said during the transition, I'll say it up here, I think there's been, at times, a disconnect between the way we see the president and how much we love the president and the way some of you perhaps see the president. I certa

inly see the American probably see the president the way I do, but we wanna get that message out there and to use a Wall Street expression, there might be an arbitrage spread between how well we are doing and how well some of you guys think we're doing and we're gonna work hard to close that spread. My name's Anthony Scaramucci. I spent 11 days in the White House as the president's Communications Director. Trump is wickedly smart. The guy made it to the American presidency, he's not stupid. You

can hate Trump 'cause he says assholeish things, okay? And he's an obnoxious guy at times, but what you're missing is that he's now a reflection of the cultural zeitgeist, he's an avatar of that anger. So when he's lighting people up on Twitter, there's a very large group of people in the United States that are actually giggling and they enjoy it. - [Interviewer] What are you earliest memories of Donald Trump? - My earliest memories of Donald Trump are actually 1983, during the Christmas season

I visited the Trump Tower. - [Narrator] The Trump Tower when it's completed, will be $400 million worth of high-priced apartments, commercial space and boutiques. - What's happened is phenomenal. I've never seen anything to the extent that I have in New York. It now, from a real estate standpoint, has probably become the hottest city in the world. - That building was a brand new building in the center of New York and it was a lot of publicity and fanfare. It's got brass and a ton of pink marble

and it's a modern structure, and he did a great job marketing it. He sold out the condominiums and he built for himself a triplex which literally looks like Louis XIV smoked crystal meth and then decorated it for him. I mean, it's ridiculous. Walk into his office, he had a ton of pictures of himself on the wall, ton of magazine covers and all that sort of stuff. I read "The Art of the Deal" when I was in law school when it first came out, and I said, "Okay, this guy's got it goin' on." - Ladies

and gentlemen, please welcome the author of this book right here, "Trump: The Art of the Deal", Donald J. Trump. (audience applauding) At the beginning of the show, I said you either love him or you hate him. Now, do you find that that's true or does everybody love you or does everybody hate you? - No, most people love me and a few really have great distaste for me, David. - And why is it that those people, that few, would not care for you? Because you're so successful? - I can't imagine. No, no

, I don't think so. It's just I sort of speak my mind a little bit, a little bit like you in that respect. - Yeah. - A little bit like you. - A little bit like me. - Not too much, hopefully. - What were you like as a kid? - Very normal in a lot of respects, but a very solid child. - [John] He grew up in Queens. His father was making good money as he was being raised. He built a lot of lower middle-income housing on the border of Brooklyn and Queens. - Fred Trump was a successful businessman, he

made a lot of money and he was smart at what he did. However, Fred Trump was a dishonest, crooked guy, who stole from the federal government, who wouldn't allow black people to move into his apartments. His father said, "You've got to be a killer. "You've gotta be king, you've gotta be tough," and he took that in. - Is what you do something you've always wanted to do? I know you're father was and still is a real estate developer. - My father was in real estate business and I've been in that and

other businesses and different things. I like what I'm doing. I just enjoy what I'm doing. I love the real estate business. I learned a lot from my father, more than anything else, I learned a lot. - He wanted to make a name for himself and he believed early on his career that having a lot of publicity and a lot of profile was gonna be good for the sales and marketing of his apartment buildings and condominiums and things that he was doing, but he also wanted to have a unique celebrity persona a

nd so Howard Stern represented that for him. (funky music) - You once said that the best way to treat a woman is to treat her like doody. - No, I never said that - You never did? - But it was attributed to me. - So you never did say that? - No, I never said that but it was attributed to me. - [Howard] I see, so, you treat women with respect? - I can't say that either. - All right, good, all right. Somewhere in between. - [Donald] I do. I treat women with great respect. - Treat women somewhere in

between respect and doo-doo. - My initial impressions of Donald Trump, like everybody else, I was starstruck. Back then, speaking about women that way it was more the norm. - Where's Marla go? - I think we have to put Marla right up here. - Come on, let's do that. Let's take down Frederique. - I went to a fundraiser right after Ivana and Donald divorced so I was excited that he was there. I went up to him and I said, "Hello, I'm a huge Howard Stern fan "and I wanted to introduce myself." And he

said, "Why would I speak to you "when there's so many beautiful women here? "I wouldn't even let you suck my dick." (gaping music) - One of the problems here is that Donald Trump doesn't have empathy and that's not a modest statement, he literally has no empathy. He does not feel emotions like care and... - [News Anchor] He's a sociopath? - Well, as I've said since 2016 in The New Yorker when he started to run for president, yes, he is a sociopath. There is no question. He's a sociopath meaning

he neither has a conscience nor does he have a heart. - You make it sound like "Blade Runner" when the replicant knows you've found him out and he doesn't feel anything anyway. - He doesn't feel anything. (gun firing) - Empathy is a normal human trait, it's actually normal in all mammals. It starts in childhood with a parent and a child and it continues throughout society, it's what glues people together instead of just fighting against each other. Almost everybody has empathy, but not everybod

y. People who don't have empathy are the people that we call sociopaths or psychopaths. - That sounds like a very destructive business philosophy. - They often were treated cruelly. They were treated without empathy themselves. - You talk in your book about getting even, the importance of getting even. Is revenge sweet? - I believe strongly in getting even. If somebody has hurt you, if somebody has gone out of their way to hurt you, I think that if you have the opportunity you should certainly g

o out of your way to do a number on them and I've had more criticism about that one statement in my book than any other statement, the clergy has called, the ministers, the priests, the rabbis, they've all said, "What a terrible thing to say, "that's against our teachings." I just believe it, I believe in an eye for an eye. - If you don't have normal empathy, you're going to mistreat people because they don't matter, there's an abscense of loyalty. The absence of loyalty is a sign of anti-social

personality disorder. Loyalty at its best means I care about this person, I value this person, so I will stick by this person. If you have a person without empathy, what you find is that loyalty disappears as soon as the other person crosses them. As soon as somebody says, "I'm not with you anymore," or, "I disagree," it flips from you are the greatest person to you are a horrible person, you are a worthless person, and I will attack you, I will destroy you. - Some of the people that were most

loyal to me are people that I didn't think would be, some of the people that were least loyal to me are people that are... - You gotta. - I think I would've treated 'em differently, I think I would've treated different groups differently, I would've wiped the floor with the guys weren't loyal, which I will now do which is great. You know I love getting even with people but, - You're gonna get even with some people because they... - Yeah, if given the opportunity, I will get even with some people

that were disloyal to me. - Here comes one of the things they say about you is that there ticks within you a vindictiveness. - The people who climb to the top by squashing other people, those are what we call a successful sociopath. Sociopaths can be successful because they are conmen. If you're a conman, you're convincing them that you are much better, greater, more caring, more honest than you are. - My name's Rick Reilly, I'm a golf writer, and I've known Trump for 35 years maybe. (upbeat mu

sic) Trump is among our best golfing presidents. - [Crowd Member] Oh, nice. - For a 72-year-old guy, Trump is a good golfer. He's got a really good, powerful move through the ball and he hits it a long way and his putting is good, he's a very wristy sort of old-school putter. Cheating in golf at all is completely wrong because it's the easiest sport to cheat at. There's no refs, there's no umps. You could cheat every shot if you wanted but it reveals your character that you don't, or it reveals

your character that you do and he cheats all the time. - I actually played golf with him with Anthony Anderson one day. - [Seth] Gotcha. - And we were all playing together and we clearly saw him hit a ball, hook a ball, into a lake at Trump National in Jersey and his caddy told him he found it. (Seth laughs) - People don't know this but he jerry rigs his golf carts to go really fast. He has somebody do that. Only one golf cart at every course he owns goes about 30 miles an hour and that's his, i

t's number one, everyone else goes about 15 to 18 miles per hour. So he can hit the ball, zip he's out, and you're still, "Hey, where's Trump?" You hit, you hit. By then he can kick the ball, move the ball, take it out of lakes, whatever. There's your ball. Usually, you would put a mark down and pick up the ball. What he does, he secretly puts the marker on the end of the putter and then he looks like he's marking it but really now the mark is three feet closer, that's a way easier putt. He trie

d to cheat Tiger Woods in a round of golf once, Tiger freaking Woods. He's off to the right. He's playing against Tiger Woods. They each have a partner. He chokes one flat into the water, splash. He says to his partner, "Throw me another one, they didn't see." I'm like, "That's Tiger Woods." - Tiger, we are inspired by everything you have become and attained. The job you've done is incredible. - He's telling people he's won club championships that he didn't even play in. He won a club championsh

ip that's being played in Bedminster, New Jersey, when he was playing in Philadelphia and he called in and said, "Hey, what won the club championship today?" And the guy goes, "Ah, 75, Joe Shmoe won it." "Oh, I shot 73 today, make me the champion." And the pro's like, "Ha, what?" "Yeah, make me the champion. "I played better here today." So, Joe Shmoe's name comes off the wall, maybe one of the great moments of his life and Trump's name goes up and this has happened over and over again. And then

he won at least six or seven times tournaments where he was the only guy playing in the tournament. He'll buy a new golf course, play the first round by himself and Melania, and unless Melania gets hot, he's gonna be the winner and so if you go to any of his courses his first few years it's just him because no one else played. As a writer, I love Donald Trump. I loved him 'cause he would say anything. He was like, "Yeah, I banged Marilyn Monroe "and I punched out Sinatra." And we're like, "Yeah

, what else you got?" Because he'd say anything. But as an American, I don't like him at all. He terrifies me. If he's gonna cheat at golf, you don't think he's gonna cheat on his taxes? You don't think he's gonna cheat on his wives? You don't think he's gonna cheat to win an election? You don't think he's gonna cheat to stop an investigation? You don't think he's gonna cheat to break rules, to get information from foreign countries? My God, he just admitted he does it. - I'm Bill Kristol. I cam

e to Washington over 30 years ago to work in the Reagan Administration. I was Chief of Staff to the Vice President in the George H.W. Bush White House so I worked in government, worked in some Republican politics, edited The Weekly Standard for a little over two decades. - I'm Richard Painter. I'm a law professor at the University of Minnesota. I was the Chief White House Ethics Lawyer for President George W. Bush. Most of my life I was in the Republican party. - I'm Malcom Nance, a former U.S.

Intelligence officer. Started out actually in cryptology and sort of an expert in all things related to foreign intelligence operations, counterterrorism, and now Russian intelligence activities in the United States. - What a great looking group. We're taking some pictures? - We can just move right along. - The traits that are important in a leader vary but there are some absolute constants and the way to look at them is the titles and the core values that we see for each armed service, honor, c

ourage, commitment, country, duty, service above self, excellence in all that we do, always faithful, always prepared. These are some of the core values that we entrust in our national military leaders and those should be the same core values that we should have in our political leaders. - To be a good leader, a person has to first of all recognize that other people have rights and individualities that you need to take into account. You appreciate who they are and what's important to them. The p

roblem arises in leadership when you have a person who does not appreciate that others are there as independent folks but who are there to serve you. - We expect leaders to bring people together, to try to unify the country as best they can. The number of attacks that this president is making on Twitter are astronomical, and then the attacks on the media on top of that. - I've never really liked the Trump is an idiot, Trump is a buffoon aspect of the anti-Trump rhetoric. I think it does diminish

more than it should some of the real dangers he poses. - [Interviewer] Do you think Donald Trump is fit to serve as Commander in Chief? - No, he's not fit to serve, I think either by character or judgment, I don't agree with his policies, I don't think he has much experience, he doesn't know how government works but that can all be tolerated or survived but in terms of his just basic character and judgment, his basic sense of putting the country first, at least in key moments, every politician

has moments where he cuts corners and watches out for himself or herself but Trump is the opposite. I think it's a miracle when he actually seems not to simply put his own narrow interests first, and the recklessness, and the demagoguery, so undercuts democratic norms and constitutional processes that it's dangerous to the country. - Why do they hate his guts? They hate his guts because he represents a threat to their status quo. It's a very weird salad because it doesn't fit in the box of the t

raditional Republican establishment or the Democratic Party. I mean, he is a reflection of our politically correct society. If I'm not allowed to say what I'm thinking and everyone's got me in a tight box, when I go into the voting booth I'm gonna vote for him. The more politically correct the society is, the greater the reaction formation is of the orange man comes to town. - Why I support Trump is pretty easy. He is the only president in the last probably 40 years that has been for the people.

- I had an epiphany at my first Trump rally. I tell people that it was a reconnection to my life because I grew up in a blue-collar situation and I hustled my way to some dough, went to Tufts and Harvard Law School, I worked at Goldman, built two successful hedge fund businesses, started to become independently wealthy and then what ends up happening is you pick up the collective biases of the people around you and so you don't really have a good ear to the ground. And so when I got to the firs

t Trump rally, I crossed the security perimeter, went in and started talking to people, and I was like, "Oh, my God, "Mr. Trump is talking to the people I grew up with." And these are people that economically desperate. We went from a economically middle class, and lower middle class, working class aspirational society to a desperational society in 35 years and I can explain what happened through the forces of trade and globalism and our mistakes about repositioning manufacturing away from the U

nited States, all of those things that we did, some of it accidental, some of it intentional, left a very large group of people feeling very, very desperate about their economic aspirations and their wellbeing and so that first Trump rally I was like, "Whoa, there's a lot of people out here "that are in a lot of pain and I missed it." They have economic anxiety and they are going to vote to reject the status quo, it's an anger-based vote and you have to work on policy solutions to fix that, you

have to heal that because when you create a breach in the social fabric of the society, you create a systemic rise of populism and you get all of these unintended, or unexpected political outcomes. I didn't see it myself, but Trump saw it and so that's something you have to give him credit for. Here is a billionaire so you'd have to say this is a completely out of touch dude but he saw it, I did not see it and I grew up with it. (gentle piano music) So, take a step back. We racked up $18 trillio

n of debt, we killed a million people in the Middle East, we wounded 70,000 servicemen and women, 7,000 servicemen and women have died and 22 are dying a day in the United States from suicide related to posttraumatic stress. Our educational system K-12 is completely uneven and broken, our infrastructure completely failed and broken, we have no industrial policy, there's nobody in the United States as a public servant that has a 10-year plan, they don't even have a five-year plan. So the American

population is looking at the situation and saying, "Wait a minute, this is not working for me." The stock market crashes and the very big bank is about to go out of business, the government sends them $1 trillion to protect them what about me? And so people feel that the system is rigged and the system is unfair towards them. You call these people deplorable, white ethnocentrics, white nationalists, whatever those knuckle dragging misnomers, those adjectives of attack on these people, they tune

you out. You'd be better served going into those areas of the country and listening to them and say, "Hey, you know what? "I don't think you're a racist "or you're a white trash person, "I think you're a person "that really just wants your family to have a better life "and as a public servant, "I'm gonna try to come up with policies "that help you do that." David Axelrod said to me, "Remember, Anthony, people will vote for somebody "they won't like. "They gave Richard Nixon a landslide, nobody

liked him, "they gave him a landslide. "What they don't like doing "is they don't like voting for people that dislike them." See the difference? So you're standing at a podium calling people deplorable, they're like, "Okay, give my vote to the orange man. "Let's see how he does." (crowd cheering) - I think Trump speaks to people in a really very good way. He is appealing to people who are hurt, angry, they feel bypassed, ignored, and not taken seriously. The problem is that he doesn't speak to t

he humanity of the people who don't agree with him. - They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. We're building that wall and it's going up very big. (crowd cheering) - If you have any racism in you, Trump's gonna let you bring it out. I get to be a jerk again. I get to be 1956 America again. - It's not a racist, this guy treats everybody like shit. He's not a racist, okay? It doesn't matter if you're black, white, lesbian, transgender, he treats everybody the same. He went

to Elton John's wedding, he's an asshole, that's different from being a racist. He's obviously an asshole. - It's so sad that so many people have let their worst side come out through Trump. - Get the fuck out of here! Our country, motherfucker! Our country! Go fucking cook my burrito, bitch! Trump! I love Trump! Fuck you! - Are you racist? - I am the least racist person that you have ever met. I look at my African American over here. Look at him. Are you the greatest? You know what I'm talking

about? I have a great relationship with the blacks. I've always had a great relationship with the blacks. I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they're in a place like this? They'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks. - I resisted for quite some time the notion that he is racist. It's more a function of his narcissism than anything else, it's not really racism. That was sort of the way I viewed Trump, that he doesn't like them because they oppose him and tha

t's really what it's about, it's all function of his narcissism and when he says things that were supportive of some of those bad people at Charlottesville, that's again a function of his narcissism because the people who were attacking those people were attacking him. - You had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, I s

aw the same pictures as you did. - [Crowd] Russia is our friend. The south will rise again. - You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of the statue Robert E. Lee. To them, a very, very important statue. - [Crowd] You will not replace us. - My mother came from the Philippines. She came to the United States in the late 1950s so I'm half Filipino and the other half is some mixture of Irish-Scottish, I'm classic American mutt. I think of myself as an American and I ju

st assume people aren't racist and I tend to forget that, well, some people are and that's the lesson with Trump is I just gave him the benefit of the doubt. - These are people that if they don't like it here they can leave. - But what he said about those members of Congress, it brought back that memory of the one time I really remember, wow, there really are people like that here. I was with my mother when I was a teenager in a parking lot in Massachusetts when "Go back to your country." Sorry,

and I found that to be, and it really came home to me then. This man is a racist, he is evil. - The Democrat Party is now being led by four left wing extremists who reject everything that we hold dear. - [Crowd] Send her back! Send her back! Send her back! Send her back! Send her back! - He's a racist beyond any question. - [Crowd] USA! USA! - The first time I saw Trump at a rally telling the crowd that he loved them but he also hated everybody else, when I saw him leading them in a loyalty oat

h using emotions in that way I realized that this was not politics as usual. - Raise you right hand, everybody. Do you swear that you're going to vote for Donald Trump tomorrow? Raise that hand. I love you, I love you. - He had talked about being president for many, many years with his advisor of the time, Steve Bannon, who is a White Nationalist, an unabashed racist. Steve Bannon considers himself a student of history and he likes to think that he knows the cycles of history in terms of resentm

ent and racism and in this case, he was correct. - [Narrator] This is Italy in 1922. These marching men are charter members of a new Italian political party, the fascists, founded and led by a flamboyant ex-editor, ex-army corporal, ex-socialist, Benito Mussolini. His movement numbers a million members including uniformed Black Shirts and Mussolini successfully forces his leadership on the Italian king and people. Despite the fact that 80% of Italians still support the constitutional monarchy, h

is threats of violence and revolution win him the office of Premier. On his first anniversary, with the aid of gunfire, kidnapping and castor oil, he is absolute dictator. - At the time Mussolini came on the political scene in 1919, Italy was a limited democracy. People had the vote, women could vote, and Mussolini came in as a revolutionary, as a rabble-rouser to completely shake things up. One of the most crucial moments of authoritarian capture is when traditional elites invite the authoritar

ian-in-the-making Fascism was a very violent movement. The political establishment, these traditional conservatives, were so frightened of the continuation of the violence that they actually invited him to become Prime Minister. He was invited into the office and they thought that he could be contained and he would do their dirty work and then they could control him and tragically, that was not to be. He attacked the press. He attacked democracy as something that He joked about having term limit

s removed. His arch enemy, Giacomo Matteotti, the leader of the Socialist Party, was seen being taken away by fascist thugs. Eventually, his body was found but it was a huge outrage and a special investigation was launched with the prosecutor and in the course of this, Mussolini's career looked like it was over and he was being asked to resign and to end this, he declared a dictatorship in January 1925. He changed the special prosecutors. The assassins were given light prison sentences and event

ually pardoned because dictators love to pardon criminals and the Italian society was never the same again. (chanting in foreign language) There are times in history when figures appear who are able to coalesce existing hatreds and anxieties that exist in a culture and form from them a movement through rallies, through propaganda, through promises to them. - We will be ending the AIDS epidemic and curing childhood cancer. - [Ruth] Only they know the truth, only they can fix the problems. - We ar

e finally putting America first. - My name is Cheryl Koos and I'm a historian of interwar Europe, and fascism and authoritarianism. Hitler gained his followers by promising them a better life, a better Germany but he also had a scapegoat. - Jews as diseased and foreign objects. One of the most dangerous things about authoritarian leaders is that they're particular personal quirks, their obsessions, their preoccupations often become state policy. - And I think one of the manifestations of that th

at we've seen in policy is the Zero Tolerance Policy. - Immigration is the fault in all of the problems that we're having. You look at what's happening in Europe, you look at what's happening in other places, we can't allow that to happen to the United States, not on my watch. - The separating of children from parents, think about the kind of mind to think, "I know how we're gonna restrict immigration. "Let's take their children away (cackles)" I mean, it's a cruel, almost cartoonishly evil, kin

d of thing to do. - Who's number one with Hispanics? Trump. - It's a violation of human rights to take children away from their parents, to be so uncaring about the permanent effect on these children, and it is gonna be permanent, is cruel and sadistic behavior, it's completely different from saying we need to have strong borders, or we need to limit immigration or something like that. Those things, if they are worth doing, can be done without destroying children's lives. - One institution, in m

y opinion, that hasn't stood up for themselves at all are Congress and the Republican Party. - It's quite extraordinary that the Republic Party, they're slotting right into behavior in Italy in 1920s and Germany in the early 1930s and so on. - [Donald] I wanna know who's the person who gave the whistleblower, who's the person who gave the whistleblower the information? Because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? The spies and treason, we used to

handle it a little differently than we do now. - He does not believe in democracy. The way he rules in the White House shows that. It reminded me of something I read by Ivana Trump when he was married to her and in their divorce proceedings she had written that he liked reading Hitler's speeches, and Hitler's speeches would always build you up to this crescendo of shouting and repeating things three times because if you repeat something three times, it breaks through to the audience and it beco

mes a fact in their mind. - And I want you all to know that we are fighting the fake news, it's fake, phony, fake. (crowd cheering) A few days ago I called the fake news the enemy of the people, and they are, they are the enemy of the people. - The big lie technique that came from Nazis, so now we're faced with the same problem. People say over and over and over again something which has never been true, it's a lie, basically, or it may be a prejudice but when you repeat it, unless it's challeng

ed quickly and effectively, it becomes the norm, it becomes accepted wisdom even though it's completely wrong. - Repeat everything three times and the third time it becomes the truth. He is capitalizing on that. - The Authoritarian Playbook is a way that these kinds of men capture democracy. After they get power, they proceed to tame the judiciary, they attack the press and the ultimate aim is to get people to believe that reality is what they say it is. - The fake news, right? The fake news. (c

rowd cheering) - They are not about the greater good and calling people to their better angels, they're about fostering a sense of victimization and fear, and how the nation could be purer, and how the nation would be better without X, Y and Z elements. - Hail Trump! Hail our people! Hail victory! - [Interviewer] So, is it appropriate to compare Trump to Hitler? - I compare Trump to Hitler all the time and that makes people angry and I'm not gonna stop doing it, and I'll tell you why I'm not gon

na stop doing it because my father was a great historian and student of Jewish history and he used to say to me all the time, "John, the meaning of history is in the Holocaust." We cannot be silent. It's not that he's as bad as Hitler or that he's the equivalent of Hitler, but he has the same diagnosis as Hitler. He's in the same category, that it's a psychological type that can be more or less extreme but they share these common characteristics, they're cut from the same cloth. Those of us who'

ve been raised in this current era, we don't realize how spoiled we've been. We've been raised from the World War II boom of prosperity to today, one of the greatest periods of peace and prosperity in human history and we've also taken it for granted that our democracy was solid, that liberal democracy is now becoming the touchstone for the planet, that's what we believed three years ago but Plato predicted thousands of years ago that democracies always end in autocracy and we're so naive that w

e don't understand that every democracy is always vulnerable to being taken over and turned into an autocracy. - We are in the third era of the rise of charismatic threatening The first was during the Fascist period in the '20s and '30s. After World War II, you had anticolonial strongmen like Mobutu and Qaddafi and today, we have a new crop of leaders who are threatening liberal democracy or have already partly destroyed it. - Trump has helped autocrats all around the world just, I mean, almost

immediately out of the box. Erdogan in Turkey. - [Translator] Turkey has the right to eliminate all possible threats towards sovereignty, with or without it's allies. - [Malcom] el-Sisi in Egypt. - [Translator] Whenever there is a minority trying to impose their extremist ideology, we have to intervene regardless of their numbers. (speaks in foreign language) - [Malcolm] Even in Libya, they're backing the strongman al-Haftar. - His most important aim is take over the capital, of course, because

the one who takes over the capital is the one in power. - [Malcolm] You have presidents like Bolsonaro in Brazil. (speaks in foreign language) - [Translator] These red outcasts will be banished from our homeland, it will be a cleansing never seen in Brazilian history. - [Malcolm] You have strongmen in the Philippines like Duterte. - Hitler massacred three million Jews. Now, there is three million drug addicts, I'd be happy to slaughter them. - [Malcolm] Vladimir Putin. (speaks in foreign languag

e) (crowd cheering) - Russia is actually fueling right wing extremist governments in Europe, they're funding them. AFD in Germany, Alternative for Deutschland. (crowd chanting in foreign language) They're the second largest political party in Germany fueled mainly by hatred of liberalism and immigration. These people are all fellow travelers now and as fellow travelers, they all believe in the same thing and they believe that democracy is a failed experiment and that the polar axis of the world

should shift. We are in a battle for our political and ideological lives, what was America is now under siege around the world. This is a dangerous, dangerous time for the world. Are we moving to a time where the 1930s have been forgotten and people are viewing it a template not a warning? - The only way we can perpetuate a democracy is by people sharing those values and thinking that that is something to be upheld. - I mean, Trump is a symptom of a lot of things, including a rise of a kind of e

thnonationalism and authoritarianism but he is a symptom who's become a very important cause. The United States is standing against ethnonationalist sentiments and authoritarian regimes around the world, I think that puts a certain amount of check on them. With the American president on their side, it's an exponential shot in the arm for them and an exponential weakening of liberal democracy around the world. - I actually go back to, believe it or not, chimpanzees. When Jane Goodall was observin

g chimpanzees, one of the things she showed us was how loving they were, and how human they were, and she bonded with them and formed these relationships with them and then the males would compete for dominance. They'd pound their chest, and they'd throw dirt up in the air, and they'd throw heavy rocks into the river to show who is more powerful but no one ever really got hurt. It was all called display behavior just to show who was the toughest and that person would become the alpha. What happe

ned, though, after many years is that troop that she observed became so big that they split into two troops. So everything she taught us about chimpanzees is really what we would call within group behavior, it says nothing about between group behavior. Once the troops had split apart, a very aggressive charismatic alpha male from one of the groups would start beating his chest, and hooting, and slapping the other males, and getting them excited and then they would start marching toward the other

group's territory and the other males would follow him (percussive music) and they would wait at the edge of the territory for another male, maybe even someone they were friends with when the troop was one troop and they will barrel down the hill and beat that male to death. (chimpanzees shrieking) And they'll do that systematically until they're able to take over the other group's females and their land. Now, think about this from an evolutionary point of view. Who's genes got to move on? The

troop with the malignant, narcissistic leaders that said, "Let's go kill all the other chimpanzees." (chimpanzees shrieking) So this is very deep in our genetic programming and this is why demagogues like Trump are able to be successful because before Trump we had fractures in our society but we had this overarching identity as Americans. Donald Trump fractures it and says, "No, we're actually two troops "and our troop is being attacked by that troop "and if we don't go over there "and beat the

crap out of them, "they're gonna destroy us." And that is like a siren song to the deep genetic programming in the base of our animal brains that, yes, if somebody convinces us that other troop is trying to kill us, and I don't care how bad my leader is, but he's the one who's leading us to the edge of the troop so only one of us is gonna survive who cares if he's a liar? We wanna survive and the only way we survive is by attacking those other people. That primitive programming is actually not a

typical, they're not anomalous, they're not unusual. Humankind has been at war in every place at every time, right? And they've been horrible in war to burning down villages, raping women, torturing people, killing people, that's actually normal for the human animal, unfortunately. It's the psychology of power. (crowd cheering) We all tend to fall behind the powerful leader out of self-preservation and out of group perseveration, it's the natural instinct. - [Interviewer] What are you most fearf

ul of about this president being in control? - Nuclear war. I mean, that's the long-term, that's the biggest risk, is that he gets in a confrontation with North Korea, with China where his ego's on the line. - Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on an international level went to advise Donald Trump and three times he asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked, at one point, "If we have them, why can't we use them?" - North Korea best not make any more threats to the Uni

ted States, they will be met with fire and fury the likes of which this world has never seen before. - A president of the United States, even if he's being a showman, saying that we will bring fire and fury to your country, that is an implicit nuclear threat. Donald Trump does not have the temperament to be around these systems. - Welcome to the White House. This ceremony and the treaty we are signing today are both excellent examples of the rewards of patience. - [Narrator] It was 1987 and Pres

ident Reagan and Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev celebrated the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty as calming Cold War tensions. The INF scrapped thousands of ground launched nuclear and conventional missiles with ranges of from 300 to 3,400 miles. - [Reporter] Moscow and Washington have repeatedly accused each other of violating the treaty, a deal that helps protect the security of the U.S. and its allies in Europe and the Far East. Russia has condemned President Trump's intention to with

draw from the pact, the Deputy Foreign Minister is saying it would be a very dangerous step. - [Man] Sierra, Victor, Two. - [Malcom] The President of the United States is a nuclear monarchy. He is a king. There are no safeguards other than his whim, that determines when he launches an atomic bomb and where. The briefcase that he has, the football, is a communications device and all it does is authenticates him to the nuclear arsenal's chain of command. - [Commander] Unlock code enter, Juliet, Pa

pa, Papa. - [Malcolm] And it executes his order once he has authenticated himself. - [Commander] Mark. T-minus 50. - Not one bomb's going, multiple bombs are going So when you choose that option, that missile will blow that country up in 35 minutes and there is no turning it off. Once they boost into space, they're gone. - The president has the authority to order including a first strike and it is extremely unlikely that the military command would not take his orders. - The president can decide

that France is a national security threat and he can order an ICBM strike. - [Man] That's not the correct procedure. - Screw the procedure. I want somebody on the goddamn phone before I kill 20 million people. - Sir, we have a launch order. - [Timer] Four, three, two - Put your hand on the keys, sir. - [Timer] One, launch. - So what do you say to people who say that Trump is a bluffer, a strategic thinker, he won't do this? Are you willing to bet your children's life on it? Are you willing to be

t the lives of every person in this nation on it? And if you're willing to say that about any person who will pathologically lie to you, to your face, documentable, quantifiably lie to you, your wife, your children on a daily basis, then you don't really understand what the stakes are. (missile blasting) We cannot allow that kind of gamesmanship to continue, this man controls those weapons. - I don't think you can understand Trump or much else of what's going on in the world today without factor

ing in the effects of death anxiety. Are we doing what we're doing for the reasons that we claim or could there be something that lurks beneath the surface of consciousness? In "The Denial of Death", Becker argues that it is our awareness that we will inevitably die and our inability to accept the reality of the human condition with grace and courage that underlies almost all human activity. What Freud pointed out is that we're animals and we don't like that, we're breathing pieces of defecating

meat that aren't any more significant or enduring than lizards or potatoes. So, if you think about it, I'm gonna die, I could walk outside and get smoked by a comet. You wouldn't be able to stand up in the morning. You would literally be overwhelmed by paralyzing existential terror. What we do to bury that anxiety is to embrace belief systems that life has meaning and we have value. In a single word, culture. So the prevailing belief in the U.S. in the last century is that America is the home o

f the free and the brave, anybody who works hard enough can be just as successful as Oprah, or Bill Gates, or Warren Buffet and that we will always be the world's foremost economic, as well as military power and so one of the first knees in our psychological groin was 9/11 when both our military and economic power had been challenged, then we get clobbered with the recession, combined with globalization, combined with demographic reality that by the middle of the century white people will be in

the minority and so for many Americans, their world view have been completely upended. So fast forward to 2015, Donald Trump declares that he's running for President. He comes down the escalator. He's like, "Mexicans are rapists, I'm And I said to myself, "That guy is gonna win." - The American dream is dead. - [Audience Member] Bring it back. - But if I get elected president, I will bring it back bigger and better and stronger than ever before and we will make America great again. Thank you, th

ank you very much. (crowd cheering) - When the psychological shit hits the fan, if you'll pardon the expression, and when people are economically and psychologically insecure, when somebody comes along and confidently proclaims in very simple terms that they will keep them safe, they will make them prosper, they will bring back the good old days, that's the psychological hook. If you look at it from a detached perspective, we're really at a crossroads, the impending environmental apocalypse juxt

aposed with simmering ethnic tensions, juxtaposed with rampant economic inequality and here we have Trump magnifying all of What Trump also did masterfully was to take nonexistent problems and render them potentially traumatic by grotesquely overemphasizing the danger. - Look at the deal he's making with Iran. - Once you get on board psychologically, once you commit to a demagogueish ideologue, that puts up a fact proof screen between you and the world. Once you are fully on board, there's no ra

tional argument that will alter your opinion. There is always a tendency for charismatic leaders to bring out the tribal nature of humans, it is very easy to lapse into an us versus them mentality. Rationality will lose every time. - Where is the red line? Where do you say, "Okay, hey, No mas, I'm not supporting this guy anymore?" Where is the line? So, it's obviously been crossed by many people but for me the line would be when you look at our documents and you look at our constitution, North K

orea, Russia, Venezuela has the exact same language, go look at their constitution, they have the same flowery language related to human rights and all of that stuff but what make us unique is the checks and balances and the power diffusion in the construction of the government. So if Trump starts to trample on that, then I'm gonna turn on him, have to. You can't disrupt a 243-year experiment for one dude's personality. - It has now been a week since the Centers for Disease Control confirmed the

first community transmission of coronavirus in the United States. - We all have personalities. Some people are more dependent, some people are more aggressive. It becomes pathological when you see the whole world through a screen that makes everything fit your need. - Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. - [Lance] It's not just being manipulative, it's a fundamental inability to not be that way. - This big, vast land of ours, this great country of ours, we have 240 cases. Most of

those people are gonna be fine. - Donald Trump doesn't care about experts. - [Journalist] Can you also weigh in on this issue of hydroxychloroquine? What do you think about this and what is the medical evidence? - How many times I've answered that question? Maybe 15. - [Journalist] Doctor. - 15 times. - He only cares about people who will tell him what he already wants to hear. He makes himself ignorant about almost everything because he only wants to hear what he wants to hear. - We have it so

well under control. I mean, view this the same as the flu. When somebody sneezes, I mean, I try and bail out as much as possible and I haven't touched my face in weeks, in weeks. - [Journalist] Mr. President, the... - I miss it. - And one of the most devastating things is to emotionally train Americans not to extinguish compassion and to extinguish kindness in themselves. He terms it being tough. - He is giving people a license to hate, to provide a source of anger, to go after each other, how

are we all tolerating this? Loyalty is not blind obedience unless you're supporting a demagogue, okay? And so you don't wanna ever be like that in your life. - Relax, we're doing great. - [Reporter] The DOW is now down nearly 900 points. - [New Anchor] Economists have been ramping up their projections. - [Reporter] The virus spreading explosively like quote, a bomb. - To be president, you have to exercise good judgment on behalf of the American people for their interests. - They have to go back

to work, our country has to go back, our country is based on that. I think it's gonna happen pretty quickly. - It's got nothing to do with the safety of the people, it's about him. It's not about the country. - He spent a lot of time on Twitter today boasting about the excellent television ratings his news conferences have received lately. - We have Monday Night Football-type ratings and that these are like "Bachelor" finale. - He is not fit because he is unable to think, he can only react and a

ttack. - What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared? - I say that you're a terrible reporter. That's really bad reporting. - He is unfit to be president because he cannot think. - [Reporter] The U.S. is surpassing Italy as the country with the most fatalities. - [News Anchor] He says he wants to reopen the country with a big bang. - Pursuing truth is to the mind like food is to the body. Without pursuing truth, your psyche starves and Trump's psyche has been starv

ing for a long time. - [Journalist] Say, sir, what metrics you will use to make that decision? - The metrics right here. If we can hold that down between 100,000 and 200,000, we all together have done a very good job. I am very proud to be your president. Thank you very much. Thank you, everybody, thank you. - He's detached from reality. I mean, this is just demented. (gentle guitar music) - The founding fathers always knew that a king-like tyrant would try to rule as a personal dictator and use

the powers of the presidency to enhance or enrich himself, but they never foresaw the senate the judiciary might completely abdicate their responsibilities and go along with that. - The natural tendency of history in many ways is towards greater liberalism and altruism but human nature has these competing forces, and so what we're seeing now is this amazing regression from where we were we are literally going backwards, I think, We all have to do everything that we can do because our society is

at risk and we could lose it all, we could lose this grand experiment in democracy. I think we're more than halfway there, I think people don't realize how far this has actually progressed. - When you're in a period of rising authoritarianism, it's easy to get exhausted because the news comes at you like bullets from a machine gun, all of it bad. One of the best weapons against authoritarianism is protest in the street, and protests are key because not only does the leader see that he's unpopul

ar, but even more important, his allies see that the public is actually against them. - Think of what you tell your kids. You tell them to be honest. You tell them to tell the truth. You tell them, don't think of yourself, don't brag. Don't trash other people to make yourself feel good. How can you support Donald Trump? How can you support somebody who essentially violates all of the things that we want them to follow? It makes no sense. It's corrosive for them, it's corrosive for you, and it's

corrosive for the country. - This is a phenomenal, phenomenal country. It's one of the most unique historical experiments in the 5,500 years of recorded history. We have to figure out a way to help people and bring them into the new world of globalization, they have to feel like they're part of the aspirational success of America that our parents felt. - I believe at our best that we have the capacity to radically reconceptualize who we are and the extent to which that we can accept our commonal

ity as human beings, I think therein lies the key because then there's no one left to hate and that's not gonna stop us from hating but as Ernest Becker put it, maybe we can hate stuff that we should like poverty and injustice, and maybe we can then use righteous indignation to everybody's best interest. (gentle music)