Were You Designed to Succeed or Fail? Human Design for Midlife Transformation

The journey up to this point, isn't wrong. It's brought you to this point. What is perfect right now may not be perfect a week from now. And that's okay. You've got to continue to check in with yourself. That's part of your own process. It's part of you getting clouded by other people's energies. Take a breath. Lean in. This point is an intersection for you to go in and reinvent yourself. And that's what you're so great at. Being able to take them on that path of reinvention. And by doing that,

You can create a really beautiful path of how you're meant to fulfill your soul's calling, truly live out your purpose. There's this inner knowingness that's like you're the queen that you always knew you were and people are going to be naturally drawn to you. This moment right now is where doubt meets destiny. Have you ever stood at the crossroads of your own life wondering if every challenge was a sign that you were meant for more or even less? I'm Jill Collins, and today we're going to answe

r the question that echoes in the minds of so many women. Are you designed to succeed or fail? Together with human design specialist Katie Carlson, We're gonna deep dive into your own life's blueprint with practical insights that can transform your midlife journey. So are you ready to face the truth? Join us as we discover whether we were designed to fail or succeed. Well, hey, Katie, I'm so glad to have you here today. How are you doing? I'm fantastical. How are you? I'm doing great. I'm withou

t power right now, but I am making it. It's amazing what we can do with technology. It's destiny. That is destiny for sure. Well, let's dive right in. You know, um, I wanted to ask you first, you know, something I've noticed is that many women in midlife, you know, start to feel. Invisible, you know, it's like their best years are supposedly like behind them and I felt a little bit like that at times, but, you know, I'm curious, you know, as a human design expert and we're going to go into that

is how can, um, human design help someone flip the script and show them that midlife is really not the end of the road, but possibly the most exciting new chapter of their lives and how can they rediscover and reinvent themselves? What? How does human design work for that? Is that something that's possible? Yeah. So I love this and this is such a power. Like I literally have chills as you were just like asking me that question because it is such a powerful way to understand really what's going o

n energetically within you. Cause I know, you know, when women are reaching that point in their life where, yeah, they may be not felt seen, they're not necessarily feeling heard. They may have lost a little bit of their own confidence. Right through whatever right life's life's going to happen to you and one thing I will say it like the brass tacks when you look at human design was what it gives people is it gives people validation. It gives people this validation of like what they know deep do

wn in their truth. Their, their soul, right? What they know in their soul, but yet they may not have been able to articulate into words just quite yet. You know, I think a lot of women probably feel that kind of like inner desire. That's like, something is burning to like come out, right? There's like a new, there's a change that's like brewing within them. And what I found with human design is that it really gives the women this permission to be. themselves and own their inner confidence that t

hey deep down know that is there, but they may not be able to like fully bring forth in the external world. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does and I know I, um, I want you to explain to us exactly what human design is because not everyone who's watching may know. I know I, I did 1 with you a few years ago. I did the human designs test and then you worked with me on on this and you put together incredible report that we went through over a couple of hours and it just opened up so much for me whe

re I was able to see just, it was kind of like, you said, it's a confirmation of something. I kind of always intuitively knew. But that at times I was thinking, Oh, I can't say that. I can't think that that's, that's me. I don't know. I don't want to be too, you know, whatever. But I, I realized things about myself that I didn't know. So tell us what human design is and how it works. Yes. Okay. So what is human design? It's like the brass tacks. So human design is this system that is, that bring

s in ancient wisdom, the I Ching, chakra system and Western astrology. And it basically brings forth and it gives you this output. So most, anybody can go out and get a free chart. They can go pull their chart, however they want. There's so many different sites, you know, that you can go to, to get your chart. But I always tell people, go talk to someone that knows what they're talking about. Because if you try to interpret this yourself, you're going to be like, What are all these shapes? What

are all these colors? Like, what does all this mean? Like, I don't know, what is all this? Right? Because I did that on my own. I remember someone, somebody sent me a link and I went. Okay, that's cool. It's like a skeleton kind of and you're just all these numbers and lines going around and you're like, what does all this mean? And then I, someone said, oh, get the book. And it's like, I heard it's this big and I'm like, I don't do books like that. I'm not a learner that way. So, I, then I came

in across you and we've known each other for so long and I said, I didn't know you did that. So you helped me with it. Yeah, it's so fun. So it definitely go talk to someone that knows what they're doing. Um, but what it really does is it gives you, I like to look at it as like, it's, it's a blueprint of your energy, how, and it's based in on the time and place in which you were born. Now I, when I work with my clients and groups, I always like to say I'm half woo, half do right. So like I brin

g in the spiritual components, but I also want to give you the practical knowledge that's going to, how you can apply these certain concepts so that it works. More specifically to you now. So when we look at human design, it brings in these different systems, right? And it's solely based on the time and place in which you were born. So if you know your birth time, and if you don't know your exact birth time, there's ways of which you can, you know, talk to someone and we can figure it out throug

h kind of the ballpark era. Um, we can work with you on that. But I say this because one of the gifts that this gives you is that you start to understand how your energy is made up. What activates your energy? What depletes your energy? Where you're meant to fulfill your life's purpose in this world? How, this is why I think I, when I've talked to you, I was like, Jill, you're the reinvention queen, right? How many times have you reinvented yourself? Like literally this is in her design, people.

Like literally this was in her design. And I was like, you're the reinvention queen. You have this ability to take Someone right and and whatever like whatever capacity that they are in or wherever they are and reinvent themselves in a place and it's like they it brings them on to this. I want them to say pedestal, but it takes them on like in a completely new trajectory of their life, but they didn't even know was possible or feel like that was possible. And you have this literally a tailored

approach to do this in a way that will support other people doing just that reinventing themselves. I mean, that's what you're meant to do here. And you do it through many different ways. And I'm not going to go into like the, you know, the deep down dirt nitty gritty, um, of your chart, but the biggest gift that it gives people is it, it gives people an understanding of what they've known deep down in their heart and in their soul, but it, it, it literally brings words. It brings, um, practical

ity to how to show up best energetically for your family, for your business and your relationship. In all different aspects of your life, and it's just, it's such a powerful tool. I mean, there's, there's so many different ways that, you know, we can go with it. Well, you just covered exactly what I was going to ask next is about how to, how do we rediscover ourselves through human design and midlife? And I think we were talking before we in the green room, the virtual green room before we start

ed about relationships, you know, and how, um, you know, our relationships dynamics were always evolving, right? Things are changing. We could. You know, especially in midlife. You know, we may be divorced. We may have like for me lost a spouse. Um, how, how can we help? How does human design help us actually strengthen our connections? Um, and particularly with a spouse or significant other, we can start there and then maybe next we'll talk about parenting and as well as kids grow up and how do

we change as they, as they, the dynamics change there. So this is really fun. So, and I literally, again, I have children. Chills again as I talk about this because I love talking about human design. So when we think about relationships and if we look at human design as a way to understand your own energy, and I, I try to say this in the best possible way, and this is, and I'm saying this in a non codependent way, but you know, in Jerry Maguire at the door when she's like, you complete me, you

know, that whole, or no, no, she's. You say it like you complete me when we look at human design and you start to pull your chart and you see that you've got shapes that are colored in and you've got lines that are maybe, you know, all the way colored in and maybe half colored in or we call those hanging gates, but you'll see that there's different energy moving throughout your chart. Well, when we interact with people in any day life, like when we come into contact with other people, a lot of t

imes what's happening is we're like, you may have encountered someone at some point in your life where it's like. Whoa. Like I just feel connected to you in a very weird way. And I don't know why. And it doesn't have to be like, you know, sexual or anything like that, but you've just found this like really powerful connection. And you're like, I don't even know where this comes from. I don't even know what this, what this is. And a lot of times we feel it, we don't know how to articulate it. So

a lot of times what you can do, and I've done this with many of my clients, but you can take your, human design chart, and you can actually overlap it with a business partner, with a relationship, you know, with whatever. And you can overlap these charts to start to see how, how did these energies work together? So a lot of times when I'm like first working with a couple, they'll usually come to me when they're not necessarily in the best state or the things are not, um, as, as blowing as beauti

fully, um, as they would like. And a lot of times I'll do is I'll look at their charts first and foremost to see where they overlap. Because a lot of times what happens is, is that they just have, uh, like some energy that the other partner perhaps. their energy maybe is more dominant or maybe the other partner has more dominant energy in a certain way. And when you can start to see the bigger picture of how this actually supports both of you, you can start to have a better understanding. It's a

greater perspective of like, Oh, you know, like, so I'll give you an example. Um, I was just doing a call where a couple, um, they, they had a overlapping chart, which was seven and two. And this means that seven of their Shapes within the human design chart were overlapping, which means that they have like direct energy access to that, to that energy. And then they had two open centers, seven and two. And so in human design, we like to say seven and two work to do. And that's a good thing beca

use we always want to keep growing and always want to allow ourselves to grow and evolve. And one of the challenges that can come with that is that if our energy gets. bottled up or gets scrunched up. And this can happen just by going out into the world. This can be like, just by bumping into other people, people's energies. How, how many times have you been in like, in a relationship with someone and you know, you may have just gotten triggered really quickly about something. And normally that

would never bother you, but you, you found yourself really triggered. And it's like, I don't even know why, well, you may be taking on someone else's energy that you don't even know about. So there's, there's different ways of understanding how this energy moves and how you can support each other and truly optimizing your own energy. And so when we look at these charts, when they come together, one may have a particular channel that is completely defined. So that means that one of the centers is

connected, um, to the other center by a full line. And, you know, most people have at least one of these in their chart. Um, unless they're a reflector, but I won't even go into that. Um, It's a reflector, right? Very, very rare, like less than 1%. Um, Sandra Bullock is a reflector, actually. Oh, fun fact. Um, but you have a definition. And so, like, say, for instance, the, the 4323, the genius to free channel, this is someone that is able to synthesize information very, very easily that they'v

e brought into their vortex. And they can spit it out through their mouth. Like, so they're, they're great talkers. They're great communicators and they're able to get this out. Now, if someone that they're in relationship to, let's say in a, in an intimate relationship, has maybe just the 23 or maybe just has the 43 gate activated, they may feel overpowered by their partner in certain instances. And at the same time, they also could feel very activated by their partner because they can leverage

some of their energy by that full connection. Does this make sense? Yeah. Yeah, it does. Details of it. So, but understanding that, then you can start to say, okay. Like, hey, I'm going to honor and respect your 4323 Genius to Freak channel that you've got a lot to say based on your synthesis and based on what you're bringing in. That doesn't mean that I don't have lots to say. It's just like understanding that their energy is channeled differently than yours. So it is such a powerful tool when

even if you're looking at the different types within human design. Or within like even going down as granular as, you know, what gates are activated and how you guys come together in that regard. It's such, it's such a powerful tool. Once you start to know and recognize how is my energy best utilize? How does my energy best show up in this relationship? And how are we able to come together in such a way to honor and respect each other's energy? And bring our own energy, our collective energy up

a notch. Wow. You know, and I'm, I'm, I know everyone now is listening is saying, okay, how do I find out about this? And I'm going to put all the links below. You'll have them all below here in the, in the description to reach Katie and to find out and to work with her to get the report, to do the test. And it's all below. So definitely check it out. She's amazing. But, um, yeah, you know, it's so interesting. I, I was thinking to myself, I, um, actually someone I dated a while back, um, was a

, um, a four, I'm a four, six, and they were also a four, six, but I'm a generator and they were a, um, not a manifesting generator or a generator. What's the other one? A manifester? No, not a manifester. What's the, there's another one. A projector. Projector. He was a projector. And I thought, oh, four, six, is that good? And I'm like, well, maybe not, you know, so yeah. So just knowing that. That actually, so when we look at profile. So when we say four, six, that's your profile. So there's,

there's five energetic types. There's generator, then there's the manifestor. And then the third type is a blend between the generator and the manifestor. It's a manifesting generator. The fourth type is a projector and the fifth type super small percentage is a reflector. Now, just I'll give you kind of like a brief little synopsis of each of them really quickly. The generator. really big energy. Me and Jill were both generators. People are naturally drawn into our energies, naturally drawn in

to our vortex. So it's gonna be really important for generators to respond to the energy that comes to them. Like we're not here to initiate. We're really truly here to respond to the energy that comes through. Then that doesn't mean that like you can't be, you know, forthcoming or, um, you know, put yourself in a position, but it's like, Truly responding to the energy, like if you get an insight or a download or a hit based on being in a certain atmosphere or an environment, it's like, ooh, pay

attention that you're in response to that. So, like, really leaning into that response is super powerful and generators energy when their energy is in alignment, they're going to extend that. It's all about feeling satisfied. And this could be as small as like going and getting a cup of coffee. I don't drink coffee, but like, there's something about having a coffee, a latte made for me with cinnamon on top at a coffee shop. That just puts me into satisfaction very quickly. And that brings me ba

ck into alignment. And when generators energies out of alignment, They they'll ultimate, like Their first response is to lean into frustration and doesn't mean they don't get angry or bitter or disappointed or anything like that, but it's just like their initial response is going to be frustration. Manifestors, on the flip side of this, they have very different energy. It's kind of like Moses in the Red Sea. Like they have this ability to kind of like part the energy. It's, it's a very powerful.

Like initiate initiator energy. Um, they're meant to initiate things. They're meant to like bring ideas into the fold. They're meant to pave their own way, carve their own path, like move forward in that sort of way. And manifesters and generators, I mean, we're all meant to work together in this, in this world. Um, manifesters, when they're energies in, in full alignment, they're gonna experience this inner peace. It's powerful. It's really, really powerful when their energies out of alignment

, they're going to experience anger. Like their first initial response is going to be to go to anger. And so I always tell my manifestos, like whenever you feel angry, like how can you lean into peace? Like whatever that means for you, like lean into peace and then. allow that to unfold as as is the next type is the bridge between the two so it's the manifesting generator manifesting generators have this ability to collapse time very very quickly they can move through things very quickly tony ro

bbins is a manifesting generator manifesting generators oftentimes They, it's like they know a lot of little things. It's like a mile wide and an inch deep. Like, they don't really go super deep on a lot of things, but they'll, or they'll bring in experts to certain things, kind of like what Tony does, but they can move through things very, very quickly. At the same token, as they move through things very quickly, they can also You know, make some mistakes and have opportunities to go through in

that, in that process. And that part, the other beauty of a manifesting generator is it has this inner, um, when it's energies alignment, they're going to feel satisfied and peace. Like it's kind of a mixture of satisfied, satisfaction and peace. And then when their energy is out of alignment, it's like that frustration, um, as well as anger. The fourth type is a projector. Now projectors have very, like their energy is very much in front of the body. So when you're around a projector, It can f

eel, especially for generators, it can feel very like, almost like it's a lot, like it kind of feels like it's, there's a lot happening here. Like what it, like, it just, it's, it's a lot. It can feel like it's, it's a lot, but understanding and appreciating the projector for being who they are. They can provide such wisdom and guidance because the projectors have this ability to see above the fray. They have this really powerful vision of seeing the bigger picture. And when projectors energy, u

m, like they're not here to initiate. They're not here. They're truly here to be invited from an invitation. So like when projectors project before being invited to. Like a conversation or like an opinion on anything. It will not necessarily it will not land and they'll get really bitter because they're not being heard or they're not being seen projectors need to be recognized in a certain way. And when they speak before they've been invited, they're, they're going to get really, really bitter.

Um, the another key. piece about all of this. The only type that is meant to work, I know I say this with a caveat, long hours is the generator, but the generator has to be lit up by what they're doing. If they're not lit up by what they're doing, they're actually depleting their battery pack. If you're doing things that you love, you're actually charging your battery pack. So, and generators have to be really smart about this. So all the other types. Manifestors manifesting generators projector

s and reflectors. They're not meant to work long hours. They're meant to work in cycles. They're meant to work like a couple hours on a couple hours off a couple hours on a couple hours off. Now, that doesn't mean the generators can't work like that. It's just a different thing. And the last type. The fifth type, the reflector, less than 1 percent of the population. But reflectors truly reflect the energy of their surroundings. So they act as mirrors for us. And when reflectors energy is in alig

nment, they're going to experience this, this element of surprise. It's like, wow, like this, almost like this awestruck, like they're just going to live in this state of awe. When their energy is out of alignment, they're going to feel experience like disappointment. And they're just going to feel there's kind of like this. I'm disappointed in certain things. Not that it's wrong, but it's like there's this feeling of disappointment. So when we look at those different types and how those differe

nt energy types play along with each other, we all, we all need each other. But it's how do you start to channel your energy in a way that's going to best give you your optimal energy to show up as you in the best light that you possibly can, and doing or being in the best, you know, putting yourself in the situations that are going to be most beneficial for your own energy. Does that make sense? Yeah, it makes total sense. And I'm just thinking everyone, um, have a pen and paper. And if you, yo

u probably want to mark this spot or a little bit before this and go take the test and then come back and you can get a little bit of insight before you reach out to Katie. If you want to get some tips, because right now this may be like, what is all this? Go take the test and come back and rewind and get to that part where she just explained the different types, because it's so fascinating. Um, you know, I just love this stuff this so much. It's just, it's just opened up so much for me. Um, you

know, because I think we even talk about like You know, when we're trying to figure out what to do with our lives and our careers, you know, so many people, you know, we, we met during the pandemic, I think, during COVID and we were, um, you know, doing a lot of Tony Robbins things together and online and, and, um, it was kind of like, well, what do we do? And some people were just trying to reach, um, we were just kind of like, you know, we were just trying to reach out to Stepping back and go

ing is, am I doing what I want to do? Or maybe, maybe some people lost their jobs or their, their companies went under or whatever. And so we had this opportunity to really reinvent ourselves and say, you know, in some ways, even if everything's going well, I, because I am the reinvention queen, I love to ask myself, you know, do I still like what I'm doing? Why am I doing it this way? You know, what do I need to be doing this differently? And so what is it that human design can offer someone ca

reer wise, or as we're sitting here in midlife, maybe having these moments of like, like I, like I was saying, like a fork in the road. What is it that human design can show us about what kind of career or purpose or mission we should be on? This is, and this is one of the things that I love working with my clients on is really understanding what is their soul's purpose. Now, again, Guys, there's many different tools out there. Human design is a tool. I want to like continue to preface this with

a caveat. It is one tool. It is not, you know, the end all be all, but it is the end. I'll be all for me when I start to look at what the transformations that can happen with my clients and my teams that I work with now within human design, everyone's going to have an incarnation cross and our incarnation cross is directly tied to the, to the purpose, our soul's purpose of, of why we incarnated into this earth. What does that mean for you now? There's like. There's a lot. There's like hundreds

of incarnation crosses, depending on where you're born and lots of different variables there. So two people can have the same incarnation cross, but very different life purposes. And it's really about how you understand how your energy is different within your chart. Because not all charts are going to be the same unless you're, unless you're a twin, legitimately. And I have worked with twins before, which is funny, um, because they do have similar charts, but then there's Like environment that

plays a pool, uh, a part in that, but then there's certain areas actually in your chart that speak to your business. Um, as if you wanted to create a business, or if you want it to be an entrepreneur, if you're best going to thrive as an entrepreneur, if you're best going to thrive in a partnership, you know, or maybe working with a team or a small group of people, you know, there's different ways in which we can start to see based on your design, how your profile. So your profile, you mentioned

this, your four, six. The profile is the energies in which we interact with the world, how we best show up in the world. And there's six different lines and what we call a profile, but there are two combined. So there could be a one, three, a four, six, two, four, um, six, two, three, six, six, three, like four, one. Like there's, there's many different, um, combinations of them, but they all bring a different type of energy. And depending on that, plus your type, you can start to see some patt

erns. Right. You can start to recognize patterns and then you see, you take that with your incarnation cross, what your soul's calling, what is your meant to do here? You can create a really beautiful path of how you're meant to fulfill your soul's calling, right? Really, truly live out your purpose. And I will tell you this, when I work on my clients and I'm talking to them and they're like, you're saying things. That like, I feel like I've known deep down, but I didn't know how to articulate i

t. And by saying this, right, it brings light to it. And if we bring light to something, we're bringing awareness to it. And then having that awareness, it's like, okay, what do you do with that now? Right. You take intentional action that is from an aligned place. Are you satisfied? Are you peaceful? Right. Are you feeling success? I forgot to mention that projectors. They're when their energy is in alignment, they experience success. It's all about success for them. Yeah, yeah, you know, and a

nd so. Taking intentional action from an aligned place can make such a different, a complete difference in how, you know, you move through your business or move through your life or whatever you're going through. You know, if you're experiencing it, you want a change of career, a change, like change up. I, like through looking at your chart, we can look at this and say, Oh, okay. Your energy is going to be much more aligned here. Go test that out. And then how does your strategy. Right. To respo

nd, to initiate, to be invited, um, you know, to reflect the energy, like how can that energy support you in making those decisions? Right. And then how can you make the correct decision that's in alignment with you? So we all have what's called an authority. Um, and there's nine different authorities and I won't go through all of them, but like, I'm a sacral authority. I think you are too. I mean, look, I have my report up. Let me check. Um, I am sacral. Yeah. So sacral is the sacral authority

is very much like knowing it. It's like this intuitive hit in your gut. And it's like feeling it in your gut. I'll give you an example of this. My first house that I bought by myself, I literally. It went on the market that morning. I was the first person to see it. I walked in the door. As soon as I walked in the door, I was like, yep. I didn't even seen the house yet guys. I walk in the door. I was like, yep, this is it. Like, this is it guys. I put a, I put an offer on the house 45 minutes la

ter, but it was, it was done. Like nobody else. There were 10 other showings that day. I bought it. I bought it for list price, literally. Um, And I mean, but I knew I had this like, sacral hit. I just knew, like, you just have this instantaneous, like, knowingness. Now. Oh, yeah. I have to say, because that same thing happened to me with a condo I bought, like, within, I looked at 3, 30 minutes at a little chart, made the process do the, you know, from the woo to do, you know, and doing is like

. Okay, do the part. Okay, this looks good. And then I went made the offer in 45 minutes. I bought a condo, you know, and I think what happens with us is that, Oh, go ahead and finish your thought. Cause I want to say, I think sometimes we talk ourselves out of this and we need to trust our intuition. So we'll go to that in a minute, put a pin in that, but please continue what you were saying. That's, that's part of it is. So like recognizing that, like, We, when we get these intuitive, these in

tuitive hits as a sacred authority, listen to them. Now, that doesn't mean that, and this is where I, sometimes people, I will lose people as they'll be like, well, but I felt that in the now, but I don't feel that again. That's okay. Hear what I said. That is okay. What is now right? Like, what is perfect right now may not be perfect a week from now. And that's okay. You've got to continue to check in with yourself, right? Recognize that's okay. Most people think of it. It's like. Oh no, like,

you know, second guessing myself, I'm doing this, doing that, and you go back on yourself. And that's, hey, that's part of your own process. It's part of you getting clouded by other people's energies. Take a breath, lean in and literally think about it. And this is the other big thing. I always tell this. To so my, my fiance is an emotional authority. So 50 percent of the population is as emotional authority. Emotional authority. They're not meant to make decisions in the now they're meant to k

ind of ride the wave. Now, you can imagine if you're in partnership with someone that makes decisions in the now, right? Like, yeah, and then you're in a partnership. With someone that needs to ride the wave, right? It can be a little bit, if you're a generator, a little frustrating at times. Because it's like, oh my gosh, get to it! Like, get there! Get there faster! For all my people that love friends out there, like, get there faster! Right? It's a thing. And I, so what I've had to do in the

process of that, and what he does for me, is I, I recognize, hey, I ask him, are you in the wave? And he'll be like, yeah. And I'll be like, okay. And he's like, are you not? And I'm like, well, give me, so this is the key about sacral authorities. Sacral authorities need someone to ask them a question. So it can, but it needs to be like a, even if you're trying to get to a specific answer, like, um, okay. So like, what do you want for dinner tonight? Do you want Chinese or, you know, Thai, righ

t? Not, don't even ask it like that. Be like, do you want Chinese? And you'll feel in your gut like, uh, like you'll feel like an uh huh or uh uh, almost urge. Oh, do you want to talk? And you can say like, uh, uh, or uh huh. Right. And it could be either no, no. And you try again for something else. So I'll ask, I'll have my partner, I'll have him, they'll be like, Hey, ask me a yes, no question about whatever you're trying to get me to answer. Like come up with a yes, no, because if you do, th

en I can feel into my gut a little bit better. Where sacral authorities get tripped up is when you give us too many options. If you give us too many options, it's really hard for us to narrow it down. So, you really, we're talking, we're talking in my language. That happens to me all the time. Especially in today's world when there's so many things coming at us. It's just over. I never felt overwhelmed like this before. And now it's like always feeling overwhelmed. And I think a lot of people in

midlife are feeling that too. We get the brain fog in the morning. I'm like, what's happening? Is it this? Is it, is it midlife? Is it hormones? And it's like, no, it's just a lot of stuff. Sometimes if you're sacral, yeah, it's overwhelming. I need like, give me a specific. Thing. Yeah, I do. Well, I always say I was great as a secretary and executive assistant back when I was 19 because I was great at emptying an inbox. It was so clear what I had to do. There was no question. It was like, yep

, did that check that off the list. But when someone says, Oh, I'm going to create something, let's create a website. Let's create a business. Let's do something that's creative. And I'm like, Huh? There is a large, yeah, there's a large portion of that that kind of happens with generators. Generators feel really satisfied when we can check the box, check the box and things like we feel. I mean, it is a, it brings a level of satisfaction and I know it does, but it also does for me that it's like

. Like it's just, it's amazing. It's absolutely incredible at the same token, right? When you're in a relationship with someone that maybe is in a, I mean, explaining authority is very similar to sacral authority. Um, but emotional authority, they got to ride the wave. So, you know, having patients like recognizing that they're not wrong, you know, because they can't make a decision like we can like that. And that's okay. Right? But you got to acknowledge that. Be like, oh, because you can find

yourself, like, oh, come on, like, make a decision! Like, and then you say to them, and you're like, come on, like, get there faster. Oh, you know what? I'm going to appreciate your ability to work through this. Right? Your ability to work through this emotion and then land when it's done. Best for you. Now, little caveat. If you're an emotional authority and you're a generator or a manifesting generator, you still have that sacral kind of intuition. You may get tossed up in a little bit of the

emotion. So it's It's about feeling into your emotion, but then also, like, leaning into the, that, like, gut response, like, that's sacral response. So, well, I, I love this and I know people are going to want to come back and watch this after they do their test and they work with you because it's a lot of this is probably unless, you know, about human design, you're probably going, I don't know what all this means. But again, you have an opportunity to watch it again. Um, but, you know, I want

to dive in a little bit more to about in general about human design is, you know, a lot of times we're facing things like change and we're making decisions. And we did say that thing about putting a pin in it is, um, I've learned over the past several years now that about my intuition, you've taught me that and others is how powerful that is. And when I get that, I never forget when you first told me that, and you'll actually sometimes find yourself, you'll find yourself saying it out loud. And

I'll localize it when I'm like, even if nobody's here, it's like, do I want water? And I'm like talking to myself, you know, or I'll just, things will just blurt out of my mouth. And it's, so I know it before I even know it here. And I think what I've observed about myself, in fact, our dear friend Preston Brown once said to me, Jill, I can literally see your intuition kick in when you decide something. And then your brain starts to talk your, talk yourself out of it. And I'm wondering, like, h

ow does, how do we, how does human design help us to really learn to trust our intuition and deal with making decisions about things and knowing? Because we're all different. I know all these, all are, all these different types are different, but is human design something that's going to show us how to have an assurance or a certainty? Because we all want some level of certainty, I think. How do we know that we made the right decision? How do we know that we made the right decision? It's really

like, it's kind of similar to like muscle testing. You know, when you think about it, like when you're actually like, if people are familiar with muscle testing, but if you're not familiar with muscle testing, it gives you, so each, each design is going to be different. Even if you're, if you're both generators or you're a manifester, projector, reflector, like manifesting generator, it doesn't matter. But there's certain things that we can see in your design of how you're meant to make decision

s. So. Again, we talked about sacral authority, but if you're a sacral authority and you have an open head, you're going to constantly go into like these ideas and these thoughts and they may start to get loud, right? Get louder than your sacral authority. And so it's like, how do you start to notice that and say, okay, you know what? I acknowledge you. Thank you for being there. Thank you for bringing this to light for me. And I actually have this inner knowingness within myself. Now, and I, an

d I have that certainty. So we all have different authorities. That's why I told you like there's nine different authorities in human design. And again, they're dependent on type and different things of that, what are activated in your chart, but you can start to see the pathway of how to make the best decision for you. And it really starts with again, at the end of the day, it starts with leaning into you energetically. So if you're a generator, how can you start to feel satisfied? And this can

be as simple, Jill, as like, and I started doing this because like, you know, when you, when you're in personal development, I think there's like, there's so many tools. There's so many tips and tricks and strategies. Sorry, my little, uh, hanger things falling off my shirt. Um, when you start to look in personal development, there's so many different tools and tips and tricks and strategies. It's like, where do you even begin? Right? Like, where do you start? There's so much. So then. One of t

he things that I've been doing, and again, once I learned about human design and really started living this as I was like, okay, how do, when I start to sense the overwhelm, when I start to sense all the things that are swirling around me, okay, how can I come back into satisfaction? One of the things that I start to, I do now is every morning I literally go through what are the top three things, top three things that I want to accomplish today. And it can be as simple as I want to be on my rebo

under for 10 minutes. I wanna, you know, um, I wanna get an email sequence, you know, completed, or one email of the email sequence completed. I want to call, you know, a, a friend that I haven't heard from in a long time. Like, whatever it is, like small little things. Literally writing it down and then checking it off as a generator. We love checking things off. Check it off. You can live in that like satisfaction. Another thing for me, I don't drink coffee, you guys, but I going to a coffee s

hop and having a coffee. Like a latte prepared for me, like a coconut milk or an almond milk latte with cinnamon on top. There's something that brings me such satisfaction in that, that can reset my entire energy. And my hallucination is that there's things like that for all of you guys out there. And this can be, it's like for a projector. Like I've worked with, and it's funny, I work with a lot of projectors and projectors. They need generators because we're the battery pack, especially in bus

iness projectors really need generator in business. And here's the thing generators really need a projector in business because projectors really have this wonderful ability of seeing the bigger picture and the system, um, but. Seeing how they come together is really the special sauce. But I'll say this, for projectors, it's like, okay, how can you lean into success? Now, as a generator, when I think about success, I'd be like, well, getting all my check marks off and, you know, all these differ

ent things. Success for a projector could be like, I got up and worked for two hours today. I got out of bed. It can be as simple as that because projectors energy is so, I wouldn't say it's dependent, but it really kind of is because they don't have an energy center within their, and I'm getting way too granular about this, but projectors don't actually have an active battery pack, which is why they need, um, to rest like they're, they work much better in rest. So they'll work a couple hours on

a couple hours off, a couple hours on a couple hours off. I'll tell you this, you know, uh, uh, joint friend, Gerald Rogers, um, he's a projector. He's a projector. Energy, very much forward in the body, projects out, outward, you know, maybe even when he's not invited, but he has a beautiful. He has a great message to, to share, you know, with a lot of people, and it's going to land much more when he's invited to speak about something. When you ask him, like, hey, I have a question, rather tha

n him, like, preaching out to you. And he knows this, I've talked to him about it, we're, we're very open about this. Um, the other piece is, Like, how can projectors lean into success? How can manifestors lean into peace? What is that for you? One of my beautiful manifestoring friends, she does 10 minutes of Masterco meditation every single day. No matter what. And she's on like, I don't know, she's on a, she's on it for like 1600 days straight, like years we're talking, which is crazy. But it

gives her that peace and you're just leaning into those little things. You can start to bring your energy to an aligned place. And then, okay, how do you make that decision? Bring that decision to me because you don't want to make it from a frustrated, angry, you know, bitter, disappointed place. I, I, you know, I get keep thinking about all these things you're saying with this is like knowing this. Just I'm going to do the very basic part to start is how if someone works two hours a day or they

are not like hyper, like I'm a generator. So it's like I can work till, you know, either it's hard to get me going sometimes, but when I'm going, I am like in it, like I'm also have ADHD. So it's like they say people with ADD or ADHD, they can, they can be, um, uh, super distracted and hyper focused at the same time. Yeah. I love that line. I'm that way too. And I think it's a generator. It must be because that's like, it's like I can be totally like in it and four hours go by. I'm like, oh, I

think I have to go to the bathroom, you know, and everybody's walking by and I'm just like, oh, I'm in it. Um, you know, but then I can also go. Oh, what was that? I gotta go. We'll do something over here. And so there's a lot of like, like, you know, broken down cars on the side of the road in my life, but, you know, like things that I've started and I don't finish. I've learned to be okay with that, um, because I've also learned to realize that I think sometimes we're not meant to do it and th

ose are usually things that I forced that are not in my, in my space or my wheelhouse. And so I needed, I probably didn't need to start them anyway. So, or it's okay that they just didn't happen. But, you know, when we know that about somebody, like the guy that I told you that I dated, who was a, um, a projector. Yeah. He was a two hour day. I mean, he worked a regular job full time, but he also had, um, you know, he learned that about himself and said, wow, I'm so excited because now I underst

and why I don't. You know, just generator or constantly can just keep going. So when we understand that about another person or even in our kid with our kids, right? It says we're trying kids are transitioning. All of our kids are going to be different, you know So if you can't treat it's one size doesn't fit all right so there's probably a way to communicate differently with each one and Understanding your children's human design and you're not only your partner and even probably people you wor

k with friends people you really associate with where you have to have There have to be some kind of, um, a way to, um, negotiate or to strategize in life. I think this is so key and I love that you've said this because I've talked to others that do human design too. And I think it's so vital to find out about how we can either pick partners or better understand partners in relationships. So this is fantastic. It is. And I'll say from a, like a parenting perspective, one of the best things, like

just to give you an example. Yes, I'm a I'm a one three. So what does this mean? One typically is all about like, let's bring the foundations. We got to have the foundations. Let's build from the foundations. Um, we are investigators. We go deep down rabbit holes. Like we are going to just know all the ins and outs and how things work and how like all the ins and outs of everything. Right? Again, I went deep down the rabbit hole in human design. Not shocking. Um, the three line in my, in my cha

rt is all about experiencing trial and error. And it's like the Phoenix. It's like the Phoenix that rises from the ashes, the three line. And here's the thing. If you have a six line in your profile, the first 30 years of your life, You lived as a three line, and you'll always kind of have a little bit of the three line in you because you also have the sixth line. The three line literally will burn things down and then restart them and then burn something down because it's like, I'm done, I'm do

ne. I'm cut it off, I'm done and I'm gonna build, rebuild it back up. The three line learns through trial and error, so a lot of times the third line has had to learn through. What many or maybe parents or society has said is a mistake. This, a mistake to a child is like the most detrimental thing that you can say to a kid. Like, you screwed up. You're not right. You're not right. Because three lines, we learn through the contrast. of learning through the experience. So what can parents say if y

ou have a 6 line, if you have a child with a 6 line or a 3 line in their chart, when they maybe have done something or acted out of character that you maybe not have enjoyed? Rather than telling them, you're wrong, this is like, and that brings around shame, and there's a whole lot of emotions that can get trapped in the energy with that, I'm not gonna go with that, that space, but just saying, what did you learn from this? And give them the floor. Just ask them, what did they learn because it's

through those learnings that they're able to elevate their own and process their energy. So as someone, you know, my family, I would say my dad was kind of into personal development a little bit. Like he was into like Zig Ziglar and he had his business. He was a dentist. And so like he was, he was, he's always been inspired by certain things, but he was never really into personal development. My mom, not into it at all. I. Get into it. I'm like the only one in my, in my immediate, I would say,

like, out of the siblings and the parent rental, right? Pinta. In that immediate family unit, I, my parents, and again, love them, not that they're wrong at all. I had to learn that this, there's another way, right? Rather than making the child wrong, had my parents just said, What did you learn from this? What can you take away from this? What were the consequences? What did you learn from this? Literally, that's it. It can make a massive difference. The other thing I will say, for parents that

have a manifester child. Manifesters, as children, they need space. They're gonna, they're gonna basically eat, sleep, and poop. That's really what they do. But they kinda have their own pathway of doing things. They kinda, they're, and I wouldn't say that they're loners, because they're, they can be social when they desire to be, but they're going to initiate a new path. And so giving them the space and the, should I say freedom, to be who they are, And love them anyway, is going to be really

important. Now guys, all parents are amateurs, so there's always like, we all get to learn through this, you know? And I, I'm not, I don't blame my parents for anything. I love my parents. I appreciate, I'm grateful for it. But if you're a parent, not but, and, if you're a parent, and you're curious about human design, and you want to understand a little bit more about your kids as they're growing up, your, the profile is one of the greatest tools within your human design chart that you can star

t to understand how best to support your children through conflict, through dealing with their emotions, how to grow up and be a substantial individual, right? How to make decisions on their own, not needing, you know, other people's approval and validation. Um, there's so much like we could go and talk for hours on. Like just the evolution of how human design could support, um, and familial relationships. And then when you look in, in, in interpersonal relationships, you know, business or intim

ate relationships, it's funny, my fiance, I actually didn't look at his human design out of all the men that I've dated over the years, I would always pull their chart pretty quickly. And this one, Oh, it's, it's just interesting because. I didn't. And then we had a little conflict. It was like one evening and it was kind of silly. I mean, I don't even remember exactly what it was, but the next day we'd been together for probably, I don't know, a couple of months at this point, I pulled his char

t and I looked at it and I was like, Oh my gosh, because his, his, in his chart, he's a six to manifesting generator, emotional authority, and his incarnation cross is the left angle cross of I can't remember if it's conflict or tension. It's one of those. It's either tension or conflict. And within that cross is all about the need for control over certain things. And it's not in a domineering way. It's in a way to providing certainty through leadership. And me just reading that, I was like, Oh

my gosh. So I went to him and I was like, Hey babe, I just want to let you know. It was not my intention to come at you with what I did. I don't remember exactly what it was. Um, I was like, I see this now. I see this in your chart. And I was like, now that I know this, I'm like, have at it. Go for it. You do you, boo. Like I'm not gonna try, I'm not gonna try to change this, you know, and it, and it creates this level of respect and understanding, I think, because, you know, he with me, because

I was, I told him, I was like, babe, I learned through trial and error, so like, I'm gonna try something on, like, this is the, like, we could not be more different in a lot of the things, like, he's super introverted, I'm extroverted, um, he, Like, if I, if he's gonna go do something, or like, build something, it's gonna take him, I can work through things very quickly. I will work through things quickly. It may not be right, like, I'll maybe make a couple mistakes and I'll correct it, and the

n I'll make a couple mistakes and I'll correct it, but I'll get it done pretty quickly. He, it may take him five hours, but he's gonna do it once. And it's going to be perfect. Wow. So, so learning these things about the other person, like, I was like, I'm choosing to build a life with you and to live a life with you. If I let this, like the fact that you need to ride the wave for your decision makings and that you process and you move a little more methodically through things than I do because

he has this, he's a six two, which means he's kind of has this like role model genius. Um, that if he has this, I'm like, And he's gonna be really particular about these certain things. I gotta learn to love this about him. And I do. Like, I literally, I love it. He had to clean his office before my family came in town for the holidays. And I was, I'm just sitting there and I'm like, When is this gonna get cleaned up? When is this gonna get cleaned up? When is this gonna get cleaned up? And I'm

just like, Bite your tongue, bite your tongue, bite your tongue. You can do this, Katie. And, lo and behold, I knew it would get done. I mean, but it took an entire week before it was all cleaned up. But it's done well. It's done really well, whereas in me, I'd be like, okay, I'm gonna put this here, I'm gonna put it in this box, in this bin, and I'll just, when I get that bin out, like, I'll just get the bin out, and then I'll start digging through it. And it doesn't mean that his way's right,

or my way's wrong, or my way's right, and his way's wrong. It has nothing to do with that. It's just an understanding, and it gives you a perspective of like, okay, I am gonna learn to love and appreciate our differences in relationships. So that it brings a much beautiful, like just brings a lot more harmony, um, and a foundational way of like, okay, we can grow, we can, we can grow this relationship because we always have that level of respect and understanding for the other person's differenc

es. Yeah, I am blown away because I'm thinking this is a, this is really good for people dating and in relationship and you're selecting people because I think what I'm hearing is that human design can actually help us prevent conflict. Because how many conflicts, and how have we ended relationships, or long term relationships, or anything, or turned somebody away because maybe we didn't just, we just didn't understand their, their pattern, their style, who they are? Yeah. Wow. That's mind blowi

ng. That, that, that could be the case. Yeah, and I think it's, it's also about understanding too, because like, and I think for me at least, and you know, I, I'm a little bit later in life to get married for the first time, and he's a little bit, this is his first marriage too, um, and you know, we didn't settle for reasons. Right. We came together for other reasons, but we also were choosing each other each day. Does it mean that he's perfect and I'm perfect? Absolutely not. And we, and we tal

ked about this. I'm like, I don't, I don't tend, I don't try to be perfect. I'm not, I'm not after perfection. Like that's not about it to me. To me, it's about the journey that we can grow, like go on together. And we respect each other enough in that honoring of that journey, the ups and downs, the ebbs and flows that we're going to move through it. And I'll tell you this, like, Um, we do a thing called relationship check in every single Sunday, every yes, unbelievable because it gives us this

space and this foundation to really appreciate each other for like the small things. Like we just, it's like the small things and you know, sometimes it'll last. 30, 45 minutes, maybe an hour. Sometimes it'll go three hours. You know, it doesn't know. I think I gave you a link for people if they want to download kind of the process for it. But it's been a life changer for us. And, like, anytime we, like, have conflict or maybe we have a different, a different viewpoint, or a different opinion,

it's not like, pots and pans and knack down drag outs and errr, you know, we're going to get upset with each other. It's like, okay. Like, let's talk about this. Yeah, you're actually having, I did this, and I learned about this a few years ago with a partner, and we did this, and I've actually done video on this before, is that It's so cool because you're literally like tabling something and then you have this moment to address. First of all, I think I don't know how you do yours, but it's, um,

you know, you first, you say what you're grateful for, for the person, um, something that went well this week and then if there were any challenges and you talk about a challenge and it's an opportunity to kind of Monday morning quarterback it, you're kind of actually saying and looking at it in a lab. Like, you're almost like, let's, let's look at this pen. Why is it there's kind of a, it doesn't write very well. Does it, you know, what can we do to make this better? Yeah. Versus like, you fre

aking pen, you can't write, what's going on with you? Why can't you write? You know? And so it's like, in the moment, you can table it and say, let's bring that up on Sunday. And I think that is cool because then it has, you have a chance if you can sit with it. If you can't and you need to do it. I think it's always important to kind of have that moment where you're looking at it objectively, kind of in a, with an, with, with not emotion without emotion and trying to strategize and figure out h

ow we can, how we can solve the situation without being emotional and all dramatic about it. So that's how you do. Yeah, we will. So we do. It's a little different. It's like three. We do three things. We really appreciate about the other person from the previous week. And then we, um, and each person goes and it's usually more than three, but at least three, because again, you're stacking the good, right? You're stacking the foundation first, always not about the socks on the floor. It's not ab

out this and that and the other, like, it's really not. So stack the good. What do you really appreciate? For instance, I mean, and I, I have, I do it in my notes so like I can remember each week and I can kind of like, look back and stuff. And so, like, it could be like, oh my gosh, like, he unloaded the dishwasher. Like, oh my gosh, that was so amazing. Oh, you know, when you held space for me just to like, unload my burberria the other day, just to like, get some of my feelings out. Like, it

just meant a lot to me for you to be able to hold that space and like, hold the trash can and not try to fix it. You know, like, but just be there for me and like, just. Let me know that everything's going to be okay. And by, and literally, like, I mean, it, the amount of connection and intimacy that comes from these conversations is like, magical. And I tell, I told you this before we started recording, like the, like the chemistry and the polarity that he and I still have, like, and it's like

going strong, um, is unbelievable because we, again, we continue to reinforce all the good, right? Yeah. We're going to have challenges. Everybody's gonna be met with stuff, but we're able to like move through it. So we do the three things. And then we talk about what are the opportunities to grow through. And so he goes, I go, we share what those are. And then we talk about what are the intentions for the next week. And, literally, we've been doing this, I don't even, I mean, for over, it's bee

n absolutely incredible. It's really powerful. Everybody should do that in a relationship. I totally agree with you. I love that so much that you do that, and thank you for that link and for sharing it with me. And if you're dating, and you get into this relationship check in thing, when you're dating, right, you're kind of going through the interview process, be like, hey, you know, I'm, like, relationships are really important to me and I'm committed to this, and there's, like, there's a thing

, and like, I said this to him. I was like, I do this. And I, I've done this with a couple of other, you know, male relationships that I've been in. And I said, this is a non negotiable for me. Yeah. Like, you know, like this is something and, and he loves it. He loves it. It's a, it's an opportunity for him to like, I don't know, we just connect. It's incredible. Like, yeah. And I think, I think, and maybe I'm, I'm being a little bit extreme and maybe not everybody's going to agree with me on t

his, but I think if, if a guy isn't willing to do it and you might want to ask yourself why not, or ask him, I would say, cause it's like, what do you, you don't want to talk about how we're doing. You know, that's who's not a committer and who's not a, who's not a long term or now that if you're not looking for a long term committed relationship, that's going to be, you know, a life partner, then that's different. But if you're, that's what you're in it to win it, and you really want to go all

in like Katie has and like, I want to someday again, is that yeah, you kind of find somebody that's really want committed to wanting to, um, you know, check in and just and communicate on things. And not just, just avoid because they're gonna, they feel like they're gonna, they don't want to do it because they think they're gonna get in trouble or they're gonna, you're gonna, it's an opportunity for you to unleash on them, you know, and, and it's not that. And so I think we have to be clear on h

ow we communicate what it is to and do it in the proper way that Katie's showing in the link that she shared with us. So, um, thank you for that. I have another question about stress and self care because I know a lot of, there's a lot of talk in the past several years, like all of a sudden this word self care has come up right. And what is that exactly? And I think people, um, women, especially, you know, in midlife, it's like we're learning to take care of ourselves now, you know, we've taken

care of everyone else. And now it's time to like, what do I want to do? Who do I want to, I always say, who do you want to be when you grow up? Um, time is now. So like, how do we consider ourselves first? And what I, one of the things I noticed in human design when I was looking at some of the things that they mentioned is, and I, and you've taught me this, is environments that we, uh, that, that are best for us based on our environment. Um, on our design or on our, um, our, our type, right? So

, um, when, when can we, you can go into more detail, but I know there's one for how we, where we eat, um, how, what places that we work, where we live. Can you elaborate on some of those things too? Yeah, this is really fun. So I will say in most of the free charts, And I don't know if I gave you my link for the free chart, but it's just highenergykc. com forward slash free chart. Um, you can get, um, the, it, it'll pull actually the environments, but most of the time in, um, in like, if you go

to a free chart, they normally don't share the environments or the cognition digestion, all that kind of stuff, but there's different components. So when you get really down deep into. Understanding the components in the inner infrastructure of your own design. You can go down to the, the granular detail of like, what kind of environments do you thrive best at? And we can start looking at it from a business perspective. Like what kind of business environments is going to help you market yoursel

f, all that kind of stuff. So one of the things that, um, and again, that like been really beneficial for me. So I'll, I'll just give you an example for me and then I'll, I'll share yours. So. My environments is mountains and there's two different variables. There's two different types of mountains. There's, um, uh, um, my gosh, I just draw a blank. It's mountains. Um, there's an a, now I can't remember the word, but there's two different types of mountains. Active. Yeah. Active and, um, passive

. I'm passive mountains and then active mountains. So if you have a mountains as your environment, what this means is that It doesn't necessarily mean that you need to live in the environment, like in the mountains, but there is a level of perspective that you get when you're in the mountains. So like for me, I'm passive and most people that are passive mountains, they actually do really well living in the mountains. I lived in Denver for a long time. I'm in a place where there are not a lot of

mountains anymore. So I'm finding different ways to elevate myself. I'm like, my office is on the second floor of the house. Like, I'm finding different ways to be elevated. Mountains is all about elevating yourself and also elevating, not in like a, um, like an egoist way, but it's like, how can I look at something from above the fray? Right. See the bigger picture from above the fray. There's, there's caves. Caves is a really interesting one. Caves is all about like understanding your own envi

ronment. And most people that have caves environments are going to be very, um. They're going to be homebodies. A lot of times people with caves are going to be homebodies. They're going to be very particular about who comes in and out of their space, but their space, like their space is super, super important to them. And like how it's designed or made up, um, in terms of caves. And if you're, I always tell us like business owners for people that are business owners in caves, got to have a sedu

ctive way. Not, not be as available as a lot of other people, like, be more seductive in your marketing. Um, for people with, I think you, what are you, what's your environment, Jill? I think you're, what are you? I was looking to see, um, I have your report and I was looking at it. I don't see environment here, but I think it was one of the older reports you may have done. Okay. Um, I know you said something about nature for me, but you said, um, desk work, business realm. Yeah. So let me, I'm

just going to, or cause I was looking at the, I didn't see, so I'm not a real nature person. So that's why I was kind of, that was the only thing on your report that I went, I don't know if that's me. Oh, because of your, because your prosperity, um, natural is it's about your own power. Like, so you have this ability to, um, Like your natural power, um, when you are on in your aligned energy is going to be very, it's just going to be very prosperous. So when your energy is more aligned, it's ju

st, it's like second nature to you. Like, you're going to have connections coming to you when you're like, where did this even come from? Like, how does this, it's becoming a little flowing and natural. Um, and It can be through connecting in nature or through a natural way of connection, like with someone else that's coming into your vortex. The other piece I will say, because I did see that your environment is markets. Markets is all about, and there's external and internal. External markets i

s all about being in a place where there's Exchange happening, right? Or an exchange of communication, um, information. It's all about, um, almost like bringing people together in a certain place, but there's a lot of comings and goings, right? It's like people like, from a business perspective, I always say, like, if you have markets, there's, it's like, You know, as an entrepreneur, it'd be really important to have, like, different ways in which people can, um, like, process payments through y

ou. So, like, that could be, like, an eBay store, or an Etsy store, or a, you know, I don't know, some different ways to bring in exchange. Um, different ways of, like, bringing commerce together. So like having different offers, like multiple offers. Um, that's a big thing when I look at people with, uh, markets environment. And I may have not gone into that with you. That long ago because that was that was a long time ago. I feel like like 21 or something for 2020. Yeah. So like that was a whi

le ago. So I, yeah, I mean, I've kind of revamped the process of kind of those those charts and whatnot. But, um, yeah, I mean, there's there's fascinating things when you can start even just like looking at. Yeah. Like, how do you digest? Like, what's the best way for you to digest food? Like, I'm going to look at your chart. I don't know what I said for you. Um, yeah, I think I have it at another time. Place. It was a low sound and I end up doing like things like I will multitask when I eat. I

t's like I'm watching TV. I'm probably playing a game. I'm doing something, you know, all these different things at one time, taking notes. Um, you know, I could be talking to somebody. I mean, it's just, I, I, because that's just my constant brain running. So the low sound, I don't do that very much, but then I just maybe an improvement for me to digest my food better. Yes, it is. It is linked to, to, to digestion, but it's also, it's like, how do you simulate, how do you allow, um, certain thi

ngs to simulate? So like, even if you just put on a little bit of like classical music or just like some sort of like five 28 or some sort of frequency music while it's playing in the background will help even just allow your energy to kind of move through certain things like your low sound. There was also another, I'm going to look at your chart. Um, cause you have me, I know I'm a four, six. That's that's a start which is an opportunist role model and which one I know you said at one point tha

t there's the first number is how people see you and the second one is how you see yourself. Or is it the other way around the way around. So yeah, so the first the first one is really like it's kind of like what people are like, they can consciously see that without you. It's like you're this natural connector, like able to kind of like be this resource for people like bringing people and so that that's what the four is the four. And again, it doesn't mean that they have to be in like multiple

communities, but it's like, I'm going to be, um, I'm going to be a resource in a particular community and I'm going to trust and honor her. Like everyone in that community and so it's, it's really about kind of, not that it's like the center of the community, but you, it's like having this level of trust with a community and you have this ability to bring resources to support that community and people see that about you. People know that you're a connector that you're going to be able to like. I

f they have a thing or like they need to bring something, you're going to be able to like bring them a solution or connect them with someone. This line is much more, it's more like the subconscious. So it's like, um, and the, if as a six, like, I think I mentioned this prior six lines live their life in three stages, the first 30 years, very much trial and error up and down, like. Learn what not to do by learning, uh, learn what to do by learning what not to do like very much like trial and erro

r the second like 20 ish years is very reflective and it's like, okay, how can I own my craft? How can I like bring this together? How can I, how can I really come up and like be this, the person that I'm like, that I meant to be. And then when the, when you get to 50. It's kind of like this new era. Yeah, it's like cocoon just I think I could I talked to you before this, I think, right? It was like and the new era starts to open and it's like this natural magnetism is going to happen. And there

's like this inner knowingness that's like you're the queen that you always knew you were and people are going to be naturally drawn to you. Does that make sense? It totally does. It's, it's before I think it's, um, um, Michael, Reverend Michael Beckwith says this so well in his, um, stages of, um, uh, I can't remember what he calls it transformation. And the 1st 1 is, um, to me, which is like the, our, our need to like, we play kind of victim or it's like, I've got it. And then the 2nd phase is

, um, by me, which is where we're, we're actually creating a romantic effect. We're doing things. We're creating this opportunity. So that's to me, like. Making the mistakes. Like, things are always happening to me. I'm creating things and they're not working. I mean, I was always like, I don't listen to what anybody says because I know better, you know, when I was younger. Totally true. Then, then it was like the next, through that was like now it's, it was, then it was, I'm going to control, I

'm going to make this stuff happen. And now, the third phase he talks about is, um, through me. Which is, things are actually just happening through me. And we're, we're actually releasing the need to control. And allowing things to happen. And, and then there's the fourth one, which is really cool. And this is all dynamic. He says like things we can some days in some areas be a victim and something going like, damn it, this is always happened to me. And that's not to mean that we've like, we've

failed or anything, but it's the fourth one is as me. And as me is a very spiritual thing, but it's sort of as if we are living it. We are one with. With God, with love, we are just, there's no separation at all. And so I'm seeing that a lot in my life lately, but it's, but really that through me is so powerful. And I think some might define it in the less, maybe outside of spirituality is more of when you get to 50, you stop caring about what people think. That's it. That's kind of a very easy

way to say it. I don't say that that's what it is for me, but yeah, it can look at what you stop worrying about what people think, or you stop judging for me, judging myself. It's like, hey, guess what? There's nothing wrong with me. There's, and by the way, everyone watching, there's nothing wrong with you either. That's the big ha ha that everybody has to get here, is that it's so true. Where there's nothing wrong with us. There's nothing wrong and there's nowhere to get. Like, you got it. Yo

u can create it right now, whatever you want. And that's why I'm bringing Human Design and Katy Day, because, um, I just find this work so fascinating. It may not be for everyone, but I love that you actually watched this through to the end almost here, and that you're willing to see. What's possible for yourself, that this is a tool that you can try and you can look at and you can take Katie's free test. And if you want to work with her, you can, you can reach out to her and do that because I t

hink it's such a great element to be able to find out more about yourself and how to communicate with others and maybe to avoid some of the things. That we've been a lot of us have been conflicted with and other people is that we just assume it's them. It's not me. And it always is us actually, but it's it's it's how do we relate with someone else? And how can we most effectively and with joy and peace and satisfaction? Feel good about being in partnership or in relationship or connecting with o

ther people. How do I can actually have joy in the work that we're doing? And if we don't like our work, how can we find out through human design what it is we want to do with our lives? This is something Katie does so masterfully, is being able to say, Hey, you know what? You're not wrong. Maybe what you're in, I can see why this isn't, this has not been satisfying for you. Because boy, look at what you're doing. You're isolating yourself. You're, you're a generator and you have to be out in fr

ont of people. Whatever it may be. This is your opportunity to check it out. So I definitely watch this again, go take the test. You can check through and see what some of the things we talked about and see, let's see what you come up with and give Katie a call. She'd love to talk to you. The world is your oyster guys. I mean, we'd never like literally the things that we can open up just by understanding our own energy is it's literally, I always say this, but it's like pure magic, right? Your s

oul gets elevated to a new level. And it's the, it's the level that you didn't know you needed to get to. I mean, it's, and it's powerful and it's comforting and it's juicy and it's, and it's, there's so much beauty in it. There's so much beauty in it. I think it's that friction. It's just, there's, it's, it's being in flow versus forcing. Yeah, and, and I, and I think a lot of us going back a little bit what I just said already, but, you know, in personal development, those of us who've been in

personal development for a long time, it's that a lot of times. It's a great thing. It's a great place to be because we get so energized. We get so focused and clear on what it is. We need to do and how to take action. And then there's that next step after we've been forcing and pushing and figuring out how to do it. It's like, gosh, I'm exhausted. Isn't there an easier way? And there is an easier way. Yeah. It's, it's this, it's, yes. Doing And the wooing . I just, it's the wooing. It's the wo

oing. Because really this part of it, it sounds crazy that your birthdate, your, your, you know, the time you were born, where you were born, how could that possibly be? But we're in an energy field and this is how it works. And, um, I'm telling you, at first when I heard about it, I'm going like, I don't know. And then when you sent that report and we did the report, I went, holy shit. She's reading my mail. She, I mean, you, I was just. Yeah. It's like, this is, so I can't deny it. I can't den

y it. Yeah. Once you like learn a little bit about it, you can't unlearn about it, but it is good. It's good to get refreshers, you know, like there's little things and you know, I continue to learn through human design every day and then you, you know, we didn't really even talk about the gene keys, but how the gene key is like correspond within the human design. And the way I look at it is like, Human design like lays the foundation for you. It kind of gives you the structure. It's like the ma

sculine part of this kind of energetic work. And it gives you the, the ability to identify certain components within your chart. And then you look at gene keys and gene keys is like the feminine. And it's like, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you this. Um, all this, this information to the now contemplate and it's what do you do with it? How is it like through the process of that contemplation? How are you able to elevate your own energy? And to make it To the, to that energetic standpo

int where you're meant to thrive, right, where it's meant to be easy. And here's the thing. I don't mean I say easy, I say easy in the sense of like, it doesn't mean that it's not, there's not going to be work, right? It's not going to be hard, but there's a level of alignment that you can bring to your own self that makes the, the more like the challenging moments a little less, right? A little more doable. And you do that from an aligned place. The strength, the inner strength that is develope

d through that, you can't, I mean, you can't put a price tag on it. I mean, it's invaluable and, and knowing your worth through that process is, is everything. Yeah, it's very freeing and you get really a sense of release and, and, um, self acceptance when you get to, it's kind of like you get your own roadmap of yourself of like, how, how am I, well, it's, I call it design. It's design. It's your design. It's your roadmap. It's your. It's, it's who you are, and, and, like you said, we intuitive

ly know it, and then we get to kind of look at it and go, Hoo, it's like, that's me, and then explain, it answers a lot of questions that we may not have always known about, or had, had been clear on, and now we have a lot of more certainty about who we are. And I'm glad you brought up, um, Gene Keys too, because one thing that I love about you is that you are one of the few, if maybe the only, I don't know this, but, um, that you actually, when you, when your work, you use both of these togethe

r and we didn't go into Gene Keys, but we maybe can on another call. Um, I, this is like, it's basically you're getting, you're bringing, blending two things together to really make it more comprehensive, which is really unique. So I like, I like the way you described it. Like one's the more of the masculine side, the other side's more feminine. So they kind of complement each other very well. Yeah. And it truly activates certain energies within you. Like that's part of the reason, like most peo

ple don't even realize they're like, Because there are a lot of times when I do these debriefs or like, I'm working with a client, they're like, how do you know this? Like, this is like, are you looking through a crystal ball? And I do have to con, I do have to preface this. A lot of what I'm doing when I'm looking at someone's chart is a lot of my channel. Like I'm, I've cleared a path because I have a lot of openness in my chart. So like, like, I mean, I've done thousands of these charts at th

is point. So that's why when I, I have to go back and I have a library of my My client's charts because I, there are certain things I will not remember about your charts because I've read so many, you know, at this point. And so when I'm channeling a lot of this, a lot more of this information, being able to activate these different energies in you, it's important for you to then go home and just kind of like take a minute and like let this all settle in. And then you get to decide how does this

impact you moving forward? How do you get to make your life of choice? moving forward. You know, I, I'm going to choose to manifest whatever it is, right? This or something better. You, you're, you have a much clearer path of getting there. And I love what you said about acceptance, because I truly believe that what that, like what human design has delivered so much for my clients is this being like, they're not wrong, right? Like they're not wrong. Like the journey that they've been on up to t

his point, isn't wrong. It's brought you to this point. And this point is an intersection for you to go in and reinvent yourself. And that's what you're so great at. Right? And being able to take them on that path of reinvention. And by doing that, live more aligned. Yeah, it's so true. It's so true. It's just one of many tools. And I think this is just one of the most impactful that I've had in my life that I've used, uh, since I've started on this journey. And so I'm grateful to you for showin

g me this and for sharing with my audience. About human design because I think so many of us really need to know about it and so thank you for this today It's been a pleasure. It's fun. So fun Again, and thanks everyone for watching today But I think Katie now we talked it beforehand when we will do another one on relationships and dating I think that would be fun too. So stay tuned and let us know put it put it comments in the chat Let us know what you liked about this if you want to answer que

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